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Dan,

Just about anyone who prescribes antibiotics, it is a little spirochete. Though it depends upon the stage of the disease as old cases have long-term musculoskeletal symptoms among others. Probably go for the infectious disease specialist. Steve Lumsden

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Does anyone out there have a referral for an MD w/hospital affiliation that treats Lyme disease anywhere on the West Coast?

Dr B

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Dirk,can you give me link on coconut oil for controlling lyme,this is

an interesting comment.

Regards

Guy

> > Dear ,

> >

> > Sorry to hear it.

> >

> > Start fighting back with ozone every day, before the bugs can get a

> chance

> > to get a strong foothold.

> >

> > Best of Health!

> > Dr. Saul Pressman

> >

> > Attracked Lyme through sexual intercourse

> >

> > > Looks like I attracked Lyme through sexual intercourse.

> > >

> > > All kinds of aggrasive rashes on my body,

> > > my girlfriend was diagnosed with lyme, but we did not know it could

> be

> > transmitted through sexual intercourse.

> > >

> > > My immune systems is not so strong, so that is maybe why suddenly I

> had

> > rashes all over my body, big round spots back of my kneecaps, feverish

> etc.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection

> > > in the all-new Beta.

> > >

> > >

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Thanks Dick!!!

Dirk Chardet <chardetalvares@...> wrote:

,

You could take coconut oil or palm oil orally, make it the base for

cooking ; this will control the virus more than anything else.

Cheers,

D

PS You could also put it on your skin.

====================================================

Dear ,

You get diminishing returns with ozone as you increase concentration, so

an

over power machine is not going to make any difference. Time is an

important

factor.

The frequency of the generator has no bearing on the ozone that is

produced.

Avoid the antibiotics. They will not stop the Lyme bugs, but they will

damage your body's ability to fight, and they will plug your liver.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

Attracked Lyme through sexual intercourse

>

> > Looks like I attracked Lyme through sexual intercourse.

> >

> > All kinds of aggrasive rashes on my body,

> > my girlfriend was diagnosed with lyme, but we did not know it could

be

> transmitted through sexual intercourse.

> >

> > My immune systems is not so strong, so that is maybe why suddenly I

had

> rashes all over my body, big round spots back of my kneecaps, feverish

etc.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection

> > in the all-new Beta.

> >

> >

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Just to cheer you up, , I want to tell you that I am still amazed

when looking at the coats of my dogs. Last year when having Leish they

were nearly bold, after a few months of palm oil (with food and once a

week applied on the skin) they were cured and got the fur of polar

wolves. It has NEVER been this thick ... Protozoa (the Leish causing

agents) are far more difficult to treat than viruses and - for instance

- mycoplasms.

You might remember the story of the man in the final stage of Aids, who

paid for his funeral and then went to the jungle in S.America, to live

his 'last wish'. In the village in Surinam where he found himself, he

was given cooked coconut every morning . After 3 weeks he felt a lot

better and when back in the States he tested HIV-negative ..

He is still alive and healthy, 10 years later.

So, Lyme should not be too much of a problem.

Thinking of it, I cured one of my dogs many years ago from Borreliosis

(Lyme) with Artemisia tablets. I even have the plants now on my land.

All the best,

Dirk Chardet

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----

Van: oxyplus [mailto:oxyplus ] Namens

Doedens

Verzonden: Saturday, May 19, 2007 7:06 PM

Aan: oxyplus

Onderwerp: Re: lyme

Thanks Dick!!!

Dirk Chardet <chardetalvares@ <mailto:chardetalvares%40clix.pt> clix.pt>

wrote:

,

You could take coconut oil or palm oil orally, make it the base for

cooking ; this will control the virus more than anything else.

Cheers,

D

PS You could also put it on your skin.

====================================================

Dear ,

You get diminishing returns with ozone as you increase concentration, so

an

over power machine is not going to make any difference. Time is an

important

factor.

The frequency of the generator has no bearing on the ozone that is

produced.

Avoid the antibiotics. They will not stop the Lyme bugs, but they will

damage your body's ability to fight, and they will plug your liver.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

Attracked Lyme through sexual intercourse

>

> > Looks like I attracked Lyme through sexual intercourse.

> >

> > All kinds of aggrasive rashes on my body,

> > my girlfriend was diagnosed with lyme, but we did not know it could

be

> transmitted through sexual intercourse.

> >

> > My immune systems is not so strong, so that is maybe why suddenly I

had

> rashes all over my body, big round spots back of my kneecaps, feverish

etc.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection

> > in the all-new Beta.

