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Debbie,

Iodine (including radiological dyes), several diuretics (spironolactone,

triamterene, amiloride), NSAIDs, heavy metal poisoning, diabetes,

dehydration, and kidney damage can all cause potassium retention,

especially in combination. Do you use a salt substitute?

You wrote:

>

> ...Is there any connection with potassium & Thyroid? If not then I know I

> can dismiss it from my mind.

I have never read about any, except in myxedema, but you should still

not dismiss it. Hyperkalemia can be life threatening.

Chuck

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Hi Chuck,

Thank you, no I don't take any added salt on anything.

Debbie

>

> Debbie,

>

> Iodine (including radiological dyes), several diuretics

> (spironolactone,

> triamterene, amiloride), NSAIDs, heavy metal poisoning, diabetes,

> dehydration, and kidney damage can all cause potassium retention,

> especially in combination. Do you use a salt substitute?

>

.......

Hyperkalemia can be life threatening.

>

> Chuck

>

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Hi Debbie

When hypothyroid, the hypoxia that goes with it tends to dump out

magnesium from cells and it shows up in the serum/extra-cellular

fluid. The same is also possible with potassium.

Correspondingly, hyperthyroidism might reduce the apparent

serum/extra-cellular fluid potassium (and magnesium) levels, since

the cells mop up all the spare electrolytes to 'get them going again'.

Between the two of them, these two electrolyte ions can cause quite

some confusion, as to the actual symptoms that need to be treated.

The ECG trace will tend to show up the apparently high potassium (by

the shape of the trace ); a skilled/trained ambulance medic will be

able to spot this.

If the A & E staff have enough experience they'll give magnesium to get

the potassium back into the cells, if they know the patient is either

hypothyroid or hyperthyroid.

Adding just saline may not be enough ~ but will expand the blood

volume to 'apparently' reduce the potassium excess....and that ought

to show up in the ECG trace, if the treatment is moving in the right

direction.

Cautious dilution by drinking water might bring down the potassium

level, in an emergency, but not so much as to dilute other vital

electrolytes.

Hope that helps a little.

best wishes

Bob

>

> On reading the Adrenal questions I noticed that there is a question

> regarding Potassium only in as much that does one crave foods with

that

> in it. About a year ago I was rushed to hospital due to vomiting &

> racing heart, when the ambulance guy had me all wired up he said to

me,

> you have very high levels of potassium & asked how many bananas do

I

> eat an hour, I told him I don't ever eat them. When we arrived at

the

> hospital they ignored what he was telling them about my very high

> potassium levels & nothing has ever been mentioned since.

> Is there any connection with potassium & Thyroid? If not then I

know I

> can dismiss it from my mind.

> Thanks

> Debbie

>

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Yes I think so Bob, I wish I can take you to my Doc's with me

Thank you

Debbie

>

> Hi Debbie

>

> When hypothyroid, the hypoxia that goes with it tends to dump out

> magnesium from cells and it shows up in the serum/extra-cellular

> fluid. The same is also possible with potassium.

>

> Correspondingly, hyperthyroidism might reduce the apparent

> serum/extra-cellular fluid potassium (and magnesium) levels, since

> the cells mop up all the spare electrolytes to 'get them going

again'.

>

> Between the two of them, these two electrolyte ions can cause quite

> some confusion, as to the actual symptoms that need to be treated.

>

> The ECG trace will tend to show up the apparently high potassium

(by

> the shape of the trace ); a skilled/trained ambulance medic will be

> able to spot this.

>

> If the A & E staff have enough experience they'll give magnesium to

get

> the potassium back into the cells, if they know the patient is

either

> hypothyroid or hyperthyroid.

>

> Adding just saline may not be enough ~ but will expand the blood

> volume to 'apparently' reduce the potassium excess....and that

ought

> to show up in the ECG trace, if the treatment is moving in the

right

> direction.

>

> Cautious dilution by drinking water might bring down the potassium

> level, in an emergency, but not so much as to dilute other vital

> electrolytes.

>

> Hope that helps a little.

>

> best wishes

> Bob

>

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Hi Debbie

I could accompany in the Bristol area.....if necessary....

elsewhere, it'd be rather difficult.

Bob

>

> Yes I think so Bob, I wish I can take you to my Doc's with me

> Thank you

> Debbie

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> Bee,

>

> I was just wondering where we get our recommended potassium for the day

without fruit? I know vegetables include it, but is that enough to reach the

recommended amount of 2000mg? Most seem to be in 100-200mg range per serving.

>

+++Hi Mike. There are numerous foods that contain potassium, even tea and

meats. It is almost impossible to not get enough potassium - see this:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/nutrients6.php

Bee

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Dear Jill,

You are correct about potassium. Too little and it weakens the heart muscle

and you can have a heart attack. Too much and it causes an irregular heart

beat. Either way, it needs to be watched if it goes way too much or too little.

I didn't get the results back from taking the drink, but as you say, it is

supposed to clear your system of the excess. I am sorry your husband has so

many problems, but I'm sure with your gentle care, he will overcome the hurdles

on a day to day basis. I feel the caregiver faces equal challenges. I know my

husband is not sleeping nights since I am suspect (no testing has begun as yet)

for the renal failure. I read that taking Iboprofun can cause your serum levels

to be elevated, so the little I was taking, I have stopped.

I keep asking myself the question, why didn't anyone tell me what it was

like to be old? I probably would have had other things on my mind besides

worrying about getting old. My maternal grandfather lived to be 91 or 92 and my

fraternal grandmother died at 87.

I haven't gotten to their record yet, but I passed up my parents by some months,

but who's counting? We just have to take it one day at a time. I met a young

woman who had CLL twice and was bald when I met her. Now her husband has liver

and throat cancer, and she is taking care of him.

I hope you are right, , that my new doctor is keeping on top of

everything. The first thing he noted was the potassium levels and then the

creatinine serum levels in my kidneys were too high and he is making an

appointment for me to see another specialist. He told me by the way that he

thought I had done all the right things in seeking other treatment and in not

sticking with the local oncologist I had for over 14 years. He immediately put

me on a regimen of Procrit. Another challenge to face, but I will have to take

that one, one day at a time, too.

Hands & hearts,

Lottie Duthu

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