Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 WOW Jenni, That was a wonderful explanation. And WELCOME DAR!!! :-) Connie Re: Hi everyone Hi Dar and welcome! You will not find a more comforting or supporting group of people then on this list. One thing that I make sure I do is always put my hands on my abdomen. I want to make sure that my diaphragm is doing the breathing and not my chest. Here is a way to see if what your doing is right. If you lay flat on the floor, one way to make sure you are doing your breathing right is to place a book on your abdomen. When you breath out....your deep breath out through the golden straw, the book should slowly drop into the hollow of your abdomen (or in my case where the hollow should be LOL). When you breath in (your heavy sniffing through the nose) the book should rise. If it doesn't, you are breathing through your lungs only. If the book goes up your doing it right When you " pahhhhhhhhh " the book should drop. If the book drops during your " pahhhhhhhhhhh " then you are doing your pah right. Does that make sense? It's not how loud, or how correct sounding the pahh is, but rather whether you are doing the breathing right. If you do the breathing right the pah will just come naturally. Also remember it is not forceful....it shouldn't hurt and it should relax your body not tighten it up. We have a tendency to tighten up the shoulders when we are breathing this way, make sure you don't do that Oh! Also make sure that your back is flat on the floor when you try this...don't bow your back. You basically want your belly button to touch your backbone tee hee with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Christian Air Force Mom and Dads Group CAFMandD/ Support for women going through menopause. seasons-of-life/ Hi everyone Hi I'm new to this Life Lift, but after being in contact with Rashelle a few times already, I find her very kind and very willing to help. I am having a little trouble getting my exhale done properly (the puh part). Did anyone else have that problem to start with. If so, any ideas on how to get it right? Rashelle gave me some tips but just wondered if anyone else came up with any little tips or tricks to get it right. Should I be bent over to do it properly? Any ideas would be gratefully accepted. Thanks. Dar What can changing the way you breathe do for you? Everything! See why tens of thousands agree, Life Lift is the best! http://www.oxygenzoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Hi Bonnie, I missed something, what is probiotics?? Connie :-) Re: Re: Hi everyone In a message dated 9/2/2004 8:02:10 AM Mountain Daylight Time, the-good-book@... writes: I gave up my hollow when I had kids I VAGUELY remember having something like that...ROTFL Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Hi Dar, That is not terrible, I quit smoking 3 years ago and have gained 30 ( I am 53) I think being in menopause is part of it too. Connie :-) Re: Hi Everyone Can you tell me what ROFL means??? Thanks. My 3 kids did a bit to my figure as did getting my tubes tied the old way (cut vertically down the belly). But the worst was when I quit smoking 12 years ago and gained 60 pounds! Isn't that terrible? I should have worked harder at getting it off while I was younger as now, at 52, it is harder to get rid of it. I also have arthritis so it makes it harder to do ordinary exercise. That's why I sent for LL and I'm hoping it helps. Right now I am too busy to get right into it, but I am practicing the breathing itself and hope to start the rest soon. I will try the suggestion about lying on the floor with a book. Thanks again. Dar > ROFL I gave up my hollow when I had kids. hmmmmmm I guess it was a good trade tee hee > > Just kidding, my kids are the best...just ask me *grin* > > with love, > Jenni > Proud Air Force Mom! > May God guide and protect our troops! > > Christian Air Force Mom and Dads Group > CAFMandD/ > > Support for women going through menopause. > seasons-of-life/ What can changing the way you breathe do for you? Everything! See why tens of thousands agree, Life Lift is the best! http://www.oxygenzoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 probiotics: I guess they are organisms such as acidophilus (and I imagine there are more " varieties " , but what I am currently taking is acidophilus, 2.9 billion live organisms per capsule -- twice a day, need to bump it up to 3 times a day). Apparently, your " gut " has healthy intestinal flora growing in it -- but when you disturb this (for example, when you take antibiotics) it gets out of whack -- and some of us need to re-establish it. There are a lot of things attributed to an " unhealthy " group, such as yeast infections, etc. Yogurt has this stuff in it naturally (but at much lower concentrations). I also think that most people just re-establish the right balance without any extra effort. However, based on my long-standing stomach/bowel problems, it was suggested that I start taking this stuff -- and this, along with certain of the LL exercises (I particularly like the one where you push in on your abdomen wherever it hurts, along with the LL breath) has really done well for me. I haven't had any stomach problems for