Questions

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Kris " <akdelgado@...>

>Is SID " real " ? Is it a real disorder that can be helped or is it a

personality type?

*****It's not included in the DSM and so doesn't officially " exist " .

Doctors can't diagnose it. Plenty of folks here know it definitely exists

however, having coped with their sensory kids in some cases from birth.

There's some debate whether this is a (anxiety) disorder unto itself, or

just an early manifestation of OCD with O's and C's focused on sensory

issues. I don't believe it's thought to be a personality type or disorder.

It can be helped: SSRIs and or atypical antipsychotics sometimes lessen the

sensory problems, ERP therapy can reduce/eliminate specific troubles such as

tolerating sock seams etc., and lastly Occupational Therapy has been

successful in " integrating " a child's sensory systems and so relieving

symptoms.

>Did your child have unusual prenatal and/or birth circumstances? Can

such situations cause OCD?

*****I was 36 when my dd was born, and had experienced several miscarriages.

I was on total bedrest the last month of pregnancy due to elevated blood

pressure, my daughter was breech and a version attempt failed, she was

delivered by scheduled C-section, her head was trapped briefly during

delivery, and she required significant resucitation efforts to establish

breathing.

It's known that infection and physical trauma can cause OCD, but whether any

of these things I mention (or other prenatal or birth circumstances) can

cause it is I believe unknown at this time. OCD is thought to be at least

partly genetic, and a child is born with a susceptibility for it.

>Even long before OCD was considered or diagnosed, did you feel that

something about your child was " off " ...a square peg in a round hole?

*****My child was almost too good to be true. She was advanced in many

areas, slept well, ate well, was perfectly behaved, smart, reasonable,

pleasant--we had no concerns for her of any type prior to her onset. She

developed OCD suddenly following a strep infection at age four.

Kathy R. in Indiana

[Guest guest]

FYI: A DSM code relates to mental health diagnoses and ICD 9 codes

relate to medical diagnoses. SID has no code (is not recognized as a

disease entity by the APA or AMA), and is therefore not

reimbursable. I successfully used my son's hypotonia as a diagnosis

to get reimbursed for his OT that treated his handwriting

difficulties and his SID. It would be terrific if research could

demonstrate a strong relation between OCD and SID and successful

treatment of SID with OT for the purpose of reimbursement. Then our

kids could get both and be treated in a more comprehensive way.

Perhaps there are some out there who might take a gander at the ICD 9

codes to see if there are any applicable and hence reimbursable.

Bonnie

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Kris " <akdelgado@e...>

>

> >Is SID " real " ? Is it a real disorder that can be helped or is it a

> personality type?

>

> *****It's not included in the DSM and so doesn't

officially " exist " .

> Doctors can't diagnose it. Plenty of folks here know it definitely

exists

> however, having coped with their sensory kids in some cases from

birth.

> There's some debate whether this is a (anxiety) disorder unto

itself, or

> just an early manifestation of OCD with O's and C's focused on

sensory

> issues. I don't believe it's thought to be a personality type or

disorder.

>

> It can be helped: SSRIs and or atypical antipsychotics sometimes

lessen the

> sensory problems, ERP therapy can reduce/eliminate specific

troubles such as

> tolerating sock seams etc., and lastly Occupational Therapy has

been

> successful in " integrating " a child's sensory systems and so

relieving

> symptoms.

>

> >Did your child have unusual prenatal and/or birth circumstances?

Can

> such situations cause OCD?

>

> *****I was 36 when my dd was born, and had experienced several

miscarriages.

> I was on total bedrest the last month of pregnancy due to elevated

blood

> pressure, my daughter was breech and a version attempt failed, she

was

> delivered by scheduled C-section, her head was trapped briefly

during

> delivery, and she required significant resucitation efforts to

establish

> breathing.

>

> It's known that infection and physical trauma can cause OCD, but

whether any

> of these things I mention (or other prenatal or birth

circumstances) can

> cause it is I believe unknown at this time. OCD is thought to be

at least

> partly genetic, and a child is born with a susceptibility for it.

>

> >Even long before OCD was considered or diagnosed, did you feel that

> something about your child was " off " ...a square peg in a round hole?

