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Hmmm....come to think of it, maybe mine's not either... To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 9:19 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

My son hisses when he's mad, but he's not pretending to be a cat To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Tuesday, May 1, 2012 6:34 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

My ten yr old boy with PDD-NOS has been obsessed with cats since a year old. Until this year his room was covered in cat pix and posters. He keeps all his birthday cards, etc with cats on them. His favorite stuffy was a cat. Now he has advanced to having an ocelot poster on his wall!:) But he meows and hisses, still. To: autism-aspergers

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My daughter who is now 13 , does the hand rubbing , when she gets stressed , almost to the point of rubbing her hands until the skin started to peel on her hands , at one point she began to chew the side of her tongue also. I have also had to deal with head banging ,not from her but my 6 year old grandson is autistic also , and at one point he was so bad we were thinking of getting him a helmet to keep him from injuring himself. Thank goodness for our pediatrician he really helped my family . Things are getting better its all about good days and bad ones . We just roll with the punches and start over the next daySent from my HTC smartphone on the Now Network from Sprint!----- Reply message -----To: <autism-aspergers >Subject: I give up......Date: Sun, Apr 29, 2012 11:48 pm

My 7 yo meows and walks on all fours. He does it in response to stress. He'll do it for a week or so then stop. He is also obsessed with all things cat. He brings home book after book on cats and talks about them incessently. When our female passed, had panic attacks off and on for a week. He brings her up alot and says she's with Jesus and our dog.

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>>OMG!!! My son licks the back of his hand!! We call him kitty cat! What makes someone do this?????? I gotta hear why!!

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>>My son showed signs of autism almost from birth. He would stare at bright lights, trees moving and anything that spun. He never turned to our voices like his twin sister did from a very early age. I told his Ped that he had autism during a 7/8week well care visit! Yes, things got worse before they got better. Before intensive therapy (25-30 hours each week!)

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>>Anyway...my son would flip his hand over and suck on the outside of his pinky when he would get upset. He would also rub the back of his hand against his lips. Totally for sensory calming....

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>>Please BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!

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Sara,

I would totally look into have him allergy tested via blood and stool for sure

(posssibly skin prick too). Two of my four brothers were violent head bangers,

late talkers and cried constantly until they were about 4. My mom had them

tested and sure enough, they had quite a few allergies. The more violent head

banger also had sensory issues that seemed to get better with a stricter diet.

He is now very successful in his job and family but has quite a few " quirks " ,

although none that interfere with his daily life. My other brother has not been

strict with his diet and has devloped diverticulitis unfortunately.

My son and I also have food allergies but it presents differently in us. This

may also be the reason your son is rubbing his nose because of allergies.

Someone mentioned hypoallergenic formula but truly nothing can be hypoallergenic

because various people react to different things. If the formula is dairy based,

he could have a dairy intolerance and not be able to handle it. If it's soy or

corn based, same thing. The best way to do it is use the allergy tests as tools

and eliminate those things from his diet. You may want to join the yahoo group

" foodlab " . Everyone on there has a story to tell and some may be similar to

yours.

On a different note, cranial sacral therapy (or even just basic chiropractic

manipulation) can do wonders for some people. My aspie/sensory ds and I have

received it for the past few years and really has helped us.

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Well the formula is for my 3 month old, he has a milk allergy. But as far as my

other son he is 20 months and he eats normal food.... Sometimes. Sometimes he

eats baby food because he has a hard time chewing. But all the dr. he has seen

they all think he def has a sensory issue. But Coltons entire diet consists of

like 5 things. Because he just completely hates food now. And will only eat

gluten free steel cut oatmeal. Brown rice, and gluten free pasta.

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>I would totally look into have him allergy tested via blood and stool for sure

(posssibly skin prick too). Two of my four brothers were violent head bangers,

late talkers and cried constantly until they were about 4. My mom had them

tested and sure enough, they had quite a few allergies. The more violent head

banger also had sensory issues that seemed to get better with a stricter diet.

He is now very successful in his job and family but has quite a few " quirks " ,

although none that interfere with his daily life. My other brother has not been

strict with his diet and has devloped diverticulitis unfortunately.

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>My son and I also have food allergies but it presents differently in us. This

may also be the reason your son is rubbing his nose because of allergies.

Someone mentioned hypoallergenic formula but truly nothing can be hypoallergenic

because various people react to different things. If the formula is dairy based,

he could have a dairy intolerance and not be able to handle it. If it's soy or

corn based, same thing. The best way to do it is use the allergy tests as tools

and eliminate those things from his diet. You may want to join the yahoo group

" foodlab " . Everyone on there has a story to tell and some may be similar to

yours.

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>On a different note, cranial sacral therapy (or even just basic chiropractic

manipulation) can do wonders for some people. My aspie/sensory ds and I have

received it for the past few years and really has helped us.

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I have thought about doing that but he shares a room with his older brother. So

there is no way I could take everything out and there is a lot of stuff that he

could get into on the changing table. Its hard only havin 3 bedrooms and 4 kids.

3 of which are boys. I cant wait to move, ugh!!

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items, etc for periods of time.  As soon as he is overwhelmed, I would move him

to his crib.  I would try a compression vest.  I would try a ball pit or a

trampoline.  Does he have an OT?  How many things are in his room? Maybe if you

could take everything out but just a ball pit or a 1 person trampoline or some

balls or something or even a swing?  Just keep it very simple and see if he can

be calm in those environments.  I would try to add myself into the mix for short

periods of time but don't make major demands on him.  Just be with him....

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What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that.

That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.

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Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

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A friend of mine has a son who is I think about 8 and he plays with his logos in the closet. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that.

That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.

  Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

-- Re: I give up......> >> >Does he meow too, cause my older daughter taught colton how to and he has been doing it ever since over and over and over>>>________________________________> From: R.

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I need some help before I lose my mind. My 26 yr. old son is having a lot of trouble sleeping.Meletonin never worked for him. He has taken Trazadone for years but it seems to have stopped working. The doc has tried a new med that has worked for a lot of people. Didn't work for my son. The doc also tried Lunesta. No help. He hasn't tried Ambien but said he doesn't want to give it to my son. His insommnia is horrible. He is getting very depressed. He feels hopeless.He never knows when he will sleep. It seems the doc has given up on him. He told me to put my son in a facility here in Orlando. I checked into it to see if he could be there a short while until he gets the sleep cycle back. The place was mostly

scitsophrenics (sorry, don't know how to spell it and spell check wasnt a big help tonight.) So, there was no way my son was going in there.My husband also suggested the same thing as the doctor. My husband said we can't do anything with our friends because my son is 24/7. My son has no one else. And he isn't 24/7. He can live on his own. He just needs help. We are supposed to go on a month long cruise in October and I'm already dreddng it. I was afraid to tell my husband no. It's not even a place I want to go to but our friends are going and that was enough for my husband. Back to the subject. Does anyone know if they would be able to help him if I took him to the ER? We spoke with his primary care doctor but he said that's the phsyciatrist's job. I am supposed to leave Orlando Tuesday of next week that also makes me

crazy.Thanks.Eileen To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that.

