RE: Cy - low carb

May 29, 2004

Cy, I bought some low carb bread yesterday. It is Homepride wheat. It

says that it has 8 carbs per slice. I made a open face breakfast meal thia

morning of one slice of toast, with no butter, three pieces of canadian

bacon , about the size of a pop can. and a slice of cheese, and a cup of

coffee. I figure that I had 8 carbs in total. Thanks, Jerry

Crystal

> > > >

> > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem - low

>

> > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting back

> > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need one

> > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid afternoon

>

> > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I guess

> > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what, about two

>

> > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the high

> > > > > 400s and now look

> > > where

> > > > > we are.

> > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > The Ancient One...

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May 29, 2004

Ah, nice low carb breakfast. good job. BTW watch the canadian bacon they use

sugar in it to make it sweet tasting so try to get regular bacon instead

IMO.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem - low

> >

> > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting back

> > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need one

> > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid afternoon

> >

> > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I guess

> > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what, about two

> >

> > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the high

> > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > where

> > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ---

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May 29, 2004

Crystal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem -

low

> > >

> > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting back

> > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need one

> > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

afternoon

> > >

> > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I

guess

> > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what, about

two

> > >

> > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the high

> > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > where

> > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

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5/22/2004

> > > > > > >

May 29, 2004

Sounds like an excellent breakfast to me!

Crystal

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem - low

> >

> > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting back

> > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need one

> > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid afternoon

> >

> > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I guess

> > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what, about two

> >

> > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the high

> > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > where

> > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ---

> > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

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> > > > > >

May 30, 2004

Hi there,

Lee's Delightful Wheat bread is 9 grams per slice and tastes very good

also. It is available at most stores. They also have a delightful white

bread but I like wheat better.

Sharon

Crystal

> > > >

> > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem - low

>

> > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting back

> > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need one

> > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid afternoon

>

> > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I guess

> > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what, about two

>

> > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the high

> > > > > 400s and now look

> > > where

> > > > > we are.

> > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > >

> > > > > ---

> > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date: 5/22/2004

> > > > >

May 30, 2004

not bad, thanks Sharon... BTW how are your sugars doing and are you getting

through the rough time in your life ok?

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > >

> > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem - low

> >

> > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting back

> > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need one

> > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid afternoon

> >

> > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I guess

> > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what, about two

> >

> > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the high

> > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > where

> > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ---

> > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

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> > > > > >

May 30, 2004

Hi ,

My sugars are doing better as a whole. I've been looking for the carb

counting guide because I had it in my computer but I haven't been able to

find it.

I'm surviving one day at a time thanks for asking. Sometimes I do some

stress eating and my sugars go up and I'm really trying very hard not to do

that. I've been reading everything you guys put out there on the list and

believe it or not I feel like you're my family. Thanks to everyone for

being there for all of us who need you. I hope I can do as much for someone

someday as you all have done for me just by helping.

My doctor wants to split my Lantus in half and try that for awhile because

in the morning my sugars are good but by nighttime they are creeping up.

What do you think of that? I asked about Humalog but they want to try this

first.

Anyway, again thanks for being there everyone, and I may have some questions

from time to time.

Sharon

Crystal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem -

low

> > >

> > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting back

> > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need one

> > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

afternoon

> > >

> > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I

guess

> > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what, about

two

> > >

> > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the high

> > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > where

> > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date:

5/22/2004

> > > > > > >

May 30, 2004

Hi Sharon.

Splitting the lantus with a type 2 diabetic is common practise and can work

for some so try it out.

The best option though is to get off the oral meds and onto humalog and

lantus if you get to the point it is to difficult to control your sugars via

oral meds and lantus.

BTW hang in there! One day at a time.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem -

> low

> > > >

> > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting

back

> > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need

one

> > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> afternoon

> > > >

> > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I

> guess

> > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what, about

> two

> > > >

> > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the

high

> > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date:

> 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > >

May 30, 2004

Thanks . You mean I should go strictly to the two kinds of insulin

and not take the glucophage and glyburide anymore if I can't control the

blood sugars? There are times when my sugar is controlled quite nicely It

just creeps up at night. I sometimes don't get home until 6 or 7:00 from

work then I have to fix dinner. Then I'm wondering if I go to bed too soon

after dinner and could that be one reason my sugar stays high or creeps up

at night? By the morning it's pretty normal about 120 or less. I notice

that stress plays a part in how high my sugar is too.

