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I can unfortunately speak from personal experience. I had shingles 8 years ago

when I moved from a place I had lived in for almost 15 years. I was looking

forward to having a home of my own - but there was a lot of physical and

psychological stress- I thought they were originally bee stings. Prompt

treatment can make things much better - along with rest.

Hugs,

>

> Physical and/or psychological stress can precipitate a case of shingles. So I

> imagine an immune-suppressed person in a flare would be a likely victim,

> unfortunately..Cary

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Dear Steph,

I have get shingles and they are no fun, to say the least. That is when I

learned about a Duragesic Patch, because the pain was so bad. I had a ring of

sores in a line on the top of my bra line, under my arm and then down my

back. Dr. said it was pretty severe, He has advised me stay away from Chicken

Pox. I think the most important things is to remember that we still catch

things more easily than others. Please take care of yourself.

Gentle Hugs & Prayers,

Carol M. in CA

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Dear Steph,

I have get shingles and they are no fun, to say the least. That is when I

learned about a Duragesic Patch, because the pain was so bad. I had a ring of

sores in a line on the top of my bra line, under my arm and then down my

back. Dr. said it was pretty severe, He has advised me stay away from Chicken

Pox. I think the most important things is to remember that we still catch

things more easily than others. Please take care of yourself.

Gentle Hugs & Prayers,

Carol M. in CA

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You can get shingles only if you've had chicken pox. The chicken pox

virus hangs around for years and then pops up as shingles.

I believe that if you haven't had chicken pox, you can get it from

someone who has shingles. Do you think maybe that's what your rheumy

meant?

I've had shingles, and it certainly wasn't any fun, but my PCP treated

it aggressively, and I had very little pain from it.

Sue

On Tuesday, July 26, 2005, at 05:37 PM, DeNicola wrote:

> Hello all,

> This is Steph in VA. My fiancee's dad has

> shingles. I've read about it and it is bad for people

> in our position. I talked to my rheumy today and he

> said I should avoid contact until the pox scab over,

> which should be about a week or 2. After that, I can

> have contact but probably shouldn't be too close for

> several weeks after, until all the visible symptoms go

> away. Has anyone had this experience? My health has

> been fairly stable so I certainly don't want to get

> it.

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You can get shingles only if you've had chicken pox. The chicken pox

virus hangs around for years and then pops up as shingles.

I believe that if you haven't had chicken pox, you can get it from

someone who has shingles. Do you think maybe that's what your rheumy

meant?

I've had shingles, and it certainly wasn't any fun, but my PCP treated

it aggressively, and I had very little pain from it.

Sue

On Tuesday, July 26, 2005, at 05:37 PM, DeNicola wrote:

> Hello all,

> This is Steph in VA. My fiancee's dad has

> shingles. I've read about it and it is bad for people

> in our position. I talked to my rheumy today and he

> said I should avoid contact until the pox scab over,

> which should be about a week or 2. After that, I can

> have contact but probably shouldn't be too close for

> several weeks after, until all the visible symptoms go

> away. Has anyone had this experience? My health has

> been fairly stable so I certainly don't want to get

> it.

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Hi ,

I’m sorry you’re so miserable, it sounds awful. I have no experience with shingles personally, other than my husband’s case a few years ago, but it makes perfect sense to me that you are having a flare because shingles can be brought on by stress. There are herbal products that can help shorten the duration. Since it’s been so long since my husband had it, I can’t recall the name but it did help him tremendously — and it has never come back.

I hope you start feeling better really soon!!

Kenda

Hello. I haven't been on the group for a while due to a very busy and

stressful life since explant. But I needed to check in today to ask

this question... Has anyone contracted shingles as they detox? I just

broke out with a horrendously painful case of shingles in my private

regions. I have 3 patches of it from my labia to my buttock. I've

never experienced anything so painful! This is so much worse than any

surgery I've had. I actually was reduced to tears from this pain, me,

the one who has never taken a pain killer of any kind post-op. I'm

unbearably uncomfortable and the doctor told me I would likely be this

way for 2 more weeks. I could really use some advice if anyone else

has been through this. I can barely function. : (

Thanks,

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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There is also a prescription medication that can help with this. I do not

recall what it is

now, but my doctor prescribed it for me. IT helped tremendously.