>

> *****My child was almost too good to be true. She was advanced in

many

> areas, slept well, ate well, was perfectly behaved, smart,

reasonable,

> pleasant--we had no concerns for her of any type prior to her

onset. She

> developed OCD suddenly following a strep infection at age four.

>

> Kathy R. in Indiana

[Guest guest]

FYI: A DSM code relates to mental health diagnoses and ICD 9 codes

relate to medical diagnoses. SID has no code (is not recognized as a

disease entity by the APA or AMA), and is therefore not

reimbursable. I successfully used my son's hypotonia as a diagnosis

to get reimbursed for his OT that treated his handwriting

difficulties and his SID. It would be terrific if research could

demonstrate a strong relation between OCD and SID and successful

treatment of SID with OT for the purpose of reimbursement. Then our

kids could get both and be treated in a more comprehensive way.

Perhaps there are some out there who might take a gander at the ICD 9

codes to see if there are any applicable and hence reimbursable.

Bonnie

>

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: " Kris " <akdelgado@e...>

>

> >Is SID " real " ? Is it a real disorder that can be helped or is it a

> personality type?

>

> *****It's not included in the DSM and so doesn't

officially " exist " .

> Doctors can't diagnose it. Plenty of folks here know it definitely

exists

> however, having coped with their sensory kids in some cases from

birth.

> There's some debate whether this is a (anxiety) disorder unto

itself, or

> just an early manifestation of OCD with O's and C's focused on

sensory

> issues. I don't believe it's thought to be a personality type or

disorder.

>

> It can be helped: SSRIs and or atypical antipsychotics sometimes

lessen the

> sensory problems, ERP therapy can reduce/eliminate specific

troubles such as

> tolerating sock seams etc., and lastly Occupational Therapy has

been

> successful in " integrating " a child's sensory systems and so

relieving

> symptoms.

>

> >Did your child have unusual prenatal and/or birth circumstances?

Can

> such situations cause OCD?

>

> *****I was 36 when my dd was born, and had experienced several

miscarriages.

> I was on total bedrest the last month of pregnancy due to elevated

blood

> pressure, my daughter was breech and a version attempt failed, she

was

> delivered by scheduled C-section, her head was trapped briefly

during

> delivery, and she required significant resucitation efforts to

establish

> breathing.

>

> It's known that infection and physical trauma can cause OCD, but

whether any

> of these things I mention (or other prenatal or birth

circumstances) can

> cause it is I believe unknown at this time. OCD is thought to be

at least

> partly genetic, and a child is born with a susceptibility for it.

>

> >Even long before OCD was considered or diagnosed, did you feel that

> something about your child was " off " ...a square peg in a round hole?

>

> *****My child was almost too good to be true. She was advanced in

many

> areas, slept well, ate well, was perfectly behaved, smart,

reasonable,

> pleasant--we had no concerns for her of any type prior to her

onset. She

> developed OCD suddenly following a strep infection at age four.

>

> Kathy R. in Indiana

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Here's what a GOOGLE search gave me when I inputed neurotin.

" Pronounced NUHR-on-tin (and sometimes misspelled as Neurotin)

Neurontin is newly on the market and it is used for preventing seizures and

recently as a mood stabilizer (in the same way that tegretol is both

anti-seizure and anti-mania). Neurontin is sedating, so this side effect may

be used to reduce anxiety and overcome insomnia.

also is primarly prescribed and purchased for treatment of: (a) partial

seizures (seizures that begin in a limited area of the brain) and ( pain

which results from herpes or shingles. "

********************

Now I'd like to know why you're on this? Just curious.

I am on mestinon because it helps reduce the muscle fatigue feelings aka

weakness. However, it can't give me extra strength or return what I lost, but

it aids my existing abilities to function good enough to enable me to do what

I want. I do things differently because of my new weaknesses, and the

mestinon gives me the sense or feel that I can still do things only now I got

to do it in a new way / approach differently. I take 30mg/day, morning to

kick start my day then I coast the rest away on my own power. If tempted, I

will take another 30mg if my day runs too long (say beyond 12 hours; awake

7am and I plan on going out after work, so at 6pm I pop a pill and go till

bedtime, say 11pm). This gives me a smooth, functional day.

