RE: (unknown)

December 2, 2004

Hi ,

I'm sorry to hear about your Dad. If he is in the first stage of cirrhosis,

then he's stage 4, correct?

Learning about this virus takes a toll on a person. There are stages we go

through learning to accept it. Your Dad is no different. it's a big shock for

many people and takes time for it all to settle in.

I don't know anything about treatment making a liver worse. If he were end

stage, very end stage, it might do that. I'm not a doc, so I can't say. Usually

they say doing treatment helps buy some time even if the person doesn't clear.

You might double check on that info.

With all those long side effects, during treatment, I had none of them until my

6th month of treatment, then I started with the fatigue. I was working during

treatment. I got laid off about the 7th month, couldn't help that, so it sort of

worked out. About the 8th month I got some awful migraines. I tend to get

migraines and these wouldn't even respond to medication. Several gastros tried

to talk me out of stopping treatment but since I was pcr negative and close to

the end of completing treatment, I wasn't about to. I had some moodiness, but

nothing big. Mostly it was like PMS. Though I don't think you're Dad has ever

had PMS LOL.

If he needs treatment, he can try it, and you know, he can always stop if it

gets to be a problem. There are anti depressants he can get on before

treatment, and all kinds of things to be pro-active.

It's not like he has to do treatment this very second. Give him a little time to

adjust. Maybe attending a local live support group will help. Finding heppers

with real live hugs is priceless. (the real priceless

Good luck. Let us know what's happening. I'm glad you are with him to help.

Alley

June 18, 2005

Ha Ha I have been answering email from a couple of groups and some private

friends. Today must be Nat'l man-bashing day. I have heard some very good

comments today. Enjoyed every single one of them, too!

Sharon

(unknown)

Don't you dare keep your mouth shut.

I enjoy your post. And honey if we all were right all the time, we

would be perfect and not need this group. But we aren't. Heck, I

can't

spell half the time. LOL

It doesn't matter if it is called STD,STI,STwhatever.

What matters is that you are a part of this group and you need to

keep

on posting.

Like I said no-one is perfect, well my husband " thinks " he is. But I

think he has been wearing my glasses. LOL

Love

Janet

> Ill stay out of things I guess Sorry Keep my mouth shut Seems im

> always wrong

It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found

the support you need with us.

If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just

click the link--

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/Hepatitis_C_Central/>

Happy Posting

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June 18, 2005

Honey, what is this about,, you are not always wrong,, please tell me what is

goin on here!

hugs

jax

Annita Finkemeier wrote:

Ill stay out of things I guess Sorry Keep my mouth shut Seems im

always wrong

It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the

support you need with us.

If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click

the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/

Happy Posting

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June 18, 2005

Annita, I agree with Janet! I've only been here a little while, but I enjoy

reading your posts! Right, wrong, who cares? I admire your passion!

Marilyn

(unknown)

Don't you dare keep your mouth shut.

I enjoy your post. And honey if we all were right all the time, we

would be perfect and not need this group. But we aren't. Heck, I

can't

spell half the time. LOL

It doesn't matter if it is called STD,STI,STwhatever.

What matters is that you are a part of this group and you need to

keep

on posting.

Like I said no-one is perfect, well my husband " thinks " he is. But I

think he has been wearing my glasses. LOL

Love

Janet

> Ill stay out of things I guess Sorry Keep my mouth shut Seems im

> always wrong

June 19, 2005

Thanks muchly Annita

> > Ill stay out of things I guess Sorry Keep my mouth shut Seems

im

> > always wrong

>

August 17, 2005

on my chest by the bone near throat to the right abit

They have ruled out thyroind and lymph

okseven_7

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August 17, 2005

on my chest by the bone near throat to the right abit

They have ruled out thyroind and lymph

okseven_7

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August 17, 2005

doesn't everybody have those lumps of fat inder the skin? Really

if you use medium pressure with your fingertips you'll prolly

find some. ..ok 7 do you have them other places? I have seen

one removed and it was just a hard translucent nodule of fat

Nothing to worry about but remove if it's unsightly....

