Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

January 25, 2012

Hi aggi

Ur a mindreader

Im thinkin of getin canesten cream n putin on feet legs hands see if helps maybe

take diflucan also

However its in desperation as canesten n diflucsn didnt helpcandida before made

more agresive

Its just to try

N think get pepto bismal to kill lyme in intestines

Heard it does that

Benzol peroxide for hands feet nails

Ordered banderol

Got samento

Gona drink nettle tea detox

What has helped is sulphur soap left on

N aple cider vunegar neem clove tea tree rinse patted dry on whole body

Then coconut oil b lavender masaged in skin

Duno if borax foot n hand soaks have helped yet

But im exhausted

Oxyclean helps clothes

Dettol helps house

How utterly soul destroyin this is when we wud all love to spend our time n

money on pleasant things

Not this bloody all pervading problem!!!!!

But we all are strong

N we will all get there!!!

Hugs to everyone who feel as bloody miserable as I do

X

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On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 05:34 PST Aggi Assmann wrote:

>Hi C,

>

>Since you seem to be a fungus candidate just like I am, have you tried

something like Canestene on your feet, I mean any anti-fungal treatment ? My

life has totally changed since I started Itraconazole capsules 100mg

>2 x daily.

>You should probably consider that, instead of buying 10 different things that

do not work for you.

>Is there anything that h a s worked for you so far and I mean a noticeable

difference ?

>

>________________________________

>Von: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>

>An: bird mites

>Gesendet: 22:46 Dienstag, 24.Januar 2012

>Betreff: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

>

>Yes linda I had candida for years before also!

>Oh boy got feet in basin of epsom salts pine orange oregano coconut n borax

>N I am gettin majorly painful pinprick stabbing bites,on my feet worse than

usual n severe

>Is that herxing

>Bugs dying

>Mites or maybe bartonella?

>An so itchy everywhere else

>Ugh

>C

>

>------------------------------

>On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 13:15 PST Goldstein@... wrote:

>

>>Aa

>>

>>I had many years of infection prior to getting infestation. CFS and fibro

>>

>> dox. and lyme testing

>> > >

>> > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send

for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now

thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont

think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee

>> > >

>> > > ------------------------------------

>> > >

January 25, 2012

I am considering buying it too even though it is so expensive for me. We really can't afford it, but I can't afford to not try it either. Wish C and I could both try it. Thanks Aggi for posting your comments.From: "Aggi Assmann" <aggi_assmann@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 5:34:12 AMSubject: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

Hi C,

Since you seem to be a fungus candidate just like I am, have you tried something like Canestene on your feet, I mean any anti-fungal treatment ? My life has totally changed since I started Itraconazole capsules 100mg

2 x daily.

You should probably consider that, instead of buying 10 different things that do not work for you.

Is there anything that h a s worked for you so far and I mean a noticeable difference ?

Von: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 22:46 Dienstag, 24.Januar 2012Betreff: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

Yes linda I had candida for years before also!Oh boy got feet in basin of epsom salts pine orange oregano coconut n boraxN I am gettin majorly painful pinprick stabbing bites,on my feet worse than usual n severeIs that herxingBugs dyingMites or maybe bartonella?An so itchy everywhere elseUghC------------------------------On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 13:15 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>Aa >>>I had many years of infection prior to getting infestation. CFS and fibro >>> >> dox. and lyme testing >> > > >> > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------ >> > > >> > >

January 25, 2012

I know C, it is so discouraging. So sorry.From: "Sad Girl" <wherearetheangels@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 6:03:53 AMSubject: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testingThsnks AaSo banderol shud help if I have bartonella shudnt it2 yrs maybe,phewHow long did u get pin prick bites after getin treatment?Lastnite after borax pinprick bites vv agressive and sore on feet red marks also blisters that go away in short time so nothin to show doctor!!!So frustrating!!!How will I know if its mites or bartonella?One website I read said hexing isnt good sign as they getin more agressive!I thought it a sign of killing them off!Oh what a life!:-(C------------------------------On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 13:51 PST Aandraya wrote:>C->Yes bartonella causes little red dots that look like bites. All my Lyme friends and I have had them at one point or another. The burning itching is Lyme/Bart. Bart causes more skin symptoms than Lyme itself. But chronic Bart combined with borrelia(Lyme) is much worse. Takes 10-16 months to treat though I'm at 2 yrs and I know people treating longer- depends how deep seeded the bugs are and how virulent the strain is- there are more strains then borrelia. In Europe the borrelia strain is mostly garinni.>Aa>>>>On Jan 24, 2012, at 6:26 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:>>> >> Aa>> Thanks>> So cud bartonela cause a pin prick bite ,then I look to where I was bitten n have small swollen tiny red mark n sometimes a white granule or granules around it,though in my other flat tiny black dots,they no longer around.>> Wud bartonela occur in same places over n over again!>> Also,keep getting pin prick bites under the index finger nail of my left hand>> This finger was the finger that daily for months cleaned out the inner ears of my beloved cat wi antibacterial n water n. Put my finger in her ear drum to clean it out as mites bothering her ears.>> Was disgusting job but did help her a bit.>> So cud mites be buried under my nails>> Or bartenella?>> When soaking hand s feet in borax lastnight>> Felt itchy all over>> Was like it was makin mites worse elsewhere>> Or would bartonela do that?>> Surely nhs doctors have tests for bartonela>> Some o my friends think im mental>> One has just dropped me>> Put me down,criticised me,think he thinks im a bit mental>> N has droped any contact!!!!>> I know it hard fir folk but its v hurtful>> None of us chose this in our lives>> My cats life ended badly becoz of it>> N now im bein labelled put in a box>> Life wont always be like this!!!!!>> Im stil throwin out fabric things some old neighbours gave me when I moved>> Keep simple>> As still feel things get infested>> Tho I know its hard for anyone to listen to>> Its even harder to live like this>> C>> >> ------------------------------>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 22:36 PST Aandraya wrote:>> >> >Bartonella does do that, they look like bites. Sometimes it causes blister like things, other times a rash that looks like stretchmarks.>> >Aa>> >>> >>> >>> >On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:>> >>> >>> > Well it definately starts wi.bites>> > But I just do not have a clue wi my bites now>> > Think they external as get little swollen red lump where I have been bitten>> > Dont think internal wud do that?>> > Oh we are pushed beyond our limits>> > If I wasny goin thru this id think.the extremes folk go to were funny>> > But I find it so sad n painful n heartbraking we have had to live like this>> > Big hug to anyone else who is suffering>> > C>> >>> > ------------------------------>> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 15:10 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>> >>> > >I don't think it can all be internal. I had bites that were biopsied and came out positive for insect-related bites.>> > >>> > > dox. and lyme testing>> > > > >>> > > > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > > ------------------------------------>> > > > >>> > > > >

January 25, 2012

Hi sad girl,...don't be ! I know it doesn't help you much, but we've all been where you are right now

and we are all better, maybe not 100 %, but better and I'm sure life will be good again for you as well in the

near future. Just do not lose faith as you are on the right way, trying different things and excluding the ones that do not work.

