Coconut Oil

July 16, 2010

Hello Lois,

Some time ago, we did a survey on the group on various coconut oil brands and

their flavors. You can find it here:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/coconut5.php

Short answer: the coconut-ness of various oils will vary.

Hope this helps,

andra

group moderator

>

> I just finished a bottle of CO from Jarroe Formulas that is extra virgin

Organic,

> expelier pressed. It tasted just like coconut and very pleasant.

> I just opened a bottle from Spectrum Organic expeller pressed and it tastes

> like oil, not coconut oil.

> Should CO taste like coconut?

>

> Lois

>

August 19, 2010

>

> I purchased the Nutiva CO in the plastic jar but it seems to be leeching out!

Is it ok to transfer this to a glass container? or is it contaminated? I can see

the oil on the bottom is turning cloudy.

>

+++Hi KK,

It has not leached plastic from the jar!

Part of the oil in the jar can become a little cooler, so it looks cloudy, but

there is nothing wrong with it.

You can put it in a glass jar if you wish. I have Nutiva too and I don't

transfer it.

Bee

August 19, 2010

Hi Bee,

Just to follow up on this: Are you saying the plastic jars that some coconut

oils come in (i.e., Jarrow, Whole Foods, etc.) pose no threat of toxic leeching?

I have purposely avoided these brands for this very reason, and instead having

been paying more for brands that come in glass jars (Garden of Life), thinking

they were safer. I'm very interested to hear your response--it could save me a

lot of money over the course of a year. Thanks!

> >

> > I purchased the Nutiva CO in the plastic jar but it seems to be leeching

out! Is it ok to transfer this to a glass container? or is it contaminated? I

can see the oil on the bottom is turning cloudy.

> >

> +++Hi KK,

>

> It has not leached plastic from the jar!

>

> Part of the oil in the jar can become a little cooler, so it looks cloudy, but

there is nothing wrong with it.

>

> You can put it in a glass jar if you wish. I have Nutiva too and I don't

transfer it.

>

> Bee

>

August 19, 2010

The jar is slick on the outside so I know the oil has to be coming thru the

plastic. The WHOLE jar has oil on the outside of it.

> > >

> > > I purchased the Nutiva CO in the plastic jar but it seems to be leeching

out! Is it ok to transfer this to a glass container? or is it contaminated? I

can see the oil on the bottom is turning cloudy.

> > >

> > +++Hi KK,

> >

> > It has not leached plastic from the jar!

> >

> > Part of the oil in the jar can become a little cooler, so it looks cloudy,

but there is nothing wrong with it.

> >

> > You can put it in a glass jar if you wish. I have Nutiva too and I don't

transfer it.

> >

> > Bee

> >

>

August 20, 2010

> > >

> > > I purchased the Nutiva CO in the plastic jar but it seems to be leeching

out! Is it ok to transfer this to a glass container? or is it contaminated? I

can see the oil on the bottom is turning cloudy.

> > >

> > +++Hi KK,

> >

> > It has not leached plastic from the jar!

> >

> > Part of the oil in the jar can become a little cooler, so it looks cloudy,

but there is nothing wrong with it.

> >

> > You can put it in a glass jar if you wish. I have Nutiva too and I don't

transfer it.

> >

> > Bee

> >

>

August 20, 2010

>

> The jar is slick on the outside so I know the oil has to be coming thru the

plastic. The WHOLE jar has oil on the outside of it.

+++Hi there.

The reason there's oil on the outside of the plastic is NOT because it is coming

through the plastic, which is impossible.

It is because oil got on the outside from the top. Maybe a loose lid?

Bee

August 20, 2010

I believe the problem you're having is with physics, not plastic. When I used to

keep my olive oil on the counter, I noticed that the outside of the container

would become oily after a time in both plastic and glass jars. What it is, is we

just don't notice the slight amount of oil that gets on the jar lid, rim or edge

and drips down onto the outside. After some accumulates, then we notice. It

happens especially when the coconut oil liquifies.

I assure you that the plastic isn't leaking. To test my theory, go to the health

store and touch the sides of the plastic jars with coconut oil in them.

Nan

>Re: Coconut Oil

Posted by: " justlilolememe " justlilolememe@... justlilolememe

Thu Aug 19, 2010 11:40 pm (PDT)

The jar is slick on the outside so I know the oil has to be coming thru the

plastic. The WHOLE jar has oil on the outside of it.

August 20, 2010

>

> Hello Bee,

>

> During night time where i live it cools in the night making my CO go

> solid. Then during the next day its returning to about half liquid.

>

> Will this pose a problem with the CO, decreasing it's shelf life or

maybe making it go rancid quicker? It's not like freezing meat then

thawing and then refreezing cause the temps just drop's down to where the CO

goes solid. I'm not sure of the exact temp change as i don't have a therm that

has readings on it. My guessumption is it is fine, just wanna be safe.

