Potassium

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Irene and ,

To clarify: I have managed NOT to take drugs, with the exception of

blood pressure meds, since I started the BTD 8 years ago.

I use very little sodium--in fact, was hospitalized 4 days last year due

to low sodium. Had been taking 20 mg lasix--which was stopped as I no

needed.

Have not been having any tissue swelling without it.

Started having intermittent shortness of breath determined NOT related

to heart.

It continued and I gave my Dr. additional clues as to when it happened.

She took another blood test and found the CHF.

Cardio Dr. prescribed 40 mg lasix without the potassium, which I

questioned. so he had me take a chem panel 3 weeks later,

(in meantime I was concentrating on high potassium foods) Test showed

potassium down to below range. Prescribed the 10meq. Two weeks later,

had only moved .02. Doubled to 20meq. It is now on the lowest of the

range.

He keeps adding another pill for the HBP.

I have asked why he can't find out what is causing the HBP instead of

another pill -- his answer -- we'd have to do too much testing. (I'm now

taking 3 different meds (one twice a day) plus the lasix & potassium.

Oh, how I would love to be able to trash them all. I hate it!!

For my age (80) I am in pretty good physical condition. Survived a light

heart attack 2 years ago. (no meds there) Thanks to prayer and Irene's

help, I am now free of my leukemia (CLL). Do aerobics and weight

training 4 days a week. Still do pet and house sitting several months of

the year. This is a great improvement over my health of 8 years ago ---

all due to ER4YBT!!! Oh, how I wish I had found this in my 50 or 60's.

Irene, if potassium is not a drug, why is a prescription needed? Just

so the druggist can get his share if the $? :-)

I'm so concerned right now as my latest chem panel showed sodium and P

within the safe range, albeit low end, but my BUN numbers were high

first time ever.

Afraid that something may be affecting my kidneys.

Sorry for the lengthy post. I'm so grateful to you gals (, Kathy

and Irene) for all your gracious help.

....Wanda in No. Ca.

[Guest guest]

Have you ever talked to a homeopath or a naturopath? There are natural ways to

normalize blood pressure. One of those could probably help you get off the

meds.

Re: Potassium

Irene and ,

To clarify: I have managed NOT to take drugs, with the exception of

blood pressure meds, since I started the BTD 8 years ago.

I use very little sodium--in fact, was hospitalized 4 days last year due

to low sodium. Had been taking 20 mg lasix--which was stopped as I no

needed.

Have not been having any tissue swelling without it.

Started having intermittent shortness of breath determined NOT related

to heart.

It continued and I gave my Dr. additional clues as to when it happened.

She took another blood test and found the CHF.

Cardio Dr. prescribed 40 mg lasix without the potassium, which I

questioned. so he had me take a chem panel 3 weeks later,

(in meantime I was concentrating on high potassium foods) Test showed

potassium down to below range. Prescribed the 10meq. Two weeks later,

had only moved .02. Doubled to 20meq. It is now on the lowest of the

range.

He keeps adding another pill for the HBP.

I have asked why he can't find out what is causing the HBP instead of

another pill -- his answer -- we'd have to do too much testing. (I'm now

taking 3 different meds (one twice a day) plus the lasix & potassium.

Oh, how I would love to be able to trash them all. I hate it!!

For my age (80) I am in pretty good physical condition. Survived a light

heart attack 2 years ago. (no meds there) Thanks to prayer and Irene's

help, I am now free of my leukemia (CLL). Do aerobics and weight

training 4 days a week. Still do pet and house sitting several months of

the year. This is a great improvement over my health of 8 years ago ---

all due to ER4YBT!!! Oh, how I wish I had found this in my 50 or 60's.

Irene, if potassium is not a drug, why is a prescription needed? Just

so the druggist can get his share if the $? :-)

I'm so concerned right now as my latest chem panel showed sodium and P

within the safe range, albeit low end, but my BUN numbers were high

first time ever.

Afraid that something may be affecting my kidneys.

Sorry for the lengthy post. I'm so grateful to you gals (, Kathy

and Irene) for all your gracious help.

...Wanda in No. Ca.