Perhaps you should not talk to friends and doctor's about it. Never got any help nor understanding from these parties. Only my mum did listen to me and one friend who had had problems with mites (tropical rat mite) the year before. But she got rid of the problem relatively easy after 6 months.

Big hug !

Von: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 15:30 Mittwoch, 25.Januar 2012Betreff: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

Hi aggi Ur a mindreaderIm thinkin of getin canesten cream n putin on feet legs hands see if helps maybe take diflucan alsoHowever its in desperation as canesten n diflucsn didnt helpcandida before made more agresiveIts just to tryN think get pepto bismal to kill lyme in intestinesHeard it does thatBenzol peroxide for hands feet nailsOrdered banderolGot samentoGona drink nettle tea detoxWhat has helped is sulphur soap left onN aple cider vunegar neem clove tea tree rinse patted dry on whole bodyThen coconut oil b lavender masaged in skinDuno if borax foot n hand soaks have helped yetBut im exhaustedOxyclean helps clothesDettol helps houseHow utterly soul destroyin this is when we wud all love to spend our time n money on pleasant thingsNot this bloody all pervading problem!!!!!But we all are strongN we will all get there!!!Hugs to everyone who feel as bloody

miserable as I doX------------------------------On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 05:34 PST Aggi Assmann wrote:>Hi C,> >Since you seem to be a fungus candidate just like I am, have you tried something like Canestene on your feet, I mean any anti-fungal treatment ? My life has totally changed since I started Itraconazole capsules 100mg >2 x daily.>You should probably consider that, instead of buying 10 different things that do not work for you.>Is there anything that h a s worked for you so far and I mean a noticeable difference ?> > > >>>________________________________>Von: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...>>An: bird mites >Gesendet: 22:46 Dienstag, 24.Januar 2012>Betreff: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing>>> >>Yes linda I had candida for years before also!>Oh boy got feet in basin of epsom salts pine orange oregano coconut n borax>N I am gettin majorly painful pinprick stabbing bites,on my feet worse than usual n severe>Is that herxing>Bugs dying>Mites or maybe bartonella?>An so itchy everywhere else>Ugh>C>>------------------------------>On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 13:15 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>>>Aa >>>>>>I had many years of infection prior to getting infestation. CFS and fibro

>>>>>> >>>> dox. and lyme testing >> > >

>> > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------ >> > > >> > >

January 25, 2012

C- that's a normal Lyme/Bart herx. The itching can be unbearable- worse after hot bath. Yesterday my friend just had one of those Bart streaks appear on his arm out of nowhere- the kind that looks like a burn but sometimes like a scratch- he has more the scratch kind. It was his 2nd day on Doxy when it appeared. In the morning it wasn't there and after work he saw it and was perplexed how it appeared so suddenly. That's what Lyme/Bart does.AaOn Jan 24, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

Yes linda I had candida for years before also!

Oh boy got feet in basin of epsom salts pine orange oregano coconut n borax

N I am gettin majorly painful pinprick stabbing bites,on my feet worse than usual n severe

Is that herxing

Bugs dying

Mites or maybe bartonella?

An so itchy everywhere else

Ugh

C

------------------------------

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 13:15 PST Goldstein@... wrote:

>Aa

>

>I had many years of infection prior to getting infestation. CFS and fibro

>

> dox. and lyme testing

>> > >

>> > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee

>> > >

>> > > ------------------------------------

>> > >

January 25, 2012

Husband and I both had those streaks too, were red mainly. Sometimes they would come in parallel lines.From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...>bird mites Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 9:10:16 AMSubject: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

C- that's a normal Lyme/Bart herx. The itching can be unbearable- worse after hot bath. Yesterday my friend just had one of those Bart streaks appear on his arm out of nowhere- the kind that looks like a burn but sometimes like a scratch- he has more the scratch kind. It was his 2nd day on Doxy when it appeared. In the morning it wasn't there and after work he saw it and was perplexed how it appeared so suddenly. That's what Lyme/Bart does.AaOn Jan 24, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

Yes linda I had candida for years before also!

Oh boy got feet in basin of epsom salts pine orange oregano coconut n borax

N I am gettin majorly painful pinprick stabbing bites,on my feet worse than usual n severe

Is that herxing

Bugs dying

Mites or maybe bartonella?

An so itchy everywhere else

Ugh

C

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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 13:15 PST Goldstein@... wrote:

>Aa

>

>I had many years of infection prior to getting infestation. CFS and fibro

>

> dox. and lyme testing

>> > >

>> > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee

>> > >

>> > > ------------------------------------

>> > >

January 25, 2012

Thanks linda,your a lovely person:-)

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On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 07:32 PST Goldstein@... wrote:

>I know C, it is so discouraging. So sorry.

>

> dox. and lyme testing

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to

send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now

thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont

think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee

>> > > > >

>> > > > > ------------------------------------

>> > > > >

January 25, 2012

Thanks healing hope

Will look into it

C

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On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 08:00 PST healinghope wrote:

>try nu stock on your feet. Dr foster and smith sells for less.

>http://www.herbalhealer.com/nustock.html

>

>> > > >

>> > > > Deedee

>> > > >

>> > > > I think you can get doxy from pharmacychecker.com without a script. I

know how frustrating it is not to be able to get your meds through your doctor!

This whole issue is a nightmare!

>> > > >

>> > > > dox. and lyme testing

>> > > >

>> > > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to

send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now

thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont

think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee

>> > > >

>> > > > ------------------------------------

>> > > >

January 25, 2012

No, a herx happens when athe antimicrobial is killing large amounts of pathogens.AaOn Jan 25, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

Thsnks Aa

So banderol shud help if I have bartonella shudnt it

2 yrs maybe,phew

How long did u get pin prick bites after getin treatment?

