RE: Cy - low carb

June 1, 2004

yes, it really does depend on what your a1c readings are.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a

new

> > > > > problem -

> > > > > > > low

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to

start

> > > > cutting

> > > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings

> are

> > > > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably

> > only

> > > > need

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low.

Her

> > mid

> > > > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to

time.

> > > Well,

> > > > I

> > > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for

> > what,

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > two

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was

running

> in

> > > the

> > > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

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June 2, 2004

stop your lieing Pat! We know you go out and eat ice cream, drink root beer

floats, and eat butter fingers out the wa zoo! and you are going to tell us

you take your meter out with you? Ha! proove it. Hahaha. Just kidding.

Sorry, am in a silly mood.

smile

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> > > problem -

> > > > > low

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

> > cutting

> > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are

> > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably

only

> > need

> > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her

mid

> > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time.

> Well,

> > I

> > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for

what,

> > > about

> > > > > two

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in

> the

> > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

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June 2, 2004

Yes! And I hate carrying the clunky thing around too!

Re: Cy - low carb

stop your lieing Pat! We know you go out and eat ice cream, drink root beer

floats, and eat butter fingers out the wa zoo! and you are going to tell us

you take your meter out with you? Ha! proove it. Hahaha. Just kidding.

Sorry, am in a silly mood.

smile

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> > > problem -

> > > > > low

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

> > cutting

> > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are

> > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably

only

> > need

> > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her

mid

> > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time.

> Well,

> > I

> > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for

what,

> > > about

> > > > > two

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in

> the

> > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

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June 2, 2004

yup, I know the feeling smile. But I love to have the ability to check my

sugar at any point/time. Especially when I feel odd like I am low or

whatever. Half the time I'm not Hahaha. Thank God I check. Other day felt

low and was 123.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> > > > problem -

> > > > > > low

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

> > > cutting

> > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings

are

> > > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably

> only

> > > need

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her

> mid

> > > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time.

> > Well,

> > > I

> > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for

> what,

> > > > about

> > > > > > two

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running

in

> > the

> > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

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> Date:

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June 2, 2004

yeah, I know what you mean.

Re: Cy - low carb

yup, I know the feeling smile. But I love to have the ability to check my

sugar at any point/time. Especially when I feel odd like I am low or

whatever. Half the time I'm not Hahaha. Thank God I check. Other day felt

low and was 123.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> > > > problem -

> > > > > > low

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

> > > cutting

> > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings

are

> > > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably

> only

> > > need

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her

> mid

> > > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time.

> > Well,

> > > I

> > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for

> what,

> > > > about

> > > > > > two

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running

in

> > the

> > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

> > > (http://www.grisoft.com).

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> Date:

> > > > > > 5/22/2004

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> removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

June 2, 2004

That will be good indeed.

Sharon

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> > > > problem -

> > > > > > low

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

> > > cutting

> > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings

are

> > > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably

> only

> > > need

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her

> mid

> > > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time.

> > Well,

> > > I

> > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for

> what,

> > > > about

> > > > > > two

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running

in

> > the

> > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

> > > (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release

> Date:

> > > > > > 5/22/2004

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> removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

June 2, 2004

Does it matter whether the olives are those ones that are stuffed or should

I eat just regular olives? I want to try to do things right here. Here's

what I had for dinner tonight. I didn't get home until 7:15 p.m. because I

had to work late today. I had some lettuce so I put that in a bowl and had

3 cherry tomatoes which I chopped up. I had 3 pearl onions which I added to

the mix. Then I put some pepper, a little salt but I couldn't taste the

salt. Then I put some bacon bits and salad supreme on the salad. I used

French dressing. Was that ok? The salad was good. It hasn't been two

hours yet but I sure liked it. Does that sound ok or did I do something

wrong? Also, what if I can't eat every 4 hours. I'm going to have trouble

doing that when I'm working because of the time. Can I eat some cheese or

veggies at the 4 hour mark if I can't eat a meal?

Sorry for so many questions. I'm just trying to do this right and you guys

are the experts. I trust all of you.

Thanks.

Sharon

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a

new

> > > > > problem -

> > > > > > > low

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to

start

> > > > cutting

> > > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings

> are

> > > > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably

> > only

> > > > need

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low.