Questions? Ask me and I will explain more.

Angie

On 2005.09.21 17:16, sodexhodave wrote:

> can ya'll answers some questions ? any of yall ever had a ivig? i

> know they are costly but if you did have it did it work?? i know this

> disease effects everyone different with me its wasting my muscles in

> my right arm and my left leg they are the worst. anyone taking

> neurotin? does it help better in higher doses? i'm taking 1800mgs it

> helps a little but no use to my hands is this a disability

> disease? sorry for the questions But i gotta know thankx ya'll

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Our rehab doctors prescribe it a lot for nerve pain.

Lori

Angie wrote:

> Here's what a GOOGLE search gave me when I inputed neurotin.

>

> " Pronounced NUHR-on-tin (and sometimes misspelled as Neurotin)

>

> Neurontin is newly on the market and it is used for preventing

> seizures and

> recently as a mood stabilizer (in the same way that tegretol is both

> anti-seizure and anti-mania). Neurontin is sedating, so this side

> effect may

> be used to reduce anxiety and overcome insomnia.

>

> also is primarly prescribed and purchased for treatment of: (a) partial

> seizures (seizures that begin in a limited area of the brain) and (

> pain

> which results from herpes or shingles. "

>

> ********************

>

> Now I'd like to know why you're on this? Just curious.

>

> I am on mestinon because it helps reduce the muscle fatigue feelings aka

> weakness. However, it can't give me extra strength or return what I

> lost, but

> it aids my existing abilities to function good enough to enable me to

> do what

> I want. I do things differently because of my new weaknesses, and the

> mestinon gives me the sense or feel that I can still do things only

> now I got

> to do it in a new way / approach differently. I take 30mg/day, morning to

> kick start my day then I coast the rest away on my own power. If

> tempted, I

> will take another 30mg if my day runs too long (say beyond 12 hours;

> awake

> 7am and I plan on going out after work, so at 6pm I pop a pill and go

> till

> bedtime, say 11pm). This gives me a smooth, functional day.

>

> Questions? Ask me and I will explain more.

>

> Angie

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Gayla,

I think I got the same message as you did. I think maybe the person is

email all listmembers privately with a Bcc?

~

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The water is essential. I keep a bottle at my desk and another in my car

(as I¹m on the road a lot). I refill them at the water coolers in our

various offices and toss them every day or two before the bacteria builds

up. Sports drinks are loaded with calories and will slow your process. I

only drink them if I¹m actually participating in a sport, or doing hard work

in the yard and it¹s over 90 here. I don¹t count golf or power lifting as

a sport as there is no aerobic activity to speak of. (coming from an

elitist old rugby player...now that¹s a sport) There other thing they¹re

good for is if you are sick and have diarrhea, they¹re good for replacing

electrolytes. Forget the diet Pepsi that will hinder your progress. It¹s

my understanding the coffee can as well, but it¹s my drug of choice and I¹m

willing to pay the consequences for that one. I will get a non-fat latte

with an equal in it or use the Trader Joe¹s fat free half and half with an

equal at home. As far and the cream of wheat is concerned, it¹s not on the

list and I personally haven¹t eaten it in so long I can¹t remember what¹s in

it.

On 1/7/06 3:52 AM, " Littlestthings " <LittlestThings@...> wrote:

> I'm new at this and have a few questions.

>

> I was a big Diet Pepsi and coffee fan. I have totally cut out the soda and

> have limited my coffee. I drink two cups to jump start my day. I use fat

> free half and half and two packets of Equal. Is this acceptable?

>

> I started to drink water. I did fine the first few days but find the last

> couple of days I'm starting to cringe at the sight of it. lol Can I drink a

> sports drink to replace one or two glasses of water? My daughter has

> introduced me to Propel and I love the grape flavor.

>

> Are there any thoughts on having cream of wheat for breakfast? I need

> something fast in the morning and being it's winter I like the hot cereals. I

> eat oatmeal but love cream of wheat. Is this ok?