several weeks now (which is a major accomplishment), I am " regular " for the first time in my life, and I can actually hold my belly in (rather than have a painfully bloated belly much of the time) whenever I think about it. Bonnie Re: Re: Hi everyone In a message dated 9/2/2004 8:02:10 AM Mountain Daylight Time, the-good-book@... writes: I gave up my hollow when I had kids I VAGUELY remember having something like that...ROTFL Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Kiki you keep me-ROTFL!!! Thanks Connie :-) Re: Re: Hi Everyone Hi Dar, ROTFL=rolling on the floor laughing. I've only had 2 children, but they were 14 months apart. I was back in shape, in fact BETTER shape, when I found out about my daughter coming. SHE was the one who did me in! I retained so much water with my son, it was ridicules, but with her, oh my stars! It was actually funny to see what was gonna be bigger from day to day, boobs or tummy...LOL I had c-sections with both, so that didn't help. My Dr was old and he did the old, up and down cut, no nice bikini cut for me I work hard to stay in the best shape I can, but still battle the 'soft' tummy as I call it and my boobs will NEVER be the same. I'm waiting to win the lottery to have them fixed...LOL Keep on keepin' on hon, take your time, learn the technique, and you'll see results! BTW [by the way} welcome to the nicest, friendlyest board on the net! Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 *blush* thanks Connie. I was hoping it was understandable! with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Christian Air Force Mom and Dads Group CAFMandD/ Support for women going through menopause. seasons-of-life/ Hi everyone Hi I'm new to this Life Lift, but after being in contact with Rashelle a few times already, I find her very kind and very willing to help. I am having a little trouble getting my exhale done properly (the puh part). Did anyone else have that problem to start with. If so, any ideas on how to get it right? Rashelle gave me some tips but just wondered if anyone else came up with any little tips or tricks to get it right. Should I be bent over to do it properly? Any ideas would be gratefully accepted. Thanks. Dar What can changing the way you breathe do for you? Everything! See why tens of thousands agree, Life Lift is the best! http://www.oxygenzoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 It most certainly was! I like the laying on the floor best because I have back problems easily. I am going to do the book thing just to make sure I am doing it right! :-) Connie Re: Hi everyone *blush* thanks Connie. I was hoping it was understandable! with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Christian Air Force Mom and Dads Group CAFMandD/ Support for women going through menopause. seasons-of-life/ Hi everyone Hi I'm new to this Life Lift, but after being in contact with Rashelle a few times already, I find her very kind and very willing to help. I am having a little trouble getting my exhale done properly (the puh part). Did anyone else have that problem to start with. If so, any ideas on how to get it right? Rashelle gave me some tips but just wondered if anyone else came up with any little tips or tricks to get it right. Should I be bent over to do it properly? Any ideas would be gratefully accepted. Thanks. Dar What can changing the way you breathe do for you? Everything! See why tens of thousands agree, Life Lift is the best! http://www.oxygenzoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Coops! Am I talking too much KIKI ?? I am just having a slower day at work. Sorry, Connie :-( Re: Re: Hi Everyone In a message dated 9/2/2004 12:43:36 PM Mountain Daylight Time, the-good-book@... writes: Don't you just love someone who has a comment for everything LOL! I think there are 4 or 5 of us who resemble that remark, Jenni...LOL But that's all part of the wonderfulness of this group, to me anyway! Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Oh Bonnie, A few years ago I went to see an all natural health Dr. and she recommended acidophilus for my bloated tummy, to help get rid of the excess yeast she said I had. She told me that my bloated stomach was a symptom of excess yeast. I had forgotten all about that. Maybe I had better go to the health food store and get some more to try!., Thank You, Connie :-) Re: Re: Hi everyone In a message dated 9/2/2004 8:02:10 AM Mountain Daylight Time, the-good-book@... writes: I gave up my hollow when I had kids I VAGUELY remember having something like that...ROTFL Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Connie, I've also seen quite a bit on oil of oregano for yeast problems -- and in fact, I've started my youngest daughter on it (she has recurring bouts of strep) plus the acidophilus. I don't think I would take the oil of oregano, though, unless I spoke first with a " natural " doctor -- someone who knows what they're talking about -- apparently you can get some fairly nasty " die off " symptoms as it starts to work. And I think it might interfere with some prescribed meds, but I'm not sure. Do you ever get angry as I do with the AMA -- lots of great doctors (and I've been lucky enough to have some of the really good