> >

> >

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Just to cheer you up, , I want to tell you that I am still amazed

when looking at the coats of my dogs. Last year when having Leish they

were nearly bold, after a few months of palm oil (with food and once a

week applied on the skin) they were cured and got the fur of polar

wolves. It has NEVER been this thick ... Protozoa (the Leish causing

agents) are far more difficult to treat than viruses and - for instance

- mycoplasms.

You might remember the story of the man in the final stage of Aids, who

paid for his funeral and then went to the jungle in S.America, to live

his 'last wish'. In the village in Surinam where he found himself, he

was given cooked coconut every morning . After 3 weeks he felt a lot

better and when back in the States he tested HIV-negative ..

He is still alive and healthy, 10 years later.

So, Lyme should not be too much of a problem.

Thinking of it, I cured one of my dogs many years ago from Borreliosis

(Lyme) with Artemisia tablets. I even have the plants now on my land.

All the best,

Dirk Chardet

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----

Van: oxyplus [mailto:oxyplus ] Namens

Doedens

Verzonden: Saturday, May 19, 2007 7:06 PM

Aan: oxyplus

Onderwerp: Re: lyme

Thanks Dick!!!

Dirk Chardet <chardetalvares@ <mailto:chardetalvares%40clix.pt> clix.pt>

wrote:

,

You could take coconut oil or palm oil orally, make it the base for

cooking ; this will control the virus more than anything else.

Cheers,

D

PS You could also put it on your skin.

====================================================

Dear ,

You get diminishing returns with ozone as you increase concentration, so

an

over power machine is not going to make any difference. Time is an

important

factor.

The frequency of the generator has no bearing on the ozone that is

produced.

Avoid the antibiotics. They will not stop the Lyme bugs, but they will

damage your body's ability to fight, and they will plug your liver.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

Attracked Lyme through sexual intercourse

>

> > Looks like I attracked Lyme through sexual intercourse.

> >

> > All kinds of aggrasive rashes on my body,

> > my girlfriend was diagnosed with lyme, but we did not know it could

be

> transmitted through sexual intercourse.

> >

> > My immune systems is not so strong, so that is maybe why suddenly I

had

> rashes all over my body, big round spots back of my kneecaps, feverish

etc.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection

> > in the all-new Beta.

> >

> >

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The acids in coconut and palm oil kill 99% of bacteria, viruses,

mycoplasms, protozoa, molds, etc.

Besides, coconut oil gives a beautiful skin, boosts the immune system

and doesn't make fat ; our body cannot store these 'short chain fatty

acids' and burns them for energy.

When potato chips were still fried in coconut oil, people were healthier

and not obese.

When the American Soy Association decided that the (then) 3 B USD fat

market in the USA should be theirs, a smear campaign against coconut oil

was started.

The ASA won ; that's one of the reasons there are so many obese people

now.

DCH

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----

Van: oxyplus [mailto:oxyplus ] Namens

summitflyer2003

Verzonden: Saturday, May 19, 2007 3:50 PM

Aan: oxyplus

Onderwerp: Re: lyme

Dirk,can you give me link on coconut oil for controlling lyme,this is

an interesting comment.

Regards

Guy

> > Dear ,

> >

> > Sorry to hear it.

> >

> > Start fighting back with ozone every day, before the bugs can get a

> chance

> > to get a strong foothold.

> >

> > Best of Health!

> > Dr. Saul Pressman

> >

> > Attracked Lyme through sexual intercourse

> >

> > > Looks like I attracked Lyme through sexual intercourse.

> > >

> > > All kinds of aggrasive rashes on my body,

> > > my girlfriend was diagnosed with lyme, but we did not know it

could

> be

> > transmitted through sexual intercourse.

> > >

> > > My immune systems is not so strong, so that is maybe why suddenly

I

> had

> > rashes all over my body, big round spots back of my kneecaps,

feverish

> etc.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection

> > > in the all-new Beta.

> > >

> > >

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The acids in coconut and palm oil kill 99% of bacteria, viruses,

mycoplasms, protozoa, molds, etc.

Besides, coconut oil gives a beautiful skin, boosts the immune system

and doesn't make fat ; our body cannot store these 'short chain fatty

acids' and burns them for energy.

When potato chips were still fried in coconut oil, people were healthier

and not obese.

When the American Soy Association decided that the (then) 3 B USD fat

market in the USA should be theirs, a smear campaign against coconut oil

was started.

The ASA won ; that's one of the reasons there are so many obese people

now.