>

> Thank you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi there! If you have to have the coffee to jump start you in the

morning, fat free creamer and equal is probably the way to go on

it. But what I personally found with my first challenge, is that

the farther into the program I got, the more energy I had, and the

less external pick-me-ups were needed in the morning to jump-start

my day.

Cream of when is fine for breakfast. There is actually a recipe in

the EFL book that uses cream of wheat, and mixes vanilla protein

powder in it. That would make it a complete meal that way, so it's

not just all carbs.

Liz

>

> I'm new at this and have a few questions.

>

> I was a big Diet Pepsi and coffee fan. I have totally cut out the

soda and have limited my coffee. I drink two cups to jump start my

day. I use fat free half and half and two packets of Equal. Is

this acceptable?

>

> I started to drink water. I did fine the first few days but find

the last couple of days I'm starting to cringe at the sight of it.

lol Can I drink a sports drink to replace one or two glasses of

water? My daughter has introduced me to Propel and I love the grape

flavor.

>

> Are there any thoughts on having cream of wheat for breakfast? I

need something fast in the morning and being it's winter I like the

hot cereals. I eat oatmeal but love cream of wheat. Is this ok?

>

> Thank you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ok, maybe I'm in the minority, but I think you're crazy for cutting

out your caffeine. Bill recommends black coffee before cardio

because caffeine is a thermogenic and a performance enhancer. It

actually improves the intensity of your workout and helps with fat

loss. I just read about a study where people on a four-week calorie

restricted diet who had 300mg of caffeine (2 1/2 cups of coffee) a day

lost a pound a week more than people who did the calorie restricted

diet without caffeine.

Here's my take on Caffeine and Carbonation:

http://www.skwigg.com/id59.html

Low calorie or zero calorie flavored waters are ok. Propel isn't bad

once in awhile because it only has like 15 cals, but stay far away

from sports drinks like Gatorade that contain a lot of calories and

sugar. They'll wreck your calorie deficit. Some people also flavor

their water with lemon juice or Crystal Light.

Cream of Wheat is ok as long as it's balanced with a protein portion.

On 1/7/06, Littlestthings <LittlestThings@...> wrote:

> I'm new at this and have a few questions.

>

> I was a big Diet Pepsi and coffee fan. I have totally cut out the soda and

have limited my coffee. I drink two cups to jump start my day. I use fat free

half and half and two packets of Equal. Is this acceptable?

>

> I started to drink water. I did fine the first few days but find the last

couple of days I'm starting to cringe at the sight of it. lol Can I drink a

sports drink to replace one or two glasses of water? My daughter has introduced

me to Propel and I love the grape flavor.

>

> Are there any thoughts on having cream of wheat for breakfast? I need

something fast in the morning and being it's winter I like the hot cereals. I

eat oatmeal but love cream of wheat. Is this ok?

>

> Thank you.

[Guest guest]

osdbmom wrote:

from dale,

, do the lab reports give the " normal " range? Because every lab

has somewhat different testing -- until you can compare it to a " normal "

range it's not of a lot of value. Yes, the numbers seem low to me --

but the values are dependent upon what is " normal " for that lab and that

particular age group.

If it turns out that she's low on IgG plus low on either IgA or IgM --

then the diagnosis (by definition) usually turns out to be

hypogammaglobulanemia -- or CVID - Common Variable Immune Deficiency --

same thing -- just two different names to confuse people!

Hope that helps.

In His service,

Dale

[Guest guest]

osdbmom wrote:

>

> I hope I didnt seem offensive in the other two posts today. That wasnt

> my intention. I hope things were taken in spirit in which they were

> written.

from dale,

I also hope that they were taken as intended. It is very valid and

important point to make. Many, many prayers are prayed on behalf of

many, many people -- some are healed and some are not. Does that mean

that prayer is ineffective? No. It means that we are subject to God's

will and direction for each life. Then why pray? Because it does

several things: it puts us in partnership with God to see His will

accomplished. it tunes our lives so that we can walk closer to Him.

and when we spend time in prayer we begin to see God's heart and

understand even when His will is different from our own.

