Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 So after my blood work on monday for renin/aldosterone, my cardio told me to start Tekturna, which is a renin-lowering bp med. Is this wise for me to take, if I suspect I have PA? Bridget Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Since PA's have low renin anyway it probably won't do a thing. There's not much there to supress. a > From: bridget <blueyes7648@...> > Subject: new bp med. > hyperaldosteronism > Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 11:16 AM > So after my blood work on monday for > renin/aldosterone, my cardio told me to start Tekturna, > which is a renin-lowering bp med. Is this wise for me to > take, if I suspect I have PA? > Bridget > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 thank you, that's what I kind of thought... Bridget > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@...> > > Subject: new bp med. > > hyperaldosteronism > > Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 11:16 AM > > So after my blood work on monday for > > renin/aldosterone, my cardio told me to start Tekturna, > > which is a renin-lowering bp med. Is this wise for me to > > take, if I suspect I have PA? > > Bridget > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 If your K is low all ready would seen this would make it lower. > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > Subject: new bp med. > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 11:16 AM > > > So after my blood work on monday for > > > renin/aldosterone, my cardio told me to start Tekturna, > > > which is a renin-lowering bp med. Is this wise for me to > > > take, if I suspect I have PA? > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Newest drug on the block so everyone wants to try it but should NOT WORK in PA if he reads the info on the drug. I would wait till results come back and take him my article. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 18, 2009, at 10:47 AM, bridget wrote: thank you, that's what I kind of thought... Bridget > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@...> > > Subject: new bp med. > > hyperaldosteronism > > Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 11:16 AM > > So after my blood work on monday for > > renin/aldosterone, my cardio told me to start Tekturna, > > which is a renin-lowering bp med. Is this wise for me to > > take, if I suspect I have PA? > > Bridget > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Tek should increase K if anything but not in PA. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 18, 2009, at 10:54 AM, Francis Bill wrote: If your K is low all ready would seen this would make it lower. > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > Subject: new bp med. > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 11:16 AM > > > So after my blood work on monday for > > > renin/aldosterone, my cardio told me to start Tekturna, > > > which is a renin-lowering bp med. Is this wise for me to > > > take, if I suspect I have PA? > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I would think until PA has been ruled out one should not take Tek. > > > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > > Subject: new bp med. > > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > > Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 11:16 AM > > > > > So after my blood work on monday for > > > > > renin/aldosterone, my cardio told me to start Tekturna, > > > > > which is a renin-lowering bp med. Is this wise for me to > > > > > take, if I suspect I have PA? > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 That assumes the Dr always follows rational therapy. I encourage my pts to learn as much as they can to keep me straight. Medical Rx should always be a two way interaction. You will note that many here finally got the correct Dx and Rx by becoming their own "Dr" and training their team. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 18, 2009, at 2:03 PM, jwwright wrote: Why bother going to the dr if you doubt his actions? new bp med. So after my blood work on monday for renin/aldosterone, my cardio told me to start Tekturna, which is a renin-lowering bp med. Is this wise for me to take, if I suspect I have PA?Bridget__________ NOD32 4389 (20090902) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 It might make a great test for PA but has not been studied that I can find. Should be much better than the captopril test of days of yore. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 18, 2009, at 2:14 PM, jwwright wrote: Francis, I think they use it as a test for PA. Regards Re: new bp med. I would think until PA has been ruled out one should not take Tek. > > > > > > thank you, that's what I kind of thought... > > > Bridget > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Thank you! That's what I was going to do, I have come to realize doctors are just people too and don't know everything, unless it's their specialty, in this case it is a cardiologist, who hadn't really heard that much on PA. Bridget > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > Subject: new bp med. > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 11:16 AM > > > > So after my blood work on monday for > > > > renin/aldosterone, my cardio told me to start Tekturna, > > > > which is a renin-lowering bp med. Is this wise for me to > > > > take, if I suspect I have