DCH

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----

Van: oxyplus [mailto:oxyplus ] Namens

summitflyer2003

Verzonden: Saturday, May 19, 2007 3:50 PM

Aan: oxyplus

Onderwerp: Re: lyme

Dirk,can you give me link on coconut oil for controlling lyme,this is

an interesting comment.

Regards

Guy

> > Dear ,

> >

> > Sorry to hear it.

> >

> > Start fighting back with ozone every day, before the bugs can get a

> chance

> > to get a strong foothold.

> >

> > Best of Health!

> > Dr. Saul Pressman

> >

> > Attracked Lyme through sexual intercourse

> >

> > > Looks like I attracked Lyme through sexual intercourse.

> > >

> > > All kinds of aggrasive rashes on my body,

> > > my girlfriend was diagnosed with lyme, but we did not know it

could

> be

> > transmitted through sexual intercourse.

> > >

> > > My immune systems is not so strong, so that is maybe why suddenly

I

> had

> > rashes all over my body, big round spots back of my kneecaps,

feverish

> etc.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ---------------------------------

> > > Give spam the boot. Take control with tough spam protection

> > > in the all-new Beta.

> > >

> > >

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I know. I had a doctor in Minnesota in 1989 tell me that I had Lyme

(instead of spondylitis) but the test came back negative.

Here is a presentation I found that was done by the doctor I'm seeing

tomorrow.

http://www.lymeinducedautism.com/images/Lymewhat_is_it_part_3,_LIA.pdf

If you are interested in the subject, you might want to look it over and

comment.

I am leaving for the airport in a few minutes. It is 14 degrees F below

zero.

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence Grim

Thanks-note there is no test for Lyme Disease.

CE Grim MD

On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:15 PM, Valarie wrote:

> Dr. Grim, here is a good website for Lyme disease information:

>

> http://www.columbia-lyme.org/index.html

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Got it and got about 1/3 way thru.

Obly 3º here in MIlwaukee.

CE

On Dec 15, 2008, at 5:19 PM, Valarie wrote:

> I know. I had a doctor in Minnesota in 1989 tell me that I had Lyme

> (instead of spondylitis) but the test came back negative.

>

> Here is a presentation I found that was done by the doctor I'm seeing

> tomorrow.

> http://www.lymeinducedautism.com/images/Lymewhat_is_it_part_3,_LIA.pdf

> If you are interested in the subject, you might want to look it

> over and

> comment.

>

> I am leaving for the airport in a few minutes. It is 14 degrees F

> below

> zero.

>

> Val

>

> From: hyperaldosteronism

> [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Clarence Grim

>

> Thanks-note there is no test for Lyme Disease.

>

> CE Grim MD

>

> On Dec 10, 2008, at 11:15 PM, Valarie wrote:

>

> > Dr. Grim, here is a good website for Lyme disease information:

> >

> > http://www.columbia-lyme.org/index.html

>

>

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Hi Val,

Thankyou for that link it was very interstesting i will read it again in awhile. My facial muscle roblem doesnt look like that, some times it does more than others but wen they di the mri it shows the muscles in my face are in a spasm, along with my neck..but when iam feeling a bit better you can hardly see anything. Especially since dropping salt people have ben saying how much better i look?! The muscle around my mouth where it keeps spasmin t keeps putting my jaw out of line. I cant open my outh properlyto go to the dentist, they refered me to maxiofcail due o this.

I can see when my neck tightens into the spasm and other times you cant really see anything?! THis has been partof the reasson i had one doctor saying i had a mental problem because he couldnt see it at that time. The problem is if i eat the foods which cause this, im in no fit state mentally or physcially to exlpain my self.

One specialist said it was a neuromuscular problem. From my experience da to day I think when my underlying problem is fixed it will to back to normal. It tightens up alot more at night time aswell.

Is this a symptom:

My hands go all wrinkly and dry like i have been swimmming. They dry out and then finley peel. I get this on my face aswell at times. It feels horrible but wish i knew what was causing it.

Also, does any one suffer yest infections, candidas? Iam seeing a GI specialis for this atbarts aswell.

Hope you are okay:0)

hyperaldosteronism From: val@...Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:44:48 -0700Subject: Lyme

Several species transmit Lyme. Here are some good pictures, including one of the facial palsy that can occur with Lyme. I have a very slight facial palsy.

http://arthritis.about.com/od/lyme/ig/Lyme-Disease-Photo-Gallery/

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Francis Bill

It is the deer tick that transmits Lymes. This tick is much smaller then other ticks.