That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.

  Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

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Has he tried Klonipan (not sure of the spelling)? It is the only thing that helps my grown daughter sleep. Also, I understand your fears of leaving him on his own while you are away. Is there a family member that can check in on him? There are also caretakers for hire that would stay with him, part-time or full-time. (care.com) To: "autism-aspergers "

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I need some help before I lose my mind. My 26 yr. old son is having a lot of trouble sleeping.Meletonin never worked for him. He has taken Trazadone for years but it seems to have stopped working. The doc has tried a new med that has worked for a lot of people. Didn't work for my son. The doc also tried Lunesta. No help. He hasn't tried Ambien but said he doesn't want to give it to my son. His insommnia is horrible. He is getting very depressed. He feels hopeless.He never knows when he will sleep. It seems the doc has given up on him. He told me to put my son in a facility here in Orlando. I checked into it to see if he could be there a short while until he gets the sleep cycle

back. The place was mostly

scitsophrenics (sorry, don't know how to spell it and spell check wasnt a big help tonight.) So, there was no way my son was going in there.My husband also suggested the same thing as the doctor. My husband said we can't do anything with our friends because my son is 24/7. My son has no one else. And he isn't 24/7. He can live on his own. He just needs help. We are supposed to go on a month long cruise in October and I'm already dreddng it. I was afraid to tell my husband no. It's not even a place I want to go to but our friends are going and that was enough for my husband. Back to the subject. Does anyone know if they would be able to help him if I took him to the ER? We spoke with his primary care doctor but he said that's the phsyciatrist's job. I am supposed to leave Orlando Tuesday of next week that also makes me

crazy.Thanks.Eileen To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that.

That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.

  Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

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Has your Psych dr tried Clonidine? Just checking.... To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:29 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

Has he tried Klonipan (not sure of the spelling)? It is the only thing that helps my grown daughter sleep. Also, I understand your fears of leaving him on his own while you are away. Is there a family member that can check in on him? There are also caretakers for hire that would stay with him, part-time or full-time. (care.com) To: "autism-aspergers "

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I need some help before I lose my mind. My 26 yr. old son is having a lot of trouble sleeping.Meletonin never worked for him. He has taken Trazadone for years but it seems to have stopped working. The doc has tried a new med that has worked for a lot of people. Didn't work for my son. The doc also tried Lunesta. No help. He hasn't tried Ambien but said he doesn't want to give it to my son. His insommnia is horrible. He is getting very depressed. He feels hopeless.He never knows when he will sleep. It seems the doc has given up on him. He told me to put my son in a facility here in Orlando. I checked into it to see if he could be there a short while until he gets the sleep cycle

back. The place was mostly

scitsophrenics (sorry, don't know how to spell it and spell check wasnt a big help tonight.) So, there was no way my son was going in there.My husband also suggested the same thing as the doctor. My husband said we can't do anything with our friends because my son is 24/7. My son has no one else. And he isn't 24/7. He can live on his own. He just needs help. We are supposed to go on a month long cruise in October and I'm already dreddng it. I was afraid to tell my husband no. It's not even a place I want to go to but our friends are going and that was enough for my husband. Back to the subject. Does anyone know if they would be able to help him if I took him to the ER? We spoke with his primary care doctor but he said that's the phsyciatrist's job. I am supposed to leave Orlando Tuesday of next week that also makes me

crazy.Thanks.Eileen To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that.

That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.

  Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

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Yes, he has tried Clonidine. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 8:33 AM Subject: Re:

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Has your Psych dr tried Clonidine? Just checking.... To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 7:29 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

Has he tried Klonipan (not sure of the spelling)? It is the only thing that helps my grown daughter sleep. Also, I understand your fears of leaving him on his own while you are away. Is there a family member that can check in on him? There are also caretakers for hire that would stay with him, part-time or full-time. (care.com) From: E dillon

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<autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:59 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

I need some help before I lose my mind. My 26 yr. old son is having a lot of trouble sleeping.Meletonin never worked for him. He has taken Trazadone for years but it seems to have stopped working. The doc has tried a new med that has worked for a lot of people. Didn't work for my son. The doc also tried Lunesta. No help. He hasn't tried Ambien but said he doesn't want to give it to my son. His insommnia is horrible. He is getting very depressed. He feels hopeless.He never knows when he will sleep. It seems the doc has given up on him. He told me to put my son in a facility here in Orlando. I checked into it to see if he could be there a short while until he gets the sleep cycle

back. The place was mostly

scitsophrenics (sorry, don't know how to spell it and spell check wasnt a big help tonight.) So, there was no way my son was going in there.My husband also suggested the same thing as the doctor. My husband said we can't do anything with our friends because my son is 24/7. My son has no one else. And he isn't 24/7. He can live on his own. He just needs help. We are supposed to go on a month long cruise in October and I'm already dreddng it. I was afraid to tell my husband no. It's not even a place I want to go to but our friends are going and that was enough for my husband. Back to the subject. Does anyone know if they would be able to help him if I took him to the ER? We spoke with his primary care doctor but he said that's the phsyciatrist's job. I am supposed to leave Orlando Tuesday of next week that also makes me

crazy.Thanks.Eileen To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that.

That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.

  Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

-- Re: I give up...... > > > >Does he meow too, cause my older daughter taught colton how to and he has been doing it ever since over and over and over > > >________________________________ > From: R.

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yeah that sounds like Colton, lol To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:34 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

A friend of mine has a son who is I think about 8 and he plays with his logos in the closet. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that.

That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.

  Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

-- Re: I give up...... > > > >Does he meow too, cause my older daughter taught colton how to and he has been doing it ever since over and over and over > > >________________________________ > From: R.

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Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is

happy. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that.

That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.

  Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

-- Re: I give up......> >> >Does he meow too, cause my older daughter taught colton how to and he has been doing it ever since over and over and over>>>________________________________> From: R.

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Have you tried just taking him to a different Dr. for a second opinion? I think I would try that. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:59 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

I need some help before I lose my mind. My 26 yr. old son is having a lot of trouble sleeping.Meletonin never worked for him. He has taken Trazadone for years but it seems to have stopped working. The doc has tried a new med that has worked for a lot of people. Didn't work for my son. The doc also tried Lunesta. No help. He hasn't tried Ambien but said he doesn't want to give it to my son. His insommnia is horrible. He is getting very depressed. He feels hopeless.He never knows when he will sleep. It seems the doc has given up on him. He told me to put my son in a facility here in Orlando. I checked into it to see if he could be there a short while until he gets the sleep cycle

back. The place was mostly

scitsophrenics (sorry, don't know how to spell it and spell check wasnt a big help tonight.) So, there was no way my son was going in there.My husband also suggested the same thing as the doctor. My husband said we can't do anything with our friends because my son is 24/7. My son has no one else. And he isn't 24/7. He can live on his own. He just needs help. We are supposed to go on a month long cruise in October and I'm already dreddng it. I was afraid to tell my husband no. It's not even a place I want to go to but our friends are going and that was enough for my husband. Back to the subject. Does anyone know if they would be able to help him if I took him to the ER? We spoke with his primary care doctor but he said that's the phsyciatrist's job. I am supposed to leave Orlando Tuesday of next week that also makes me

crazy.Thanks.Eileen To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that.