Sharon

Crystal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

problem -

> > low

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting

> back

> > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need

> one

> > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> > afternoon

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I

> > guess

> > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what,

about

> > two

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the

> high

> > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date:

> > 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > > >

May 30, 2004

Sharon,

At first I was quite concerned about my doctor recommending I qquit all my

oral medications at the time last August of glyburide and Actos and go

strictly on injectible insulin. I was started first on Lantus and later

Humalog was added for meal coverage of carbs consumed. In a matter of three

months on strictly insulin only Lantus and Humalog I went from an A1C of 9.2

to an A1C of 5.7. Since I am insulin resistant, I require a lot more

insulin than a person who is not insulin resistant.

Count those carbs consumed and dose Humalog to cover them, and you will be

under control in no time. Be sure to have glucose tablets on hand to deal

with the low sugar reactions you may have.

Crystal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> problem -

> > > low

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

cutting

> > back

> > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are

fairly

> > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only

need

> > one

> > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> > > afternoon

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well,

I

> > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what,

> about

> > > two

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the

> > high

> > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

(http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date:

> > > 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > > > >

May 30, 2004

yes, if you cannot control your blood sugar, pre meal 80 2 hour post meal

120 or less, go on the two types of insulin, humalog for carbs/meals and

lantus, and pitch the oral medications. I have many type 2 friends that use

insulin to get tighter control instead of oral meds. In fact, one of my type

2 friends is even on an insulin pump. I'm not encouraging that, but what I

am sayign is yes, if you cannot get tight enough control on the oral meds

and exercise, then go to the insulin.

HTH

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> problem -

> > > low

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

cutting

> > back

> > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are

fairly

> > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only

need

> > one

> > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> > > afternoon

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well,

I

> > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what,

> about

> > > two

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the

> > high

> > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

(http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date:

> > > 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > > > >

May 30, 2004

Sharon, You should really ask your doc why he has you on both insulin and

oral meds. Ask him about trying no oral meds. Often your sugars will go up

after eating because you are not getting enough H with your meal. If you

get up in the morning with a normal BS, then you would not be getting the

" dawn effect " that so many diabetics get-which is a high early morning BS.

What time is this high blood sugar happening after dinner? It might be that

you needs less carbs at your evening meal.

Re: Cy - low carb

Thanks . You mean I should go strictly to the two kinds of insulin

and not take the glucophage and glyburide anymore if I can't control the

blood sugars? There are times when my sugar is controlled quite nicely It

just creeps up at night. I sometimes don't get home until 6 or 7:00 from

work then I have to fix dinner. Then I'm wondering if I go to bed too soon

after dinner and could that be one reason my sugar stays high or creeps up

at night? By the morning it's pretty normal about 120 or less. I notice

that stress plays a part in how high my sugar is too.

Sharon

Crystal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

problem -

> > low

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting

> back

> > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need

> one

> > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> > afternoon

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I

> > guess

> > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what,

about

> > two

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the

> high

> > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date:

> > 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > > >

May 30, 2004

Sharon, He might want you to try splitting the Lantis, but really humalog

is the better answer. If you split the Lantis, you very well might end up

with high blood sugars all over the place What is his objection to using

Humalog?

Re: Cy - low carb

Hi ,

My sugars are doing better as a whole. I've been looking for the carb

counting guide because I had it in my computer but I haven't been able to

find it.

I'm surviving one day at a time thanks for asking. Sometimes I do some

stress eating and my sugars go up and I'm really trying very hard not to do

that. I've been reading everything you guys put out there on the list and

believe it or not I feel like you're my family. Thanks to everyone for

being there for all of us who need you. I hope I can do as much for someone

someday as you all have done for me just by helping.

My doctor wants to split my Lantus in half and try that for awhile because

in the morning my sugars are good but by nighttime they are creeping up.