Her

> > mid

> > > > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to

time.

> > > Well,

> > > > I

> > > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for

> > what,

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > two

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was

running

> in

> > > the

> > > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

> > > > (http://www.grisoft.com).

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> > Date:

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> > removed]

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June 2, 2004

The Access Vans are so bumpy I'm afraid I'll kill myself. (smile) I hate

to sound stupid , but where did you get the bread container? Does it

have a handle on it to make it easy to carry?

Sorry more questions again.

Sharon

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a

new

> > > > > problem -

> > > > > > > low

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to

start

> > > > cutting

> > > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings

> are

> > > > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably

> > only

> > > > need

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low.

Her

> > mid

> > > > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to

time.

> > > Well,

> > > > I

> > > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for

> > what,

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > two

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was

running

> in

> > > the

> > > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

> > > > (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release

> > Date:

> > > > > > > 5/22/2004

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> > removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

June 2, 2004

I'll be doing that I'm sure.

Thanks.

Sharon

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> > > problem -

> > > > > low

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

> > cutting

> > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are

> > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably

only

> > need

> > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her

mid

> > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time.

> Well,

> > I

> > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for

what,

> > > about

> > > > > two

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in

> the

> > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

> > (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release

Date:

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June 2, 2004

You are doing fine, it took you years to become a diabetic, you don't have

to do it perfect in a day. Don't know your details, but as a novice which

I am, understands it, the idea is to keep your sugar between certain

exceptable levels. Not to high or to low. Your work has to allow you to

snack as a reasonable accomodation. Your list of snacks sounds good. I

hear string cheese is a good snack. I am from Wisconsin but that hasn't

helped me like cheese.

I think your salad sounds fine, especially if the French dressing is Low

fat. Your meter readings will give you the best feedback on what is

working. What works for you, may not work for me. I have been a very

irregular eater, and the biggest adjustment, is to try to eat three meals a

day. It is easier to graze, and as long as I graze on reasonable foods I

do okay. I am also a month in to diagnossis, taking a pill twice a day,

and adjusting diet to lower sugar and triglycerides. Have gone from 250 to

115 on the glucose.

No idea about colesteral and triglyceride levels.

So my situation chemistry and weight may not be your's.

Keep up the good work.

June 2, 2004

Sharron.

Lynda, new to the list, started on 1 shot of lantus (8 units) at 8 PM and 2

units of humalog per 15 grams at each meal and was regulated for the first

time in her life in only 2 days.

This works Sharron, trust me. Ask Lynda.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a

new

> > > > > problem -

> > > > > > > low

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to

start

> > > > cutting

> > > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings

> are

> > > > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably

> > only

> > > > need

> > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low.

Her

> > mid

> > > > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to

time.

> > > Well,

> > > > I

> > > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for

> > what,

> > > > > about

> > > > > > > two

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was

running

> in

> > > the

> > > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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June 2, 2004

Sharron the nice thing about using 1 shot of lantus at 8 PM and useing

humalog to cover your carbs, you do not get low sugared and can skip meals

if you want. I.E you do not get low from lantus, you would only get low from

humalog if that would ever happen. Lantus does not have a peek action in it.

it is smooth and never peeks. Humalog peeks in 2 hours past taking it. So,

if humalog is not in your body, you typically do not run low at all. So, it

is possible to skip meals and then when you get home, do a pre meal test,

eat up to 45 to 60 grams of carbs at a meal, dose your humalog, do a 2 hour

post meal check, and you are done with it. Not only that, this gives you

much more flexibility in your lifestyle since you are quite busy.

More questions, ask, I am here.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a

> new

> > > > > > problem -

> > > > > > > > low

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to

> start

> > > > > cutting

> > > > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning

readings

> > are

> > > > > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will

probably

> > > only

> > > > > need

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low.

> Her

> > > mid

> > > > > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to

> time.

> > > > Well,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this

for

> > > what,

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > two

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was

> running

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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June 2, 2004

yes, that salad was fine but really, you could have had a slice of bread

with it since you didn't eat to many carbs. You can eat up to 45 to 60 grams

of carbs at a meal if on humalog.