I had shingles when I was going through so much stress about explanting...It was

just

horrible. Ask your doctor about this. I will see if I can find what it was...

> Hi ,

>

> I¹m sorry you¹re so miserable, it sounds awful. I have no experience with

> shingles personally, other than my husband¹s case a few years ago, but it

> makes perfect sense to me that you are having a flare because shingles can

> be brought on by stress. There are herbal products that can help shorten

> the duration. Since it¹s been so long since my husband had it, I can¹t

> recall the name but it did help him tremendously ‹ and it has never come

> back.

>

> I hope you start feeling better really soon!!

>

> Kenda

>

>

> > Hello. I haven't been on the group for a while due to a very busy and

> > stressful life since explant. But I needed to check in today to ask

> > this question... Has anyone contracted shingles as they detox? I just

> > broke out with a horrendously painful case of shingles in my private

> > regions. I have 3 patches of it from my labia to my buttock. I've

> > never experienced anything so painful! This is so much worse than any

> > surgery I've had. I actually was reduced to tears from this pain, me,

> > the one who has never taken a pain killer of any kind post-op. I'm

> > unbearably uncomfortable and the doctor told me I would likely be this

> > way for 2 more weeks. I could really use some advice if anyone else

> > has been through this. I can barely function. : (

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

licensed

> > health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

> > professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

> > Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a

> > happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time

> > Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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Thank you. My doctor did prescribe 2 things for me, both of which I am

afraid to take because of my MCS and also because I am trying to

detox. Is there anything I can apply topically?? I'm going to boost my

olive leaf intake and I still have the olive leaf soap and cream but

have been afraid to try them. I'm in that much pain! That I am afraid

to try anything.

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I am so sorry ...I see that you don't want to take a prescription..

I don't know what else to use for shingles.

> Thank you. My doctor did prescribe 2 things for me, both of which I am

> afraid to take because of my MCS and also because I am trying to

> detox. Is there anything I can apply topically?? I'm going to boost my

> olive leaf intake and I still have the olive leaf soap and cream but

> have been afraid to try them. I'm in that much pain! That I am afraid

> to try anything.

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Shingles comes from the nerve root. Topical treatments will not help. At

least that is what info. I have been told.

Lynda

At 05:30 PM 9/6/2005, you wrote:

>Thank you. My doctor did prescribe 2 things for me, both of which I am

>afraid to take because of my MCS and also because I am trying to

>detox. Is there anything I can apply topically?? I'm going to boost my

>olive leaf intake and I still have the olive leaf soap and cream but

>have been afraid to try them. I'm in that much pain! That I am afraid

>to try anything.

>

>

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

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For what it's worth, the doctors that I worked for used to prescribe mild steroids along with pain meds and tell you to get lots of rest and fluids for approx. 3 days. I know that many are going through the detox though so taking meds would be difficult. I guess sometimes you have to weigh out the pros and the cons for the time being. Anyway, I hope that you feel much better soon. I have heard that it is very, very painful.....:-)

Dianektitko <ktitko@...> wrote:

Thank you. My doctor did prescribe 2 things for me, both of which I am afraid to take because of my MCS and also because I am trying to detox. Is there anything I can apply topically?? I'm going to boost my olive leaf intake and I still have the olive leaf soap and cream but have been afraid to try them. I'm in that much pain! That I am afraid to try anything. Diane

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Yes, everyone I have known who has had shingles had been in excruciating pain.

Lynda

At 06:19 PM 9/6/2005, you wrote:

>For what it's worth, the doctors that I worked for used to prescribe mild

>steroids along with pain meds and tell you to get lots of rest and fluids

>for approx. 3 days. I know that many are going through the detox though

>so taking meds would be difficult. I guess sometimes you have to weigh

>out the pros and the cons for the time being. Anyway, I hope that you

>feel much better soon. I have heard that it is very, very painful.....:-)

>Diane

>

>ktitko <ktitko@...> wrote:

>Thank you. My doctor did prescribe 2 things for me, both of which I am

>afraid to take because of my MCS and also because I am trying to

>detox. Is there anything I can apply topically?? I'm going to boost my

>olive leaf intake and I still have the olive leaf soap and cream but

>have been afraid to try them. I'm in that much pain! That I am afraid

>to try anything.