ones) but typically force-fed in their education to believe that drugs are the ONLY answer? Rather than trying natural remedies (such as diet, exercise, correct breathing, herbs, etc.) first??? Enough soap boxing....Bonnie Re: Re: Hi everyone In a message dated 9/2/2004 8:02:10 AM Mountain Daylight Time, the-good-book@... writes: I gave up my hollow when I had kids I VAGUELY remember having something like that...ROTFL Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 I tried taking it and I am not noticing anything. What brand are you taking Bonnie? I know the health food store tried to get me buy a MUCH more expensive brand but at the time I was just trying it out. I wonder if it is the way it is made. with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Christian Air Force Mom and Dads Group CAFMandD/ Support for women going through menopause. seasons-of-life/ Re: Re: Hi everyone In a message dated 9/2/2004 8:02:10 AM Mountain Daylight Time, the-good-book@... writes: I gave up my hollow when I had kids I VAGUELY remember having something like that...ROTFL Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 I'll have to tell you the brand tomorrow -- it's at home. Do remember that the stuff must be kept refrigerated, and it should be approx. 3 billion organisms per capsule... Bonnie Re: Re: Hi everyone I tried taking it and I am not noticing anything. What brand are you taking Bonnie? I know the health food store tried to get me buy a MUCH more expensive brand but at the time I was just trying it out. I wonder if it is the way it is made. with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Christian Air Force Mom and Dads Group CAFMandD/ Support for women going through menopause. seasons-of-life/ Re: Re: Hi everyone In a message dated 9/2/2004 8:02:10 AM Mountain Daylight Time, the-good-book@... writes: I gave up my hollow when I had kids I VAGUELY remember having something like that...ROTFL Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Not soap boxing Bonnie, a sad but true fact. If I mention anything " natural or Herbs to my Dr. she has a fit! Not enough testing she says.....hello some of these herbs have been used since the beginning of time! LOL Connie :-) Re: Re: Hi everyone In a message dated 9/2/2004 8:02:10 AM Mountain Daylight Time, the-good-book@... writes: I gave up my hollow when I had kids I VAGUELY remember having something like that...ROTFL Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2004 Report Share Posted September 2, 2004 Connie, When my oldest child was teething (back around 1971) her doctor suggested rubbing whiskey on her gums -- his reasoning: " Alcohol has been around and 'tested' on the human race for far longer than anything you can get at a pharmacy, and most of the human race doesn't have a negative reaction to a small amount... " Can you imagine that notion today?! A doctor would be lynched if he dared suggest allowing a child even the most minute bit of alcohol -- yet he can routinely prescribe Ritalin, etc. -- far harsher drugs with as-yet-unknown side-effects! I am NOT against modern pharmaceuticals, I think some of the drugs are nothing short of miraculous -- but I do think that frequently they are over-prescribed, and that less-dangerous alternatives aren't first tried. For example, my mother has peripheral neuropathy. Her neurologist immediately prescribed neurotonine, a fairly harsh drug with many side-effects. And she has many of the side effects (bloat/distension, tiredness, migraines) -- yet he's unwilling to try anything else, says she'll just have to learn to live with the side-effects. When I suggested that she ramp the dosage (I found a LOT of web information) he wasn't at all interested (so she's going to do it on her own); a possible solution is a diuretic (he said yesterday that he didn't " have time " to prescribe one that would work for her, he'd look at that possibility late Sept. at her next appt! -- and she has gone from wearing a size 6 panties to a 10, in the space of about 4 months! -- he told her to quit eating so much!). Another doctor just discovered carpal tunnel in both her wrists, and she'll have surgery this month -- her neurologist wouldn't consider that as a possibility, but it seems to me that a lot of her pain could be coming from that and thus she'd need less of the neurotonine.... I guess I'd better not get started -- I'll really start ranting!!!! Bonnie Re: Re: Hi everyone In a message dated 9/2/2004 8:02:10 AM Mountain Daylight Time, the-good-book@... writes: I gave up my hollow when I had kids I VAGUELY remember having something like that...ROTFL Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 I'm trying! ROTFL! Dar > HAHAHA Connie! You can never talk to much And I think I do a pretty good > job at keeping up with you! I wonder if that's why we don't hear form all > the others on the list, cuz WE'RE {You, me, Bonnie, both s, did I forget > anyone?} always talking. No one else can get a word in...LOL Hey Dar, can ya > keep up? > > Kiki > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 In a message dated 9/2/2004 6:10:06 PM Mountain Daylight Time, the-good-book@... writes: The funny part is Kiki that the natural forms you are taking are the original " drugs " that doctors prescribed years ago. Go figure LOL We've definitely come full circle. Oh I know Jenni! I've always hated taking any kind of perscribed meds, with exceptions of course To bad more people don't realize that they can be better without all the side effects... Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 In a message dated 9/2/2004 6:52:19 PM Mountain Daylight Time, the-good-book@... writes: What am I ... chopped liver? Oh my stars Jenni!!! How could I have left YOU off the list!!! Can you ever forgive me? What can I do to make this up to you? LOL Well I feel really dumb right now. Ummmm, and no, you aren't chopped liver, more like filet migion :) Love ya, Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 What am I ... chopped liver? with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Christian Air Force Mom and Dads Group CAFMandD/ Support for women going through menopause. seasons-of-life/ Re: Re: Hi Everyone HAHAHA Connie! You can never talk to much And I think I do a pretty good job at keeping up with you! I wonder if that's why we don't hear form all the others on the list, cuz WE'RE {You, me, Bonnie, both s, did I forget anyone?} always talking. No one else can get a word in...LOL Hey Dar, can ya keep up? Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 The funny part is Kiki that the natural forms you are taking are the original " drugs " that doctors prescribed years ago. Go figure LOL We've definitely come full circle. with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Christian Air Force Mom and Dads Group CAFMandD/ Support for women going through menopause. seasons-of-life/ Re: Re: Hi everyone I'm a firm believer in herbs and natural! I've been put on drugs for a 'mental' problem, but they only work so long and then you have to go stronger. I was on VERY strong meds and I just didn't like feeling no emotion, not caring about anything. I've got an arsenal of natural products now that seem to be working and I actually feel emotions! I'm on who refuses to believe as Drs would have us, that they are gods and know everything and drugs are the way to go! It's all a guessing game... Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 You girls have had me rolling today. :-) Thanks for the fun!!!! Love, Liz --- On Thu, 2 Sep 2004 09:01:47 -0500 " The Good Book " <the-good-book@...> writes: ROFL I gave up my hollow when I had kids. hmmmmmm I guess it was a good trade tee hee Just kidding, my kids are the best...just ask me *grin* with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 I so agree Jenni Thanks for reminding us! R Re: Hi Everyone Can you tell me what ROFL means??? Thanks. My 3 kids did a bit to my figure as did getting my tubes tied the old way (cut vertically down the belly). But the worst was when I quit smoking 12 years ago and gained 60 pounds! Isn't that terrible? I should have worked harder at getting it off while I was younger as now, at 52, it is harder to get rid of it. I also have arthritis so it makes it harder to do ordinary exercise. That's why I sent for LL and I'm hoping it helps. Right now I am too busy to get right into it, but I am practicing the breathing itself and hope to start the rest soon. I will try the suggestion about lying on the floor with a book. Thanks again. Dar > ROFL I gave up my hollow when I had kids. hmmmmmm I guess it was a good trade tee hee > > Just kidding, my kids are the best...just ask me *grin* > > with love, > Jenni > Proud Air Force Mom! > May God guide and protect our troops! > > Christian Air Force Mom and Dads Group > CAFMandD/ > > Support for women going through menopause. > seasons-of-life/ What can changing the way you breathe do for you? Everything! See why tens of thousands agree, Life Lift is the best! http://www.oxygenzoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 In a message dated 9/3/2004 10:51:01 AM Mountain Daylight Time, cmiskini@... writes: Definitely filet migion!!! Connie :-) YEAAAA!!!! You got the spelling right! LOL As soon as I sent that out, I realized I hadn't... Luckily Jenni knew what I meant Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Thanks Connie! You just helped make my day brighter {{{{{{{{{Connie}}}}}}}}} Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 Bonnie, Thank you for taking the time to send the info. I'm going to go check it out. If it helps my daughter, that would be such a blessing! Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2004 Report Share Posted September 3, 2004 You just made it up to me *huge smile* with love, Jenni Proud Air Force Mom! May God guide and protect our troops! Christian Air Force Mom and Dads Group CAFMandD/ Support for women going through menopause. seasons-of-life/ Re: Re: Hi Everyone In a message dated 9/2/2004 6:52:19 PM Mountain Daylight Time, the-good-book@... writes: What am I ... chopped liver? Oh my stars Jenni!!! How could I have left YOU off the list!!! Can you ever forgive me? What can I do to make this up to you? LOL Well I feel really dumb right now. Ummmm, and no, you aren't chopped liver, more like filet migion :) Love ya, Kiki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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