Lastnite after borax pinprick bites vv agressive and sore on feet red marks also blisters that go away in short time so nothin to show doctor!!!

So frustrating!!!

How will I know if its mites or bartonella?

One website I read said hexing isnt good sign as they getin more agressive!

I thought it a sign of killing them off!

Oh what a life!:-(

C

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On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 13:51 PST Aandraya wrote:

>C-

>Yes bartonella causes little red dots that look like bites. All my Lyme friends and I have had them at one point or another. The burning itching is Lyme/Bart. Bart causes more skin symptoms than Lyme itself. But chronic Bart combined with borrelia(Lyme) is much worse. Takes 10-16 months to treat though I'm at 2 yrs and I know people treating longer- depends how deep seeded the bugs are and how virulent the strain is- there are more strains then borrelia. In Europe the borrelia strain is mostly garinni.

>Aa

>

>On Jan 24, 2012, at 6:26 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>

>>

>> Aa

>> Thanks

>> So cud bartonela cause a pin prick bite ,then I look to where I was bitten n have small swollen tiny red mark n sometimes a white granule or granules around it,though in my other flat tiny black dots,they no longer around.

>> Wud bartonela occur in same places over n over again!

>> Also,keep getting pin prick bites under the index finger nail of my left hand

>> This finger was the finger that daily for months cleaned out the inner ears of my beloved cat wi antibacterial n water n. Put my finger in her ear drum to clean it out as mites bothering her ears.

>> Was disgusting job but did help her a bit.

>> So cud mites be buried under my nails

>> Or bartenella?

>> When soaking hand s feet in borax lastnight

>> Felt itchy all over

>> Was like it was makin mites worse elsewhere

>> Or would bartonela do that?

>> Surely nhs doctors have tests for bartonela

>> Some o my friends think im mental

>> One has just dropped me

>> Put me down,criticised me,think he thinks im a bit mental

>> N has droped any contact!!!!

>> I know it hard fir folk but its v hurtful

>> None of us chose this in our lives

>> My cats life ended badly becoz of it

>> N now im bein labelled put in a box

>> Life wont always be like this!!!!!

>> Im stil throwin out fabric things some old neighbours gave me when I moved

>> Keep simple

>> As still feel things get infested

>> Tho I know its hard for anyone to listen to

>> Its even harder to live like this

>> C

>>

>> ------------------------------

>> On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 22:36 PST Aandraya wrote:

>>

>> >Bartonella does do that, they look like bites. Sometimes it causes blister like things, other times a rash that looks like stretchmarks.

>> >Aa

>> >

>> >On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>> >

>> > Well it definately starts wi.bites

>> > But I just do not have a clue wi my bites now

>> > Think they external as get little swollen red lump where I have been bitten

>> > Dont think internal wud do that?

>> > Oh we are pushed beyond our limits

>> > If I wasny goin thru this id think.the extremes folk go to were funny

>> > But I find it so sad n painful n heartbraking we have had to live like this

>> > Big hug to anyone else who is suffering

>> > C

>> >

>> > ------------------------------

>> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 15:10 PST Goldstein@... wrote:

>> >

>> > >I don't think it can all be internal. I had bites that were biopsied and came out positive for insect-related bites.

>> > >

>> > > dox. and lyme testing

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee

>> > > > >

>> > > > > ------------------------------------

>> > > > >

January 25, 2012

Hi C ..

I remember so wellthe bug all over,. 700 bites at once .

It was nuts , wish I had had a weapon like cococnut oil then .

Regarding rashes blisters & odd bites : kill iit . Soak it in the peroxide mix

on the skin * see bottom for mix & how it stopped even lesions after 3 years

for frito .

Sponge bath with borax 1/2 cup per 3gallons of water or bathe in 1-2 cups

borax per tub for 30 min , while bathing compress tha bad areas with a

cotton rag & soak out the bug & infection Do it 2 times per day for 60 days .

Weaken the borax little by little & add espom salts little by little till you

are are only using epsom salts in the bath & compress , it works , for sure .

..

It is external , kill it in the environment. ,soak it in dawn dish soap & wet

vac it up , rinse with cococnut oil water 2 tbl per 48 oz of warm water . , it

plugs their breather holes & suffocates them .

Sleep on a bed you can sanitize , air matreses deflate & roll up in 2 mins.

Stuff in a bucket of soap, a & h powder laundry soap is good ,but dawn dish 2

oz per 5 gal is fine , rinse it in the shower & use 2 oz of dawn in the shower

& walls in a windex bottle it suffacates them too .

..

It is a bug kill it . It will die.

God said I give you dominion over everyliving thing. Stomp it & then stomp it

again.tomorrow , sooner or later its eggs will be exhausted , if you feel it

again soak it again . & keep soaking it .

Repaint , caulk , powder with baking soda. , wash with cococnut oil water 2

tbls per 48 oz it smothers it .

God bless you ,

Bill

* repasted post from Frito onthe peroxide mix & its effectiveness, it stops

itches in 3 mins , it not repeat in 20 more mins .

Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent

1 cup nthe tub is also very effective to kill the bug dead , all these remedies

are painless

ok: here is the post I learned of this mix from :

http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

The mix:

2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

16 oz peroxide (3%)

32 oz water.

mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide, it is painless & the is no fizz

or bruning from this mix & it is cheap

From: Doe <doe1769@...>

Subj: FW: Fw: Borax

Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:55:34 -0800 (PST)

Size: 16k

dox. and lyme testing >> > > > > >> > > >

> Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for

a tes

January 26, 2012

Shall look into them too

Ad back up if borax foot soaks then benzol peroxide dont work

Gona bathe feet borax for around ten nights

Surely will know if working by then!!!?

Im afrad im a bit too scared to use nu stock as fir animals

Im realy sensitive to things so have to b careful tho im sure u have been fine

on it n t uses horse paste invetmectin too

Im just a bit cautious healing hope!

C

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On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 08:08 PST healinghope wrote:

>Or soak in chlorine dioxide, mms

>

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Deedee

>> > > > >

>> > > > > I think you can get doxy from pharmacychecker.com without a script. I

know how frustrating it is not to be able to get your meds through your doctor!

This whole issue is a nightmare!