That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.

  Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

-- Re: I give up...... > > > >Does he meow too, cause my older daughter taught colton how to and he has been doing it ever since over and over and over > > >________________________________ > From: R.

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Don't feel guilt. I had to do that too with Chase. He was so unhappy in the morning. I remember being sad every morning. Most kids want to see you in the am...not Chase-he use to scream!Sent from my iPhone

Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that is where he is

happy. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that.

That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.

  Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

-- Re: I give up......>> >>>> >>My son showed signs of autism almost from birth. He would stare at bright lights, trees moving and anything that spun. He never turned to our voices like his twin sister did from a very early age. I told his Ped that he had autism during a 7/8week well care visit! Yes, things got worse before they got better. Before intensive therapy (25-30 hours each week!)>>>>He never moved so much so that he developed a flat back of his head. We had to move him to his side several times in the middle of the night but, he just kept flopping over to his back. Almost had to wear a

helmet.>>>>He couldn't sit up or do tummy time because he didn't have the strength to lift his head up...he would just scream bloody murder with his head smashed into the carpet.>>>>Anyway...my son would flip his hand over and suck on the outside of his pinky when he would get upset. He would also rub the back of his hand against his lips. Totally for sensory calming....>>>>Lori>>>>Please BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!>>https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism

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Yep that is how Colton is too. He's ok til I open the door then he immediately starts rocking and looks straight down and I put my hands out to grab him and refuses to even look at me. Sometime he will even crawl to the back of the crib (cause I'm only 5 foot) so that I can't reach him. So I just leave him there and he goes back to doing what ever he was doin. It's kinda creepy though because he sits in there and laughs like someone else is in the room with him. It's like a hard belly laugh and it's kinda eerie. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 2:08 PM Subject: Re: I give up......

Don't feel guilt. I had to do that too with Chase. He was so unhappy in the morning. I remember being sad every morning. Most kids want to see you in the am...not Chase-he use to scream!Sent from my iPhone

Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel

like a bad mom. But that is where he is

happy. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that.

That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.

  Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

-- Re: I give up......>> >>>> >>My son showed signs of autism almost from birth. He would stare at bright lights, trees moving and anything that spun.

He never turned to our voices like his twin sister did from a very early age. I told his Ped that he had autism during a 7/8week well care visit! Yes, things got worse before they got better. Before intensive therapy (25-30 hours each week!)>>>>He never moved so much so that he developed a flat back of his head. We had to move him to his side several times in the middle of the night but, he just kept flopping over to his back. Almost had to wear a

helmet.>>>>He couldn't sit up or do tummy time because he didn't have the strength to lift his head up...he would just scream bloody murder with his head smashed into the carpet.>>>>Anyway...my son would flip his hand over and suck on the outside of his pinky when he would get upset. He would also rub the back of his hand against his lips. Totally for sensory calming....>>>>Lori>>>>Please BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!>>https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism

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I will be doing that when we return to St. Louis.Thanks,Eileen To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012

1:54 PM Subject: Re: I give up......

Have you tried just taking him to a different Dr. for a second opinion? I think I would try that. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:59 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

I need some help before I lose my mind. My 26 yr. old son is having a lot of trouble sleeping.Meletonin never worked for him. He has taken Trazadone for years but it seems to have stopped working. The doc has tried a new med that has worked for a lot of people. Didn't work for my son. The doc also tried Lunesta. No help. He hasn't tried Ambien but said he doesn't want to give it to my son. His insommnia is horrible. He is getting very depressed. He feels hopeless.He never knows when he will sleep. It seems the doc has given up on him. He told me to put my son in a facility here in Orlando. I checked into it to see if he could be there a short while until he gets the sleep cycle

back. The place was mostly

scitsophrenics (sorry, don't know how to spell it and spell check wasnt a big help tonight.) So, there was no way my son was going in there.My husband also suggested the same thing as the doctor. My husband said we can't do anything with our friends because my son is 24/7. My son has no one else. And he isn't 24/7. He can live on his own. He just needs help. We are supposed to go on a month long cruise in October and I'm already dreddng it. I was afraid to tell my husband no. It's not even a place I want to go to but our friends are going and that was enough for my husband. Back to the subject. Does anyone know if they would be able to help him if I took him to the ER? We spoke with his primary care doctor but he said that's the phsyciatrist's job. I am supposed to leave Orlando Tuesday of next week that also makes me

crazy.Thanks.Eileen To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that.

That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.

  Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

-- Re: I give up...... > > > >Does he meow too, cause my older daughter taught colton how to and he has been doing it ever since over and over and over > > >________________________________ > From: R.

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Wow...brings back memories..Chase had long conversations with himself -babbling, humming, etc in his crib.He would scream at us if he didn't want to leave the safety of his crib. He was in his crib until he was 4 1/2. Only crawled out ( fell out actually) one time and that was when he was 3!Sent from my iPhone

Yep that is how Colton is too. He's ok til I open the door then he immediately starts rocking and looks straight down and I put my hands out to grab him and refuses to even look at me. Sometime he will even crawl to the back of the crib (cause I'm only 5 foot) so that I can't reach him. So I just leave him there and he goes back to doing what ever he was doin. It's kinda creepy though because he sits in there and laughs like someone else is in the room with him. It's like a hard belly laugh and it's kinda eerie. To: "autism-aspergers " <autism-aspergers > Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 2:08 PM Subject: Re: I give up......

Don't feel guilt. I had to do that too with Chase. He was so unhappy in the morning. I remember being sad every morning. Most kids want to see you in the am...not Chase-he use to scream!Sent from my iPhone

Well I don't leave him in there for a long time but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I always just walk out and leave him in there to play for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready to come out and some times he is and sometimes he isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't like putting him in there cause then I feel

like a bad mom. But that is where he is

happy. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM Subject: Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he could play quietly in. It would give him the enclosed feeling he needs and he could come and go as he wanted to. I'd get one that's not too big and not colorful (maybe a dark blue, not red). Put it in a room that you want him in. Little or no noise would be best at first. If you get one that you can connect to others via a tube, you would be able to add to it when he gets older. The problem might be the super bight colors. Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a large box. See if he will pay in that.

That would be more socially acceptable that keeping him in the bed. I completely understand and agree with you. He needs to be able to live his life outside of his crib but if he is happy in his bed then let him be in his crib...but it needs to be limited so he can grow. However, if you tell the drs that you keep him in his bed for extended periods, CPS might get involved. None of those people understand so it could be bad.

  Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you;

Jesus Christ and the American Soldier.

One died for your soul; the other for your freedom.

-- Re: I give up......>> >>>> >>My son showed signs of autism almost from birth. He would stare at bright lights, trees moving and anything that spun.