What do you think of that? I asked about Humalog but they want to try this

first.

Anyway, again thanks for being there everyone, and I may have some questions

from time to time.

Sharon

Crystal

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem -

low

> > >

> > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting back

> > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need one

> > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

afternoon

> > >

> > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I

guess

> > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what, about

two

> > >

> > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the high

> > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > where

> > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date:

5/22/2004

> > > > > > >

May 30, 2004

I agree. Sharron, if you are up for it, go on humalog and we'll help you out

and you'll have very strict / tight sugar control. However, it will require

you to devote checking your sugar pre meal and 2 hours past eating a meal

all the time. But, the nice thing about that is it gives you control and

perhaps control is something that might be needed in your life right now...

having that feeling of being in control of something rather than nothing.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem -

> low

> > > >

> > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting

back

> > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need

one

> > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> afternoon

> > > >

> > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I

> guess

> > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what, about

> two

> > > >

> > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the

high

> > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date:

> 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > >

June 1, 2004

Thanks Harry. Sounds wonderful. My last a1c was 7.7 in March. It's time

to have another one soon. It was 9.3 before that so even though it's not

good it's at least coming down.

Sharon

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> > problem -

> > > > low

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

> cutting

> > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are

> fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only

> need

> > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> > > > afternoon

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time.

Well,

> I

> > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what,

> > about

> > > > two

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in

the

> > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > >

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June 1, 2004

I think you are right . My high blood sugar is about 3 hours after

dinner. So, I'm beginning to think it's what I'm eating. Will watch those

carbs.

Sharon

Crystal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> problem -

> > > low

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

cutting

> > back

> > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are

fairly

> > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only

need

> > one

> > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> > > afternoon

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well,

I

> > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what,

> about

> > > two

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the

> > high

> > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

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June 1, 2004

I'm not sure. Just said he wanted me to split the Lantus to try it.

Sharon

Crystal

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new problem -

> low

> > > >

> > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting

back

> > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need

one

> > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> afternoon

> > > >

> > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I

> guess

> > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what, about

> two

> > > >

> > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the

high

> > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

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> 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > >

June 1, 2004

You could be right. I go to see my doctor again on the 14th. Will talk

about this further.

Sharon

Crystal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

problem -

> > low

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting

> back

> > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need

> one

> > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> > afternoon

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I

> > guess

> > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what,

about

> > two

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the

> high

> > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date:

> > 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > > >

June 1, 2004

I know is right, and there is no doubt about it. I had to convince

my doctor that I knew what I was talking about and that I had a lot of

experts guiding me on my decision to use Humalog, which the doctor was

hesitant to start me on. I know his worry about having me use Humalog, so I

had to convince him that I was receiving very conservative guidance on how

to use it, since this is an insulin you don't want to mess around with. A

conservative statement in the use of Humalog is to say I will start on 1

unit of Humalog for 15 grams of carbs consumed, and I will do a glucose test

two hours afterwards. This statement calmed my doctor's fears. I also

assured him that I had glucose tablets on hand, too.

Since I am insulin resistant, after starting on the aforementioned dose, I

quickly had to raise my dosage level. After seveeral weeks, I was taking 1

unit of Humalog for every 2 grams of carbs consumed, which is my dose today.

Crystal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> problem -

> > > low

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

cutting

> > back

> > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are

fairly

> > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only

need

> > one

> > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> > > afternoon

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well,

I

> > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what,

> about

> > > two

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the

> > high

> > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

(http://www.grisoft.com).

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> > > 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > > > >

June 1, 2004

So, you split it and tried it. Lantus is a 24 hour insulin, and is highly

recommended to take once per day in a sincle dose. If you have been doing

fine on a split dose, then skipping the morning half dose and taking the

whole dose at night should work just fine. At least it works just fine for

the majority of folks, and chances are it will work just fine for you, too.

Crystal

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

problem -

> > low

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start cutting

> back

> > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are fairly

> > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only need

> one

> > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> > afternoon

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well, I

> > guess

> > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what,

about

> > two

> > > > >

> > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the

> high

> > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date:

> > 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > > >

June 1, 2004

You can get it down quicker and have greater stability by just cutting out

all the oral medications and using two kinds of insulin; Lantus and Humalog.