>

> Thanks again..... Caine.....

>

@@ Hi Caine,

Your speculation is correct. Its fine. What you describe above, is not a

concern for Coconut oil going rancid before you get around to using it up.

The reasons for rancidity are below:

* Temperature: decomposition rate increases as temperature rises

* Time

* Light (photo oxidation): in the presence of oxygen, light

promotes oxidation of unsaturated fatty acids

* Water

* Catalysts: trace metal ions, metalloproteins and inorganic salts

Coconut oil has a very high heating temperature and the rest above do not apply

to Coconut Oil. Coconut may fluctuate as you describe without a problem, since

it is quite a resilient oil.

Journey onwards,

Ed

group moderator

August 21, 2010

Dear Caines,

Ed answered your question, but I want to point out that coconut oil is about

92.1% saturated fat, so it keeps well without being refrigerated for 2 years.

It doesn't matter whether it goes more solid and melts many times.

Bee

>

> Hello Bee,

>

> During night time where i live it cools in the night making my CO go

> solid. Then during the next day its returning to about half liquid.

>

> Will this pose a problem with the CO, decreasing it's shelf life or

> maybe making it go rancid quicker? It's not like freezing meat then

> thawing and then refreezing cause the temps just drop's down to where the CO

goes solid. I'm not sure of the exact temp change as i don't have a therm that

has readings on it. My guessumption is it is fine, just wanna be safe.

>

> Thanks again..... Caine.....

August 21, 2010

Hi Ed,

Thanks Ed for an awesome explanation.

Much appreciated... Caine.....

>

> @@ Hi Caine,

>

> Your speculation is correct. Its fine. What you describe above, is not

a concern for Coconut oil going rancid before you get around to using it

up.

>

> The reasons for rancidity are below:

>

> * Temperature: decomposition rate increases as temperature rises

> * Time

> * Light (photo oxidation): in the presence of oxygen, light

> promotes oxidation of unsaturated fatty acids

> * Water

> * Catalysts: trace metal ions, metalloproteins and inorganic salts

>

> Coconut oil has a very high heating temperature and the rest above do

not apply to Coconut Oil. Coconut may fluctuate as you describe without

a problem, since it is quite a resilient oil.

>

> Journey onwards,

> Ed

> group moderator

>

August 21, 2010

Hi Bee,

Thats good to know since my temps dip pretty cold during the night here.

Thanks again.... caine.....

>

> Dear Caines,

>

> Ed answered your question, but I want to point out that coconut oil is

about 92.1% saturated fat, so it keeps well without being refrigerated

for 2 years. It doesn't matter whether it goes more solid and melts many

times.

>

> Bee

>

August 21, 2010

Hi Bee and group -

Like Caine, my coconut oil is doing the same thing this hot summer -

so I was wondering the exact same thing. And I am relieved to know this

change in consistency does not affect it.

But I am also wondering one more thing -

I am pretty sure you will confirm that this does not affect it either,

but just want to make sure:

having the coconut oil travel in a suitcase and it being put in the

cargo compartment of an airplane ?

Not exactly sure how much temperature change that space is exposed to,

but I have to believe it is pretty extreme.

Will this exposure and resulting change in consistency affect the

quality of the CO ?

Thanks much,

Sincerely,

August 22, 2010

>

> Hi Bee and group -

>

> Like Caine, my coconut oil is doing the same thing this hot summer -

> so I was wondering the exact same thing. And I am relieved to know this

change in consistency does not affect it.

>

> But I am also wondering one more thing - I am pretty sure you will confirm

that this does not affect it either, but just want to make sure: having the

coconut oil travel in a suitcase and it being put in the cargo compartment of an

airplane ?

>

> Not exactly sure how much temperature change that space is exposed to, but I

have to believe it is pretty extreme. Will this exposure and resulting change in

consistency affect the quality of the CO ?

+++Hi ,

High temperatures in the cargo area will not affect the quality of CO at all.

However, you need to be cautious about scanners in airports, since they can

damage supplements, coconut oil, cod liver oil, etc.

To protect them from scanners, I wrap them in aluminum foil and put them inside

an insulated bag that is lined with aluminum foil. First, I put liquids a

sealed plastic bag in case of leakage.

Cod liver oil should be insulated by wrapping it with bubble wrap like iHerb

does when shipping it - with aluminum foil over it.

All the best, Bee

September 20, 2010

Hi Frances,

The important thing about coconut oil is that is be unbleached, unrefined, and

undeodorized. I think 365 is OK, but check the label. In general, ordering

coconut oil online is cheaper than buying it in the store, particularly at Whole

Foods.

