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I stored my belongings away for 10-12 mos and they are not infested now. I kept most everything. Car I parked and left through a MN winter and zero activity now.AandrayaOn Jan 27, 2012, at 5:59 PM, miteymaid <emccallny@...> wrote:

I took out the papers I stored in my freezer when I moved here in August and all these microscopic mites that were still alive in my papers were flying out and biting me. I am going to have to sort the rest of them outside in northeast weather. I really always knew they hadn't died. Refrigerator freezers aren't all that cold anyway. How do you people keep your papers uninfected? One thing I know I'm being forced to have as little stuff as possible.

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My Dr. put me on Ivermectin 12mg, 1 dose a week for two weeks. Then, albenazole 100 mg 2 times a day for 10 days. The doxy I did myself as I read on a MOrgellons page that the parasites release bacteria when dying.

Love and light,

sarah

From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 9:16 PMSubject: Re: dox. and lyme testing

Can I ask you what anti parasite medication you took and were you also prescribed the doxy or did you start on that yourself? > > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > Deedee> > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> > > I think you can get doxy from pharmacychecker.com > > > without a> > > > >>> script. I know how frustrating it is not to be able to get your> > > > >>> meds through your doctor! This whole issue is a nightmare!> > > > >>> >> > >> > > > >>> >> >

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Doxy kills the internal infections.AaOn Jan 28, 2012, at 7:51 PM, miteymaid <miteymaid@...> wrote:

Not to belabor the point, but would Doxi kill the mite parasites since the only thing right now that points to the Lyme are the two bands 23 & 41 and the mites? And what's really bothering me right now are those mites, I do feel them around. A whole lot were in my papers in the freezer, landed up throwing out most, even what I needed. Second question, can you put papers in microwave, have one here but never used one. I tried the ironing but a lot got away into the room.

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Put our papers in an airtight ziploc or plastic bin with moth balls, borax or baking soda.  Wrapped with saran wrap & will store unopened for a year or more...

On Jan 28, 2012 9:15 PM, " healinghope " <mfrreman@...> wrote:

 

You are suspicious of lyme to say the least with band 23 and 41. Treatment with antibiotics would be a choice, and doxy is not a black box drug by any means. If there are live insects like I had, no the doxy alone did not solve my infestation and infection. I had both an infection and infestation.

I am pasting something written about lyme testing from a LLMD

" Because Borrelia burgdorferi is a chronic persistent infection that may last for decades, you would think patients with chronic symptoms would have positive IgG Western blots.

But actually, more IgM blots are positive in chronic borreliosis than IgG. Every time Borrelia burgdorferi reproduces itself, it may stimulate the immune system to form new IgM antibodies.

Some patients have both IgG and IgM blots positive. But if either the IgG or IgM blot is positive, overall it is a positive result.

23-25: Outer surface protein C (osp C).

41: Flagella or tail. This is how Borrelia burgdorferi moves around, by moving the flagella. Many bacteria have flagella. This is the most common borreliosis antibody.

In my clinical experience, if a patient has symptoms suspicious for borreliosis, and has one or more of the following bands, there is a very high probability the patient has borreliosis.

These bands are 18, 22, 23-25, 28, 30, 31, 34, 37, 39, 41, 83, and 93.

(Remember, research supports that if just one antibody that is significantly associated with Borrelia burgdorferi is present on a Western blot, 97 percent of those patients with chronic symptoms or chronic diseases feel better with antibiotics.) "

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Hi!|Freezing will not kill mites. THey only go dormant. Heating will. Over 70 degrees celsius kills them.KRCecilia From: miteymaid <miteymaid@...> bird mites Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 2:51 AM Subject: Re: dox. and lyme testing

Not to belabor the point, but would Doxi kill the mite parasites since the only thing right now that points to the Lyme are the two bands 23 & 41 and the mites? And what's really bothering me right now are those mites, I do feel them around. A whole lot were in my papers in the freezer, landed up throwing out most, even what I needed. Second question, can you put papers in microwave, have one here but never used one. I tried the ironing but a lot got away into the room.

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Hi Mightmaid

Paper in the microwave heats unevenly , try the stove at 160 -200 for standard

paper , carbon copy type paper like gas reciept are damaged though , they turn

black & are ruined

What I do is gas paper with a $5.00 rented 20 lb co2 tank from the welding

supply ,they fill it for $12.68 here in mich. Prices vary. I put all papers in

a box & then put them in the car , place tank in car & open valve ,close & lock

door , wait 3-8hrs , get vacuum out place it next to car to look like I am

Cleaning my car , hold my breath & open all doors & walk up wind & let the car

air for 1 hr , I have found 1 gassing to be effective for 3 months on papers.

Also all life forms in the car are killed , but not the eggs , I must repeat

to cure the car , in 3 days the conquers the eggs , there may be many many eggs

& repeating goes on & on .