If on oral meds, keep meals around 30 grams. Just read your food labels to

see how many carbs are in the food. Salads are pretty much free (for the

most part). The meal you ate was fine and very low carb.

Just keep asking questions Sharron, we are here to help and this is not

hard. It really isn't... all you are doing is limiting your carbs to 30

grams while on oral meds.

You may not even need insulin if you do that. It might bring your sugars

completely under control and you might only need 1 shot of lantus and not a

split dose. Limit your carbs to 30 grams a meal, at any meal, and keep your

meals 4 hours apart.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a

> new

> > > > > > problem -

> > > > > > > > low

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to

> start

> > > > > cutting

> > > > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning

readings

> > are

> > > > > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will

probably

> > > only

> > > > > need

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low.

> Her

> > > mid

> > > > > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to

> time.

> > > > Well,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this

for

> > > what,

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > two

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was

> running

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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> > > removed]

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June 2, 2004

I think my wife picked it up at the dollar store around here. No, there

is not a handle. It is just a given... my work... my family events... my

outings... equals plastic carrier smile.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a

> new

> > > > > > problem -

> > > > > > > > low

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to

> start

> > > > > cutting

> > > > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning

readings

> > are

> > > > > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will

probably

> > > only

> > > > > need

> > > > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low.

> Her

> > > mid

> > > > > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to

> time.

> > > > Well,

> > > > > I

> > > > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this

for

> > > what,

> > > > > > about

> > > > > > > > two

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was

> running

> > in

> > > > the

> > > > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---

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June 2, 2004

Good job ... way to get that sugar down...

Regards,

Re: Cy - low carb

You are doing fine, it took you years to become a diabetic, you don't have

to do it perfect in a day. Don't know your details, but as a novice which

I am, understands it, the idea is to keep your sugar between certain

exceptable levels. Not to high or to low. Your work has to allow you to

snack as a reasonable accomodation. Your list of snacks sounds good. I

hear string cheese is a good snack. I am from Wisconsin but that hasn't

helped me like cheese.

I think your salad sounds fine, especially if the French dressing is Low

fat. Your meter readings will give you the best feedback on what is

working. What works for you, may not work for me. I have been a very

irregular eater, and the biggest adjustment, is to try to eat three meals a

day. It is easier to graze, and as long as I graze on reasonable foods I

do okay. I am also a month in to diagnossis, taking a pill twice a day,

and adjusting diet to lower sugar and triglycerides. Have gone from 250 to

115 on the glucose.

No idea about colesteral and triglyceride levels.

So my situation chemistry and weight may not be your's.

Keep up the good work.

June 2, 2004

Can I take Lantus at 8:00 then take Humalog if I'm going to eat at 8:00

because I got home late and am just am able to eat right then or do I have

to space the insulins out?

Sharon

> Sharron the nice thing about using 1 shot of lantus at 8 PM and useing

> humalog to cover your carbs, you do not get low sugared and can skip

> meals if you want. I.E you do not get low from lantus, you would only

> get low from humalog if that would ever happen. Lantus does not have a

> peek action in it. it is smooth and never peeks. Humalog peeks in 2

> hours past taking it. So, if humalog is not in your body, you typically

> do not run low at all. So, it is possible to skip meals and then when

> you get home, do a pre meal test, eat up to 45 to 60 grams of carbs at a

> meal, dose your humalog, do a 2 hour post meal check, and you are done

> with it. Not only that, this gives you much more flexibility in your

> lifestyle since you are quite busy.

>

> More questions, ask, I am here.

> Regards,

>

> Crystal

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we

>> have a

>> new

>> > > > > > problem -

>> > > > > > > > low

>> > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs

>> to

>> start

>> > > > > cutting

>> > > > > > > back

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning

> readings

>> > are

>> > > > > fairly

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will

> probably

>> > > only

>> > > > > need

>> > > > > > > one

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this

>> low.

>> Her

>> > > mid

>> > > > > > > > afternoon

>> > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time

>> to

>> time.

>> > > > Well,

>> > > > > I

>> > > > > > > > guess

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing

>> this

> for

>> > > what,

>> > > > > > about

>> > > > > > > > two

>> > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was

>> running

>> > in

>> > > > the

>> > > > > > > high

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > where

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work! The

>> Ancient One...