>> > > > >

>> > > > > dox. and lyme testing

>> > > > >

>> > > > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to

send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now

thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont

think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee

>> > > > >

>> > > > > ------------------------------------

>> > > > >

January 26, 2012

Thats what I thought n hoped!

Sometimes wi internet u read conflicting views!!

C

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On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 17:08 PST Aandraya wrote:

>No, a herx happens when athe antimicrobial is killing large amounts of

pathogens.

>Aa

>

>On Jan 25, 2012, at 8:03 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>

>>

>> Thsnks Aa

>> So banderol shud help if I have bartonella shudnt it

>> 2 yrs maybe,phew

>> How long did u get pin prick bites after getin treatment?

>> Lastnite after borax pinprick bites vv agressive and sore on feet red marks

also blisters that go away in short time so nothin to show doctor!!!

>> So frustrating!!!

>> How will I know if its mites or bartonella?

>> One website I read said hexing isnt good sign as they getin more agressive!

>> I thought it a sign of killing them off!

>> Oh what a life!:-(

>> C

>>

>> ------------------------------

>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 13:51 PST Aandraya wrote:

>>

>> >C-

>> >Yes bartonella causes little red dots that look like bites. All my Lyme

friends and I have had them at one point or another. The burning itching is

Lyme/Bart. Bart causes more skin symptoms than Lyme itself. But chronic Bart

combined with borrelia(Lyme) is much worse. Takes 10-16 months to treat though

I'm at 2 yrs and I know people treating longer- depends how deep seeded the bugs

are and how virulent the strain is- there are more strains then borrelia. In

Europe the borrelia strain is mostly garinni.

>> >Aa

>> >

>> >On Jan 24, 2012, at 6:26 AM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>> >

>> > Aa

>> > Thanks

>> > So cud bartonela cause a pin prick bite ,then I look to where I was bitten

n have small swollen tiny red mark n sometimes a white granule or granules

around it,though in my other flat tiny black dots,they no longer around.

>> > Wud bartonela occur in same places over n over again!

>> > Also,keep getting pin prick bites under the index finger nail of my left

hand

>> > This finger was the finger that daily for months cleaned out the inner ears

of my beloved cat wi antibacterial n water n. Put my finger in her ear drum to

clean it out as mites bothering her ears.

>> > Was disgusting job but did help her a bit.

>> > So cud mites be buried under my nails

>> > Or bartenella?

>> > When soaking hand s feet in borax lastnight

>> > Felt itchy all over

>> > Was like it was makin mites worse elsewhere

>> > Or would bartonela do that?

>> > Surely nhs doctors have tests for bartonela

>> > Some o my friends think im mental

>> > One has just dropped me

>> > Put me down,criticised me,think he thinks im a bit mental

>> > N has droped any contact!!!!

>> > I know it hard fir folk but its v hurtful

>> > None of us chose this in our lives

>> > My cats life ended badly becoz of it

>> > N now im bein labelled put in a box

>> > Life wont always be like this!!!!!

>> > Im stil throwin out fabric things some old neighbours gave me when I moved

>> > Keep simple

>> > As still feel things get infested

>> > Tho I know its hard for anyone to listen to

>> > Its even harder to live like this

>> > C

>> >

>> > ------------------------------

>> > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 22:36 PST Aandraya wrote:

>> >

>> > >Bartonella does do that, they look like bites. Sometimes it causes blister

like things, other times a rash that looks like stretchmarks.

>> > >Aa

>> > >

>> > >On Jan 23, 2012, at 5:19 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

>> > >

>> > > Well it definately starts wi.bites

>> > > But I just do not have a clue wi my bites now

>> > > Think they external as get little swollen red lump where I have been

bitten

>> > > Dont think internal wud do that?

>> > > Oh we are pushed beyond our limits

>> > > If I wasny goin thru this id think.the extremes folk go to were funny

>> > > But I find it so sad n painful n heartbraking we have had to live like

this

>> > > Big hug to anyone else who is suffering

>> > > C

>> > >

>> > > ------------------------------

>> > > On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 15:10 PST Goldstein@... wrote:

>> > >

>> > > >I don't think it can all be internal. I had bites that were biopsied and

came out positive for insect-related bites.

>> > > >

>> > > > dox. and lyme testing

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how

to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure

now thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont

think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee

>> > > > > >

>> > > > > > ------------------------------------

>> > > > > >

January 26, 2012

Thanks bill!

Phew sixty days of borax !

Thats a lot!

Niavely hoped ten days supply would be enough!

Have no bath

Do just soaking hands n feet but could

Sponge wash wi borax in the shower I guess

Or do u think that covering self in coconut oil is just as effective?

C

------------------------------

On Wed, Jan 25, 2012 21:38 PST Doe wrote:

>

>Hi C ..

>

>I remember so wellthe bug all over,. 700 bites at once .

>It was nuts , wish I had had a weapon like cococnut oil then .

>

> Regarding rashes blisters & odd bites : kill iit . Soak it in the peroxide

mix on the skin * see bottom for mix & how it stopped even lesions after 3

years for frito .

>

> Sponge bath with borax 1/2 cup per 3gallons of water or bathe in 1-2 cups

borax per tub for 30 min , while bathing compress tha bad areas with a

cotton rag & soak out the bug & infection Do it 2 times per day for 60 days .

Weaken the borax little by little & add espom salts little by little till you

are are only using epsom salts in the bath & compress , it works , for sure .

..

>

> It is external , kill it in the environment. ,soak it in dawn dish soap & wet

vac it up , rinse with cococnut oil water 2 tbl per 48 oz of warm water . , it

plugs their breather holes & suffocates them .

>

>Sleep on a bed you can sanitize , air matreses deflate & roll up in 2 mins.

Stuff in a bucket of soap, a & h powder laundry soap is good ,but dawn dish 2

oz per 5 gal is fine , rinse it in the shower & use 2 oz of dawn in the shower

& walls in a windex bottle it suffacates them too .

>.

>

>It is a bug kill it . It will die.

>God said I give you dominion over everyliving thing. Stomp it & then stomp it

again.tomorrow , sooner or later its eggs will be exhausted , if you feel it

again soak it again . & keep soaking it .

>

> Repaint , caulk , powder with baking soda. , wash with cococnut oil water 2

tbls per 48 oz it smothers it .

>

> God bless you ,

>

> Bill

>

>* repasted post from Frito onthe peroxide mix & its effectiveness, it stops

itches in 3 mins , it not repeat in 20 more mins .

> Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent

> 1 cup nthe tub is also very effective to kill the bug dead , all these

remedies are painless

>

>ok: here is the post I learned of this mix from :

>http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html

>

>The mix:

> 2 tblspns borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster

>16 oz peroxide (3%)

> 32 oz water.

>mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide, it is painless & the is no

fizz or bruning from this mix & it is cheap

>

>From: Doe <doe1769@...>

>Subj: FW: Fw: Borax

>Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 20:55:34 -0800 (PST)

>Size: 16k

>

> dox.

and lyme testing > > > > > > > > > > Can someone please tell me again how to

order doxycycline and how to send for a tes

January 26, 2012

Hi SG

Sad Gir I woud make it about 3 dys wthte borax & then have to switch to epsom

salts 1-2 cup per gallon of warm water . For 1-2 day then back to the borax . I

was soakng my feet not my whole body . For myy whole body was using in a small

opaqe bottle

1 tesp sulfur

1 teasp walrm cococnut oil , shake for 10 seconds .

8 tesp hand creme shale for 20 seconds ( healthy type hand creme lke 365 brand

from whole foods a heath store. , it contained no mineral oil . mineral oil is

the by product of making gasoline , it cosue heart trouble after repeated use

,especailly totl body coverage , which is what I did withthe sulfur creme . It

works but is slow.

Using cococnut oil 2 tbl in 48 oz of water as a spray stops the bugs instantly

, it can't move in it & it akes a shield on the skin & stops biting , almost

all.

Spraying the cococnut oil & water stops the bug on sufaces easily & is simple

the wash off.

The bed is thsir home , I piched mine & got an air matress & delfated & rolled

it daily & soaked it in2 oz of dish soap for 1-8 hrs, submerged with clorox

bottle on it to keep it submerged. , rinsed & reinflated with a hairdryer on

cool shot temp in 90 seconds . Then mist the cococnut oil water on it & the hard

floor & cieling s & walls & slept bugless. Ahhhhhhh what a miracle.. It the am

I would walke & mist the cococnut oil water All over the bed & floor to kill any

hunting bugs the came for me in the nite . Sooner or later they run out of

forces & troops , thus attrition . A no more bugs.

I mist apolstry also withthe cococnut oil . I also wash the alostry in the car

with

1 cup borax

1 cup spic n span

1 gal of water

I mean I drench the aplostry well & use a wet vac to draw out the soap , then

leave a hair dryer in the car for 24-36 hrs & it dries it well. . It works.

There are many was to kills a bug :

here are some more.

http://www.fao.org/docrep/X5042E/x5042E01.htm

Other ways that have been found effective in preventing and controlling

infestations are as follows:

1. Sanitation.

2. Exclusion of pests.

3. Low temperature - " freeze-outs " , refrigeration, aeration.

4. High temperature - heating of mills.

5. Moisture control - grain drying.

6. Aeration - cooling, drying, elimination of temperature gradients.

7. Protectants - chemicals, inert dusts, natural compounds.

8. Residual or contact insecticides.

9. Atmospheric gases - carbon dioxide, nitrogen.

10. Gamma radiation, radio and sonic waves, microwaves, infra-red radiation.

11. Pheromones.

12. Insect growth regulators.

13. Insect pathogens.

14. Predators.

15. Insect resistant packaging.

16. Resistant varieties.

An effective integrated pest management system should begin with comprehensive

planning to include all aspects of the problem, followed by the application of

preventive and control methods...

, God bless you Sad Girl ,

I know where you are at . , think hospital clean & 100 percent coverage of

areas with cococnut oil water & the wash with soap often with the big

microfiber mop & a wet vac. . Wet walls from the bottom up to avoid streaking .

,Bye ,

Bill

God is Love ,

------------------------------On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 7:01 AM EST Sad Girl

wrote:>>Thanks bill!>Phew sixty days of borax !>Thats a lot!>Niavely hoped ten

days supply would be enough!>Have no bath>Do just soaking hands n feet but

could>Sponge wash wi borax in the shower I guess>Or do u think that covering

self in coconut oil is just as effective?>C>>>>------------------------------>On

Wed, Jan 25, 2012 21:38 PST Doe wrote:>>>>>Hi C .. >>>>I remember so

wellthe bug all over,. 700 bites at once .>>It was nuts , wish I had had a

weapon like cococnut oil then .>>>> Regarding rashes blisters & odd bites :

kill iit . Soak it in the peroxide mix on the skin * see bottom for mix & how

it stopped even lesions after 3 years for frito .>>>> Sponge bath with borax 1/2

cup per 3gallons of water or bathe in 1-2 cups borax per tub for 30 min ,

while bathing compress tha bad areas with a cotton rag & soak out the bug &

infection Do it 2 times per day for 60

days . Weaken the borax little by little & add espom salts little by little

till you are are only using epsom salts in the bath & compress , it works ,

for sure . . >>>> It is external , kill it in the environment. ,soak it in dawn

dish soap & wet vac it up , rinse with cococnut oil water 2 tbl per 48 oz of

warm water . , it plugs their breather holes & suffocates them . >>>>>>Sleep on

a bed you can sanitize , air matreses deflate & roll up in 2 mins. Stuff in a

bucket of soap, a & h powder laundry soap is good ,but dawn dish 2 oz per 5 gal

is fine , rinse it in the shower & use 2 oz of dawn in the shower & walls in

a windex bottle it suffacates them too .>>. >>>>It is a bug kill it . It will

die. >>God said I give you dominion over everyliving thing. Stomp it & then

stomp it again.tomorrow , sooner or later its eggs will be exhausted , if you

feel it again soak it again . & keep soaking it . >>>> Repaint , caulk , powder

with baking soda.