If you have ever had burning in your throat or bowels before, you could be

retracing it. Also, be sure that you haven't increased your coconut oil amounts

too quickly. Some people have quite strong reactions and going slowly is

better.

Hope that helps,

andra

group moderator

>

> 1. I found unrefined coconut oil at whole foods. It's'by 365 organic. Is there

a better one I should be using, or is this ok?

>

> 2. Since beginning with coconut oil, which i rather like and tolerate pretty

well, i find that it can give me some acid in my throat after eating it, also I

find it burns a lot sometimes when I move my bowels. I don't mind it, but I am

wondering why this is happening and if this is good! Or does it mean I am doing

something wrong?

>

> At this point, i am not worrying about ratios, and sometimes I think I am

eating too much beef! But I feel great and am more worried about getting the

sugar and carbs out of my diet-and have reduced significantly. my constipation

is almost gone now i have boosted the coconut oil, so i don't want to cut down

on that.

>

> I will be back home in about two weeks and will read up more at that time, and

calculate the ratios, but I want to know if thr oil I am using is OK because I

can search for other kinds while i am still here in the city. I am hoping to lay

in a good supply before I go, as it will save me a lot in postage.

>

> Thanks for everything! Frances

>

September 20, 2010

>

> Hi, all!

> I have been a lurker on the list for a long time. I have read the many

reminders to read the articles for advice. I have read all the main articles

many times. I am working in New York City as a tour guide. The season is about

to end, and I want to stock up on coconut oil before returning to my home in

upstate NY. I have only recently begun on the program in earnest. I'm trying to

wean myself off carbs and sugar. As I am not home, I have only my phone to read

mails and have trouble accessing websites. I have a few questions, and I can't

really search the websites. So please excuse me for asking questions which might

be answered on the websites. Here goes-

+++Hi Frances. Welcome to our group.

>

> 1. I found unrefined coconut oil at whole foods. It's'by 365 organic. Is there

a better one I should be using, or is this ok?

+++People on this group find it is cheaper to buy almost all of the supplements

I recommend, along with Nutiva Coconut Oil from iHerb. If you haven't ordered

from iHerb previously, and you go through my website you get $5.00 off your

first order if you give them my Rewards Number (also I get some commissions from

such orders):

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/resource/iherb.php

>

> 2. Since beginning with coconut oil, which i rather like and tolerate pretty

well, i find that it can give me some acid in my throat after eating it, also I

find it burns a lot sometimes when I move my bowels. I don't mind it, but I am

wondering why this is happening and if this is good! Or does it mean I am doing

something wrong?

+++Coconut oil helps your body detoxify and toxins coming out can cause burning

sensations. That's why it is important to start with small amounts like 1

teaspoon 2-3 times a day, always with meals that contain meats or eggs, and

slowly increase them, maybe every 3-4 days. If you can tolerate the symptoms

carry on, since we cannot avoid all detox and healing reactions in order to get

healthy.

>

> At this point, i am not worrying about ratios, and sometimes I think I am

eating too much beef! But I feel great and am more worried about getting the

sugar and carbs out of my diet-and have reduced significantly. my constipation

is almost gone now i have boosted the coconut oil, so i don't want to cut down

on that.

+++Beef is very healthy, so do not be concerned. That's great you don't have

constipation. However, if you've had it in the past your body will still be

" retracing " every episode while it is healing itself, so you may expect that in

future - see this article to understand retracing:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/heal10.php

>

> I will be back home in about two weeks and will read up more at that time, and

calculate the ratios, but I want to know if thr oil I am using is OK because I

can search for other kinds while i am still here in the city. I am hoping to lay

in a good supply before I go, as it will save me a lot in postage.

+++I wouldn't know if 365 Coconut Oil is okay. Like andra advised it must

be unrefined, undeodorized, unbleached, and non-hydrogenated.

+++I'm in London, Ontario, which is a long ways from California where iHerb is

located, and I order from them. When my order is large enough it saves on

shipping costs. For about $300.00 worth I only paid $21.00 for shipping, plus

about $23.00 for duty and taxes (I order 4 of everything at a time). It still

saved me a lot of money compared to buying locally.

All the best, Bee

September 20, 2010

Hi Frances,

I am using Nutiva and don't know about the Whole Foods 365 Coconut Oil. But it

sounds expensive, since it is probably in a relatively small jar.

For the first time I will order now from " mountain rose herbs " . You find the

link on Bee;'s homepage.

They have 1 Gallon Virgin Coconut Oil for $39.00 plus shipping.

http://www.mountainroseherbs.com/bulkoil/a-c.php#oac_coc_u

This will still be cheaper than Whole Foods.

Pia