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walou@... wrote:

> Irene and ,

> To clarify: I have managed NOT to take drugs, with the exception of

> blood pressure meds

Blood pressure meds are the worst for losing your potassium however -

ones like hydrochlorothiazine or anything containing it for example,

practically pumps out your potassium. 10MeQ is very unlikely to replace

what that one pumps out.

When I had high blood pressure (210/110 type BP's), I refused drugs -

used hawthorn berry and homeopathy to *heal* my heart rather than to

just " manage " it. I don't need the herbs or homeopathy any more, my

heart is healed and my blood pressure now is 102/68.

> I use very little sodium--in fact, was hospitalized 4 days last year due

> to low sodium. Had been taking 20 mg lasix-

Drugs in my view are dangerous - they prevent your body from doing what

it should to maintain balance.

> Cardio Dr. prescribed 40 mg lasix without the potassium, which I

> questioned. so he had me take a chem panel 3 weeks later,

> (in meantime I was concentrating on high potassium foods) Test showed

> potassium down to below range.

That's dangerous - it can cause serious muscle damage to the heart.

> Prescribed the 10meq. Two weeks later,

> had only moved .02. Doubled to 20meq. It is now on the lowest of the

> range.

Doctors are ridiculously afraid of potassium. For some reason they do

not compute that low potassium is as deadly as high potassium. The

normal range is 3.5 to 5.3, and I take potassium enough to put mine

around 4.2 or 4.3. (whether my doctor approves or not; though I have

finally found one who agrees with me that it is dangerous to have it low.)

> He keeps adding another pill for the HBP.

> I have asked why he can't find out what is causing the HBP instead of

> another pill

Allopathy is not designed to find or fix causes - only to suppress

symptoms for a fee that supports drug companies.

You'd need to see someone in a real heath care profession (as opposed to

disease suppression profession) to get progress on health instead of

suppression of symptoms. You'd want to get healthy first (don't just

stop a prescription you take).

> For my age (80) I am in pretty good physical condition. Survived a light

> heart attack 2 years ago. (no meds there) Thanks to prayer and Irene's

> help, I am now free of my leukemia (CLL). Do aerobics and weight

> training 4 days a week. Still do pet and house sitting several months of

> the year. This is a great improvement over my health of 8 years ago ---

> all due to ER4YBT!!! Oh, how I wish I had found this in my 50 or 60's.

You have the best attitude - credit that :-))))

> Irene, if potassium is not a drug, why is a prescription needed? Just

> so the druggist can get his share if the $? :-)

Doctors are all trained to be scared of potassium being too high. So you

can get it without prescription but only 99mg per capsule due to FDA

rule - enough for a fifth of a cup of orange juice. After I moved here,

I used to take 100 of those a day till I managed to prove to the local

doctors that I needed a prescription if only to get less gelatin in my

diet, since I was not going to take less potassium and endanger my

health because they were too ignorant to know I needed it! (My mother

died of a heart attack because the doctors with-held her potassium for 2

days - we have the same inherited kidney defect that wastes it.)

The fear of potassium is because if you take more than about 2250mg even

in emergency, it will kick your heart too hard all at once. In the ER

for example if you arrive there seriously low on potassium, 2250mg is

the max they will give at a time (same as 22 and a half OTC capsules)

and they prefer to use 1500 at a time. they'll wait 2 hrs before

repeating a dose if more is needed. The 10 MEq amount is 750mg - 7 and a

half OTC caps worth.

Of course if you take too much aspirin that also will kill you - but

nobody makes aspirin rules to be only 5 mg per tablet. They ust label it

suitably. Why they do not do that with potassium I don't know.

> I'm so concerned right now as my latest chem panel showed sodium and P

> within the safe range, albeit low end, but my BUN numbers were high

> first time ever.

> Afraid that something may be affecting my kidneys.

Too little potassium can affect the kidneys, but the main kidney issues

are to do with getting *enough* high quality protein - red meat not soy

- and fish oil.

BUN being high may be transient and can have to do with a high protein

meal recently - it's creatinine you want to have in normal range for sure.

Unlike some others on the list I do not believe in eating a bunch

of saturated fat and trans fat - and I stick to red meat with the

fat replaced by extra virgin olive oil - and take fish oil 4 caps a day.

I do eat eggs as many as I like as they come with lecithin built in to

emulsify the fat.