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system

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>> > > Date:

>> > > >

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>> been

>> > > removed]

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June 2, 2004

How many carbs do tomatoes and onions have? Does French Dressing have

very many?

Sharon

> yes, that salad was fine but really, you could have had a slice of bread

> with it since you didn't eat to many carbs. You can eat up to 45 to 60

> grams of carbs at a meal if on humalog.

>

> If on oral meds, keep meals around 30 grams. Just read your food labels

> to see how many carbs are in the food. Salads are pretty much free (for

> the most part). The meal you ate was fine and very low carb.

>

> Just keep asking questions Sharron, we are here to help and this is not

> hard. It really isn't... all you are doing is limiting your carbs to 30

> grams while on oral meds.

>

> You may not even need insulin if you do that. It might bring your sugars

> completely under control and you might only need 1 shot of lantus and

> not a split dose. Limit your carbs to 30 grams a meal, at any meal, and

> keep your meals 4 hours apart.

>

> Regards,

>

> Crystal

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we

>> have a

>> new

>> > > > > > problem -

>> > > > > > > > low

>> > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs

>> to

>> start

>> > > > > cutting

>> > > > > > > back

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning

> readings

>> > are

>> > > > > fairly

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will

> probably

>> > > only

>> > > > > need

>> > > > > > > one

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this

>> low.

>> Her

>> > > mid

>> > > > > > > > afternoon

>> > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time

>> to

>> time.

>> > > > Well,

>> > > > > I

>> > > > > > > > guess

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing

>> this

> for

>> > > what,

>> > > > > > about

>> > > > > > > > two

>> > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was

>> running

>> > in

>> > > > the

>> > > > > > > high

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > where

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work! The

>> Ancient One...

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system

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>> > > Date:

>> > > >

>> > > > > > > > 5/22/2004

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>> been

>> > > removed]

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

June 2, 2004

I believe you , you are the expert here. You, Harry and

everyone else who has tried this and had such good luck on this. Thanks

for the help and support.

sharon

> Sharron.

>

> Lynda, new to the list, started on 1 shot of lantus (8 units) at 8 PM

> and 2 units of humalog per 15 grams at each meal and was regulated for

> the first time in her life in only 2 days.

>

> This works Sharron, trust me. Ask Lynda.

>

> Regards,

>

> Crystal

>> > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have

>> a

> new

>> > > > > problem -

>> > > > > > > low

>> > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to

> start

>> > > > cutting

>> > > > > > back

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning

>> readings

>> are

>> > > > fairly

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will

>> probably

>> > only

>> > > > need

>> > > > > > one

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this

>> low.

> Her

>> > mid

>> > > > > > > afternoon

>> > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to

> time.

>> > > Well,

>> > > > I

>> > > > > > > guess

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this

>> for

>> > what,

>> > > > > about

>> > > > > > > two

>> > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was

> running

>> in

>> > > the

>> > > > > > high

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

>> > > > > > > > > > > > where

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work! The

>> Ancient One...

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system

>> > > > (http://www.grisoft.com).

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>> Release

>> > Date:

>> > > > > > > 5/22/2004

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>> > removed]

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June 2, 2004

Thanks for the support. It's needed.

Sharon

> You are doing fine, it took you years to become a diabetic, you don't

> have to do it perfect in a day. Don't know your details, but as a

> novice which I am, understands it, the idea is to keep your sugar

> between certain exceptable levels. Not to high or to low. Your work

> has to allow you to snack as a reasonable accomodation. Your list of

> snacks sounds good. I hear string cheese is a good snack. I am from

> Wisconsin but that hasn't helped me like cheese.

> I think your salad sounds fine, especially if the French dressing is Low

> fat. Your meter readings will give you the best feedback on what is

> working. What works for you, may not work for me. I have been a very

> irregular eater, and the biggest adjustment, is to try to eat three

> meals a day. It is easier to graze, and as long as I graze on

> reasonable foods I do okay. I am also a month in to diagnossis, taking

> a pill twice a day, and adjusting diet to lower sugar and

> triglycerides. Have gone from 250 to 115 on the glucose.

> No idea about colesteral and triglyceride levels.

> So my situation chemistry and weight may not be your's.

> Keep up the good work.