August 17, 2005

Will check into this

Thanks

okseven_7

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August 17, 2005

Will check into this

Thanks

okseven_7

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August 17, 2005

Will check into this

Thanks

okseven_7

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August 17, 2005

can you move it around? it might be a calcium deposit or maybe just one of those

fatty tumors,, hard to say, I sure wish I could feel it, and see it ,, then I

might have an idea,,

ms seven wonders wrote:on my chest by the bone near throat

to the right abit

They have ruled out thyroind and lymph

okseven_7

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August 17, 2005

can you move it around? it might be a calcium deposit or maybe just one of those

fatty tumors,, hard to say, I sure wish I could feel it, and see it ,, then I

might have an idea,,

ms seven wonders wrote:on my chest by the bone near throat

to the right abit

They have ruled out thyroind and lymph

okseven_7

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August 17, 2005

I will have to open up my anatomy book to make sure of the area and then go from

there . Nursey is also a real nurse she may have some information also , she

works with hepatitis c patients .

Re: (unknown)

on my chest by the bone near throat to the right abit

They have ruled out thyroind and lymph

okseven_7

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August 17, 2005

I am totaly stumped on this one , when I reveiwed the illustrations I have the

only things in that area are blood vessles, muscles , and nodes .......and if

its not either the nodes or the thyroid it is a real puzzle . Lemme know what

the dr finally finds out .

Re: (unknown)

Will check into this

Thanks

okseven_7

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August 17, 2005

I am totaly stumped on this one , when I reveiwed the illustrations I have the

only things in that area are blood vessles, muscles , and nodes .......and if

its not either the nodes or the thyroid it is a real puzzle . Lemme know what

the dr finally finds out .

Re: (unknown)

Will check into this

Thanks

okseven_7

__________________________________________________

August 17, 2005

I am totaly stumped on this one , when I reveiwed the illustrations I have the

only things in that area are blood vessles, muscles , and nodes .......and if

its not either the nodes or the thyroid it is a real puzzle . Lemme know what

the dr finally finds out .

Re: (unknown)

Will check into this

Thanks

okseven_7

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August 17, 2005

I will do that

The drs are all stumped

Im anxious to find out myself

okseven_7

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August 25, 2005

Kick me off grou i dont care

and ric I asked the other night

if you were on I needed to talk to someone and

your smiley face was

lit up

So I asked

and u said i wouldnt tell ya if I was

HUH? someone please help

August 28, 2006

Hi Klara,

Wabi sabi is a little hard to define. Even Japanese people shy away from giving any kind of clear definition. Quite a lot of the book is taken up explaining it but briefly I could describe it by taking the phrases; acceptance, living in the moment, making the most of your life as it happens, tranquillity, being yourself, a love of nature, embracing the idea that everything is part of a process – always incomplete and imperfect, learning how to appreciate and enjoy the most mundane things in life.

The aim is to create an environment where you can get enjoy those wabi sabi feelings. It is interesting for me as there is a large crossover with Ohsawa’s teachings and it reminded me of how much he drew on Zen Buddhist principles when writing about his philosophy of macrobiotics.

Does this help?

All the best,

Simon

Simon,

Excuse my ignorance, but what is Wabi Sabi - I love the sound of it.

Reggie,

mb-ically, enemas are a little bit, ok, alot, more forceful than going the natural way - but sometimes it really can do amazing things. Way back pre-mb, after my last birth, I was having tremendous gas pains, so paralyzing that I could hardly even move to the phone to call someone for help. Eventually I did call for help, my friend had no idea what to do so they called an ambulance, and I was quite embarrassed that is was " just gas. " - but so amazed at how the enema relieved it so easily, and considering all the other options of medication and who knows what else, an enema was pretty tame. The gas was a problem I'd been having previous to the birth, so I'm not sure if it was related. At that time, I was privileged to figure out that certain foods did bring it on, so little by little I began eliminating those culprits, coffee, o! il and when I did have an attack, I found relief in charcoal pills.

That was the old days. I'm in amazement now when I think about it. I gratefully haven't taken any kinds of pills in so long - nor coffee, nor oil of the old kind, and very very little of the mb kind.