On oral medications I ran an A1C of 9.2 last August and started taking both

kinds of insulin in either late August or the first of September. By

December by just counting carbs and dosing with Lantus and Humalog my A1C

went down to a 5.7. By March and still taking no oral meds it had dropped

to 5.1. I am getting another A1C done tomorrow, and I think it will be near

5.1 or even lower. I will report my A1C results here when it comes in.

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> > > problem -

> > > > > low

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

> > cutting

> > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are

> > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably

only

> > need

> > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her

mid

> > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time.

> Well,

> > I

> > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for

what,

> > > about

> > > > > two

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in

> the

> > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

> > (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release

Date:

> > > > > 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > >

June 1, 2004

Or sharron you could think of humalog to cover the carbs so you can eat them

and not be high.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> > problem -

> > > > low

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

> cutting

> > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are

> fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only

> need

> > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> > > > afternoon

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time.

Well,

> I

> > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what,

> > about

> > > > two

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in

the

> > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

> (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date:

> > > > 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > > > > >

June 1, 2004

If your doc is not open to you going on insulin as a type 2 ask what his/her

objections are to it. I'd be curious to know.

I have so many type 2 diabetic friends on lantus/humalog it isn't even

funny. My one friend Liz is even on an insulin pump as a type 2 diabetic.

Most type 2 diabetics I know use inslun, some oral meds, but really depends

on if you can get your a1c to be 5.0 to 5.5 and only you can do that one

Sharron smile.

You could be able to get your a1c down by limiting carbs and seeig how many

grams you can eat at a meal to keep your pre meal 80 and your 2 hour post

meal 120 or less.

BTW hang in there and keep us update on your progress. If you are up for it,

limit yoru measl to no more than 45 grams of carbs and keep them 4 hours

apart. Just read the labels on foods if you can or have someone sighted help

you out.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> problem -

> > > low

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

cutting

> > back

> > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are

fairly

> > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably only

need

> > one

> > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her mid

> > > afternoon

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time. Well,

I

> > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for what,

> about

> > > two

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in the

> > high

> > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

(http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release Date:

> > > 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > > > >

June 1, 2004

yes. but once you get the system down you won't be running low sugars. You

will run 80 to 120 all the time.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> > > problem -

> > > > > low

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

> > cutting

> > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings are

> > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably

only

> > need

> > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her

mid

> > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time.

> Well,

> > I

> > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for

what,

> > > about

> > > > > two

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running in

> the

> > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

> > (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release

Date:

> > > > > 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > >

June 1, 2004

you take humalog before meals and the meals have to be 4 hours apart. The

reason for this is humalog peeks in about 2 hours and is out of your body in

4 hours. If you want to snack in between meals, you eat low carb snacks like

veggies, meats, cheeses, pickles,etc. Foods that will not raise your blood

sugar.

If you have more questions, please let us know.

Regards,

Crystal

> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey All!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Crystal went to the doctor today and we have a new

> > > > problem -

> > > > > > low

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar!! The Doc said Crystal needs to start

> > > cutting

> > > > > back

> > > > > > > > > > > > > on the morning Glucovance. Her morning readings

are

> > > fairly

> > > > > > > > > > > > > consistent in the mid 60s now. She will probably

> only

> > > need

> > > > > one

> > > > > > > > > > > > > of the Glucovance tablets when it is this low. Her

> mid

> > > > > > afternoon

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > blood sugar is around 80 to 90 from time to time.

> > Well,

> > > I

> > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > > > > > > youall were correct. We have been doing this for

> what,

> > > > about

> > > > > > two

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > or so months? When we started Crystal was running

in

> > the

> > > > > high

> > > > > > > > > > > > > 400s and now look

> > > > > > > > > > > where

> > > > > > > > > > > > > we are.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Count them carbs! It really does work!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > The Ancient One...

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ---

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system

> > > (http://www.grisoft.com).

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 6.0.690 / Virus Database: 451 - Release

> Date:

> >

> > > > > > 5/22/2004

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > > > > > > > > > > > >

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