He never turned to our voices like his twin sister did from a very early age. I told his Ped that he had autism during a 7/8week well care visit! Yes, things got worse before they got better. Before intensive therapy (25-30 hours each week!)>>>>He never moved so much so that he developed a flat back of his head. We had to move him to his side several times in the middle of the night but, he just kept flopping over to his back. Almost had to wear a

helmet.>>>>He couldn't sit up or do tummy time because he didn't have the strength to lift his head up...he would just scream bloody murder with his head smashed into the carpet.>>>>Anyway...my son would flip his hand over and suck on the outside of his pinky when he would get upset. He would also rub the back of his hand against his lips. Totally for sensory calming....>>>>Lori>>>>Please BOYCOTT the movie 21 Jump Street! It makes fun of those with autism!>>https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism

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We all need somewhere to hide sometimes.  If he is happy, how can it

possibly make you a bad mother?

 

Well I don't leave him in there for a long time

but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in

there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I

always just walk out and leave him in there to play

for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready

to come out and some times he is and sometimes he

isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really

stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I

will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and

I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come

check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed

has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is

blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but

he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't

like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad

mom. But that is where he is happy.

From:

Muehleisen Family

To:

autism-aspergers

Sent:

Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM

Subject:

Re: I give up......

 

What about a small tent that he

could play quietly in. It would

give him the enclosed feeling he

needs and he could come and go as

he wanted to. I'd get one that's

not too big and not colorful

(maybe a dark blue, not red). Put

it in a room that you want him

in. Little or no noise would be

best at first. If you get one that

you can connect to others via a

tube, you would be able to add to

it when he gets older. The problem

might be the super bight colors.

Is is his crib colorful?

 

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

 

To begin with, maybe find a

large box. See if he will pay in

that.

 

That would be more socially

acceptable that keeping him in the

bed. I completely understand and

agree with you. He needs to be

able to live his life outside of

his crib but if he is happy in his

bed then let him be in his

crib...but it needs to be limited

so he can grow. However, if you

tell the drs that you keep him in

his bed for extended periods, CPS

might get involved. None of those

people understand so it could be

bad. 

 

 

 





Only

two defining forces have ever

offered to die for you;

Jesus

Christ and the American

Soldier.

One

died for your soul; the other

for your freedom.

-------Original

Message-------

 

From: Lori

Yurtin

Date:

5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM

To: autism-aspergers

Subject:

Re: I give

up......

 

 

Poor Colton.  The world is

just too much for him.  Sensory

overload.  That is why he is

happy in his crib all alone.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM,

sara degeer

wrote:

 

Wow, Well Colton has

been getting worse with

the head banging. Just

in 3 weeks he's had 2

black eyes and the giant

knot on his forehead.

I'm so worried about him

getting seriously

injured because I know

he's not. I really worry

about his face and his

teeth. His teeth are so

perfect. Colton doesn't

chew his tongue but he

sucks on it. I

personally because of my

anxiety I chew the

inside of my mouth to

the point that it

bleeds. I hate when I

get like that. Since

this past weekend Colton

has been absolutely

awful. He has been in

bed for almost 2 days

because every time I let

him out he is so violent

and just walks around

screaming and crying.

But when he's in his

crib all alone he's all

smiles. But he's happy,

I don't know what to do.

From:

"sandradaniels2001@..."

To:

autism-aspergers

Sent:

Monday, April 30,

2012 8:44 AM

Subject:

Re:

I give up......

 

My daughter

who is now 13

, does the

hand rubbing ,

when she gets

stressed ,

almost to the

point of

rubbing her

hands until

the skin

started to

peel on her

hands , at one

point she

began to chew

the side of

her tongue

also. I have

also had to

deal with head

banging ,not

from her but

my 6 year old

grandson is

autistic also

, and at one

point he was

so bad we were

thinking of

getting him a

helmet to keep

him from

injuring

himself.

 Thank

goodness for

our

pediatrician

he really

helped my

family .

Things are

getting better

its all about

good days and

bad ones . We

just roll with

the punches

and start over

the next day

Sent from my

HTC smartphone

on the Now

Network from

Sprint!

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-----

From: "Ashton"

To: <autism-aspergers >

Subject:

I give

up......

Date: Sun, Apr

29, 2012 11:48

pm

 

My 7 yo

meows and

walks on all

fours. He does

it in response

to stress.

He'll do it

for a week or

so then stop.

He is also

obsessed with

all things

cat. He brings

home book

after book on

cats and talks

about them

incessently.

When our

female passed,

had panic

attacks off

and on for a

week. He

brings her up

alot and says

she's with

Jesus and our

dog.

Ashton

sara

degeer

wrote:

>

>

>Well now

this meowing

thing is

getting out of

control. He

does it

constantly.

Even in public

really loud

and hes not

saying the

word meow he

is more like

making the

noise and

people just

stare at us

like wth is

wrong with

your kid? Not

to mention its

just gettin

kinda

annoying. And

now im scared

to teach him

any other

animal sounds.

God forbid he

learn how to

"moo". Lol

>

>

>------------------------------

>On Sat,

Apr 28, 2012

9:45 AM EDT

R.

Tucker wrote:

>

>>No, ha

ha, no

meowing! 

Thank

goodness!

>>

>> 

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>________________________________

>> From:

sara degeer

>>To: "autism-aspergers "

<autism-aspergers >

>>Sent:

Friday, April

27, 2012 3:22

PM

>>Subject:

Re:

I give

up......

>>

>>

>> 

>>Does

he meow too,

cause my older

daughter

taught colton

how to and he

has been doing

it ever since

over and over

and over

>>

>>

>>________________________________

>> From:

R.

Tucker

>>To: "autism-aspergers "

<autism-aspergers >

>>Sent:

Thursday,

April 26, 2012

7:06 PM

>>Subject:

Re:

I give

up......

>>

>>

>> 

>>OMG!!! 

My son licks

the back of

his hand!!  We

call him kitty

cat!  What

makes someone

do this?????? 

I gotta hear

why!!

>>

>> 

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>________________________________

>> From:

sara degeer

>>To: "autism-aspergers "

<autism-aspergers >

>>Sent:

Thursday,

April 26, 2012

3:49 PM

>>Subject:

Re:

I give

up......

>>

>>

>> 

>> YOU

WROTE:  He

would also rub

the back of

his hand

against his

lips 

>>

>>That

is what colton

does. And

sometimes will

have his

tongue

sticking out

so that he's

licking the

back of his

hand.

>>

>>

>>________________________________

>> From:

Lori Yurtin

>>To: autism-aspergers

>>Sent:

Thursday,

April 26, 2012

3:18 PM

>>Subject:

Re:

I give

up......

>>

>>

>> 

>>My son

showed signs

of autism

almost from

birth.  He

would stare at

bright lights,

trees moving

and anything

that spun.  He

never turned

to our voices

like his twin

sister did

from a very

early age.  I

told his Ped

that he had

autism during

a 7/8week well

care visit!

 Yes, things

got worse

before they

got better.

 Before

intensive

therapy (25-30

hours each

week!)