>

>

>

>

>

>Diane

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

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Have you ever taken Viracid or Viracon? They are oral herbal antiviral preparations. I would bet either of them would help shorten the duration. I take them when I have viruses to shorten the duration.

Kenda

Thank you. My doctor did prescribe 2 things for me, both of which I am

afraid to take because of my MCS and also because I am trying to

detox. Is there anything I can apply topically?? I'm going to boost my

olive leaf intake and I still have the olive leaf soap and cream but

have been afraid to try them. I'm in that much pain! That I am afraid

to try anything.

Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

" Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

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Shingles come from a herpes virus (NO, not the same as genital herpes)..

those of us who had chicken pox retain the virus in our bodies. It is later

dormant but

becomes active in times of stress (physical or emotional).

That is how my doctor explained it to me.

> Re: ShinglesThank you for this because my doctor thinks that I

too might

have Shingles. Rogene told me that I should be treated before they come out! It

feels like

an insect bite with pain, but there is nothing there!

>

> Love you....Lea

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`````````````

> Re: Shingles

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I'm sorry you're so miserable, it sounds awful. I have no experience with

shingles

personally, other than my husband's case a few years ago, but it makes perfect

sense to

me that you are having a flare because shingles can be brought on by stress.

There are

herbal products that can help shorten the duration. Since it's been so long

since my

husband had it, I can't recall the name but it did help him tremendously - and

it has never

come back.

>

> I hope you start feeling better really soon!!

>

> Kenda

>

>

>

> Hello. I haven't been on the group for a while due to a very busy and

> stressful life since explant. But I needed to check in today to ask

> this question... Has anyone contracted shingles as they detox? I just

> broke out with a horrendously painful case of shingles in my private

> regions. I have 3 patches of it from my labia to my buttock. I've

> never experienced anything so painful! This is so much worse than any

> surgery I've had. I actually was reduced to tears from this pain, me,

> the one who has never taken a pain killer of any kind post-op. I'm

> unbearably uncomfortable and the doctor told me I would likely be this

> way for 2 more weeks. I could really use some advice if anyone else

> has been through this. I can barely function. : (

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

licensed

health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

professional

before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

Find out what

the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and

how to work

for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

Chemistry; 1963,

Peace)

>

>

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That’s how it was explained to my husband as well. He was under extreme stress at the time, starting up a new company.

Kenda

Shingles come from a herpes virus (NO, not the same as genital herpes)..

those of us who had chicken pox retain the virus in our bodies. It is later dormant but

becomes active in times of stress (physical or emotional).

That is how my doctor explained it to me.

> Re: ShinglesThank you for this because my doctor thinks that I too might

have Shingles. Rogene told me that I should be treated before they come out! It feels like

an insect bite with pain, but there is nothing there!

>

> Love you....Lea

> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`````````````

> Re: Shingles

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I'm sorry you're so miserable, it sounds awful. I have no experience with shingles

personally, other than my husband's case a few years ago, but it makes perfect sense to

me that you are having a flare because shingles can be brought on by stress. There are

herbal products that can help shorten the duration. Since it's been so long since my

husband had it, I can't recall the name but it did help him tremendously - and it has never

come back.

>

> I hope you start feeling better really soon!!

>

> Kenda

>

>

>

> Hello. I haven't been on the group for a while due to a very busy and

> stressful life since explant. But I needed to check in today to ask

> this question... Has anyone contracted shingles as they detox? I just

> broke out with a horrendously painful case of shingles in my private

> regions. I have 3 patches of it from my labia to my buttock. I've

> never experienced anything so painful! This is so much worse than any

> surgery I've had. I actually was reduced to tears from this pain, me,

> the one who has never taken a pain killer of any kind post-op. I'm

> unbearably uncomfortable and the doctor told me I would likely be this

> way for 2 more weeks. I could really use some advice if anyone else

> has been through this. I can barely function. : (

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by licensed

health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care professional

before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you. Find out what

the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life and how to work

for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963,

Peace)

>

>

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Exactly, and many of us survivors had chicken pox (like the majority of

older Americans). Nowadays they give vaccines for that, but I am wary of

them. But shingles does attack the nerve roots, and is not affected much

by topical solutions.

Lynda

At 06:45 PM 9/6/2005, you wrote:

>Shingles come from a herpes virus (NO, not the same as genital herpes)..

