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<< Does anyone else have a child with OCD and ADHD?

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Yes I do PLUS he has ODD!!

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original article:tae-bo_on/?start=9975

> my birthday is on the 23rd of February, and I

> am not looking forward to it...25 just seems so old to

> me.

Angie,

I know what you mean. I can remember turning 25 and thinking the same

thing, but 25 is really young. I was a little depressed because I

hadn't figured out what I wanted to do with my life at that point and I

remember thinking " I'm supposed to have this figured out by now....but

you know what, I still havent's figured it out and I've finally decided

that it's really not all that important. I'm a mother now, and that

has been my priority for the past year and probably will be for another

year or so (well, it will be for the rest of my life, but I'm talking

in terms of me also going back to work). At some point I know that I

will find what it is I was meant to do and what it is I will be HAPPY

doing. I know it's got to be something working with people and using

my life experiences to help others who may be going through the same

things I have gone through...preferably it will be working with kids.

I think I'd really like to be a teacher and maybe a Guidance Counselor

at some point...it's just a matter of going back to school and getting

my teacher certification. Anyway, my point is....don't let that whole

1/4 of a century thing bother you and don't stress out if you haven't

got it all figured out yet. We are all works in progress and we'll all

get it figured out eventually, so don't let the number bother you (sort

of like the scale). Age truly is a state of mind...you'll learn to

appreciated being the age you are because you have learned so much in

the years that you've been around, but your wise enough to know that

you've still got so much more to learn, too...does that make sense?

who remembers oh too well how it felt turning 25 and her theme song was

that 4 non blondes song that said " 25 years and my life is still,

trying to get up that great big hill... " but whose theme song now is

that poem that that put to music (can't think of the name) but it

starts off " Class of 1999, wear sunscreen " and it says something like

" don't worry if you haven't got it all figured out, some of the most

succesful people I know didn't know at 25 what they wanted to do with

the rest of their life and some of the most interesting people I know

still don't know what they want to do at 40 " (I'm paraphrasing really

badly here, but it's a great song)... :)

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" ang n. " <ree_2-@...> wrote:

original article:tae-bo_on/?start=9975

> my birthday is on the 23rd of February, and I

> am not looking forward to it...25 just seems so old to

> me.

Angie,

I know what you mean. I can remember turning 25 and thinking the same

thing, but 25 is really young. I was a little depressed because I

hadn't figured out what I wanted to do with my life at that point and I

remember thinking " I'm supposed to have this figured out by now....but

you know what, I still havent's figured it out and I've finally decided

that it's really not all that important. I'm a mother now, and that

has been my priority for the past year and probably will be for another

year or so (well, it will be for the rest of my life, but I'm talking

in terms of me also going back to work). At some point I know that I

will find what it is I was meant to do and what it is I will be HAPPY

doing. I know it's got to be something working with people and using

my life experiences to help others who may be going through the same

things I have gone through...preferably it will be working with kids.

I think I'd really like to be a teacher and maybe a Guidance Counselor

at some point...it's just a matter of going back to school and getting

my teacher certification. Anyway, my point is....don't let that whole

1/4 of a century thing bother you and don't stress out if you haven't

got it all figured out yet. We are all works in progress and we'll all

get it figured out eventually, so don't let the number bother you (sort

of like the scale). Age truly is a state of mind...you'll learn to

appreciated being the age you are because you have learned so much in

the years that you've been around, but your wise enough to know that

you've still got so much more to learn, too...does that make sense?

who remembers oh too well how it felt turning 25 and her theme song was

that 4 non blondes song that said " 25 years and my life is still,

trying to get up that great big hill... " but whose theme song now is

that poem that that put to music (can't think of the name) but it

starts off " Class of 1999, wear sunscreen " and it says something like

" don't worry if you haven't got it all figured out, some of the most

succesful people I know didn't know at 25 what they wanted to do with

the rest of their life and some of the most interesting people I know

still don't know what they want to do at 40 " (I'm paraphrasing really

badly here, but it's a great song)... :)

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In a message dated 4/27/00 8:11:30 PM Central Daylight Time,

jeepbaby@... writes:

<< Hi everyone,

I just sighed up for this group today, my friends call me JB. I just

thought I should introduce myself being that I'm new here. Well, I

guess that's it for now. Bye

JB~ >>

HI JB WELCOME GLAD YOU JOINED THE GROUP TELL US ABOUT YOURSELF

ROMIE

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In a message dated 4/27/00 8:11:18 PM Central Daylight Time,

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<<

Hi everyone,

I just sighed up for this group today, my friends call me JB. I just

thought I should introduce myself being that I'm new here. Well, I

guess that's it for now. Bye

JB~ >>

Welcome JB..Is that short for jeep baby??? lol.

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In a message dated 4/27/00 9:11:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

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<< Hi everyone,

I just sighed up for this group today, my friends call me JB. I just

thought I should introduce myself being that I'm new here. Well, I

guess that's it for now. Bye

JB~ >>

Welcome JB!

Tell us more about yourself!!

:)

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>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I just sighed up for this group today, my friends call me JB. I

just

> thought I should introduce myself being that I'm new here. Well, I

> guess that's it for now. Bye

>

> JB~

Hi, JB! Welcome to the group!!

Susi

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> I just sighed up for this group today, my friends call me JB. I

just

> thought I should introduce myself being that I'm new here. Well, I

> guess that's it for now. Bye

JB,

Welcome to the group! How long have you been doing tae-bo? This is

a great group.....lots of support and motivation! I look forward to

hearing more from you! Tell us about yourself!

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Hi JB

Welcome and join in!

At 12:36 AM 4/28/00 EDT, you wrote:

>In a message dated 4/27/00 8:11:18 PM Central Daylight Time,

>jeepbaby@... writes:

>

><<

> Hi everyone,

>

> I just sighed up for this group today, my friends call me JB. I just

> thought I should introduce myself being that I'm new here. Well, I

> guess that's it for now. Bye

>

> JB~ >>

>

>Welcome JB..Is that short for jeep baby??? lol.

>

>

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jeepbaby@... wrote:

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I just sighed up for this group today, my friends call me JB. I just

> thought I should introduce myself being that I'm new here. Well, I

> guess that's it for now. Bye

>

> JB~

Welcome JB! How long have you been doing taebo? What tapes do you do?

Where are your from? To read more about each of us, check out our web

site at http://taeboon.isportsdot.com/ under " meet the members " and

" Picture Gallery. "

Elena

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Welcome to the group JB! It can be very entertaining here at times, and

definetely informative.

Angie M

Re: New to group

> In a message dated 4/27/00 9:11:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> jeepbaby@... writes:

>

> << Hi everyone,

>

> I just sighed up for this group today, my friends call me JB. I just

> thought I should introduce myself being that I'm new here. Well, I

> guess that's it for now. Bye

>

> JB~ >>

>

> Welcome JB!

> Tell us more about yourself!!

> :)

>

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>

> Visit our new vault site http://taeboon.isportsdot.com/

>

>

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In a message dated 4/27/00 9:11:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jeepbaby@w... writes:

Hi everyone,

I just sighed up for this group today, my friends call me JB. I

just thought I should introduce myself being that I'm new here. Well,

I guess that's it for now. Bye

JB~

Welcome JB!

sorry I didn't welcome you before now--i think it was the middle of

the night here that I first saw your post!

where do you Live?

how old are you?

Which Tae-bo do you do?

are you Attatched? children? pets?

LOL

Looking forward to Seeing your posts,

Janet

who is Hyper Today!

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saws.

> > 1/3020/1/_/21226/_/956897538/

> >

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> >

> > As Deb has said: " Fitness is a journey and it begins with the

first step. "

> >

> > Visit our new vault site http://taeboon.isportsdot.com/

> >

> >

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In a message dated 4/27/00 9:11:22 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

jeepbaby@w... writes:

Hi everyone,

I just sighed up for this group today, my friends call me JB. I

just thought I should introduce myself being that I'm new here. Well,

I guess that's it for now. Bye

JB~

Welcome JB!

sorry I didn't welcome you before now--i think it was the middle of

the night here that I first saw your post!

where do you Live?

how old are you?