This strategy has put my blood pressure where I want it (102/68),

which is where it was when I was a teenager (I'm 56). My problem with

saturated fat is the connection to lack of cell wall permeability -

which would be especially relevant for good kidney function. I need to

really worry about mine due to both the kidney defect I have - and due

to a serious illness in 1972 that destroyed half my kidneys.

A year ago my kidneys were spilling protein - they no longer do,

and my own BUN and creatinine is back in normal limits on the approach I

use. It needs a very high protein diet, and I get most of it from 95%

fat free meat, with some fish and plenty of egg. I also eat lots of

antioxidant foods and very low carbohydrate - lots of green/red veg.

> Sorry for the lengthy post.

No length limits here :-)))

Happy 4th July to all !!

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

[Guest guest]

Many times the lack of potassium causes the need for diurectics. So you do the

potassium and maybe some diurectic herbs and you don't need the meds.

KM

Bumpas <lindabumpas@...> wrote:

I think this discussion is going in the wrong direction. In this case, the

potassium was prescribed because the diuretic prescribed causes potassium loss.

All conventional doctors will prescribe potassium with those diuretics. They

are not necessarily enlightened. So taking the potassium isn't a problem. I

would be looking for ways to avoid the diuretic.

Re: Potassium

walou@... wrote:

> As a part of my treatment for hypertension, I was prescribed a diuretic

> and potassium (10MEQ). When it didn't increase the potassium level --

> The Dr. doubled the dose.

Hi Wanda,

Your potassium level is critical and if you need more to get that level

right, then it is good to take it.

The 10 MEq you are getting is a drop in the ocean. It's about one and a

half glasses of orange juice worth - not a big deal.

I take ten of thos 10 MEq's a day - but I am an extreme case as I have a

kidney defect.

Potassium is not a drug - it's an electrolyte nutrient your body needs,

so do not think of it as a drug but as a nutrient. To reduce your need

for more and more, you would benefit by lowering your sodium intake. I

do not eat anything with salt added. If I did I'd be worse - actually

I'd die due tot eh kidney defect - but in a normal person more sodium

means more potassium needed to balance it.

Think how nature supplies our food:

It is VERY high in potassium in fruit and vegetable and seafood - and

very low in sodium all round.

So what do we tend to do?

We go put HUGE amounts of sodium (table salt or sea salt) all over

everything and eat food with the ratios back to front - and then wonder

why we get ill :-)

So your doctor is trying to get you more healthy- and I WISH more

doctors would prescribe potassium. They usually offer drugs instead!!!

The 10 MeQ (milli-equivalents) you take is the equivalent of 750mg of

potassium incase you want to compare with orange juice, bananas and

grapefruit juice labels.

The potassium is used by the body to control sodium balance, reducing

blood pressure and edema, and for helping muscles work, and for

retaining the magnesium you need - and a host of other important functions.

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

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>Have you ever talked to a homeopath or

> a naturopath? There are natural ways to

> normalize blood pressure.

, I have really tried to find a homeopath in my area -- with no

luck.

I did find a Naturopath who was very personable -- took a couple of test

-- but didn't seem interested in talking about my HBP. So, she has

faded by the wayside.

Still looking for a GOOD homeopath by going farther afield. ....Wanda

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walou@... wrote:

> Still looking for a GOOD homeopath by going farther afield. ....Wanda

Dear Wanda,

Write directly to the British Instittue of Homeopathy USA headquarters

in NJ, tell them where you are located and ask them to suggest a

graduate of BIH in your area. The email is:

info@...

You can tell them I suggested you contact them :-)

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

[Guest guest]

Irene, thanks so much --- I followed your advice and an e-mail is on

it's way.

Here's hoping for a positive reply.

...... Wanda

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In a message dated 7/3/2005 5:44:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kathymatthews@... writes:

Many times the lack of potassium causes the need for diurectics. So you do

the potassium and maybe some diurectic herbs and you don't need the meds.

There are also potassium sparing diuretics.

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Maddviking@... wrote:

> There are also potassium sparing diuretics.

>

Three of them - all with totally horrible side effects yes. And not one

that repairs what's wrong. Nice idea for the drug companies - you get to

buy their toxins for life, and add more as the side feffect damnage

increases over time.