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Hi Val,

Thankyou for that link it was very interstesting i will read it again in awhile. My facial muscle roblem doesnt look like that, some times it does more than others but wen they di the mri it shows the muscles in my face are in a spasm, along with my neck..but when iam feeling a bit better you can hardly see anything. Especially since dropping salt people have ben saying how much better i look?! The muscle around my mouth where it keeps spasmin t keeps putting my jaw out of line. I cant open my outh properlyto go to the dentist, they refered me to maxiofcail due o this.

I can see when my neck tightens into the spasm and other times you cant really see anything?! THis has been partof the reasson i had one doctor saying i had a mental problem because he couldnt see it at that time. The problem is if i eat the foods which cause this, im in no fit state mentally or physcially to exlpain my self.

One specialist said it was a neuromuscular problem. From my experience da to day I think when my underlying problem is fixed it will to back to normal. It tightens up alot more at night time aswell.

Is this a symptom:

My hands go all wrinkly and dry like i have been swimmming. They dry out and then finley peel. I get this on my face aswell at times. It feels horrible but wish i knew what was causing it.

Also, does any one suffer yest infections, candidas? Iam seeing a GI specialis for this atbarts aswell.

Hope you are okay:0)

hyperaldosteronism From: val@...Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:44:48 -0700Subject: Lyme

Several species transmit Lyme. Here are some good pictures, including one of the facial palsy that can occur with Lyme. I have a very slight facial palsy.

http://arthritis.about.com/od/lyme/ig/Lyme-Disease-Photo-Gallery/

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Francis Bill

It is the deer tick that transmits Lymes. This tick is much smaller then other ticks.

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Mandy, I have no idea why your hands and face dry up and wrinkle. I hope they can figure those things out

when you go into the hospital.

What foods do you eat that seem to cause your neck to go into

spasm?

Val

From: hyperaldosteronism

[mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Mandy Moseley

Thankyou for that link it was very interstesting i will read it again in

awhile. My facial muscle roblem doesnt look like that, some times it

does more than others but wen they di the mri it shows the muscles in my face

are in a spasm, along with my neck..but when iam feeling a bit better you can

hardly see anything. Especially since dropping salt people have ben saying

how much better i look?! The muscle around my mouth where it keeps

spasmin t keeps putting my jaw out of line. I cant open my outh

properlyto go to the dentist, they refered me to maxiofcail due o this.

I can see when my neck tightens into the spasm and other times you cant

really see anything?! THis has been partof the reasson i had one doctor

saying i had a mental problem because he couldnt see it at that time. The

problem is if i eat the foods which cause this, im in no fit state mentally or

physcially to exlpain my self.

One specialist said it was a neuromuscular problem. From my experience da

to day I think when my underlying problem is fixed it will to back to normal.

It tightens up alot more at night time aswell.

Is this a symptom:

My hands go all wrinkly and dry like i have been swimmming. They dry out

and then finley peel. I get this on my face aswell at times. It feels

horrible but wish i knew what was causing it.

Also, does any one suffer yest infections, candidas? Iam seeing a GI specialis

for this atbarts aswell.

Hope you are okay:0)

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i think its the salt

>

> Mandy, I have no idea why your hands and face dry up and wrinkle. I hope

> they can figure those things out when you go into the hospital.

>

> What foods do you eat that seem to cause your neck to go into spasm?

>

> Val

>

> From: hyperaldosteronism

> [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Mandy Moseley

>

> Thankyou for that link it was very interstesting i will read it again in

> awhile. My facial muscle roblem doesnt look like that, some times it does

> more than others but wen they di the mri it shows the muscles in my face are

> in a spasm, along with my neck..but when iam feeling a bit better you can

> hardly see anything. Especially since dropping salt people have ben saying

> how much better i look?! The muscle around my mouth where it keeps spasmin

> t keeps putting my jaw out of line. I cant open my outh properlyto go to

> the dentist, they refered me to maxiofcail due o this.

>

> I can see when my neck tightens into the spasm and other times you cant

> really see anything?! THis has been partof the reasson i had one doctor

> saying i had a mental problem because he couldnt see it at that time. The

> problem is if i eat the foods which cause this, im in no fit state mentally

> or physcially to exlpain my self.

>

> One specialist said it was a neuromuscular problem. From my experience da

> to day I think when my underlying problem is fixed it will to back to

> normal. It tightens up alot more at night time aswell.

>

> Is this a symptom:

>

> My hands go all wrinkly and dry like i have been swimmming. They dry out

> and then finley peel. I get this on my face aswell at times. It feels

> horrible but wish i knew what was causing it.