>>

>>He

never moved so

much so that

he developed a

flat back of

his head.  We

had to move

him to his

side several

times in the

middle of the

night but, he

just kept

flopping over

to his back.

 Almost had to

wear a helmet.

>>

>>He

couldn't sit

up or do tummy

time because

he didn't have

the strength

to lift his

head up...he

would just

scream bloody

murder with

his head

smashed into

the carpet.

>>

>>Anyway...my

son would flip

his hand over

and suck on

the outside of

his pinky when

he would get

upset.  He

would also rub

the back of

his hand

against his

lips.  Totally

for sensory

calming....

>>

>>Lori

>>

>>Please

BOYCOTT the

movie 21 Jump

Street!  It

makes fun of

those with

autism!

>>https://www.facebook.com/BoycottMovie21JumpStreetForAutism

>>

>>--- On

Thu, 4/26/12,

sara degeer

wrote:

>>

>>

>>>From:

sara degeer

>>>Subject:

Re:

I give

up......

>>>To:

"autism-aspergers "

<autism-aspergers >

>>>Date:

Thursday,

April 26,

2012, 12:07 PM

>>>

>>>

>>> 

>>>Wow,

thats crazy I

think if

Colton ever

told me He

hated me, I

think a piece

of me would

just die. I

love all of my

kids the same

I would do

anything in

the world for

anyone one of

them but

Colton just

has a really

special place

in my heart.

And his anger

hurts me the

most. I never

really  paid

much attention

to the nose

rubbing thing

I knew he did

it a lot. Even

when he just

gets excited

he rubs his

nose. Even if

he doesn't

have snot. And

everyone keeps

asking me if

he ways his

hands in front

of his face

but he didn't

use to but

have been

noticing that

when he is

holding his

brush he waves

that like on

the side of

his face. and

now he has

started taking

the back of

his hand and

rubbing it

back and forth

really fast

against his

lips. but he

usually only

does that when

he is mad and

crying. I feel

like everyday

he starts

something new.

I used to

think he was

just mildly

autistic if at

all. but now i

feel like it

may be getting

much worse.

Because

>>

everything i

have read and

from what

people tell me

is usually

kids dont

start showing

signs til

about right

now where as

he has had

them almost

his whole

life, and are

just getting

worse. :(

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>________________________________

>>>

From: Ashton S

>>>To:

autism-aspergers

>>>Sent:

Wednesday,

April 25, 2012

6:10 PM

>>>Subject:

Re:

I give

up......

>>>

>>>

>>> 

>>>Hi

Sara,

>>>

>>>You

ARE seeing

what you think

you are seeing

in  your son. 

I watched your

vodeos of him

and it's like

looking at me

and my

youngest.  His

nerves are in

overdrive and

he's

responding to

that by

melting down. 

If you notice,

he rubs his

nose a lot,

not just

because it's

running from

crying but

because it is

tingling.  The

stimming he

does is his

way of trying

to calm down

the sensations

his little

body is going

through,

neurologically

and anxiety. 

>>>

>>>I

see him

lashing out

then he'll hug

you.  He is

trying to tell

you what is

going on

inside him and

that he is

sorry. I've

lived this my

entire life

inside, it's

like a war

inside, and

you cannot

stop it, so

you just want

to scream. 

I'm 44 years

old and I

still have

these same

issues, and

have learned

to be by

myself when I

feel out of

control.  My

son melted

down like

this, and at

7, still does,

but not as

often.  Now it

comes out in

defiance

against his

brother and

me.

>>>

>>>My

son wears a

compression

suit from the

time he wakes

up, until

bedtime.  His

school and

occupational

therapist said

that they

notice a big

difference in

him since he

got his SPIO

suit.  I

notice that

he's able to

calm himself

more now than

prior.  I

would love to

have an adult

sized SPIO

suit myself,

but I don't

have the money

or the

insurance to

get one. 

>>>

>>>My

youngest's

meltdowns were

violent toward

me and my son,

they still

are, but now

his is more

able to talk

instead of

hit/punch/shove

first.  I

think the

difference was

when he gained

his ability

speak better. 

He still

struggles but

he can tell me

better what

has upset

him.  Until

that happened,

it was so bad,

we had to

remove all

knives from

the kitchen

because he

would go get

one and either

throw it at me

or my oldest,

or threaten to

stab us "I

stab you." He

hasn't done

that in a long

time.  He

mostly tells

me he hates me

when he's mad,

and I remind

him, "No, you

don't hate me,

you are mad at

me."

>>>

>>>Please

don't let this

therapist stop

you from

pursuing what

Colton needs

most,

intervention

and help as

early as

possible. Keep

seeking until

someone will

listen.  I had

friends tell

me nothing was

wrong with my

sons or me,

that, Ethan

was just

acting out for

attention.  I

finally got

him evaluated

and now he is

in IEP and

Speech/Occu

therapy.  They

are helping so

much,

especially

with the

behavioral and

eating issues

>>>

>>>Ashton

(Aspie Mom

with 2

Autistic sons)

>>>

>>>

>>>On

Tue, Apr 24,

2012 at 10:48

AM, sara

degeer

wrote:

>>>

>>>

>>> 

>>>So

for the last 7

weeks that

Coltons

therapist has

been coming to

see him he has

only showed up

3 times. He is

suppose to

come once a

week for an

hour. When he

cancels he

texts me

minutes away

from the appt.

time. Which I

find

ridiculous. So

I called

yesterday to

have Early

Steps try and

get me a

different

Therapist. And

to have Colton

tested for

ASD. And to

get him into a

Gifted school.

They accept

children that

have anything

from

developmental

delays to

Severe

Retardation.

And you can

start at 18

months old.

Everything

went good til

today. When

The old

Therapist

comes to my

house and is

like well can

you tell me

why I'm not on

your case

anymore? And I

calmly

explained to

him that I

need someone

more reliable.

He mentioned

that I should

not seek a dx

and that I

should wait a

few years if I

am told to do

so. And then

he goes on to

talk about how

everyone at

the office is

"talking"

about "certain

parents" that

only want

their child dx

so they can

>>

receive

government

benefits. And

said that they

don't say

names cause

they aren't

allowed to but

didn't think

any of it was

about me. I in

no way shape

or form want

anything from

the government

only the right

kind of care

for my child.

I am extremely

hurt by what

he said. And

Think that you

know maybe

there isn't

anything wrong

with him.

Maybe he's

just weird and

quirky. I

can't stop

thinking about

it. I don't

know what to

do. I am

really

starting to

question if

there is

anything wrong

at all. :-/

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>P.S.

This is my Son

Colton http://www.youtube.com/user/bradleysmommy1?feature=mhee

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

 

Well now this

meowing thing

is getting out

of control. He

does it

constantly.

Even in public

really loud

and hes not

saying the

word meow he

is more like

making the

noise and

people just

stare at us

like wth is

wrong with

your kid? Not

to mention its

just gettin

kinda

annoying. And

now im scared

to teach him

any other

animal sounds.