But more importantly, why would you replace a natural potassium need

with a drug to suppress the results of the potassium need.

This makes no sense to me.

Why not Fix what's wrong - instead of suppressing the symptoms that

result from what's wrong with yet another poison!

And no doubt after that they can add still more drugs to suppress the

side effects of the first ones and so on and so on.

Where's the logic?

Doctors are forever telling me to take potassium sparing drugs " so that

I do not need to take as much potassium " !!! Huh???

Potassium is a nutrient. If my body needs it, it needs it. Drugs for

deficiency symptoms are no substitute!

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

[Guest guest]

Well said !

Irene de Villiers <furryboots@...> wrote:

Maddviking@... wrote:

> There are also potassium sparing diuretics.

>

Three of them - all with totally horrible side effects yes. And not one

that repairs what's wrong. Nice idea for the drug companies - you get to

buy their toxins for life, and add more as the side feffect damnage

increases over time.

But more importantly, why would you replace a natural potassium need

with a drug to suppress the results of the potassium need.

This makes no sense to me.

Why not Fix what's wrong - instead of suppressing the symptoms that

result from what's wrong with yet another poison!

And no doubt after that they can add still more drugs to suppress the

side effects of the first ones and so on and so on.

Where's the logic?

Doctors are forever telling me to take potassium sparing drugs " so that

I do not need to take as much potassium " !!! Huh???

Potassium is a nutrient. If my body needs it, it needs it. Drugs for

deficiency symptoms are no substitute!

Namaste,

Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/4/2005 9:38:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kathymatthews@... writes:

Three of them - all with totally horrible side effects yes. And not one

that repairs what's wrong.

Well, I have CHF and an irregular heart beat because I have an enlarged

heart. No one knows why since I have no cardiovascular problems and clean

arteries. May have been a virus, doctors don't know but my heart is enlarged

and

needs help to pump the blood around my body. I'm given an ACE inhibitor (low

dose) to open my veins to and a rhythm med to let my heart beat easier. I take

diuretics to assist in getting the water out. One of them is potassium sparing

and has done nothing but eliminate all of the edema in my limbs and around my

heart. No side effects so far after 18 months. I now walk 3-5 miles a day.

I can do light work now, go up and down stairs without nearly passing out, and

am losing weight. I'm feeling " normal " for the first time in six years. I'm

hoping to exercise my heart to a point where I can wean off of these meds but

right now they're saving my life. My doctor and I battle about meds all of

the time because he likes to tinker but so far I still need the ones I'm taking.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/4/2005 9:38:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

kathymatthews@... writes:

Three of them - all with totally horrible side effects yes. And not one

that repairs what's wrong.

Well, I have CHF and an irregular heart beat because I have an enlarged

heart. No one knows why since I have no cardiovascular problems and clean

arteries. May have been a virus, doctors don't know but my heart is enlarged

and

needs help to pump the blood around my body. I'm given an ACE inhibitor (low

dose) to open my veins to and a rhythm med to let my heart beat easier. I take

diuretics to assist in getting the water out. One of them is potassium sparing

and has done nothing but eliminate all of the edema in my limbs and around my

heart. No side effects so far after 18 months. I now walk 3-5 miles a day.

I can do light work now, go up and down stairs without nearly passing out, and

am losing weight. I'm feeling " normal " for the first time in six years. I'm

hoping to exercise my heart to a point where I can wean off of these meds but

right now they're saving my life. My doctor and I battle about meds all of

the time because he likes to tinker but so far I still need the ones I'm taking.

[Guest guest]

Irene, I recieved a prompt reply from BIH.

Rec'd a list of practitioners, of which only two were within 200 miles

of my home.

Those two were not BIH graduates, but were highly recommended.

It is a little far, thru very heavy traffic, for me to drive often, but

one of them welcomes phone visits---even for the 2 hour initial one.

Thanks Irene-- and I did mention your name. Wanda

[Guest guest]

Irene, I recieved a prompt reply from BIH.

Rec'd a list of practitioners, of which only two were within 200 miles

of my home.

Those two were not BIH graduates, but were highly recommended.

It is a little far, thru very heavy traffic, for me to drive often, but

one of them welcomes phone visits---even for the 2 hour initial one.