, wash with cococnut oil water 2 tbls per 48 oz it smothers it . >>>>>> God

bless you , >>>> Bill>>>>* repasted post from Frito onthe peroxide mix & its

effectiveness, it stops itches in 3 mins , it not repeat in 20 more mins . >>

Arm & Hammer Powdered Laundry Detergent >> 1 cup nthe tub is also very effective

to kill the bug dead , all these remedies are painless >>>>ok: here is the post

I learned of this mix from

:>>http://www.earthclinic.com/Pets/dog_mange_cure.html>>>>The mix:>> 2 tblspns

borax (20 mule team Borax laundry booster>>16 oz peroxide (3%)>> 32 oz

water.>>mix it , and the borax nuetralizes the peroxide, it is painless & the is

no fizz or bruning from this mix & it is cheap>>>>From: Doe

<doe1769@...>>>Subj: FW: Fw: Borax>>Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008

20:55:34 -0800 (PST)>>Size: 16k>>>>>>>>>> Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing > > > > > > > > >Thanks

cecillia > > >Dont have ammonia > > >But what is 1 dl? > > >Use oxy clean

justnow > > >Then will use borax > > >Then washing soda crystals > > >Alternate

I think > > >So utterly poor > > >Thinlkin of alternating samento with banderol

> > >That would be more money > > >But heard its good > > >It all costs doesnt

it!!! > > >Hope your well > > >I felt for you at xmas time wi relationship

stress > >>> >Would have written but I was strugglin a lot then > > >But did

feel for you > > >I hope life kinder to you justnow > > >C > > > > > > > > > > >

>------------------------------ > > >On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 05:54 PST Cecilia Borg

wrote: > > > > > >Hi,. C! > > >If you´re gonna wash clothes in borax one dl per

machine + 1 dl ammonia would be great. > > >KR > > >Cecilia > > > > > > > >

>________________________________ > > >From: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@ya

January 26, 2012

The answer is YES, I am still on Doxy. I took Itraconazole for about 2 months (100mg caps 2 x day)

and have noticed a huge difference after a week already,

and then switched to Doxy 100mg caps 2 x daily for about 1 months

and all I am taking at this moment is a

maintenance dosis of Doxy = 100mg 1 x day

There is hardly any biting going on now and if there is, it is more like a very mild pin prick, instead of the unbearable hard biting I had been dealing with for about 2 years. Life is enjoyable again, which I'd never thought to be possible !

Von: miteymaid <emccallny@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 4:56 Donnerstag, 26.Januar 2012Betreff: Re: dox. and lyme testing

Sorry, this question is for Aggi. > > >> > > > > >> > > Deedee > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > I think you can get doxy from pharmacychecker.com without a script. I know how frustrating it is not to be able to get your meds through your doctor! This whole issue is a nightmare! > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > dox. and lyme testing > > >> > > > > >> > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > ------------------------------------ > > >> > > > > >> > >

January 26, 2012

The doxy should stop the mites from being attracted to you which should stop the bites.

Elissa

On Jan 26, 2012 6:17 PM, " miteymaid " <emccallny@...> wrote:

The thing is they don't bother me that much except at night, but II have to wash everything everyday and still can't get rid of them and in the morning my bedstuff is infested although I don't see anything just feel their presence. I can get the doxi but was wondering if I might do better with Ivermectin. I did see Dr. Cameron and he ordered Doxy 300 for me for a month based mainly on the 1xband 41 and 23, but he didn't know about mite infestations per say which is what I think I have. I'm always afraid to take meds because of side effects so just trying to do the best thing with the least problems. I've had my place sprayed twice in the last two months with Onslaught and Nyguard and have been using the coconut spray in the bathroom. Would really like to be done with this.

E

> >> > Are you still taking ...

> > > Ã‚Â

> > > Since you seem to be a fungus candidate just like I am, have you tried something like Canestene on your feet, I mean any anti-fungal treatment ? My life has totally changed since I started ItraconazoleÃ‚Â capsules 100mg

> > > 2 x daily.> > > You should probably consider that, instead of buying 10 different things that...

> > > Is there anything that h a s worked for you so far and I mean a noticeable differenceÃ‚Â ?

> > > Ã‚Â

> > > Ã‚Â > > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > Von: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@>> > >...

> > > Ã‚Â > > > > > > Yes linda I had candida for years before also!> > > Oh boy got feet in basin of epsom ...

> > > >>If youÃ‚Â´re gonna wash clothes in borax one dl per machine + 1 dl ammonia would be great. > > > >>KR > > > >>Cecilia > > > >>

> > > >> > > > >>________________________________ > > > >>F...

January 26, 2012

Hi Mightymaid

Long time ... where have you been

Have you got an airmatress , it changed the nite like night & day . Yuc yuc

... Sorry it is pathetic but war is war

In the am I attack , that's when you soak'em in cococnut oil water . Attrition

........ & deflate matress ,roll, stuff in 5 gal bucket w/ Arm & Hammer Powdered

Laundry Detergent , ( 1/2 cup ) ,weight down with bottles, ,rinse & enjoy :

,dont forget to spray the cielings ,they are spders. They die with oil on their

breather holes.

Spray vents too with leave blower & a good mister , turn the furnace off while

blasting , fan bearings hate cococnut oil & its solid status at 76 degrees. Mine

started squeeking immedialtly. .

I havet had crawling in 2.5 years or so from soaking in the 2 tbls coconut oil

after a borax bath . I had crawlin for 4 years before that , I will tell you I

soaked in every thing & every oil , even 1 year straight of babyoil over the top

of my head to my toes , that causes heart trouble I know that now , knocks me to

me knee if I use it now. Bad stuff petroleum mineral oil , bugs love sickly

people , stay healthy & pray Hard to God in the name of His only begotteen Son

Jesus & he will give you the desires of your heart . & eternal life ...

This is all temporary here I pray it get better soon .

God bless you ,

Bill

------------------------------On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 6:17 PM EST miteymaid

wrote:>The thing is they don't bother me that much except at night, but II have

to wash everything everyday and still can't get rid of them and in the morning

my bedstuff is infested although I don't see anything just feel their presence.

I can get the doxi but was wondering if I might do better with Ivermectin. I did

see Dr. Cameron and he ordered Doxy 300 for me for a month based mainly on the

1xband 41 and 23, but he didn't know about mite infestations per say which is

what I think I have. I'm always afraid to take meds because of side effects so

just trying to do the best thing with the least problems. I've had my place

sprayed twice in the last two months with Onslaught and Nyguard and have been

using the coconut spray in the bathroom. Would really like to be done with this.