God forbid he

learn how to

"moo". Lol

------------------------------

On Sat, Apr

28, 2012 9:45

AM EDT

R. Tucker

wrote:

>No, ha ha,

no meowing! 

Thank

goodness!

>

> 

>

>

>

>

>________________________________

> From:

sara degeer

>To: "autism-aspergers "

<autism-aspergers >

>Sent:

Friday, April

27, 2012 3:22

PM

>Subject:

Re:

I give

up......

>

>

> 

>Does he

meow too,

cause my older

daughter

taught colton

how to and he

has been doing

it ever since

over and over

and over

>

>

>________________________________

> From:

R.

Tucker <

 

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Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone

We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it

possibly make you a bad mother?

Well I don't leave him in there for a long time

but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in

there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I

always just walk out and leave him in there to play

for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready

to come out and some times he is and sometimes he

isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really

stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I

will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and

I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come

check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed

has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is

blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but

he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't

like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad

mom. But that is where he is happy.

From:

Muehleisen Family

To:

autism-aspergers

Sent:

Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM

Subject:

Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he

could play quietly in. It would

give him the enclosed feeling he

needs and he could come and go as

he wanted to. I'd get one that's

not too big and not colorful

(maybe a dark blue, not red). Put

it in a room that you want him

in. Little or no noise would be

best at first. If you get one that

you can connect to others via a

tube, you would be able to add to

it when he gets older. The problem

might be the super bight colors.

Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a

large box. See if he will pay in

that.

That would be more socially

acceptable that keeping him in the

bed. I completely understand and

agree with you. He needs to be

able to live his life outside of

his crib but if he is happy in his

bed then let him be in his

crib...but it needs to be limited

so he can grow. However, if you

tell the drs that you keep him in

his bed for extended periods, CPS

might get involved. None of those

people understand so it could be

bad.





Only

two defining forces have ever

offered to die for you;

Jesus

Christ and the American

Soldier.

One

died for your soul; the other

for your freedom.

-------Original

Message-------

From: Lori

Yurtin

Date:

5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM

To: autism-aspergers

Subject:

Re: I give

up......

Poor Colton. The world is

just too much for him. Sensory

overload. That is why he is

happy in his crib all alone.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM,

sara degeer

wrote:

Wow, Well Colton has

been getting worse with

the head banging. Just

in 3 weeks he's had 2

black eyes and the giant

knot on his forehead.

I'm so worried about him

getting seriously

injured because I know

he's not. I really worry

about his face and his

teeth. His teeth are so

perfect. Colton doesn't

chew his tongue but he

sucks on it. I

personally because of my

anxiety I chew the

inside of my mouth to

the point that it

bleeds. I hate when I

get like that. Since

this past weekend Colton

has been absolutely

awful. He has been in

bed for almost 2 days

because every time I let

him out he is so violent

and just walks around

screaming and crying.

But when he's in his

crib all alone he's all

smiles. But he's happy,

I don't know what to do.

From:

"sandradaniels2001@..."

To:

autism-aspergers

Sent:

Monday, April 30,

2012 8:44 AM

Subject:

Re:

I give up......

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A bad mother wouldn't worry as much as you do. And, you need the break too! If you worry about spending time with him, maybe after things have calmed down, you could hang out in his room for part of the time he is in there. Just being in the same room might feel good? I think it is just like our older children chilling out in their rooms, my 9 year old loves to be in his room completely under the covers. I let him spend the time he needs like that. Like said, if he is happy and safe then you are doing things right. Be easy on yourself.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: autism-aspergers Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:09:54 -0700To: autism-aspergers <autism-aspergers >ReplyTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can itpossibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long timebut like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go inthere to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So Ialways just walk out and leave him in there to playfor about an hour and come back to see if he's readyto come out and some times he is and sometimes heisn't. And periodically during the day if he is reallystimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns Iwill put him in there and he immediately is happy. andI'll leave him in there for about an hour and comecheck on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bedhas absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which isblue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, buthe seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don'tlike putting him in there cause then I feel like a badmom. But that is where he is happy. From:Muehleisen Family To:autism-aspergers Sent:Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AMSubject:Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that hecould play quietly in. It wouldgive him the enclosed feeling heneeds and he could come and go ashe wanted to. I'd get one that'snot too big and not colorful(maybe a dark blue, not red). Putit in a room that you want himin. Little or no noise would bebest at first. If you get one thatyou can connect to others via atube, you would be able to add toit when he gets older. The problemmight be the super bight colors.Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find alarge box. See if he will pay inthat. That would be more sociallyacceptable that keeping him in thebed. I completely understand andagree with you. He needs to beable to live his life outside ofhis crib but if he is happy in hisbed then let him be in hiscrib...but it needs to be limitedso he can grow. However, if youtell the drs that you keep him inhis bed for extended periods, CPSmight get involved. None of thosepeople understand so it could bebad. Onlytwo defining forces have everoffered to die for you;JesusChrist and the AmericanSoldier.Onedied for your soul; the otherfor your freedom.-------OriginalMessage------- From: LoriYurtinDate:5/1/2012 12:25:39 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject:Re: I giveup...... Poor Colton. The world isjust too much for him. Sensoryoverload. That is why he ishappy in his crib all alone.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM,sara degeer wrote: Wow, Well Colton hasbeen getting worse withthe head banging. 3 weeks he's had 2black eyes and the giantknot on his forehead.I'm so worried about himgetting seriouslyinjured because I knowhe's not. I really worryabout his face and histeeth. His teeth are soperfect. Colton doesn'tchew his tongue but hesucks on it. Ipersonally because of myanxiety I chew theinside of my mouth tothe point that itbleeds. I hate when Iget like that. Sincethis past weekend Coltonhas been absolutelyawful. He has been inbed for almost 2 daysbecause every time I lethim out he is so violentand just walks aroundscreaming and crying.But when he's in hiscrib all alone he's allsmiles. But he's happy,I don't know what to do.From:"sandradaniels2001@..."To:autism-aspergers Sent:Monday, April 30,2012 8:44 AMSubject:Re: I give up......

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Sometimes we just have to not listen to the thoughts in our heads. 

I have two kids with AS.  When they are going through a bad time, I

don't just feel bad for them, I feel responsible as they inherited

it from me.  Getting depressed about it does no good for them or

me.  We just have to deal with life as it is and make the best of

it.  If we go blaming ourselves for things we can't change, we just

make things worse.  We can't always stop our thoughts, but we can

choose to focus on doing what we can to make things work better. 

Life gets bad at times, but there are also good times as well. 

Perspective is important.  If our kids are safe and happy, then

things are much better than they could have been.

 

A bad mother wouldn't worry as much as you do. And, you

need the break too! If you worry about spending time with

him, maybe after things have calmed down, you could hang

out in his room for part of the time he is in there. Just

being in the same room might feel good? I think it is just

like our older children chilling out in their rooms, my 9

year old loves to be in his room completely under the

covers. I let him spend the time he needs like that. Like

said, if he is happy and safe then you are doing

things right. Be easy on yourself.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Sender: autism-aspergers

Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:09:54 -0700

To: autism-aspergers <autism-aspergers >

ReplyTo: autism-aspergers

Subject: Re: I give up......