Thanks Irene-- and I did mention your name. Wanda

[Guest guest]

Maddviking@... wrote:

> Well, I have CHF and an irregular heart beat because I have an enlarged

> heart.

Hi Max,

That can sure slow you down - it's what I had diagnosed in April 2001.

I was huffing and puffing for a living then :-)

> I'm given an ACE inhibitor (low

> dose) to open my veins

ACE inhibitors do not open your veins - they prevent omega-3 plant oils

from closing them which is not the same thing.

If you want to actually open them, you skip the ACE and use fish oil.

ACE inhibitors block the action areas of ALL omega-3 eicosanoids, some

of which have inflammatory prostaglandins (an eicosanoid) and some of

which have net anti-inflammatory eicosanoids.

The plant origin ones (flax oil for example) are inflammatory and

cause vessels to constrict - and the ACE blocks that constriction.

But the fish oil ones with DHA and EPA are anti-inflammatory and

cause the vessels to dilate improving flow, lowering pressure - in veins

and kidneys both - but ACE blocks that too as it just blocks the

eicosanoid effect good or bad.

I chose to avoid ACE inhibitors as a result - and use 4 caps of

fish oil a day instead.

> to and a rhythm med to let my heart beat easier.

I skipped that drug too and substituted hawthorn berry capsules starting

2 twice a day and working up to 4 twice a day. This gave me a much more

reliable heart beat.

> I take

> diuretics to assist in getting the water out. One of them is potassium

sparing

> and has done nothing but eliminate all of the edema in my limbs and around my

> heart.

Lucky you - I got my arm bent into trying all three available ones with

disastrous consequences - so I just took more potassium and Vit B6 as

that is also diuretic. Not till I started ER4YT however did I really get

rid of the edema well.

> No side effects so far after 18 months. I now walk 3-5 miles a day.

> I can do light work now, go up and down stairs without nearly passing out, and

> am losing weight. I'm feeling " normal " for the first time in six years.

It's progress but it's oh so slow.

Using positive approach rather than suppressive drugs I had a normal

size heart xray after 7 months and was riding my bicycle 15 miles

including some hills.

> I'm

> hoping to exercise my heart to a point where I can wean off of these meds but

> right now they're saving my life.

It depends what you compare them with.

Compare with the approach I used - and yours is stuck in the dark ages -

no offence intended. It's taking away years of productive life from you

- by taking years instead of months to get progress - is it not?

Why compare with doing nothing - compare with what else is available?

If I used that protocol you are using I'd probably also be struggling

with heart issues or maybe I'd not be here considering the rest of the

complex isues I have in addition. Instead my heart is in good shape and

I have the other issues to deal with. My sickly looking EKG, oversize

heart and sky high BP of apr 2001 was normal in 7 months. The doctor was

most surprised - he thought enlarged hearts with thickened walls did not

revert to normal much less so fast. But the proof was in the xrays,

echo-sound and other tests.

So you my think drugs are saving your life - but compared to the

alternative I chose, I consider they are holding you back.

I also think your use of saturated fat holds you back :-))

I avoided it in favour of fish oil and EV olive and the results for

cardiovascular health for me are good :-)

> My doctor and I battle about meds all of

> the time because he likes to tinker but so far I still need the ones I'm

taking.

Ot something more effective?

ACE is not anti-inflammatory - it's neutral. A positive

anti-inflammatory like fish oil would give you faster progress. Check

out the research on DHA anbd EPA from fish oil:-) Taking fish oil and

ACE at the same time will not help as the ACE blocks the fish oil benefits.

ACE is useful to limit damage (but not to give progress) if your

saturated fat intake is high as that is inflammatory - and if your plant

oil omega-3 is high, as that also is inflammatory.

When you are healthy - you can do the sat fat thing - not when you have

cardiovascular disease IMO. That is *my* experience with myself and my

animal clients with CHF - it's very prevalent in cats.

Why settle for a method that takes 6 years or more to show any progress?

Namaste,

IRene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc AASCA MCSSA D.I.Hom. Box 4703 Spokane WA 99220.

www.angelfire.com/fl/furryboots/clickhere.html (Veterinary Homeopath.)

Proverb:Man who say it cannot be done should not interrupt one doing it.