PA? > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 The only reason he said to try that along with the Toprol was because I thought I was having icky side affects from the Lisinipril and that I was having facial flushing. He pretty much just told me that he is a cardiologist, not an endo, that is why I am heading to the endo as soon as I can get in. And one of the reasons I am on Toprol is because I have sinus tachycardia that they can't figure out why. Bridget > > > > > > > > > > thank you, that's what I kind of thought... > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 You'll know when: If it is low, most likely the test can come back " normal " but you'll probably have a hard time walking any distance and you may even notice your muscles visibly twitching. You'll may have leg cramps from simply activities like driving the car. You'll know, you'll see/feel the difference. I couldn't miss it when it happened to me, I couldn't maintain my daily routine/household. Again, running 10Km to having a hard time to keep up with the kids. You'll know if it is happening.... don't doubt test, listen to your body, you'll see. chores.nism , " jwwright " <jwwright@...> wrote: > > How do we know K is low if we doubt the blood test? > > Re: new bp med. > > > If your K is low all ready would seen this would make it lower. > > > > > > > > Since PA's have low renin anyway it probably won't do a thing. There's > not much there to supress. > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Many of your SX are the sams as others have that have PA. now T havent read every thing that may be on this site. And PA can have other SX. Some of what you have listed need a closer look by others that have PA. Here is her list of SX Do they all relate to PA? restless leg syndrome facial flushing ear pain/plugged/popping high blood pressure not controllable with meds. sinus tachycardia (fast heart rate) nasal swelling/pressure daily headaches migraines acne tired all the time fatigue ringing in my ears (tinnitus) dizziness blurred vision low potassium levels (still in normal range) high sodium levels (still in normal range) > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you, that's what I kind of thought... > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Why bother going to the dr if you doubt his actions? new bp med. So after my blood work on monday for renin/aldosterone, my cardio told me to start Tekturna, which is a renin-lowering bp med. Is this wise for me to take, if I suspect I have PA?Bridget__________ NOD32 4389 (20090902) Information __________This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system.http://www.eset.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 How do we know K is low if we doubt the blood test? Re: new bp med. If your K is low all ready would seen this would make it lower. > > > > Since PA's have low renin anyway it probably won't do a thing. There's not much there to supress. > > > > a > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Francis, I think they use it as a test for PA. Regards Re: new bp med. I would think until PA has been ruled out one should not take Tek. > > > > > > thank you, that's what I kind of thought... > > > Bridget > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Take him my article and tell him we are here to help.I have taught lots of Cards about PA. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 18, 2009, at 12:19 PM, bridget wrote: Thank you! That's what I was going to do, I have come to realize doctors are just people too and don't know everything, unless it's their specialty, in this case it is a cardiologist, who hadn't really heard that much on PA. Bridget > > > > > > > From: bridget <blueyes7648@> > > > > Subject: new bp med. > > > > hyperaldosteronism > > > > Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 11:16 AM > > > > So after my blood work on monday for > > > > renin/aldosterone, my cardio told me to start Tekturna, > > > > which is a renin-lowering bp med. Is this wise for me to > > > > take, if I suspect I have PA? > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 You really need a HTN specialist. Where do you live? I may know someone. Endos or Cards are generally are not too much into HTN. Suspect you were having an ACE reaction to the LisinoDo you have a cough or hives or swellings in your face? May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 18, 2009, at 12:26 PM, bridget wrote: The only reason he said to try that along with the Toprol was because I thought I was having icky side affects from the Lisinipril and that I was having facial flushing. He pretty much just told me that he is a cardiologist, not an endo, that is why I am heading to the endo as soon as I can get in. And one of the reasons I am on Toprol is because I have sinus tachycardia that they can't figure out why. Bridget > > > > > > > > > > thank you, that's what I kind of thought... > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 most do except acne. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 18, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Francis Bill wrote: Many of your SX are the sams as others have that have PA. now T havent read every thing that may be on this site. And PA can have other SX. Some of what you have listed need a closer look by others that have PA. Here is her list of SX Do they all relate to PA? restless leg syndrome facial flushing ear pain/plugged/popping high blood pressure not controllable with meds. sinus tachycardia (fast heart rate) nasal swelling/pressure daily headaches migraines acne tired all the time fatigue ringing in my ears (tinnitus) dizziness blurred vision low potassium levels (still in normal range) high sodium levels (still in normal range) > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you, that's what I kind of thought... > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 It is much better to get the patients complete story rather than just symptoms. Only way to know if they relate is to see if the go away with Rx once Dx is made. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 18, 2009, at 1:38 PM, Francis Bill wrote: Many of your SX are the sams as others have that have PA. now T havent read every thing that may be on this site. And PA can have other SX. Some of what you have listed need a closer look by others that have PA. Here is her list of SX Do they all relate to PA? restless leg syndrome facial flushing ear pain/plugged/popping high blood pressure not controllable with meds. sinus tachycardia (fast heart rate) nasal swelling/pressure daily headaches migraines acne tired all the time fatigue ringing in my ears (tinnitus) dizziness blurred vision low potassium levels (still in normal range) high sodium levels (still in normal range) > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you, that's what I kind of thought... > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I live in North Branch, Minnesota. That would be wonderful if you knew someone, I didn't know they existed.....I think that a lot of what I've been feeling has probably been due to all the different bp meds, I have a really bad reaction to Nifidepine, my bp was sky high and bouncing all over the place, the er docs thought it was just nervousness from going off the toprol, even after a month and a half....Now back on toprol and it's not doing a thing except settle my heart. Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you, that's what I kind of thought... > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 I did post my story a few days ago, not just the symptoms..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you, that's what I kind of thought... > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Bridget, there are so many messages, most people cannot remember what you said a few days ago. How to put your story in the files: Write your story in any manner you choose. If it is easier for you, just copy your messages you have already sent to the list, add Dr. Grim’s comments (if any) and paste them all to a Word file and save. Remember where you saved your story on your computer. On the Hyperaldosteronism main page, click on “Files” on the left Find the folder called “Conns Stories.” Click on “Add File” at the bottom right. Click “Browse” to find it on your computer. Type in a short description like “Joe’s story.” Click on the box to send a message to the group to notify them of the addition. 8. Click on “Upload File.” If you want to update your information, do the additions/corrections in the file on your computer. Then delete the file you previously uploaded to and re-upload per the instructions above. Only the original author can delete your story. If you try to upload your story with the same file name, won't allow a duplicate. Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of bridget I did post my story a few days ago, not just the symptoms..... > > It is much better to get the patients complete story rather than just > symptoms. > > Only way to know if they relate is to see if the go away with Rx once > Dx is made. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Sorry I must have missed it. Is it in the stories files on in an email? May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 18, 2009, at 4:04 PM, bridget wrote: I did post my story a few days ago, not just the symptoms..... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you, that's what I kind of thought... > > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2009 Report Share Posted October 18, 2009 Go to see Dr. Graves at Mayo. Tell him I am referring your. He may work with a more local person to help with long term management. Keep us posted. May your pressure be low!Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MDSpecializing in Primary Aldosteronism the most common cause of "Difficult/Drug Resistant High Blood Pressure". Other research interests focus on the interactions of recent evolutionary forces on the body's ability to handle salt and the effect of dietary salt on blood pressure in populations today.Listed in Best Doctors of America 2009. On Oct 18, 2009, at 4:02 PM, bridget wrote: I live in North Branch, Minnesota. That would be wonderful if you knew someone, I didn't know they existed.....I think that a lot of what I've been feeling has probably been due to all the different bp meds, I have a really bad reaction to Nifidepine, my bp was sky high and bouncing all over the place, the er docs thought it was just nervousness from going off the toprol, even after a month and a half....Now back on toprol and it's not doing a thing except settle my heart. Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank you, that's what I kind of thought... > > > > > > > Bridget > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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