Which Tae-bo do you do?

are you Attatched? children? pets?

LOL

Looking forward to Seeing your posts,

Janet

who is Hyper Today!

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> > Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table

saws.

> > 1/3020/1/_/21226/_/956897538/

> >

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> >

> > As Deb has said: " Fitness is a journey and it begins with the

first step. "

> >

> > Visit our new vault site http://taeboon.isportsdot.com/

> >

> >

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ey JB, glad you're here...Nae

Re: New to group

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I just sighed up for this group today, my friends call me JB. I

just

> thought I should introduce myself being that I'm new here. Well, I

> guess that's it for now. Bye

>

> JB~

Hi, JB! Welcome to the group!!

Susi

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ey JB, glad you're here...Nae

Re: New to group

>

> Hi everyone,

>

> I just sighed up for this group today, my friends call me JB. I

just

> thought I should introduce myself being that I'm new here. Well, I

> guess that's it for now. Bye

>

> JB~

Hi, JB! Welcome to the group!!

Susi

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In a message dated 8/22/00 10:38:21 PM Mountain Daylight Time,

mom2boyz@... writes:

<< It's really hard with a young kid because you are never sure what is

going on in their head -- you can only guess and hope you are doing the right

thing. Anyway, I wanted to give some background info and introduce myself to

the group. Good luck to us all -- we need it!!!

Best regards, Carol

>>

Carol,

Your problems with your son sound exactly like the problems I had with my

daughter. She had the same symptoms beginning at the same age. Her

psychiatrist also thought she was bipolar and put her on Depakote with

disasterous results. Lithium had no effect at all on her negative behaviors.

It wasn't until we got a diagnosis of Tourette's at age nine and

subsequently put her on resperidal, that we were able to get the proper

medicine/help. I hope you get some help soon, it's very frustrating, and

definitely does not make our kids the most well loved in a school setting.

Jay in Colorado

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HI Carol,

Welcome to the group!

You wrote:

>Thank god for the medication because the therapy never made much of a

>difference. We are continuing to take him to therapy, but it's kind of

>hard when he won't even talk to the therapist unless it's about BASEBALL. <

The raporte with the therapist is so important. I often use a parellel in a

discussion (The way you cheer for your favourite player is how your mom is

going to cheer for you) but otherwise, it seems unfair to you and to Danny

to be spending therapeutic time on trivial subjects. Is it possible to bring

this matter up with the therapist? Can you make sure that ERP is being

discussed? Maybe you two can view what progress has been made? I cant stress

enough the value of being an educated consumer!

You didnt mention where you live. Perhaps someone here can recommend a

good therapist in your area?

Dont forget to take care of yourself!!

wendy in canada wb4@...

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Hi, I have found out that on most insurance policies if you just call

and ask they will work with you. It is so hard to find the right

therapist. If you have a friend that is recommending one, I would

check with your insurance to see if it would be covered.

My son is 15 and just recently been diagnosed with ocd, we are

looking into the meds and therapy.

Good Luck,

Chelsea

> new to group

>

>

> My daughter is 13 and she has OCD. As a toddler she

> could not go to sleep without a bedtime story even if we arrived

home

> in the middle of the night and she had fallen asleep in the car.

> About three years ago, we began to get concerned when she would

have

> to align her closet doors just so before she could go to sleep.

There

> were some other routines and after waiting for six months we got

into

> see a psychiatrist. At this point there had been some improvement

> and we were told there was no need for follow up.

> Last year was a hard one for in grade 7. Her teacher

> was very demanding and although she learned a lot, was very

> stressed, and the bedtime routine kept getting longer and more

> involved and again we sought help. Saw two psychologists and a

> psychiatrist. First psychologist suggested we set more limits.

> Psychiatrist wanted to start meds right away and as we did not

want

> to do that as first line, referred us to second psychologist, who

> actually started some behavior therapy. This was looking good

when

> on our third session she gave us a list of resources and did not

> schedule a follow up, implying we could handle this ourselves.