 

Agreed!  ;)

Sent from my iPhone

On May 3, 2012, at 4:03 PM, Riley

wrote:

 

We all need somewhere to hide sometimes.  If he

is happy, how can it possibly make you a bad

mother?

 

Well I don't leave him in there for

a long time but like in the mornings when

he wakes up if you go in there to get him

he wants nothin to do with you. So I

always just walk out and leave him in

there to play for about an hour and come

back to see if he's ready to come out and

some times he is and sometimes he isn't.

And periodically during the day if he is

really stimming way to much or having a

lot of meltdowns I will put him in there

and he immediately is happy. and I'll

leave him in there for about an hour and

come check on him to see if he's ready to

come out. His bed has absolutely nothing

in it except a sheet. Which is blue. For

the most part he is outside of his crib,

but he seems to be so much happier in his

crib but I don't like putting him in there

cause then I feel like a bad mom. But that

is where he is happy.

From:

Muehleisen Family

To:

autism-aspergers

Sent:

Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM

Subject:

Re: I give up......

 

What about a small

tent that he could

play quietly in. It

would give him the

enclosed feeling he

needs and he could

come and go as he

wanted to. I'd get one

that's not too big and

not colorful (maybe a

dark blue, not red).

Put it in a room that

you want him

in. Little or no noise

would be best at

first. If you get one

that you can connect

to others via a tube,

you would be able to

add to it when he gets

older. The problem

might be the super

bight colors. Is

is his crib colorful?

 

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

 

To begin with,

maybe find a large

box. See if he will

pay in that.

 

That would be more

socially acceptable

that keeping him in

the bed. I completely

understand and agree

with you. He needs to

be able to live his

life outside of his

crib but if he is

happy in his bed then

let him be in his

crib...but it needs to

be limited so he can

grow. However, if you

tell the drs that you

keep him in his bed

for extended

periods, CPS might get

involved. None of

those people

understand so it could

be bad. 

 

 

 





Only two

defining forces

have ever offered

to die for you;

Jesus

Christ and the

American Soldier.

One died

for your soul; the

other for your

freedom.

-------Original

Message-------

 

From:

Lori

Yurtin

Date:

5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM

To:

autism-aspergers

Subject:

Re:

I

give up......

 

 

Poor Colton.  The

world is just too

much for him.

 Sensory overload.

 That is why he is

happy in his crib

all alone.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2012, at

12:14 PM, sara

degeer

wrote:

 

Wow, Well

Colton has

been getting

worse with the

head banging.

Just in 3

weeks he's had

2 black eyes

and the giant

knot on his

forehead. I'm

so worried

about him

getting

seriously

injured

because I know

he's not. I

really worry

about his face

and his teeth.

His teeth are

so perfect.

Colton doesn't

chew his

tongue but he

sucks on it. I

personally

because of my

anxiety I chew

the inside of

my mouth to

the point that

it bleeds. I

hate when I

get like that.

Since this

past weekend

Colton has

been

absolutely

awful. He has

been in bed

for almost 2

days because

every time I

let him out he

is so violent

and just walks

around

screaming and

crying. But

when he's in

his crib all

alone he's all

smiles. But

he's happy, I

don't know

what to do.

From:

"sandradaniels2001@..."

To:

autism-aspergers

Sent:

Monday, April

30, 2012 8:44

AM

Subject:

Re:

I give

up......

 

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Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs.I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe!If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids.My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into "pushing"Him- giving in against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feelBetter- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family!Sent from my iPhone

Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone

We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it

possibly make you a bad mother?

Well I don't leave him in there for a long time

but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in

there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I

always just walk out and leave him in there to play

for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready

to come out and some times he is and sometimes he

isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really

stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I

will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and

I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come

check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed

has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is

blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but

he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't

like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad

mom. But that is where he is happy.

From:

Muehleisen Family

To:

autism-aspergers

Sent:

Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM

Subject:

Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he

could play quietly in. It would

give him the enclosed feeling he

needs and he could come and go as

he wanted to. I'd get one that's

not too big and not colorful

(maybe a dark blue, not red). Put

it in a room that you want him

in. Little or no noise would be

best at first. If you get one that

you can connect to others via a

tube, you would be able to add to

it when he gets older. The problem

might be the super bight colors.

Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a

large box. See if he will pay in

that.

That would be more socially

acceptable that keeping him in the

bed. I completely understand and

agree with you. He needs to be

able to live his life outside of

his crib but if he is happy in his

bed then let him be in his

crib...but it needs to be limited

so he can grow. However, if you

tell the drs that you keep him in

his bed for extended periods, CPS

might get involved. None of those

people understand so it could be

bad.





Only

two defining forces have ever

offered to die for you;

Jesus

Christ and the American

Soldier.

One

died for your soul; the other

for your freedom.

-------Original

Message-------

From: Lori

Yurtin

Date:

5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM

To: autism-aspergers

Subject:

Re: I give

up......

Poor Colton. The world is

just too much for him. Sensory

overload. That is why he is

happy in his crib all alone.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM,

sara degeer

wrote:

Wow, Well Colton has

been getting worse with

the head banging. Just

in 3 weeks he's had 2

black eyes and the giant

knot on his forehead.

I'm so worried about him

getting seriously

injured because I know

he's not. I really worry

about his face and his

teeth. His teeth are so

perfect. Colton doesn't

chew his tongue but he

sucks on it. I

personally because of my

anxiety I chew the

inside of my mouth to

the point that it

bleeds. I hate when I

get like that. Since

this past weekend Colton

has been absolutely

awful. He has been in

bed for almost 2 days

because every time I let

him out he is so violent

and just walks around

screaming and crying.

But when he's in his

crib all alone he's all

smiles. But he's happy,

I don't know what to do.

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"sandradaniels2001@..."

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you might give the melatonin another try our doc says to take 1mg about 5pm and then to take a larger pill about an hour before bed the extra one early triggers the body like natural light does

does he get exercise? some vigorous exercise mid afternoon might help also turn off all things that have little lights or cover the lights plays with your brain no TV or computer about an hour before bed helps also

good luck no sleep sucks

and make arrangements for someone to check on your son go on the trip have a good time and recharge your energy and your relationship with hubby both are important