>

> Also, does any one suffer yest infections, candidas? Iam seeing a GI

> specialis for this atbarts aswell.

>

> Hope you are okay:0)

>

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No salt no swelling unless hives etc.CEOn Jan 13, 2010, at 5:38 AM, MandyM wrote:i think its the salt>> Mandy, I have no idea why your hands and face dry up and wrinkle. I hope> they can figure those things out when you go into the hospital.> > What foods do you eat that seem to cause your neck to go into spasm?> > Val> > From: hyperaldosteronism > [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Mandy Moseley> > Thankyou for that link it was very interstesting i will read it again in> awhile. My facial muscle roblem doesnt look like that, some times it does> more than others but wen they di the mri it shows the muscles in my face are> in a spasm, along with my neck..but when iam feeling a bit better you can> hardly see anything. Especially since dropping salt people have ben saying> how much better i look?! The muscle around my mouth where it keeps spasmin> t keeps putting my jaw out of line. I cant open my outh properlyto go to> the dentist, they refered me to maxiofcail due o this.> > I can see when my neck tightens into the spasm and other times you cant> really see anything?! THis has been partof the reasson i had one doctor> saying i had a mental problem because he couldnt see it at that time. The> problem is if i eat the foods which cause this, im in no fit state mentally> or physcially to exlpain my self.> > One specialist said it was a neuromuscular problem. From my experience da> to day I think when my underlying problem is fixed it will to back to> normal. It tightens up alot more at night time aswell.> > Is this a symptom:> > My hands go all wrinkly and dry like i have been swimmming. They dry out> and then finley peel. I get this on my face aswell at times. It feels> horrible but wish i knew what was causing it.> > Also, does any one suffer yest infections, candidas? Iam seeing a GI> specialis for this atbarts aswell.> > Hope you are okay:0)>

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If you have early DM aka metabolic syndrome aka eataholic syndrome or eating too much and have excess also you may be more likely to have fungal infections.Muscle spasm is classic for PA and low K. I forget if you K is low at the time you are having spasms?CE Grim MDOn Jan 12, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Mandy Moseley wrote:Hi Val, Thankyou for that link it was very interstesting i will read it again in awhile. My facial muscle roblem doesnt look like that, some times it does more than others but wen they di the mri it shows the muscles in my face are in a spasm, along with my neck..but when iam feeling a bit better you can hardly see anything. Especially since dropping salt people have ben saying how much better i look?! The muscle around my mouth where it keeps spasmin t keeps putting my jaw out of line. I cant open my outh properlyto go to the dentist, they refered me to maxiofcail due o this. I can see when my neck tightens into the spasm and other times you cant really see anything?! THis has been partof the reasson i had one doctor saying i had a mental problem because he couldnt see it at that time. The problem is if i eat the foods which cause this, im in no fit state mentally or physcially to exlpain my self. One specialist said it was a neuromuscular problem. From my experience da to day I think when my underlying problem is fixed it will to back to normal. It tightens up alot more at night time aswell. Is this a symptom: My hands go all wrinkly and dry like i have been swimmming. They dry out and then finley peel. I get this on my face aswell at times. It feels horrible but wish i knew what was causing it. Also, does any one suffer yest infections, candidas? Iam seeing a GI specialis for this atbarts aswell. Hope you are okay:0) hyperaldosteronism From: val@...Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:44:48 -0700Subject: Lyme Several species transmit Lyme. Here are some good pictures, including one of the facial palsy that can occur with Lyme. I have a very slight facial palsy.http://arthritis.about.com/od/lyme/ig/Lyme-Disease-Photo-Gallery/ Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Francis BillIt is the deer tick that transmits Lymes. This tick is much smaller then other ticks. We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now

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HI, Thank you

Early DM? What does that stand for? Eataholic syndrome? is that a joke, sorry not sure what this means. I have read about teh metabolic syndrome as I have also suffered ovarian cysts had one big one removed and a bout 4 burst and i have read that PCOS is part of teh metabolic syndrome. Ive been diagnosed with PCOS 4 times and then 4 times been told i dont have pcos (last time I was told I dont).

When i do the diet I have been doing (before i knew i had such a problem with salt) my food is very bland as its gluten free/yeast free/sugar free etc.

I do really crave salt at times, I was craving pickles and olives, which id never eaten before these cravings. I did salt my food with sea salt at meal times even more so whilst doing low carb and high protein as the diet is so boring and bland but helped me feel a bit better.