So, if you've been praying for healing -- and God hasn't accomplished

that in your life, or the life of your child, I hope that you will

continue to pray and draw near to the One who understands and knows you

best and knows what is best for all.

In His service,

Dale

[Guest guest]

Yes, as a precaution, mostly.

I get mold on my sprouts regularly if I don't use a GSE wash somewhere along

the line. Especially the wheat grass that I grow to juice in the Z Star

(I'm just starting to do wheat grass on a regular basis).

I do also use it in a spray bottle for various uses. One thing I do is take

a bath with it in the water after showering for 5 minutes every now and

then. Just for maintenance. You're not supposed to leave it on your skin for

too long, it will dry out your skin. Or I'll spray it on after a shower, wait

a minute and rinse.

You can read various info online about it's uses and benefits. Two good

sites for information on GSE :

_http://www.pureliquidgold.com/_ (http://www.pureliquidgold.com/)

_http://air-water-nutrition-healthsmart.com/open/product_info/grapefruit_seed_

extract.htm_

(http://air-water-nutrition-healthsmart.com/open/product_info/grapefruit_seed_ex\

tract.htm)

Keep smilin

Jerry

[Guest guest]

Hi Sacora,

Breana's last blood at NIH showed almost no C4. Lots more testing being done.

She also has very low IGD. Always has been low in both tests but they saw a

decrease in labs from August till Feb. We are returning to NIH for more coplete

testing becuaswe Breana has underlying UNDX nero issues which even her great

team of Doc's here in Boston are unsure whats goign on .

mom to Breana 5

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " Sacora " <sacoracasselman@...>

[Guest guest]

,

See mine are high in all of them, I wonder what the difference is?What is UNDX

nero?Is the IgA,Igg, IgM, Ige all normal or does she have issues with that as

well?They are having both me and my son see immunologist, and a genetic

specialist when we go back. When do you return to the NIH? We are going back the

end of June first of July. What are all her symtpoms? I am sorry I hate when

kids are ill and theres nothing we can do and the doctors are not sure why they

are sick.

Sacora mom of Nicolas 12

gt4990@... wrote:

Hi Sacora,

Breana's last blood at NIH showed almost no C4. Lots more testing being done.

She also has very low IGD. Always has been low in both tests but they saw a

decrease in labs from August till Feb. We are returning to NIH for more coplete

testing becuaswe Breana has underlying UNDX nero issues which even her great

team of Doc's here in Boston are unsure whats goign on .

mom to Breana 5

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " Sacora " <sacoracasselman@...>

[Guest guest]

hi,

we are supposed to be going back June 19th but i am having issues....very

frustrated right now. we too are going back to immunologist. I will detail

later....crazy night think I'm getting sick UGH

Re: Questions

,

See mine are high in all of them, I wonder what the difference is?What is

UNDX nero?Is the IgA,Igg, IgM, Ige all normal or does she have issues with that

as well?They are having both me and my son see immunologist, and a genetic

specialist when we go back. When do you return to the NIH? We are going back the

end of June first of July. What are all her symtpoms? I am sorry I hate when

kids are ill and theres nothing we can do and the doctors are not sure why they

are sick.

Sacora mom of Nicolas 12

gt4990@... wrote:

Hi Sacora,

Breana's last blood at NIH showed almost no C4. Lots more testing being done.

She also has very low IGD. Always has been low in both tests but they saw a

decrease in labs from August till Feb. We are returning to NIH for more coplete

testing becuaswe Breana has underlying UNDX nero issues which even her great

team of Doc's here in Boston are unsure whats goign on .

mom to Breana 5

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " Sacora " <sacoracasselman@...>

[Guest guest]

Hello,

What type of issues with ?? SHe just don't seem to have it all together.