>

June 2, 2004

Lantus is the long acting insulin usually taken once per day. Humalog is

the short acting insulin taken to cover carbs consumed at meals. If your

mealtime insulin Humalog and your daily dose of Lantus happen to coincide,

there is no problem with taking your dose of Lantus and also taking your

dose of Humalog to cover the carbs consumed at mealtime. Of course I am

assuming you are taking these two different insulins in two different

injections. I am also assuming you plan to take a two hour post meal

glucose reading to be sure you are not running into the hypoglycemic range.

Once you have mastered carb counting and Humalog dosing, this will probably

not be a problem.

Crystal

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we

> >> have a

> >> new

> >> > > > > > problem -

> >> > > > > > > > low

> >> > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs

> >> to

> >> start

> >> > > > > cutting

> >> > > > > > > back

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning

> > readings

> >> > are

> >> > > > > fairly

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will

> > probably

> >> > > only

> >> > > > > need

> >> > > > > > > one

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this

> >> low.

> >> Her

> >> > > mid

> >> > > > > > > > afternoon

> >> > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time

> >> to

> >> time.

> >> > > > Well,

> >> > > > > I

> >> > > > > > > > guess

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing

> >> this

> > for

> >> > > what,

> >> > > > > > about

> >> > > > > > > > two

> >> > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was

> >> running

> >> > in

> >> > > > the

> >> > > > > > > high

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > where

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work! The

> >> Ancient One...

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system

> >> > > > > (http://www.grisoft.com).

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 -

> > Release

> >> > > Date:

> >> > > >

> >> > > > > > > > 5/22/2004

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> >> been

> >> > > removed]

> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

June 2, 2004

yes, you can take humalog at 8 PM with the lantus. There is no reason to take

them at different times. however, you have to stay up til at least 10 pm to

check the sugar to catch the peek of the humalog and if you are ok, then you can

go to bed. I.E you don't dose humalog and go to bed. That isn't a good idea in

case you take to much and could go low. However, once the system is in place and

you are doing things correctly, you dont' typically go low at all... you run 80

pre meal and your 2 hour post meal is about 120 or less.

Regards,

Crystal

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we

>> have a

>> new

>> > > > > > problem -

>> > > > > > > > low

>> > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs

>> to

>> start

>> > > > > cutting

>> > > > > > > back

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning

> readings

>> > are

>> > > > > fairly

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will

> probably

>> > > only

>> > > > > need

>> > > > > > > one

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this

>> low.

>> Her

>> > > mid

>> > > > > > > > afternoon

>> > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time

>> to

>> time.

>> > > > Well,

>> > > > > I

>> > > > > > > > guess

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing

>> this

> for

>> > > what,

>> > > > > > about

>> > > > > > > > two

>> > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was

>> running

>> > in

>> > > > the

>> > > > > > > high

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > where

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work! The

>> Ancient One...

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June 2, 2004

Hello Sharon and List,

I do know Marie's Blue cheese salad dressing has zero carbs and loads of

flavor.

Also I'd like to suggest Gorton's lemon fish. I believe it is cod.

Delicious and one carb per serving!

Rita

June 2, 2004

wow that fish does sound great!

Regards,

Re: Cy - low carb

Hello Sharon and List,

I do know Marie's Blue cheese salad dressing has zero carbs and loads of

flavor.

Also I'd like to suggest Gorton's lemon fish. I believe it is cod.

Delicious and one carb per serving!

Rita

June 2, 2004

I was just wondering if the blind diabetics know about the device called

count a dose? I use it to draw up my insulin up. Just wanted to know if

everyone is familiar with it? rw

Re: Cy - low carb

>

> Hello Sharon and List,

> I do know Marie's Blue cheese salad dressing has zero carbs and loads of

> flavor.

>

> Also I'd like to suggest Gorton's lemon fish. I believe it is cod.

> Delicious and one carb per serving!

> Rita

>

June 2, 2004

Rita, that fish does sound good. Is Marie's the one in the jar?

Sharon

> Hello Sharon and List,

> I do know Marie's Blue cheese salad dressing has zero carbs and loads of

> flavor.

>

> Also I'd like to suggest Gorton's lemon fish. I believe it is cod.

> Delicious and one carb per serving!

> Rita

>

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