SPASM - When i go off the diet ive been doing, I can see the spasm, its looks even worse as my face is so puffy my face droops on the right around my eye, mouth, neck rigid..

When I have stuck to the diet it looks better and i look better until i eat..then i noticed, after putting salt on my foods, which dont affect me I start swelling as i drink water!! When i go to the toilet to pee teh swelling goes down a little but tehn my face is wonky again..

It would make sense i suppose Iam maybe peeing out the K, maybe this is causing my face, neck, arm, leg spasm...

It does make sense.

I want to do the dash diet but Iam not good with wheat and yeast due to fungal infection. As soon as I eat fruit I get such bad thrush and terrible discharge, sore mouth tounge, fungus at the base of my spine....so i will have to replace the carbs you have mentioned for whole grain rice.

Sorry if Iam confusing............

hyperaldosteronism From: lowerbp2@...Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:33:30 -0600Subject: Re: Lyme

If you have early DM aka metabolic syndrome aka eataholic syndrome or eating too much and have excess also you may be more likely to have fungal infections.

Muscle spasm is classic for PA and low K.

I forget if you K is low at the time you are having spasms?

CE Grim MD

On Jan 12, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Mandy Moseley wrote:

Hi Val, Thankyou for that link it was very interstesting i will read it again in awhile. My facial muscle roblem doesnt look like that, some times it does more than others but wen they di the mri it shows the muscles in my face are in a spasm, along with my neck..but when iam feeling a bit better you can hardly see anything. Especially since dropping salt people have ben saying how much better i look?! The muscle around my mouth where it keeps spasmin t keeps putting my jaw out of line. I cant open my outh properlyto go to the dentist, they refered me to maxiofcail due o this. I can see when my neck tightens into the spasm and other times you cant really see anything?! THis has been partof the reasson i had one doctor saying i had a mental problem because he couldnt see it at that time. The problem is if i eat the foods which cause this, im in no fit state mentally or physcially to exlpain my self. One specialist said it was a neuromuscular problem. From my experience da to day I think when my underlying problem is fixed it will to back to normal. It tightens up alot more at night time aswell. Is this a symptom: My hands go all wrinkly and dry like i have been swimmming. They dry out and then finley peel. I get this on my face aswell at times. It feels horrible but wish i knew what was causing it. Also, does any one suffer yest infections, candidas? Iam seeing a GI specialis for this atbarts aswell. Hope you are okay:0)

hyperaldosteronism From: val@...Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:44:48 -0700Subject: Lyme

Several species transmit Lyme. Here are some good pictures, including one of the facial palsy that can occur with Lyme. I have a very slight facial palsy.

http://arthritis.about.com/od/lyme/ig/Lyme-Disease-Photo-Gallery/

Val

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It is the deer tick that transmits Lymes. This tick is much smaller then other ticks.

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Some Dr's use " pre-diabetes " to warn of type 2, and maybe get the patient to

slow eating, lose weight, and exercise.

Based on a BG measurement and I guess BMI.

My neighbor's diet handout looks a lot like DASH, and it did work for her.

Regards

Re: Lyme

If you have early DM aka metabolic syndrome aka eataholic syndrome or eating

too much and have excess also you may be more likely to have fungal

infections.

Muscle spasm is classic for PA and low K.

I forget if you K is low at the time you are having spasms?

CE Grim MD

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Hi,

The thing is Iam not over weight. Iam tiny but I do have distention in my belly and a little belly fat, otehr than that my dress size changes during the day and my shoe size can be a size 3 or a size 4. When the water retention has gone I look thin (when iam bloated, retaining etc)..

> hyperaldosteronism > From: jwwright@...> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:52:12 -0800> Subject: Re: Lyme> > Some Dr's use "pre-diabetes" to warn of type 2, and maybe get the patient to> slow eating, lose weight, and exercise.> Based on a BG measurement and I guess BMI.> My neighbor's diet handout looks a lot like DASH, and it did work for her.> > Regards> > Re: Lyme> > > > If you have early DM aka metabolic syndrome aka eataholic syndrome or eating> too much and have excess also you may be more likely to have fungal> infections.> > > Muscle spasm is classic for PA and low K.> > > I forget if you K is low at the time you are having spasms?> CE Grim MD> > On Jan 12, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Mandy Moseley wrote:> > > > > > ------------------------------------> >

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Eataholic is no joke. It is a real disease IMHO.

Also salt is very addicting in some and it can be difficult to taper

it down. Many subjects I have studied on a metabolic unit with

different salt intakes complain bitterly when we put them on a normal

salt diet.