[Guest guest]

I don't think there is an official one but the recomendation from

anyone certainly should not be 99mg. As you say nearly all

recomendations based on experience and looking at quantities in food

and healthy people etc 2-5grams is a good aim

Phil

> >

> > I am not sure I understand what you are saying here? The RDA

which

> > for potassium is 3.5 Grams, not 99mg, that is the amount in

> > supplements?

>

> ==>I understood there was no RDA for potassium - see this reference:

> How Much Potassium Is Enough?

> http://www.lifeclinic.com/focus/nutrition/potassium.asp

> Although there is no recommended daily allowance (RDA) for

potassium,

> the National Library of Medicine suggests that consuming 2 to 2.5

> grams of potassium a day is adequate. Most Americans consume

between 2

> and 6 grams of potassium each day.

>

> Bee

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi Bee, what would you reccomend for a diabetic that has too much

potassium in the urine?

==>Taking the lemon & sea salt drink will help balance out your

minerals, along with the meats, eggs, and fats on the diet. You

could lower your carbs even more for awhile too - about a month.

> Your thoughts and expertice are greatly appreciated.

>

> How is you father doing?

==>He's doing much better. Thank you for asking. My daughter and I

are going to visit my parents from June 17 to 25. There will be a

big family reunion with all 7 of my brothers and sisters (5 brothers

and 2 sisters)! My other daughter, Rhonda, will also be there.

Yippee!

Love & hugs to you,

Bee

[Guest guest]

I'm so happy to hear you're father is doing much better, does he know that the

family is going down for a vist? What a lovely father's day present he'll have

this year.

P.S.: I'm having problems with canada, some of my messages are not send

or received, sure hope this problems is solved soon. Also, some of my messages

come with a lot of junk attached, I'm trying to get rid of it but sometimes it

just doesn't work.

All the best,

Maddalena

Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

>

> How is you father doing?

==>He's doing much better. Thank you for asking. My daughter and I are going to

visit my parents from June 17 to 25.

.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Maddalena wrote:

>

> I'm so happy to hear you're father is doing much better, does he know

that the family is going down for a visit? What a lovely father's day

present he'll have this year.

==>Thanks. He knows we are coming, plus my Mother's 85th birthday is

the day after Father's day, so it will be a great celebration.

>

> P.S.: I'm having problems with canada, some of my messages

are not send or received, sure hope this problems is solved soon.

Also, some of my messages come with a lot of junk attached, I'm trying

to get rid of it but sometimes it just doesn't work.

==>I had lots of problems too, and I'm hoping the changes has

been making is done now! It's been a real pain.

Bee

[Guest guest]

I had a problem while in the hospital w/my potassium level too. The

nurses kept me on an IV with it the entire 5 days I was there. I

take high blood pressure meds (thanks Mom, Dad and Grandparents!)

along with a Potassium pill every day, but I guess my level was so

low in there they couldn't get it up. They kept waking me up to take

my blood to check it. Same with my blood pressure. They took me off

my meds while in there and monitored me very closely. That could

have been from the Morphein and the Oxycontin they gave me for pain

though.

For women potassium is so important, my Grandmother ended up in the

hospital twice after passing out when her levels were so low!!

Sometimes diet just doesn't do it and you have to take a supplement.

Debi

>

> Robbie,

>

> Thanks for your advise.That is interesting about the

potassium.....before

> the surgery my blood work show low potassium and they gave me

several bags in

> the hospital. I have been trying to eat bananas and OJ per doc

orders. My

> family doctor wants me to come back in a few month to have my

levels checked

> again.

>

> I also know what you mean about water. water seems to be all I want

to

> drink. I was a big coffee drinker before the sugery. since the

sugery I have not

> had any...it just dosn't interest me.

>

> Kim

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, here are my two cents on potassium - they had

trouble getting blood out of me (tried 14 times one

day the nurses said that if the surgeon wants blood

they do everything to get it for him - my arm was

purple when I left the hospital). Anyway from the

testing they said my potassium was a little low and

gave me two big white pills at 4 in the morning. Two

days later after more testing they were nervous

because my potassium levels were too high for two

months afterwards I was not allowed to drink oj or

anything with high potassium levels. It was so

annoying since that left me with drinking only apple

juice in the hospital since I hate cranberry juice

lol.