>E>> >> > > >>> > > >>> > >

>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >The infections probably

come secondarily to the infestations. And some of us had pre-existing conditions

which make it harder to get rid of or kill off the infestations. >> > > >>> > >

>----- Origi

January 26, 2012

If those bands showed up then you have Lyme. Stick with Dr. Cameron, he knows what he's doing.AaOn Jan 26, 2012, at 5:17 PM, miteymaid <emccallny@...> wrote:

The thing is they don't bother me that much except at night, but II have to wash everything everyday and still can't get rid of them and in the morning my bedstuff is infested although I don't see anything just feel their presence. I can get the doxi but was wondering if I might do better with Ivermectin. I did see Dr. Cameron and he ordered Doxy 300 for me for a month based mainly on the 1xband 41 and 23, but he didn't know about mite infestations per say which is what I think I have. I'm always afraid to take meds because of side effects so just trying to do the best thing with the least problems. I've had my place sprayed twice in the last two months with Onslaught and Nyguard and have been using the coconut spray in the bathroom. Would really like to be done with this.

E

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Deedee

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > I think you can get doxy from pharmacychecker.com without a script. I know how frustrating it is not to be able to get your meds through your doctor! This whole issue is a nightmare!

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > dox. and lyme testing

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee

> > > >> > >

> > > >> > > ------------------------------------

> > > >> > >

January 27, 2012

I must be herzing, as I'm getting the burn marks all over. Olive leaf and water paste dries and heals them fast. The soda bathes suck the oily infection out, and the Ivermecin horse paste in my

ears seems to have stopped the mites from going in.

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:10 PMSubject: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

C- that's a normal Lyme/Bart herx. The itching can be unbearable- worse after hot bath. Yesterday my friend just had one of those Bart streaks appear on his arm out of nowhere- the kind that looks like a burn but sometimes like a scratch- he has more the scratch kind. It was his 2nd day on Doxy when it appeared. In the morning it wasn't there and after work he saw it and was perplexed how it appeared so suddenly. That's what Lyme/Bart does.

Aa

On Jan 24, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

Yes linda I had candida for years before also!Oh boy got feet in basin of epsom salts pine orange oregano coconut n boraxN I am gettin majorly painful pinprick stabbing bites,on my feet worse than usual n severeIs that herxingBugs dyingMites or maybe bartonella?An so itchy everywhere elseUghC------------------------------On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 13:15 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>Aa >>>I had many years of infection prior to getting infestation. CFS and fibro >>> >> dox. and lyme testing >> > > >> > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee >> >

> >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------ >> > > >> > >

January 27, 2012

It does really ! I had the same effect with the Itraconazole. Never tried Ivermectin though and never would...

Von: Elissa <elissarachel@...>An: bird mites Gesendet: 0:49 Freitag, 27.Januar 2012Betreff: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

The doxy should stop the mites from being attracted to you which should stop the bites.

Elissa

On Jan 26, 2012 6:17 PM, "miteymaid" <emccallny@...> wrote:

The thing is they don't bother me that much except at night, but II have to wash everything everyday and still can't get rid of them and in the morning my bedstuff is infested although I don't see anything just feel their presence. I can get the doxi but was wondering if I might do better with Ivermectin. I did see Dr. Cameron and he ordered Doxy 300 for me for a month based mainly on the 1xband 41 and 23, but he didn't know about mite infestations per say which is what I think I have. I'm always afraid to take meds because of side effects so just trying to do the best thing with the least problems. I've had my place sprayed twice in the last two months with Onslaught and Nyguard and have been using the coconut spray in the bathroom. Would really like to be done with this. E

> >> > Are you still taking ...> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > Since you seem to be a fungus candidate just like I am, have you tried something like Canestene on your feet, I mean any anti-fungal treatment ? My life has totally changed since I started ItraconazoleÃƒâ€šÃ‚ capsules 100mg

> > > 2 x daily.> > > You should probably consider that, instead of buying 10 different things that...> > > Is there anything that h a s worked for you so far and I mean a noticeable differenceÃƒâ€šÃ‚ ?> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚ > > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > > > > > > > ________________________________> > > Von: Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@>> > >...> > > Ãƒâ€šÃ‚

> > > > > > Yes linda I had candida for years before also!> > > Oh boy got feet in basin of epsom ...> > > >>If youÃƒâ€šÃ‚Â´re gonna wash clothes in borax one dl per machine + 1 dl ammonia would be great.

> > > >>KR > > > >>Cecilia > > > >> > > > >> > > > >>________________________________ > > > >>F...

January 27, 2012

The "burn" marks are bartonellaAaOn Jan 27, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I must be herzing, as I'm getting the burn marks all over. Olive leaf and water paste dries and heals them fast. The soda bathes suck the oily infection out, and the Ivermecin horse paste in my

ears seems to have stopped the mites from going in.

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:10 PMSubject: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

C- that's a normal Lyme/Bart herx. The itching can be unbearable- worse after hot bath. Yesterday my friend just had one of those Bart streaks appear on his arm out of nowhere- the kind that looks like a burn but sometimes like a scratch- he has more the scratch kind. It was his 2nd day on Doxy when it appeared. In the morning it wasn't there and after work he saw it and was perplexed how it appeared so suddenly. That's what Lyme/Bart does.

Aa

On Jan 24, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

Yes linda I had candida for years before also!Oh boy got feet in basin of epsom salts pine orange oregano coconut n boraxN I am gettin majorly painful pinprick stabbing bites,on my feet worse than usual n severeIs that herxingBugs dyingMites or maybe bartonella?An so itchy everywhere elseUghC------------------------------On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 13:15 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>Aa >>>I had many years of infection prior to getting infestation. CFS and fibro >>> >> dox. and lyme testing >> > > >> > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee >> >

> >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------ >> > > >> > >

January 27, 2012

Infection is probably flaring, unless you recently started a new abx.AaOn Jan 27, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I must be herzing, as I'm getting the burn marks all over. Olive leaf and water paste dries and heals them fast. The soda bathes suck the oily infection out, and the Ivermecin horse paste in my

ears seems to have stopped the mites from going in.

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:10 PMSubject: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

C- that's a normal Lyme/Bart herx. The itching can be unbearable- worse after hot bath. Yesterday my friend just had one of those Bart streaks appear on his arm out of nowhere- the kind that looks like a burn but sometimes like a scratch- he has more the scratch kind. It was his 2nd day on Doxy when it appeared. In the morning it wasn't there and after work he saw it and was perplexed how it appeared so suddenly. That's what Lyme/Bart does.