>those of us who had chicken pox retain the virus in our bodies. It is

>later dormant but

>becomes active in times of stress (physical or emotional).

>That is how my doctor explained it to me.

>

>

> > Re: ShinglesThank you for this because my doctor thinks

> that I too might

>have Shingles. Rogene told me that I should be treated before they come

>out! It feels like

>an insect bite with pain, but there is nothing there!

> >

> > Love you....Lea

> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~`````````````

> > Re: Shingles

> >

> >

> > Hi ,

> >

> > I'm sorry you're so miserable, it sounds awful. I have no experience

> with shingles

>personally, other than my husband's case a few years ago, but it makes

>perfect sense to

>me that you are having a flare because shingles can be brought on by

>stress. There are

>herbal products that can help shorten the duration. Since it's been so

>long since my

>husband had it, I can't recall the name but it did help him tremendously -

>and it has never

>come back.

> >

> > I hope you start feeling better really soon!!

> >

> > Kenda

> >

> >

> >

> > Hello. I haven't been on the group for a while due to a very busy and

> > stressful life since explant. But I needed to check in today to ask

> > this question... Has anyone contracted shingles as they detox? I just

> > broke out with a horrendously painful case of shingles in my private

> > regions. I have 3 patches of it from my labia to my buttock. I've

> > never experienced anything so painful! This is so much worse than any

> > surgery I've had. I actually was reduced to tears from this pain, me,

> > the one who has never taken a pain killer of any kind post-op. I'm

> > unbearably uncomfortable and the doctor told me I would likely be this

> > way for 2 more weeks. I could really use some advice if anyone else

> > has been through this. I can barely function. : (

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given

> by licensed

>health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed health care

>professional

>before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

> mislead you. Find out what

>the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live a happy life

>and how to work

>for a better world. " - Linus ing, two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954,

>Chemistry; 1963,

>Peace)

> >

> >

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, I just posted this article about shingles a few weeks ago.

This provides at least a little hope and a product you can try.

I've copied my previous post:

In response to our recent posts on shingles, I found this in my

inbox this morning, in a newsletter put out by the Health Sciences

Institute. If you want to check their website, I'll provide the

link. Here is the good news about treating shingles:

" A case of shingles may last less than 10 days, but it's the post-

herpetic neuralgia (PHN) that can hang on and cause considerable

pain for long periods. Now research shows there may be an easy and

natural way to get quick relief.

In a study published in The American Journal of Medicine,

researchers divided 30 adults suffering PHN into four groups. One

group received topical treatments of geranium oil, while two groups

received a mix of geranium oil and mineral oil (at ratios of 1 to 1

and 1 to 10), and a fourth group received only mineral oil.

All of the subjects who received any amount of geranium oil reported

pain reduction. And using a scale of zero (indicating no pain) to

100 (extreme pain), those who received treatments containing 100

percent geranium oil experienced the greatest pain relief. Little or

no relief was reported by the placebo group, while relief was

proportional to the amount of geranium oil in the other two groups:

The more geranium oil, the greater the relief.

Some subjects experienced a slight irritation from the geranium oil,

but these irritations subsided within an hour or so.

Injections of vitamin B-12 and topical applications of peppermint

oil are also sometimes used to address PHN. More often, doctors

prescribe anti-viral medications that sometimes take days to work,

if they work at all.

Geranium oil (extracted from the leaves, stalks and flowers of an

Egyptian variety of geranium) has long been used as an anti-

inflammatory and a fungicidal. So if you're diagnosed with shingles,

prepare for the lingering pain that follows the healing of blisters

by checking with your local health store for geranium oil. And as

always, check with your doctor or naturopathic healthcare

professional before using any natural or over-the-counter treatment.

To Your Good Health,

http://www.hsibaltimore.com/faqs.html

Kirsten, if you try this oil, please let us know if it works for you!