Before we left we had appointments with all of them, so i emailed her to ask her

and she said no she didnt think we needed them so she was going to cancell all

those appointments then after meeting all the doctors they wanted those

appointments, they we could of did. There has been some issues with her too.The

doctor said at least 2 no longer then 3 and she saying end of June but probably

July. So who knows what is going to happen.Yeah everyone in my house is sick

too.

sacora

<gt4990@...> wrote:

hi,

we are supposed to be going back June 19th but i am having issues....very

frustrated right now. we too are going back to immunologist. I will detail

later....crazy night think I'm getting sick UGH

Re: Questions

,

See mine are high in all of them, I wonder what the difference is?What is

UNDX nero?Is the IgA,Igg, IgM, Ige all normal or does she have issues with that

as well?They are having both me and my son see immunologist, and a genetic

specialist when we go back. When do you return to the NIH? We are going back the

end of June first of July. What are all her symtpoms? I am sorry I hate when

kids are ill and theres nothing we can do and the doctors are not sure why they

are sick.

Sacora mom of Nicolas 12

gt4990@... wrote:

Hi Sacora,

Breana's last blood at NIH showed almost no C4. Lots more testing being done.

She also has very low IGD. Always has been low in both tests but they saw a

decrease in labs from August till Feb. We are returning to NIH for more coplete

testing becuaswe Breana has underlying UNDX nero issues which even her great

team of Doc's here in Boston are unsure whats goign on .

mom to Breana 5

-------------- Original message ----------------------

From: " Sacora " <sacoracasselman@...>

[Guest guest]

Hi Sacora! My son Pj has gi issues. They are the worst part of his episodes but

are frequently present in between. Mainly nausea and vomiting, stomache aches,

constipation, plus he has absorption issues. I think that these are all pretty

typical for FMF.

Pat Bombardier

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[Guest guest]

Hi

I am sorry I havent been in touch i have been in the hospital for the last 5

days. They thought i had an obstruction of the bowel but it has turned out my

whole gi tract is very inflammed and they are not sure why. I had to have a

colonoscopy and a endoscope done since then my lower back and my hips hurt bad

like that did something so i have been in lots of pain.He sounds so much like me

but i also have a malrotation of my gut. I will get in contact in a day or so

cause it is killing me to sit here right now.Hope all is well with every one. I

will talk to you soon.

Sacora mom of nick 12

Bombardier <petish44@...> wrote:

Hi Sacora! My son Pj has gi issues. They are the worst part of his episodes

but are frequently present in between. Mainly nausea and vomiting, stomache

aches, constipation, plus he has absorption issues. I think that these are all

pretty typical for FMF.

Pat Bombardier

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sacora, Just to let you know you are in my thoughts. I hope you are well

soon. Gretchen

Sacora Casselman <sacoracasselman@...> wrote: Hi

I am sorry I havent been in touch i have been in the hospital for the last 5

days. They thought i had an obstruction of the bowel but it has turned out my

whole gi tract is very inflammed and they are not sure why. I had to have a

colonoscopy and a endoscope done since then my lower back and my hips hurt bad

like that did something so i have been in lots of pain.He sounds so much like me

but i also have a malrotation of my gut. I will get in contact in a day or so

cause it is killing me to sit here right now.Hope all is well with every one. I

will talk to you soon.

Sacora mom of nick 12

Bombardier <petish44@...> wrote:

Hi Sacora! My son Pj has gi issues. They are the worst part of his episodes

but are frequently present in between. Mainly nausea and vomiting, stomache

aches, constipation, plus he has absorption issues. I think that these are all

pretty typical for FMF.

Pat Bombardier

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[Guest guest]

Syntrax Nectar definitely passes the water test. It mixes up more like

fruit juice than a gloppy shake. I also like EAS 100% Whey in

chocolate flavor. I can drink it plain in water, no problem.

Here was my Syntrax Nectar taste test results -

Very Cherry Berry was quite good. It was only vaguely medicinal, still

way better than any protein shake I've had before. I think I only

dwelt on the very faint aftertaste because so many cough syrups and

cold medicines are cherry flavored.

Roadside Lemonade was a little weird. It was tart, but not a good

tart, kind of a bitter chemical tart. Still, it was better/different

than most pukey protein powders. I can see how a lemonade drinker

might love this one.

Caribbean Cooler flavor, is the best one so far. It tastes like a pina

colada, lots of coconut, very little aftertaste. Great mixed with

banana or pineapple. And it's white instead of neon.