Co2 attracts predators like mosuitos, fleas, mites & the like so washing the

outside of the car with 1 teasp Dawn soap per gallon of water is a good idea

while gassing. It might be better to use nitrogen gas instead of co2 . Both are

a simalar price , but you get more cubic ft of co2 for the money . Both are

non Flamable.

I gas my laptop daily n a 2.5 ziplock bag & place it in a 5 gallon bucket with

a lid , it keeps it bug free. I never breath even a hint of the concentrated gas

it is deadly in this concentration & causes brain damage & kidney failure.

here is a very good link to carbon dioxide ( co2)

CARBON DIOXIDE, CAVES

http://wasg.iinet.net.au/Co2paper.html

here is an excerpt from co2 link :

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Carbon Dioxide (CO2) is the body's regulator of the breathing function. It is

normally present in the air at a concentration of 0.03% by volume. Any increase

above this level will cause accelerated breathing and heart rate. A

concentration of 10% can cause respiratory paralysis and death within a few

minutes. In industry the maximum safe working level recommended for an 8 hour

working day is 0.5% .

Caves often contain elevated levels of Carbon Dioxide (CO2), consequently cavers

may be putting themselves at risk without really knowing the full potential

danger.

#2. Links

And : carbon dioxide & kidney damage,

http://www.ilpi.com/msds/ref/carbondioxide.ht...

#3. Link

Fumigation is only one of the ways to kill a bug .Multifaceted approach is best

and here is a great ling to fumigationn approahes

http://www.fao.org/docrep/X5042E/x5042E01.htm

Other ways that have been found effective in preventing and controlling

infestations are as follows:

1. Sanitation.

2. Exclusion of pests.

3. Low temperature - " freeze-outs " , refrigeration, aeration.

4. High temperature - heating of mills.

5. Moisture control - grain drying.

6. Aeration - cooling, drying, elimination of temperature gradients.

7. Protectants - chemicals, inert dusts, natural compounds.

8. Residual or contact insecticides.

9. Atmospheric gases - carbon dioxide, nitrogen.

10. Gamma radiation, radio and sonic waves, microwaves, infra-red radiation.

11. Pheromones.

12. Insect growth regulators.

13. Insect pathogens.

14. Predators.

15. Insect resistant packaging.

16. Resistant varieties.

An effective integrated pest management system should begin with comprehensive

planning to include all aspects of the problem, followed by the application of

preventive and control methods...

God bless you,

Bill

ps don't forget the menthol crysal it will drive any bug out of fiding & make

the scamper for fresh air ,a great time to wash them in Arm & Hammer Powdered

Laundry Detergent 1 cup per gallon . Kils them dead ,

a & h soap is the end of thes bug , it has cusred 100's of people , 1 cup in he

bath & soak for 30 mins , it is painless.

.....

bye !

------------------------------On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 8:51 PM EST miteymaid

wrote:>>Not to belabor the point, but would Doxi kill the mite parasites since

the only thing right now that points to the Lyme are the two bands 23 & 41 and the

mites? And what's really bothering me right now are those mites, I do feel them

around. A whole lot were in my papers in the freezer, landed up throwing out

most, even what I needed. Second question, can you put papers in microwave, have

one here but never used one. I tried the ironing but a lot got away into the

room.>>> > > > > >> >>> > > > > >> >Hi C,>> > > > > >> >>> > > > >

>> >No, the entemologist I was speaking to at the time advised >> > > > me to>>

> > > > >> push the mattress out of my bed and stick some clear tape onto >> > >

> my>> > > > > >> springs and bed frame between

midnight and 1 a.m. when the mites>> > > > > >> are most active. So I did. It

was a desperate attempt to capture>> > > > > >> something as I was questioning

my sanity back in 2009. The Prof.>> > > > > >> then identified a 'blood-sucking'

mite on the tapes I had sent >> > > > to>> > > > > >> him, but could not specify

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Only 30% of Lyme patients got the bullseye rash from the tick bite. I never got one, and most I know with chronic Lyme never did. Sure wish I had gotten one.Aandraya On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:01 AM, "jan.morin28" <no_reply > wrote:

My doctor tested me for Lymes when I told him my birdsnest story (minus the mites part). He said, "Jan, there are many bird diseases. I'll order a Lymes test with the rest of your regular blood work." I tested negative. But I know I have whatever this is, for sure.

If you have Lymes, find the pics on the web. You get a huge target-shaped reddened area on your skin. Can't miss it.

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> Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee

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I never got a bullseye either.  I've had lyme since at least 1999.

On Feb 3, 2012 3:26 PM, " Aandraya " <aandraya@...> wrote:

 

Only 30% of Lyme patients got the bullseye rash from the tick bite.  I never got one, and most I know with chronic Lyme never did.  Sure wish I had gotten one.Aandraya  

On Feb 2, 2012, at 12:01 AM, " jan.morin28 " <no_reply > wrote:>  >>>> My doctor...

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