Patty

> Hello. I haven't been on the group for a while due to a very busy

and

> stressful life since explant. But I needed to check in today to

ask

> this question... Has anyone contracted shingles as they detox? I

just

> broke out with a horrendously painful case of shingles in my

private

> regions. I have 3 patches of it from my labia to my buttock. I've

> never experienced anything so painful! This is so much worse than

any

> surgery I've had. I actually was reduced to tears from this pain,

me,

> the one who has never taken a pain killer of any kind post-op. I'm

> unbearably uncomfortable and the doctor told me I would likely be

this

> way for 2 more weeks. I could really use some advice if anyone

else

> has been through this. I can barely function. : (

>

> Thanks,

>

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,

I am so sorry you are suffering! I am like you....I have never been

one to take pain killers. I've been suffering from excruciating

dental pain lately, so I understand being reduced to tears.

Please read the article I just posted about using geranium oil to

help get over your pain. Let us know if it works for you.

Hugs,

Patty

> Hello. I haven't been on the group for a while due to a very busy

and

> stressful life since explant. But I needed to check in today to

ask

> this question... Has anyone contracted shingles as they detox? I

just

> broke out with a horrendously painful case of shingles in my

private

> regions. I have 3 patches of it from my labia to my buttock. I've

> never experienced anything so painful! This is so much worse than

any

> surgery I've had. I actually was reduced to tears from this pain,

me,

> the one who has never taken a pain killer of any kind post-op. I'm

> unbearably uncomfortable and the doctor told me I would likely be

this

> way for 2 more weeks. I could really use some advice if anyone

else

> has been through this. I can barely function. : (

>

> Thanks,

>

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Patty,

I forgot about the geranium oil. Did you find a good source for it in

health food stores so it can be obtained quickly?

Lynda

At 07:53 PM 9/6/2005, you wrote:

>, I just posted this article about shingles a few weeks ago.

>This provides at least a little hope and a product you can try.

>I've copied my previous post:

>

>In response to our recent posts on shingles, I found this in my

>inbox this morning, in a newsletter put out by the Health Sciences

>Institute. If you want to check their website, I'll provide the

>link. Here is the good news about treating shingles:

>

> " A case of shingles may last less than 10 days, but it's the post-

>herpetic neuralgia (PHN) that can hang on and cause considerable

>pain for long periods. Now research shows there may be an easy and

>natural way to get quick relief.

>

>In a study published in The American Journal of Medicine,

>researchers divided 30 adults suffering PHN into four groups. One

>group received topical treatments of geranium oil, while two groups

>received a mix of geranium oil and mineral oil (at ratios of 1 to 1

>and 1 to 10), and a fourth group received only mineral oil.

>

>All of the subjects who received any amount of geranium oil reported

>pain reduction. And using a scale of zero (indicating no pain) to

>100 (extreme pain), those who received treatments containing 100

>percent geranium oil experienced the greatest pain relief. Little or

>no relief was reported by the placebo group, while relief was

>proportional to the amount of geranium oil in the other two groups:

>The more geranium oil, the greater the relief.

>

>Some subjects experienced a slight irritation from the geranium oil,

>but these irritations subsided within an hour or so.

>

>Injections of vitamin B-12 and topical applications of peppermint

>oil are also sometimes used to address PHN. More often, doctors

>prescribe anti-viral medications that sometimes take days to work,

>if they work at all.

>

>Geranium oil (extracted from the leaves, stalks and flowers of an

>Egyptian variety of geranium) has long been used as an anti-

>inflammatory and a fungicidal. So if you're diagnosed with shingles,

>prepare for the lingering pain that follows the healing of blisters

>by checking with your local health store for geranium oil. And as

>always, check with your doctor or naturopathic healthcare

>professional before using any natural or over-the-counter treatment.

>

>To Your Good Health,

>

>

>

><http://www.hsibaltimore.com/faqs.html>http://www.hsibaltimore.com/faqs.html

>Kirsten, if you try this oil, please let us know if it works for you!

>Patty

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > Hello. I haven't been on the group for a while due to a very busy

>and

> > stressful life since explant. But I needed to check in today to

>ask

> > this question... Has anyone contracted shingles as they detox? I

>just

> > broke out with a horrendously painful case of shingles in my

>private

> > regions. I have 3 patches of it from my labia to my buttock. I've

> > never experienced anything so painful! This is so much worse than

>any

> > surgery I've had. I actually was reduced to tears from this pain,

>me,

> > the one who has never taken a pain killer of any kind post-op. I'm

> > unbearably uncomfortable and the doctor told me I would likely be

>this

> > way for 2 more weeks. I could really use some advice if anyone

>else

> > has been through this. I can barely function. : (

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

>

>

>

>

>Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice given by

>licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or licensed

>health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

>

> " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians mislead you.

>Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about how to live

>a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus ing,

>two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

>

>

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I think it would be available at stores like Wild Oats or any health

food store that carries essential oils. I am quite certain that it

is available and not a rare item to be found in larger cities. In

small towns, if those kinds of stores are not available, then I

think it would need to be ordered off of the internet. At least it

holds some promise of relief!

Patty

> >, I just posted this article about shingles a few weeks

ago.

> >This provides at least a little hope and a product you can try.

> >I've copied my previous post:

> >

> >In response to our recent posts on shingles, I found this in my

> >inbox this morning, in a newsletter put out by the Health Sciences

> >Institute. If you want to check their website, I'll provide the

> >link. Here is the good news about treating shingles:

> >

> > " A case of shingles may last less than 10 days, but it's the post-

> >herpetic neuralgia (PHN) that can hang on and cause considerable

> >pain for long periods. Now research shows there may be an easy and

> >natural way to get quick relief.

> >

> >In a study published in The American Journal of Medicine,

> >researchers divided 30 adults suffering PHN into four groups. One

> >group received topical treatments of geranium oil, while two

groups

> >received a mix of geranium oil and mineral oil (at ratios of 1 to

1

> >and 1 to 10), and a fourth group received only mineral oil.

> >

> >All of the subjects who received any amount of geranium oil

reported

> >pain reduction. And using a scale of zero (indicating no pain) to

> >100 (extreme pain), those who received treatments containing 100

> >percent geranium oil experienced the greatest pain relief. Little

or

> >no relief was reported by the placebo group, while relief was

> >proportional to the amount of geranium oil in the other two

groups:

> >The more geranium oil, the greater the relief.

> >

> >Some subjects experienced a slight irritation from the geranium

oil,

> >but these irritations subsided within an hour or so.

> >

> >Injections of vitamin B-12 and topical applications of peppermint

> >oil are also sometimes used to address PHN. More often, doctors

> >prescribe anti-viral medications that sometimes take days to work,

> >if they work at all.

> >

> >Geranium oil (extracted from the leaves, stalks and flowers of an

> >Egyptian variety of geranium) has long been used as an anti-

> >inflammatory and a fungicidal. So if you're diagnosed with

shingles,

> >prepare for the lingering pain that follows the healing of

blisters

> >by checking with your local health store for geranium oil. And as

> >always, check with your doctor or naturopathic healthcare

> >professional before using any natural or over-the-counter

treatment.

> >

> >To Your Good Health,

> >

> >

> >

>

><http://www.hsibaltimore.com/faqs.html>http://www.hsibaltimore.com/f

aqs.html

> >Kirsten, if you try this oil, please let us know if it works for

you!

> >Patty

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >--- In , " ktitko " <ktitko@y...>

wrote:

> > > Hello. I haven't been on the group for a while due to a very

busy

> >and

> > > stressful life since explant. But I needed to check in today to

> >ask

> > > this question... Has anyone contracted shingles as they detox?

I

> >just

> > > broke out with a horrendously painful case of shingles in my

> >private

> > > regions. I have 3 patches of it from my labia to my buttock.

I've

> > > never experienced anything so painful! This is so much worse

than

> >any

> > > surgery I've had. I actually was reduced to tears from this

pain,

> >me,

> > > the one who has never taken a pain killer of any kind post-op.

I'm

> > > unbearably uncomfortable and the doctor told me I would likely

be

> >this

> > > way for 2 more weeks. I could really use some advice if anyone

> >else

> > > has been through this. I can barely function. : (

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >Opinions expressed are NOT meant to take the place of advice

given by

> >licensed health care professionals. Consult your physician or

licensed

> >health care professional before commencing any medical treatment.

> >

> > " Do not let either the medical authorities or the politicians

mislead you.

