Guest guest Posted March 2, 2011 Report Share Posted March 2, 2011 Hmm its tough to tell. Heavy metal issues are so similar to lyme symptoms. My urine has tested high for mercury and theyre doing a more sensitive test with my hair now for heavy metals. To treat based on symptoms is tough, it could be either or causing them. I have read that the 41 igg test could be reactive and not because of lyme? I dont know. This is all so confusing. In a message dated 3/2/2011 1:05:19 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, dglsrichey@... writes: Daisy, I tested negative and then 4 months later retested positive regarding the same tick bite. If you have it you need to jump on it right away. Why not go on the lymebuhner website or Europeanlyme site both are smart. Doug From: _daisytiff228@..._ (mailto:daisytiff228@...) <_daisytiff228@..._ (mailto:daisytiff228@...) > Subject: lyme disease _candidiasis _ (mailto:candidiasis ) Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 10:56 PM hello all, I need some help. Hopefully someone will know. I went to a new doctor who is very thorough and she tested me for 8 strains of lyme. She said one came back reactive, 41 kd IGG. And tested positive for m. pneumoniae ab igg (mycoplasm). The rest were non reactive, had 8 strains tested. Does anyone know if this is definitely positive of lyme, or if something else could cause this to be reactive? I dont want to go on months of antibiotics if Im not sure because I thought the heavy metals were more my issue. If anyone knows about lyme or these tests, any advice would be really appreciated. thanks, tiffany [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 I would ask this question on the lymenet.org forums. There, you can get a lot of responses. I found this explanation of the bands in a western blot. According to this (and my memory about these test results), your results are significant. The 41 band IS definitely indicative of Lyme infection. Below is the breakdown of the Western Blot bands: 9 cross-reactive for Borrellia 12 specific for Bb 18 unknown 20 cross-reactive for Borrellia 21 unknown 22 specific for Bb, probably really the 23/25 band 23-25 outer surface protein C (OspC), specific for Bb 28 unknown 30 unknown; probably an outer surface protein; common in European and one California strain 31 outer surface protein A (OspA), specific for Bb 34 outer surface protein B (OspB); specific for Bb 35 specific for Bb 37 specific for Bb 38 cross-reactive for Bb 39 is a major protein of Bb flagellin; specific for Bb 41 flagellin protein of all spirochetes; this is usually the first to appear after a Bb infection and is specific for all Borrellia 45 cross-reactive for all Borellia 50 cross-reactive for all Borrellia 55 cross-reactive for all Borrellia 57 cross-reactive for all Borrellia 58 unknown but may be a heat-shock Bb protein 60 cross reactive for all Borrellia 66 cross-reactive for all Borrelia, common in all bacteria 83 specific antigen for the Lyme bacterium, probably a cytoplasmic membrane 93 unknown, probably the same protein in band 83, just migrates differently in some patients The IgM typically tests for a more recent infection (although it has been found that in long term infections, the IGM will be reactive and the IGG will not. This is because the immune system is so compromised) and the IgG a longer standing one. Bands 31 and 34 are Lyme specific bands. Band 39 is a Lyme specific band. Band 41 is often the first to show and yours is positive. I would ask your doctor for a copy of the test results so that you can see it for yourself. A good lyme literate doctor would know that the results are significant. You can find such doctors by asking on lymenet.org forums. Read more at http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=557417 & highlight=reading+wes\ tern+blot+results & ktrack=kcplink > > > hello all, > > I need some help. Hopefully someone will know. I went to a new doctor who > is very thorough and she tested me for 8 strains of lyme. She said one came > back reactive, 41 kd IGG. And tested positive for m. pneumoniae ab igg > (mycoplasm). The rest were non reactive, had 8 strains tested. Does anyone know > if this is definitely positive of lyme, or if something else could cause > this to be reactive? I dont want to go on months of antibiotics if Im not > sure because I thought the heavy metals were more my issue. If anyone knows > about lyme or these tests, any advice would be really appreciated. > > thanks, > tiffany > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2011 Report Share Posted March 3, 2011 just take the mms/aot from wil our group member--it will absolutely deal with the heavy metals * & * the lyme * & * whatever.. NOT confusing at ALLLouise From: _daisytiff228@..._ (mailto:daisytiff228@...) <_daisytiff228@..._ (mailto:daisytiff228@...) > Subject: lyme disease _candidiasis _ (mailto:candidiasis ) Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 10:56 PM hello all, I need some help. Hopefully someone will know. I went to a new doctor who is very thorough and she tested me for 8 strains of lyme. She said one came back reactive, 41 kd IGG. And tested positive for m. pneumoniae ab igg (mycoplasm). The rest were non reactive, had 8 strains tested. Does anyone know if this is definitely positive of lyme, or if something else could cause this to be reactive? I dont want to go on months of antibiotics if Im not sure because I thought the heavy metals were more my issue. If anyone knows about lyme or these tests, any advice would be really appreciated. thanks, tiffany [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 While MMS/AOT has gotten a lot of press in this group, there is no proof that taking this product is safe. It may kill lyme, " deal " with heavy metals (although I have no idea how), but no ones knows what else it does to the healthy tissue in the body. People may take it and be 'fine', but people take chemo therapy and become " fine " also. Robin > > From: _daisytiff228@..._ (mailto:daisytiff228@...) > <_daisytiff228@..._ (mailto:daisytiff228@...) > > Subject: lyme disease > _candidiasis _ (mailto:candidiasis ) > Date: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 10:56 PM > > > > hello all, > > I need some help. Hopefully someone will know. I went to a new doctor who > > is very