Strawberry/Kiwi was quite good even though the neon red color

terrified me. What the hell is in there to make it GLOW like that?!

Fuzzy Navel, I believe was the packet of rat poison. Artificial peach

flavors never quite work. Fuzzy Navel was very chemically.

Apple Ecstasy was pretty good. It won major points just for the fact

that it's bright green with frothy white foam on top. It absolutely

looks like something Grandpa Munster made in his laboratory. I would

buy this and drink it just for the entertainment value.

Lemon Tea was pleasantly surprising. I expect anything with artificial

lemon in it to taste like furniture polish, but this one tasted more

like Diet Snapple. This was my second favorite flavor behind the

Caribbean Cooler.

Crystal Sky Fruit Punch. When it turned bright blue, I jumped up and

down and clapped. Now I'm wishing I'd taken a picture of every one of

these flavors because the colors have been spectacular and hilarious.

It was very tasty. Might be in a tie for second with Lemon Tea.

Natural Peach. It was ok, not great. Artificial peach flavors are

usually weird and chemically and this one was no exception.

Cappuccino. I hate coffee. I tossed this one because I knew it

wouldn't be a flavor I would ever buy. It actually has coffee in it

though. If you're a coffee drinker it might be a nice twist on normal

protein shakes.

Anyway, I went with the Caribbean Cooler flavor and I'm very happy

with the decision. I'll be ordering more for sure.

Another thing I learned is that when Syntrax says that their product

mixes easily with a spoon, they totally mean it. Put it in a glass and

stir it a little. I quit using the shaker bottle after the second time

I turned the whole shake into foam. If you use it in the blender you

have to thoroughly mix all your other ingredients first and then throw

the Nectar in and pulse it a few times on low. Don't whir the hell out

of it or you'll just make a bubbly mess.

> Hi all,

>

> The other day someone posted a protein powder that passed the water

> test...was that you ? What protein powder was it? I am going to the

> store today and need some new so would love some feed back on what everyone

> prefers.

>

> Also I notice that I do great for the three hours between meal one and two

> but then I get hungry about 2 hours after meal two and 2 hours after meal

> three. After meal 4 I am back to ok with 3 hours. I have been simply

> listening to my body and honoring that hunger. I just want feedback on what

> others experience as far as hunger and time between meals.

>

> Thanks.

>

> Lynn

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Wow. Lots of great info. The muster¹s rock!

Lol. Thanks. Food pictures are always interesting. A rainbow of protein

...what a thought.. My Hubby is a graphic artist and often gets jobs doing

menus for sushi restaurants ( for which he is paid monetarily AND in free

sushi...and he always asks if he can bring his lovely wife!) any way...the

pictures of sushi always look so weird no matter how beautiful they actually

look! Your food pictures are often on fun plate¹s I notice!

Lynn

I may just have to expand into the fruity arena..I am a die hard chocolate

or vanilla powder eater!

on 4/21/06 3:21 PM, Skwigg atskwigg@..., wrote:

> Syntrax Nectar definitely passes the water test. It mixes up more like

> fruit juice than a gloppy shake. I also like EAS 100% Whey in

> chocolate flavor. I can drink it plain in water, no problem.

>

> Here was my Syntrax Nectar taste test results -

>

> Very Cherry Berry was quite good. It was only vaguely medicinal, still

> way better than any protein shake I've had before. I think I only

> dwelt on the very faint aftertaste because so many cough syrups and

> cold medicines are cherry flavored.

>

> Roadside Lemonade was a little weird. It was tart, but not a good

> tart, kind of a bitter chemical tart. Still, it was better/different

> than most pukey protein powders. I can see how a lemonade drinker

> might love this one.

>

> Caribbean Cooler flavor, is the best one so far. It tastes like a pina

> colada, lots of coconut, very little aftertaste. Great mixed with

> banana or pineapple. And it's white instead of neon.

>

> Strawberry/Kiwi was quite good even though the neon red color

> terrified me. What the hell is in there to make it GLOW like that?!

>

> Fuzzy Navel, I believe was the packet of rat poison. Artificial peach

> flavors never quite work. Fuzzy Navel was very chemically.