> >Find out what the facts are, and make your own decisions about

how to live

> >a happy life and how to work for a better world. " - Linus

ing,

> >two-time Nobel Prize Winner (1954, Chemistry; 1963, Peace)

> >

> >

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I just wanted to say that I am so sorry that you are is so much

pain. Hopefully this will pass soon. CAn you refresh our memories

as to what you are currently doing for detox---any supplements, or

herbs or cleansings you have done or are still doing? Maybe that

will help figure something out. I would try large doses of vitamin

C powder. Vit C in large doses can help with virus and shingles is

chicken pox virus. Also quercitin helps stop virus replication. It

is related vitamin C. ARe you taking olive leaf? It supposedly

kills this kind of virus. If you aren't you might want to try it.

If you are, it could actually be bringing it the surface in you.

These are just some thoughts. Also, maybe vitamin 12 as it helps

nerves and shingles form on nerve endings I think. I just did a

search engine check and vit C and B 12 are both are recommended by

various sites for shingles. Good luck and I said a prayer for you.

love,kathy

> Hello. I haven't been on the group for a while due to a very busy

and

> stressful life since explant. But I needed to check in today to

ask

> this question... Has anyone contracted shingles as they detox? I

just

> broke out with a horrendously painful case of shingles in my

private

> regions. I have 3 patches of it from my labia to my buttock. I've

> never experienced anything so painful! This is so much worse than

any

> surgery I've had. I actually was reduced to tears from this pain,

me,

> the one who has never taken a pain killer of any kind post-op. I'm

> unbearably uncomfortable and the doctor told me I would likely be

this

> way for 2 more weeks. I could really use some advice if anyone

else

> has been through this. I can barely function. : (

>

> Thanks,

>

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oh wow .... how awful!!

I had them before removing my implants but on my back that moved around to my chest... They were horribly painful I can not imagine having them where you do....I am so sorry. I will say that my hubby had them recently and they gave him Valtrex and they stopped growing any larger and were gone in a few days... I know you don't like meds but in some cases it may be worth it... I had chicken pox in my early 20's - horrible case of them. They were all over the areas you have described as well as in my mouth, ears, on my tongue ... the ones that hurt the most were the private areas - I would cringe everytime I had to use the restroom. I feel for you - I cannot imagine the pain on my back down there.... My hubby is a very strong man... never takes meds of any kind, never emotional, etc.... the shingles he had were in a very small area on his back as we caught them early and it almost drove him mad. I have never seen him in that much pain... I had some cream that numbed skin from a biopsy they had to do on Logan on one of his lovely "bumps" he has been getting from my damn implants... he didn't really hurt too much after so I didn't use it but used it all on my hubby's back a few months ago... maybe they can prescribe somthing like that - a cream to numb the area.... it only lasted a half hour or so but gave him great relief... I will look for it and see what the name is and let you know but I think it was just some RX lidocane...

keep us posted

love

shari

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Valtrex was what I was trying to think of - that's what I had and it was the

only thing that

really helped

> oh wow .... how awful!!

>

> I had them before removing my implants but on my back that moved around to my

> chest... They were horribly painful I can not imagine having them where you

> do....I am so sorry. I will say that my hubby had them recently and they gave

> him Valtrex and they stopped growing any larger and were gone in a few days...

> I know you don't like meds but in some cases it may be worth it... I had

> chicken pox in my early 20's - horrible case of them. They were all over the

> areas you have described as well as in my mouth, ears, on my tongue ... the

ones

> that hurt the most were the private areas - I would cringe everytime I had to

> use the restroom. I feel for you - I cannot imagine the pain on my back down

> there.... My hubby is a very strong man... never takes meds of any kind,

never

> emotional, etc.... the shingles he had were in a very small area on his back

> as we caught them early and it almost drove him mad. I have never seen him in

> that much pain... I had some cream that numbed skin from a biopsy they had to

> do on Logan on one of his lovely " bumps " he has been getting from my damn

> implants... he didn't really hurt too much after so I didn't use it but used

it

> all on my hubby's back a few months ago... maybe they can prescribe somthing

> like that - a cream to numb the area.... it only lasted a half hour or so but

> gave him great relief... I will look for it and see what the name is and let

you

> know but I think it was just some RX lidocane...

>

> keep us posted

>

> love

> shari

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hi I had Shingles two years ago this same time of year. I am told if you see

a neurologist right away it will be less painful. I had waited because of

the holiday season and my doctors were all away on vacation. I just took advil

for pain. The pain however went into my hip. I was pretty miserable for

about two weeks. The pain in my hip last for months.. I hope you are feeling

better soon.. Carol

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