thorough and she tested me for 8 strains of lyme. She said one > came > > back reactive, 41 kd IGG. And tested positive for m. pneumoniae ab igg > > (mycoplasm). The rest were non reactive, had 8 strains tested. Does anyone > know > > if this is definitely positive of lyme, or if something else could cause > > this to be reactive? I dont want to go on months of antibiotics if Im not > > sure because I thought the heavy metals were more my issue. If anyone > knows > > about lyme or these tests, any advice would be really appreciated. > > thanks, > > tiffany > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 On this week's Natural Newsletter (Mike , Health Ranger) there is a video of a woman who cured herself of Lyme Disease, this got the most votes in a contest for best Personal Transformation. Havent watched it, but I know a few people on here are trying MMS & other therapies for Lyme, just thought this may be of interest to them. If you log onto www.naturalnews.com you will see it & you can also subscribe to the daily newsletter. Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 Val Thanks for sharing this, and I will play it forward:) --- In , " mijas07 " <mijas07@...> wrote: > > On this week's Natural Newsletter (Mike , Health Ranger) there is a video of a woman who cured herself of Lyme Disease, this got the most votes in a contest for best Personal Transformation. Havent watched it, but I know a few people on here are trying MMS & other therapies for Lyme, just thought this may be of interest to them. If you log onto www.naturalnews.com you will see it & you can also subscribe to the daily newsletter. > > Val > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 thank you for the infol In a message dated 3/6/2011 12:15:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, listenswithcare@... writes: I would ask this question on the lymenet.org forums. There, you can get a lot of responses. I found this explanation of the bands in a western blot. According to this (and my memory about these test results), your results are significant. The 41 band IS definitely indicative of Lyme infection. Below is the breakdown of the Western Blot bands: 9 cross-reactive for Borrellia 12 specific for Bb 18 unknown 20 cross-reactive for Borrellia 21 unknown 22 specific for Bb, probably really the 23/25 band 23-25 outer surface protein C (OspC), specific for Bb 28 unknown 30 unknown; probably an outer surface protein; common in European and one California strain 31 outer surface protein A (OspA), specific for Bb 34 outer surface protein B (OspB); specific for Bb 35 specific for Bb 37 specific for Bb 38 cross-reactive for Bb 39 is a major protein of Bb flagellin; specific for Bb 41 flagellin protein of all spirochetes; this is usually the first to appear after a Bb infection and is specific for all Borrellia 45 cross-reactive for all Borellia 50 cross-reactive for all Borrellia 55 cross-reactive for all Borrellia 57 cross-reactive for all Borrellia 58 unknown but may be a heat-shock Bb protein 60 cross reactive for all Borrellia 66 cross-reactive for all Borrelia, common in all bacteria 83 specific antigen for the Lyme bacterium, probably a cytoplasmic membrane 93 unknown, probably the same protein in band 83, just migrates differently in some patients The IgM typically tests for a more recent infection (although it has been found that in long term infections, the IGM will be reactive and the IGG will not. This is because the immune system is so compromised) and the IgG a longer standing one. Bands 31 and 34 are Lyme specific bands. Band 39 is a Lyme specific band. Band 41 is often the first to show and yours is positive. I would ask your doctor for a copy of the test results so that you can see it for yourself. A good lyme literate doctor would know that the results are significant. You can find such doctors by asking on lymenet.org forums. Read more at _http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=557417 & highlight=reading+we\ stern+blot+results & ktrack=kcplink_ (http://www.healthboards.com/boards/showthread.php?t=557417 & highlight=reading+we\ stern+blot+results & k track=kcplink) --- In _candidiasis _ (mailto:candidiasis ) , daisytiff228@... wrote: > > > hello all, > > I need some help. Hopefully someone will know. I went to a new doctor who > is very thorough and she tested me for 8 strains of lyme. She said one came > back reactive, 41 kd IGG. And tested positive for m. pneumoniae ab igg > (mycoplasm). The rest were non reactive, had 8 strains tested. Does anyone know > if this is definitely positive of lyme, or if something else could cause > this to be reactive? I dont want to go on months of antibiotics if Im not > sure because I thought the heavy metals were more my issue. If anyone knows > about lyme or these tests, any advice would be really appreciated. > > thanks, > tiffany > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2011 Report Share Posted March 6, 2011 If you take antibiotics you will be worse, especially in the long run.. If you take MMS/AOT (Wil markets as AOT: bodyelectrician.com), it will kill lyme and any other pathogens in your body. I take it and it is cheap, natural and working wonders in me and my daughter, and millions globally!! Can't recommend Wil as a naturo healer, and the MMS/AOT, enough.. Louise > > > hello all, > > I need some help. Hopefully someone will know. I went to a new doctor who > is very thorough and she tested me for 8 strains of lyme. She said one came > back reactive, 41 kd IGG. And tested positive for m. pneumoniae ab igg > (mycoplasm). The rest were non reactive, had 8 strains tested. Does anyone know > if this is definitely positive of lyme, or if something else could cause > this to be reactive? I dont want to go on months of antibiotics if Im not > sure because I thought the heavy metals were more my issue. If anyone knows > about lyme or these tests, any advice would be really appreciated. > > thanks, > tiffany > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2011 Report Share Posted March 17, 2011 For Lyme's Disease, Electroherbalism and Traditional Chinese Medicine. On 3/17/2011 8:46 PM, Helen Wang wrote: > Does coconut oil help lyme patients? any research about that? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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