Doc when am I going to get off this low salt diet?

Sea salt is as deadly as any other NaCl. All salt is natural and

comes from the sea-but the sea salt folks want you to think it is

healthier.

The increase in Sx suggest you have PA which is worsened as you

increase salt intake. This spills out more K giving cramps, spasms,

nocturia etc.

CE Grim

On Jan 14, 2010, at 10:52 AM, jwwright wrote:

> Some Dr's use " pre-diabetes " to warn of type 2, and maybe get the

> patient to

> slow eating, lose weight, and exercise.

> Based on a BG measurement and I guess BMI.

> My neighbor's diet handout looks a lot like DASH, and it did work

> for her.

>

> Regards

>

> Re: Lyme

>

>

>

> If you have early DM aka metabolic syndrome aka eataholic syndrome

> or eating

> too much and have excess also you may be more likely to have fungal

> infections.

>

>

> Muscle spasm is classic for PA and low K.

>

>

> I forget if you K is low at the time you are having spasms?

> CE Grim MD

>

> On Jan 12, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Mandy Moseley wrote:

>

>

>

>

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Without excess salt in your diet you will not swell unless you have low albumin.CE Grim MDOn Jan 14, 2010, at 3:01 PM, Mandy Moseley wrote:Hi, The thing is Iam not over weight. Iam tiny but I do have distention in my belly and a little belly fat, otehr than that my dress size changes during the day and my shoe size can be a size 3 or a size 4. When the water retention has gone I look thin (when iam bloated, retaining etc).. > hyperaldosteronism > From: jwwrighteastex (DOT) net> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2010 08:52:12 -0800> Subject: Re: Lyme> > Some Dr's use "pre-diabetes" to warn of type 2, and maybe get the patient to> slow eating, lose weight, and exercise.> Based on a BG measurement and I guess BMI.> My neighbor's diet handout looks a lot like DASH, and it did work for her.> > Regards> > Re: Lyme> > > > If you have early DM aka metabolic syndrome aka eataholic syndrome or eating> too much and have excess also you may be more likely to have fungal> infections.> > > Muscle spasm is classic for PA and low K.> > > I forget if you K is low at the time you are having spasms?> CE Grim MD> > On Jan 12, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Mandy Moseley wrote:> > > > > > ------------------------------------> >

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All diseases start somewhere and evolve. In the old days we Dxed DM by measuring urine sugar but it has to be very high and we only Dxed the tip of the iceberg. HTN does the same. Once about 120/80 you have "early HTN" AKA prehypertension. But evidence of HTN damage to vessels and risk of stroke are already increase once about 1120 say. For every 10 mm increase above this risk doubles. Indeed if your BP has been running say 90 all the time an goes up to say 110 you now have personal HTN IMHO. On Jan 14, 2010, at 8:42 AM, Mandy Moseley wrote:HI, Thank you Early DM? What does that stand for? Eataholic syndrome? is that a joke, sorry not sure what this means. I have read about teh metabolic syndrome as I have also suffered ovarian cysts had one big one removed and a bout 4 burst and i have read that PCOS is part of teh metabolic syndrome. Ive been diagnosed with PCOS 4 times and then 4 times been told i dont have pcos (last time I was told I dont). When i do the diet I have been doing (before i knew i had such a problem with salt) my food is very bland as its gluten free/yeast free/sugar free etc. I do really crave salt at times, I was craving pickles and olives, which id never eaten before these cravings. I did salt my food with sea salt at meal times even more so whilst doing low carb and high protein as the diet is so boring and bland but helped me feel a bit better. SPASM - When i go off the diet ive been doing, I can see the spasm, its looks even worse as my face is so puffy my face droops on the right around my eye, mouth, neck rigid.. When I have stuck to the diet it looks better and i look better until i eat..then i noticed, after putting salt on my foods, which dont affect me I start swelling as i drink water!! When i go to the toilet to pee teh swelling goes down a little but tehn my face is wonky again.. It would make sense i suppose Iam maybe peeing out the K, maybe this is causing my face, neck, arm, leg spasm... It does make sense. I want to do the dash diet but Iam not good with wheat and yeast due to fungal infection. As soon as I eat fruit I get such bad thrush and terrible discharge, sore mouth tounge, fungus at the base of my spine....so i will have to replace the carbs you have mentioned for whole grain rice. Sorry if Iam confusing............ hyperaldosteronism From: lowerbp2macDate: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:33:30 -0600Subject: Re: Lyme If you have early DM aka metabolic syndrome aka eataholic syndrome or eating too much and have excess also you may be more likely to have fungal infections.Muscle spasm is classic for PA and low K. I forget if you K is low at the time you are having spasms?CE Grim MDOn Jan 12, 2010, at 3:32 PM, Mandy Moseley wrote:Hi Val, Thankyou for that link it was very interstesting i will read it again in awhile. My facial muscle roblem doesnt look like that, some times it does more than others but wen they di the mri it shows the muscles in my face are in a spasm, along with my neck..but when iam feeling a bit better you can hardly see anything. Especially since dropping salt people have ben saying how much better i look?! The muscle around my mouth where it keeps spasmin t keeps putting my jaw out of line. I cant open my outh properlyto go to the dentist, they refered me to maxiofcail due o this. I can see when my neck tightens into the spasm and other times you cant really see anything?! THis has been partof the reasson i had one doctor saying i had a mental problem because he couldnt see it at that time. The problem is if i eat the foods which cause this, im in no fit state mentally or physcially to exlpain my self. One specialist said it was a neuromuscular problem. From my experience da to day I think when my underlying problem is fixed it will to back to normal. It tightens up alot more at night time aswell. Is this a symptom: My hands go all wrinkly and dry like i have been swimmming. They dry out and then finley peel. I get this on my face aswell at times. It feels horrible but wish i knew what was causing it. Also, does any one suffer yest infections, candidas? Iam seeing a GI specialis for this atbarts aswell. Hope you are okay:0) hyperaldosteronism From: val@...Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 13:44:48 -0700Subject: Lyme Several species transmit Lyme. Here are some good pictures, including one of the facial palsy that can occur with Lyme. I have a very slight facial palsy.http://arthritis.about.com/od/lyme/ig/Lyme-Disease-Photo-Gallery/ Val From: hyperaldosteronism [mailto:hyperaldosteronism ] On Behalf Of Francis BillIt is the deer tick that transmits Lymes. This tick is much smaller then other ticks. We want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us nowWe want to hear all your funny, exciting and crazy Hotmail stories. Tell us now