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Agreed! What calms a child and a parent- do it! We are all good parents, that is why this is so hard. If we were bad parents we wouldn't care.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerrySender: autism-aspergers Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 19:51:24 -0400To: autism-aspergers <autism-aspergers >ReplyTo: autism-aspergers Subject: Re: I give up...... Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs.I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe!If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids.My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into "pushing"Him- giving in against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feelBetter- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family!Sent from my iPhone Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can itpossibly make you a bad mother? Well I don't leave him in there for a long timebut like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go inthere to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So Ialways just walk out and leave him in there to playfor about an hour and come back to see if he's readyto come out and some times he is and sometimes heisn't. And periodically during the day if he is reallystimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns Iwill put him in there and he immediately is happy. andI'll leave him in there for about an hour and comecheck on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bedhas absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which isblue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, buthe seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don'tlike putting him in there cause then I feel like a badmom. But that is where he is happy. From:Muehleisen Family To:autism-aspergers Sent:Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AMSubject:Re: I give up...... What about a small tent that hecould play quietly in. It wouldgive him the enclosed feeling heneeds and he could come and go ashe wanted to. I'd get one that'snot too big and not colorful(maybe a dark blue, not red). Putit in a room that you want himin. Little or no noise would bebest at first. If you get one thatyou can connect to others via atube, you would be able to add toit when he gets older. The problemmight be the super bight colors.Is is his crib colorful? http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3 To begin with, maybe find alarge box. See if he will pay inthat. That would be more sociallyacceptable that keeping him in thebed. I completely understand andagree with you. He needs to beable to live his life outside ofhis crib but if he is happy in hisbed then let him be in hiscrib...but it needs to be limitedso he can grow. However, if youtell the drs that you keep him inhis bed for extended periods, CPSmight get involved. None of thosepeople understand so it could bebad. Onlytwo defining forces have everoffered to die for you;JesusChrist and the AmericanSoldier.Onedied for your soul; the otherfor your freedom.-------OriginalMessage------- From: LoriYurtinDate:5/1/2012 12:25:39 PMTo: autism-aspergers Subject:Re: I giveup...... Poor Colton. The world isjust too much for him. Sensoryoverload. That is why he ishappy in his crib all alone.Sent from my iPhoneOn May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM,sara degeer wrote: Wow, Well Colton hasbeen getting worse withthe head banging. 3 weeks he's had 2black eyes and the giantknot on his forehead.I'm so worried about himgetting seriouslyinjured because I knowhe's not. I really worryabout his face and histeeth. His teeth are soperfect. Colton doesn'tchew his tongue but hesucks on it. Ipersonally because of myanxiety I chew theinside of my mouth tothe point that itbleeds. I hate when Iget like that. Sincethis past weekend Coltonhas been absolutelyawful. He has been inbed for almost 2 daysbecause every time I lethim out he is so violentand just walks aroundscreaming and crying.But when he's in hiscrib all alone he's allsmiles. But he's happy,I don't know what to do.From:"sandradaniels2001@..."<

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My son told me when he was about 16 that he was afraid of the trash truck when he was little. He didn't show it. When we went to Florida when he was about 5, he wanted one of those alligator heads that all the trinket shops carried. We bought one. He also told me not too long ago it scared him at night. He never showed any fear or talked about it when he was little. Maybe he couldn't. I don't know. To: autism-aspergers Sent: Thursday, May 3, 2012 9:54 PM Subject: Re: I give up......

Agreed! What calms a child and a parent- do it! We are all good parents, that is why this is so hard. If we were bad parents we wouldn't care.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

Sender: autism-aspergers

Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 19:51:24 -0400To: autism-aspergers <autism-aspergers >ReplyTo: autism-aspergers

Subject: Re: I give up......

Listen- if it keeps him safe- do what works- and listen to your heart and what he needs.I worked for our cps- Dcf- Connecticut- I don't know where you live but no social worker in their right mind would remove a kid for a mother keeping him safe! There's no law here against keeping a young child in a crib too long- he's fed? Changed? Omg don't worry about cps- even the crappy ones don't want your child! There's no where to put them! I say that but honestly- unless he's sitting in poop for two days or not fed- keep your son safe!If he were my child- and I'm not telling you to walk down my path- id keep him there- but contact a sensory based OT to help you find out what is triggering him! He could hear a noise like your frige running that is so much louder to these kids.My son is 11. Through the years I've let others talk me into "pushing"Him- giving in

against my better judgement is the only regret I have in my raising him. Now? I listen to his needs- whether it's for space or quiet or down time- and I feelBetter- he feels better and life is happier for my entire family!Sent from my iPhone

Agreed! ;)Sent from my iPhone

We all need somewhere to hide sometimes. If he is happy, how can it

possibly make you a bad mother?

Well I don't leave him in there for a long time

but like in the mornings when he wakes up if you go in

there to get him he wants nothin to do with you. So I

always just walk out and leave him in there to play

for about an hour and come back to see if he's ready

to come out and some times he is and sometimes he

isn't. And periodically during the day if he is really

stimming way to much or having a lot of meltdowns I

will put him in there and he immediately is happy. and

I'll leave him in there for about an hour and come

check on him to see if he's ready to come out. His bed

has absolutely nothing in it except a sheet. Which is

blue. For the most part he is outside of his crib, but

he seems to be so much happier in his crib but I don't

like putting him in there cause then I feel like a bad

mom. But that is where he is happy.

From:

Muehleisen Family

To:

autism-aspergers

Sent:

Thursday, May 3, 2012 12:03 AM

Subject:

Re: I give up......

What about a small tent that he

could play quietly in. It would

give him the enclosed feeling he

needs and he could come and go as

he wanted to. I'd get one that's

not too big and not colorful

(maybe a dark blue, not red). Put

it in a room that you want him

in. Little or no noise would be

best at first. If you get one that

you can connect to others via a

tube, you would be able to add to

it when he gets older. The problem

might be the super bight colors.

Is is his crib colorful?

http://www.amazon.com/Pacific-Play-Tents-Safari-Tunnel/dp/B00083DD4O/ref=sr_1_3?s=toys-and-games & ie=UTF8 & qid=1336017388 & sr=1-3

To begin with, maybe find a

large box. See if he will pay in

that.

That would be more socially

acceptable that keeping him in the

bed. I completely understand and

agree with you. He needs to be

able to live his life outside of

his crib but if he is happy in his

bed then let him be in his

crib...but it needs to be limited

so he can grow. However, if you

tell the drs that you keep him in

his bed for extended periods, CPS

might get involved. None of those

people understand so it could be

bad.





Only

two defining forces have ever

offered to die for you;

Jesus

Christ and the American

Soldier.

One

died for your soul; the other

for your freedom.

-------Original

Message-------

From: Lori

Yurtin

Date:

5/1/2012 12:25:39 PM

To: autism-aspergers

Subject:

Re: I give

up......

Poor Colton. The world is

just too much for him. Sensory

overload. That is why he is

happy in his crib all alone.

Sent from my iPhone

On May 1, 2012, at 12:14 PM,

sara degeer

wrote:

Wow, Well Colton has

been getting worse with

the head banging. Just

in 3 weeks he's had 2

black eyes and the giant

knot on his forehead.

I'm so worried about him

getting seriously

injured because I know

he's not. I really worry

about his face and his

teeth. His teeth are so

perfect. Colton doesn't

chew his tongue but he

sucks on it. I

personally because of my

anxiety I chew the

inside of my mouth to

the point that it

bleeds. I hate when I

get like that. Since

this past weekend Colton

has been absolutely

awful. He has been in

bed for almost 2 days

because every time I let

him out he is so violent

and just walks around

screaming and crying.

But when he's in his

crib all alone he's all

smiles. But he's happy,

I don't know what to do.

From:

"sandradaniels2001@..."

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