> This last visit was just before summer and over the summer,

> without school, things were manageable. Now that school has

started

> again, the bedtime routine is out of control and is

exhausted

> from lack of sleep.

> has to fix her room, fix the bathroom, and brushing

> teeth and washing self takes forever. Sometimes she starts

> organizing the downstairs too, arranging cushions, lining up

shoes,

> locking doors, pushing closet doors just so. . . When I try to

stop

> her, she gets more upset. spends upwards of an hour in the

> bathroom. Unless my husband stands at the door encouraging her to

> finish up, she will stay in there. One night, we all went to bed

and

> were hoping eventually she would come out herself. At 2 a.m. she

was

> still in there.

> On some nights, things are not too bad, but when is

> stressed or tired, the routine can take up to 2 ½ hours.

> Naturally one of us can sleep before she is finally in her bed.

> Moving the bedtime earlier does not help-it just ends up taking

> longer. Many nights, she goes to bed sobbing. I feel like doing

the

> same or else running away from home.

> We have just started on 10 mg of celexa. This will be

> increased to 20 mg and then we will see. This is step one, but I

am

> not sure what will come next. I know she needs therapy, but I am

not

> sure when, who, and how. We had to start back with our

pediatrician

> again as one can never see a specialist without a referral.

> I am encouraged reading the postings here, but at the same

> time, feel overwhelmed by the frustration others are

experiencing.

> This is not a disease that a week of antibiotic therapy will

> cure-how I wish it were just an ear infection.

>

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Hi Berky:

Thanks for posting about yourself and your daughter and your struggles to

get good treatment for her. Many of us on the list have also experienced

very similar struggles.

Whereabouts in Canada do you live? knows about resources in Ottawa

and I have done some extensive research about treatment resources in

Vancouver for my nephew who lives there. We also have Shellie who knows

about resources in .

Do you have Dr. March and Mulle's book, " Obsessive Compulsive

Disorder in Children and Adolescents? " IF you daughter gets competently

applied CBT based on this book and responds well to Celexa at an OCD

appropriate dosage (usually about 3 times the dosage for depression), you

will see her regain control of her life and be able to boss OCD back into

the background of her (and your) lives. Please know that the amount of

recovery possible is amazing. OUr son Steve was very sick with OCD, pretty

much constantly ritualizing and/or obsessing and with treatment his

symptoms are much more manageable and he has learned how to boss back to an

impressive degree.

Take care, aloha, Kathy (H)

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At 01:31 AM 11/21/2000 +0000, you wrote:

> My daughter is 13 and she has OCD. As a toddler she

>could not go to sleep without a bedtime story even if we arrived home

>in the middle of the night and she had fallen asleep in the car.

>About three years ago, we began to get concerned when she would have

>to align her closet doors just so before she could go to sleep. There

>were some other routines and after waiting for six months we got into

>see a psychiatrist. At this point there had been some improvement

>and we were told there was no need for follow up.

> Last year was a hard one for in grade 7. Her teacher

>was very demanding and although she learned a lot, was very

>stressed, and the bedtime routine kept getting longer and more

>involved and again we sought help. Saw two psychologists and a

>psychiatrist. First psychologist suggested we set more limits.

>Psychiatrist wanted to start meds right away and as we did not want

>to do that as first line, referred us to second psychologist, who

>actually started some behavior therapy. This was looking good when

>on our third session she gave us a list of resources and did not

>schedule a follow up, implying we could handle this ourselves.

> This last visit was just before summer and over the summer,

>without school, things were manageable. Now that school has started

>again, the bedtime routine is out of control and is exhausted

>from lack of sleep.

> has to fix her room, fix the bathroom, and brushing

>teeth and washing self takes forever. Sometimes she starts

>organizing the downstairs too, arranging cushions, lining up shoes,

>locking doors, pushing closet doors just so. . . When I try to stop

>her, she gets more upset. spends upwards of an hour in the

>bathroom. Unless my husband stands at the door encouraging her to

>finish up, she will stay in there. One night, we all went to bed and

>were hoping eventually she would come out herself. At 2 a.m. she was

>still in there.