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September 26, 2006

Jeff;

This could potentially be a hypersensitivity reaction to your meds.

It's hard to tell from the information. Such a reaction can be

potentially life-threatening.

At any rate, it should be treated as a medical emergency. Please call

your doctor and have him, or whomever is on call for the practice, paged

to report the symptoms. If you can't reach someone immediately, I feel

that you should go to the nearest Emergency Room. I always vote for

safety first.

Good luck and please let us know how things turn out.

Sanford

Sanford M. Gross, OD, FAAO

Associate Professor

Illinois College of Optometry

3241 South Michigan Ave

Chicago, Illinois 60616

>>> Jeff 09/26/06 2:12 PM >>>

hi i'm jeff, i'm still new to the drug therapy.im' on atripla and i'm

on the 12th day spent last night in er, fever and bad chills and high

blood preasure and stiff neck and headach,joints hurt and lower chins

quite painfull very miserable night.rash all over.very depessed

yesterday and confused could hardly spell anything. i guess this may be

typical but not sure, anyone been there and maybe some insights would be

greatly appreciated, thanks jeff

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September 26, 2006

Jeff;

This could potentially be a hypersensitivity reaction to your meds.

It's hard to tell from the information. Such a reaction can be

potentially life-threatening.

At any rate, it should be treated as a medical emergency. Please call

your doctor and have him, or whomever is on call for the practice, paged

to report the symptoms. If you can't reach someone immediately, I feel

that you should go to the nearest Emergency Room. I always vote for

safety first.

Good luck and please let us know how things turn out.

Sanford

Sanford M. Gross, OD, FAAO

Associate Professor

Illinois College of Optometry

3241 South Michigan Ave

Chicago, Illinois 60616

>>> Jeff 09/26/06 2:12 PM >>>

hi i'm jeff, i'm still new to the drug therapy.im' on atripla and i'm

on the 12th day spent last night in er, fever and bad chills and high

blood preasure and stiff neck and headach,joints hurt and lower chins

quite painfull very miserable night.rash all over.very depessed

yesterday and confused could hardly spell anything. i guess this may be

typical but not sure, anyone been there and maybe some insights would be

greatly appreciated, thanks jeff

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January 12, 2007

Joyce, enjoyed your thoughts on brewing KT. I have one thing of concern to

relate:

>***** I boil the water to brew the tea in a large stainless steel pot. I

>add the tea to the already boiling water, and brew the tea in the same

>pot, steeping it for 15 minutes, and then I remove the tea and add the

>sugar, put the lid on and leave it in that pot overnight to come to room

>temperature,

Sugared tea is an ideal mold vector. The practice of cooling sweetened tea

overnight is not ideal, in my opinion. Leaving the lid on without any vent

is actually even a little less ideal-- food practice calls for venting

cooling containers until they can be placed under refrigeration.

If you are using filtered water, there's no need to boil all the

water. Boiling does remove chlorine, but it does not remove chloramines,

another type of chlorine treatment that is increasingly used by municipal

water companies (so, people need to know their water source and make

decisions accordingly). Boiling removes oxygen from the water, and

concentrates mineral and undesired content. And, when people boil all

their water, cooling-time becomes an issue, at which point molds may have

an opportunity to grow a bit. (So the argument that boiling the tea and/or

sugar is a safety practice is outdated.)

KT is a very strong culture and basically kills everything that tries to

invade it, but I think there is wisdom in avoiding known risks. Sugared

tea, sitting overnight, is a risk. I don't know how to find the source on

this, but we have been told that restaurants are not allowed to let ice-tea

dispensers sit out overnight.

In addition, boiling requires fuel, and when there is nothing to gain from

boiling all the water, it's an opportunity to save the fuel.

I boil a portion of my water (2-4 cups), steep the tea in that, strain,

dissolve the sugar, and add that to the bulk of the water waiting in the

vessel. Voila! Instantly cooled... put in the SCOBY and reserved starter

liquid, cover it, and I'm done.

wishing you well,

--

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

January 12, 2007