Aa

On Jan 24, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

Yes linda I had candida for years before also!Oh boy got feet in basin of epsom salts pine orange oregano coconut n boraxN I am gettin majorly painful pinprick stabbing bites,on my feet worse than usual n severeIs that herxingBugs dyingMites or maybe bartonella?An so itchy everywhere elseUghC------------------------------On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 13:15 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>Aa >>>I had many years of infection prior to getting infestation. CFS and fibro >>> >> dox. and lyme testing >> > > >> > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee >> >

> >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------ >> > > >> > >

January 27, 2012

Hi, Andraya,

Can't tell yet. I think I'm beating it. It happened when I started taking the parasite medicine. Four days to go on that. I started the Doxy about a week ago. Two a day and will move to three or four at that time. I'm hoping it's a herz.

will call Dr. at the end of four days and tell him about the biofilm and cat scratches. I need a Lyme test.

Love and Light,

sarah

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

Infection is probably flaring, unless you recently started a new abx.

Aa

On Jan 27, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I must be herzing, as I'm getting the burn marks all over. Olive leaf and water paste dries and heals them fast. The soda bathes suck the oily infection out, and the Ivermecin horse paste in my ears seems to have stopped the mites from going in.

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:10 PMSubject: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

C- that's a normal Lyme/Bart herx. The itching can be unbearable- worse after hot bath. Yesterday my friend just had one of those Bart streaks appear on his arm out of nowhere- the kind that looks like a burn but sometimes like a scratch- he has more the scratch kind. It was his 2nd day on Doxy when it appeared. In the morning it wasn't there and after work he saw it and was perplexed how it appeared so suddenly. That's what Lyme/Bart does.

Aa

On Jan 24, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

Yes linda I had candida for years before also!Oh boy got feet in basin of epsom salts pine orange oregano coconut n boraxN I am gettin majorly painful pinprick stabbing bites,on my feet worse than usual n severeIs that herxingBugs dyingMites or maybe bartonella?An so itchy everywhere elseUghC------------------------------On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 13:15 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>Aa >>>I had many years of infection prior to getting infestation. CFS and fibro >>> >>-----

Original Message ----->From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...> >bird mites >Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:30:42 AM >Subject: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing >>>>>- most of the cases I

know of they had symptoms of infection before the infestation, as in my case. >Aa >>>>>On Jan 24, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: >>>>>>>>>>The infections probably come secondarily to the infestations. And some of us had pre-existing conditions which make it harder to get rid of or kill off the infestations. >> dox. and lyme testing >> > > >> > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive

been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------ >> > > >> > >

January 27, 2012

-Yes, you do, make sure it's an igenix test 188-189, Igenix will send you a free kit. Any MD can sign off on it. Aa Do you have any cognitive symptoms? How about anxiety, obsessive thinking?On Jan 27, 2012, at 5:29 PM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

Hi, Andraya,

Can't tell yet. I think I'm beating it. It happened when I started taking the parasite medicine. Four days to go on that. I started the Doxy about a week ago. Two a day and will move to three or four at that time. I'm hoping it's a herz.

will call Dr. at the end of four days and tell him about the biofilm and cat scratches. I need a Lyme test.

Love and Light,

sarah

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:12 PMSubject: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

Infection is probably flaring, unless you recently started a new abx.

Aa

On Jan 27, 2012, at 9:31 AM, Benton <sarahbenton48@...> wrote:

I must be herzing, as I'm getting the burn marks all over. Olive leaf and water paste dries and heals them fast. The soda bathes suck the oily infection out, and the Ivermecin horse paste in my ears seems to have stopped the mites from going in.

From: Aandraya <aandraya@...>"bird mites " <bird mites > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2012 12:10 PMSubject: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing

C- that's a normal Lyme/Bart herx. The itching can be unbearable- worse after hot bath. Yesterday my friend just had one of those Bart streaks appear on his arm out of nowhere- the kind that looks like a burn but sometimes like a scratch- he has more the scratch kind. It was his 2nd day on Doxy when it appeared. In the morning it wasn't there and after work he saw it and was perplexed how it appeared so suddenly. That's what Lyme/Bart does.

Aa

On Jan 24, 2012, at 3:46 PM, Sad Girl <wherearetheangels@...> wrote:

Yes linda I had candida for years before also!Oh boy got feet in basin of epsom salts pine orange oregano coconut n boraxN I am gettin majorly painful pinprick stabbing bites,on my feet worse than usual n severeIs that herxingBugs dyingMites or maybe bartonella?An so itchy everywhere elseUghC------------------------------On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 13:15 PST Goldstein@... wrote:>Aa >>>I had many years of infection prior to getting infestation. CFS and fibro >>> >>-----

Original Message ----->From: "Aandraya" <aandraya@...> >bird mites >Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:30:42 AM >Subject: Re: Re: dox. and lyme testing >>>>>- most of the cases I

know of they had symptoms of infection before the infestation, as in my case. >Aa >>>>>On Jan 24, 2012, at 12:14 PM, Goldstein@... wrote: >>>>>>>>>>The infections probably come secondarily to the infestations. And some of us had pre-existing conditions which make it harder to get rid of or kill off the infestations. >> dox. and lyme testing >> > > >> > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts since october and im sure now thats why ive

been good.. Off all now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ------------------------------------ >> > > >> > >

January 27, 2012

I kept anything really important in plastic zip lock bags. I also tried putting them in the freezer, but still got bites after taking them out of the freezer. Any papers I absolutely didn't need to have or handle went into the plastic bags. Other papers I had to look at I actually put in my steam press. Paper can be pressed with an iron too, but I found even small books could be pressed and that seemed to kill all of them. No biters after that.From: "miteymaid" <emccallny@...>bird mites Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 3:59:34 PMSubject: Re: dox. and lyme testingI took out the papers I stored in my freezer when I moved here in August and all these microscopic mites that were still alive in my papers were flying out and biting me. I am going to have to sort the rest of them outside in northeast weather. I really always knew they hadn't died. Refrigerator freezers aren't all that cold anyway. How do you people keep your papers uninfected? One thing I know I'm being forced to have as little stuff as possible.> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > > Deedee> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > > I think you can get doxy from pharmacychecker.com without a > >>> script. I know how frustrating it is not to be able to get your > >>> meds through your doctor! This whole issue is a nightmare!> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > > > >>> >> > >> >>> >> > > dox. and lyme testing> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > > Can someone please tell me again how to order doxycycline > >>> and how to send for a test for lyme.... Ive been on 5 scripts > >>> since october and im sure now thats why ive been good.. Off all > >>> now and things are getting real bad.. Dont think i can talk my drs > >>> into giving me more right now... Thanks deedee> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > > ------------------------------------> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >

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