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I dropped from 150 spiro to 75 spiro + 25 Inspra. My BP is running 105 - 110. Tomorrow, I'm going to drop spiro to 50

+ 25 Inspra. I'm on Levaquin and

Doryx. . Not sure what's going on and what

direction things will go. Brittles

still 50 - 75 percent decreased. Will

continue to track.

Val

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Interesting keep us posted. How long have u been dashing now?Tiped sad Send form miiPhone ;-)May your pressure be low!CE Grim MDSpecializing in DifficultHypertensionOn Jan 14, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Valarie <val@...> wrote:

I dropped from 150 spiro to 75 spiro + 25 Inspra. My BP is running 105 - 110. Tomorrow, I'm going to drop spiro to 50

+ 25 Inspra. I'm on Levaquin and

Doryx. . Not sure what's going on and what

direction things will go. Brittles

still 50 - 75 percent decreased. Will

continue to track.

Val

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I don't really DASH because it has too many calories.  Instead, I just don't eat salt and don't eat

any prepared foods.  We're really boring

-  meat, vegetables and maybe a sweet potato

or rice.  I did that religiously for

about two years.  I no longer chart my

food but at the time I took in about 800 mg/d. 

That gave me a urinary sodium too low to quantitate.

In the last few months, I've been eating a little more sodium

but I'd still guess I'm under 1500 mg.  I

occasionally have a sandwich of say, tomato, spinach and a little mayo.  I don't eat any deli meats because they're

all so salty.  I used to not even eat a

hamburger bun but have lightened up on things like that.  I continue with things like Kashi Autumn Light

for cereal, and I still place orders online from Healthy Choices.

I learned to make a mean meatball, wonderful ground pork/kale/potatoes

soup, and home made bread w/o salt.

So, my falling BP cannot be from low sodium.  Levaquin rather quickly dropped it and then

it picked up again when I went on Doryx. 

Now its down again. 

Val

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Interesting

keep us posted. How long have u been dashing now?

Tiped sad Send form mi

iPhone

;-)

May

your pressure be low!

CE

Grim MD

Specializing

in Difficult

Hypertension

On Jan 14, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Valarie <val@...>

wrote:

I dropped from 150 spiro to 75 spiro +

25 Inspra. My BP is running 105 - 110. Tomorrow, I'm going to drop

spiro to 50 + 25 Inspra. I'm on Levaquin and Doryx. . Not

sure what's going on and what direction things will go. Brittles still 50

- 75 percent decreased. Will continue to track.

Val

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