> On some nights, things are not too bad, but when is

>stressed or tired, the routine can take up to 2 ½ hours.

>Naturally one of us can sleep before she is finally in her bed.

>Moving the bedtime earlier does not help­it just ends up taking

>longer. Many nights, she goes to bed sobbing. I feel like doing the

>same or else running away from home.

> We have just started on 10 mg of celexa. This will be

>increased to 20 mg and then we will see. This is step one, but I am

>not sure what will come next. I know she needs therapy, but I am not

>sure when, who, and how. We had to start back with our pediatrician

>again as one can never see a specialist without a referral.

> I am encouraged reading the postings here, but at the same

>time, feel overwhelmed by the frustration others are experiencing.

>This is not a disease that a week of antibiotic therapy will

>cure­how I wish it were just an ear infection.

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Hello Berky, please don't be overwhelmed by the problems and

frustrations that are posted here. It's a support group and so you

might expect to read posts from parents of kids who are having

problems. One of the nice things here is, no matter what baffling or

bizarre situation is going on in your home, you can bet it's familiar

to someone on the list, who will likely have some good suggestions.

Working out treatment for OCD can be frustrating, but nowhere near as

frustrating as living with untreated OCD. I wish for side-effectless

SSRIs and other meds which work as easily and quickly as antibiotics

too! I imagine most of us do :-)

But the meds--and Exposure and Response Prevention therapy--can work

miracles for our kids, allowing them to gain their lives back from

OCD's grip. In addition to the posts about the kids who are having

problems, there are also many which detail our kids' improvement and

recovery.

Keep us posted as you and your daughter begin your journey to

overcoming OCD. Welcome to the group Berky. :-)

Kathy R. in Indiana

> I am encouraged reading the postings here, but at the same

> time, feel overwhelmed by the frustration others are experiencing.

> This is not a disease that a week of antibiotic therapy will

> cure–how I wish it were just an ear infection.

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Hi Marla, Welcome! I am Terry, Mom to , 13 yrs (almost 14) with Down

Syndrome and autism. (also Mom to , , Sara and Garrett (mostly

grown and gone with kids of their own and wife to , my dh who really

is a super guy!). I remember how happy I was to find this group....everybody

has been very supportive and I have gotten a lot of really good information

since I joined a couple of months ago. Enjoy!

Terry

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In a message dated 1/8/01 7:12:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

MBeerb9414@... writes:

<< Hello,

My name is Marla mother to who is 18 annd has Down Syndrome and

Autism. I am also mother to Trey who is 10 and wife to Harold. I am so

happy to find this group. I have never met anyone with a child with the same

diagnosis as . I am open to any advice that all of you woderful parents

can share with me.

Marla >>

Hello and welcome Marla. Love your name! I've been here almost one year and

have more questions now than I did then. LOL One thing for sure, just when

you think you have something figured out, along comes another point of view

that makes you open your mind a little further. In the short time I have

been here, I have learned that there is no *one way*, not even two of our

kids are alike, and there are more treatments and ways of teaching than there

are kids! LOL Nice to have you here Marla and I look forward to hearing

more about you and your family. :-)

Gail, Mom to; Seth-4 DS/ASD/PDD/PICA, jo-8, Becky-10, -23, Jen-25,

Grandma to Errick-4 and wife to -my hero

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Hey Leah,

Why for the new e-mail address? When I was scanning the posts, I almost

didn't recognize you!

Terry

Mom to , 13 yrs.

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marla,

i extend a warm and hearty welcome to you and your family........ please

feel free to join in and share with us..... leah-mom to ashton 9ds-pdd and

cameron 5-just hellbent on election to make me gray before my 29th

birthday.....hyheehhe

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>Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 00:03:54 -0000

>

>Hello,

>My name is Marla mother to who is 18 annd has Down Syndrome and

>Autism. I am also mother to Trey who is 10 and wife to Harold. I am so

>happy to find this group. I have never met anyone with a child with the

>same diagnosis as . I am open to any advice that all of you woderful

>parents can share with me.

>

>

>

>Marla

>

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