~Contessica

--- reynawhitehawk <ReynaWhitehawk@...> wrote:

> I had a problem while in the hospital w/my potassium

> level too. The

> nurses kept me on an IV with it the entire 5 days I

> was there. I

> take high blood pressure meds (thanks Mom, Dad and

> Grandparents!)

> along with a Potassium pill every day, but I guess

> my level was so

> low in there they couldn't get it up. They kept

> waking me up to take

> my blood to check it. Same with my blood pressure.

> They took me off

> my meds while in there and monitored me very

> closely. That could

> have been from the Morphein and the Oxycontin they

> gave me for pain

> though.

>

> For women potassium is so important, my Grandmother

> ended up in the

> hospital twice after passing out when her levels

> were so low!!

> Sometimes diet just doesn't do it and you have to

> take a supplement.

>

> Debi

>

>

>

> >

> > Robbie,

> >

> > Thanks for your advise.That is interesting about

> the

> potassium.....before

> > the surgery my blood work show low potassium and

> they gave me

> several bags in

> > the hospital. I have been trying to eat bananas

> and OJ per doc

> orders. My

> > family doctor wants me to come back in a few month

> to have my

> levels checked

> > again.

> >

> > I also know what you mean about water. water seems

> to be all I want

> to

> > drink. I was a big coffee drinker before the

> sugery. since the

> sugery I have not

> > had any...it just dosn't interest me.

> >

> > Kim

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

This message ended up going to the whole group and

since it didn't seem too personal and would probably

be useful to everyone I'm replying there too. But

feel free to write me privately any time.

As a matter of fact, we have a great list of files in

our file section created by Bee that show the nutrient

content of foods.

Here's a direct link to the potassium info:

http://tinyurl.com/yjmhba

For future reference for anyone interested, under the

Files there is a folder called " Food Lists & Nutrient

Contents " that has lists of foods based on their

nutritional content (vitamin C, calcium, etc) and has

them ranked by the amount. Good stuff!

Of course as I'm sure you know potatoes aren't on this

plan, and I'd be careful with tomatoes.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Star dust <brownedskin@...> wrote:

> Hello Debby,

>

> I hope you don't mind me writing off the list and

> ask you a question.

>

> Do you know of where I can find information on a

> food to see if it contains

> potassium?

>

> As you can see I'm having a brain block, so here's

> what I would to find out:

>

> Tomatoes: potassium?

> Potatoes: potassium?

>

> Hope you can help.

>

> Maddalena

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

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[Guest guest]

Debby wrote:

>This message ended up going to the whole group and

>since it didn't seem too personal and would probably

>be useful to everyone I'm replying there too.

OOps, big mistake on my part. Sorry.

>For future reference for anyone interested, under the

>Files there is a folder called " Food Lists & Nutrient

>Contents " that has lists of foods based on their

>nutritional content (vitamin C, calcium, etc) and has

>them ranked by the amount. Good stuff!

I've checked this file it has a lot of valuable information for sure,

however, what I was looking for was a more specific information on which

food(s) my friend should avoid since he has high potassium. Also, what to

do to bring the potassium level back to normal agian.

>Of course as I'm sure you know potatoes aren't on this

>plan, and I'd be careful with tomatoes.

Another big mistake on my part for asking about the potatoes, yes, I'm aware

they are no-no for the candida diet.

I just can't seem to be doing anything right

lately.......................LOL

Thanks for your help.

Maddalena

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[Guest guest]

>Here's a direct link to the potassium info:

>http://tinyurl.com/yjmhba

Hello Debby,

I've the link you recommend for some reason I keep on getting the can't find

respond. Any idea on why it's happening?

Maddalena

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[Guest guest]

I don't know what to tell you about your friend. I

get 2700% the RDA for potassium daily, so obviously

it's not a bad thing. There is tons of potassium in

veggies.. nature does not have it wrong.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Star dust <brownedskin@...> wrote:

> I've checked this file it has a lot of valuable

> information for sure,

> however, what I was looking for was a more specific

> information on which

> food(s) my friend should avoid since he has high

> potassium. Also, what to

> do to bring the potassium level back to normal

> agian.

It is a lot easier to act ourselves into new thinking than to think ourselves

into a new action.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/