>

> Apple Ecstasy was pretty good. It won major points just for the fact

> that it's bright green with frothy white foam on top. It absolutely

> looks like something Grandpa Munster made in his laboratory. I would

> buy this and drink it just for the entertainment value.

>

> Lemon Tea was pleasantly surprising. I expect anything with artificial

> lemon in it to taste like furniture polish, but this one tasted more

> like Diet Snapple. This was my second favorite flavor behind the

> Caribbean Cooler.

>

> Crystal Sky Fruit Punch. When it turned bright blue, I jumped up and

> down and clapped. Now I'm wishing I'd taken a picture of every one of

> these flavors because the colors have been spectacular and hilarious.

> It was very tasty. Might be in a tie for second with Lemon Tea.

>

> Natural Peach. It was ok, not great. Artificial peach flavors are

> usually weird and chemically and this one was no exception.

>

> Cappuccino. I hate coffee. I tossed this one because I knew it

> wouldn't be a flavor I would ever buy. It actually has coffee in it

> though. If you're a coffee drinker it might be a nice twist on normal

> protein shakes.

>

> Anyway, I went with the Caribbean Cooler flavor and I'm very happy

> with the decision. I'll be ordering more for sure.

>

> Another thing I learned is that when Syntrax says that their product

> mixes easily with a spoon, they totally mean it. Put it in a glass and

> stir it a little. I quit using the shaker bottle after the second time

> I turned the whole shake into foam. If you use it in the blender you

> have to thoroughly mix all your other ingredients first and then throw

> the Nectar in and pulse it a few times on low. Don't whir the hell out

> of it or you'll just make a bubbly mess.

>

>

>

>

>

>> > Hi all,

>> >

>> > The other day someone posted a protein powder that passed the water

>> > test...was that you ? What protein powder was it? I am going to the

>> > store today and need some new so would love some feed back on what everyone

>> > prefers.

>> >

>> > Also I notice that I do great for the three hours between meal one and two

>> > but then I get hungry about 2 hours after meal two and 2 hours after meal

>> > three. After meal 4 I am back to ok with 3 hours. I have been simply

>> > listening to my body and honoring that hunger. I just want feedback on

>> what

>> > others experience as far as hunger and time between meals.

>> >

>> > Thanks.

>> >

>> > Lynn

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

[Guest guest]

Is Syntrax Nectar available in stores or only online? What kind of

protein is in Syntrax Nectar?

> > Hi all,

> >

> > The other day someone posted a protein powder that passed the

water

> > test...was that you ? What protein powder was it? I am

going to the

> > store today and need some new so would love some feed back on

what everyone

> > prefers.

> >

> > Also I notice that I do great for the three hours between meal

one and two

> > but then I get hungry about 2 hours after meal two and 2 hours

after meal

> > three. After meal 4 I am back to ok with 3 hours. I have been

simply

> > listening to my body and honoring that hunger. I just want

feedback on what

> > others experience as far as hunger and time between meals.

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

> > Lynn

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Jen,

I don't know where you live, but I saw some at Vitamin World, which is

a chain. They had maybe 4-5 types, in the huge tubs. I'm not sure

what type of protein it is, but I'm guessing whey.

Candace

>

> Is Syntrax Nectar available in stores or only online? What kind of

> protein is in Syntrax Nectar?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jen,

I don't know where you live, but I saw some at Vitamin World, which is

a chain. They had maybe 4-5 types, in the huge tubs. I'm not sure

what type of protein it is, but I'm guessing whey.

Candace

>

> Is Syntrax Nectar available in stores or only online? What kind of

> protein is in Syntrax Nectar?

>

>

[Guest guest]

It's whey protein. I know that some supplement/vitamin stores carry it

but I always buy mine online from Netrition.

http://www.netrition.com/syntrax_nectar_page.html

I originally bought an 11-flavor sample pack for $15.99 from EnjoyHealth:

http://www.enjoyhealth.com/samples.htm

That's a good way to taste them all without buying a couple pounds of

one flavor and hoping you like it.

> Is Syntrax Nectar available in stores or only online? What kind of

> protein is in Syntrax Nectar?

>