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At 07:05 AM 7/18/2005, thewaterpool wrote:

>That's good to know Carolyn. I was hoping that a good DVD workout

>along with normal regular exercise such as walking and swimming would

>get me fit and keep me there.

yes it will sandy!!! it all comes down to being consistent. just

casually working out one day here or there is not going to cut it. you

have to workout regularly. it doesnt matter if you use a dvd or walk

outside or go to a gym. it only matters that you just do it!

also what you eat plays a huge part in getting and staying fit. i worked

out consistently (and hard!) for a couple of years and my weight didnt

budge until i started doing weight watchers which forced me to eliminate

certain foods and to cut back on portion sizes. then, the weight started

falling off. after i lost a bunch of pounds, i stopped counting points

and promptly gained back 10 pounds! eek! so now im working a new program

of exercise and food guidelines in order to lose that again.

weight watchers is fabulous but counting points gets to be tedious. im

much smarter from doing it though and am applying things that i learned

from WW to my new program.

so please remember that this is not going to be easy, but the rewards that

you will get from doing your workouts and changing your diet will be

IMMENSE!! (and these are not just physical rewards but psychological ones

as well)

:*carolyn.

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~

Welcome to the group!

My daughter with DS is 20 years old - and I do remember the days of

finger foods - seems to me that the one always successful item for her was

Cheerios... the down side of that was that she has now had Cheerios with

sliced banana on it for breakfast nearly every day of her life ... :-)

I am also in Northern California - Stockton... where it is set to be 104º

today...

Kathy

mom to and many others...

http://www.waycool.net/sarah

< new grandma to Christian - who is ten days old today! I got to babysit

last night.....>

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On 8/6/2005 at 3:56 PM newmearth opined:

| Hi,

|

| I am new to the UND group, my son is 11 mos. with DS.

| He has been a blessing in disguise!

|

| He recently started sitting up, at ten months; a week later started he

| began " creeping " !

|

| We give him finger foods, which he loves! But 90% of it ends up on the

| tray or floor. So we still have to spoon feed him, which can be a

| challenge! He wants so much to eat the finger foods! Which would be

| fine except almost none of it ends up in his stomach!

|

| Recenly we started giving him blueberries, and lo-and-behold! He can

| not only pick them up and put them in his mouth (they are tiny, after

| all) he can chew AND SWALLOW them! This is the first food he has been

| able to both chew and swallow!

|

| So my question is, what other foods have you tried that were more

| successful, in the beginning stages, of self feeding? Or maybe he has

| finally figured out chewing and swallowing (we started finger foods at

| seven months). How old was your child when they could successfully eat

| finger foods?

|

| I have lots more questions but will save them for another post another

| day!

|

| N. in sunny Northern California

|

|

|

|

|

| Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

| messages to go to the sender of the message.

|

[Guest guest]

~

Welcome to the group!

My daughter with DS is 20 years old - and I do remember the days of

finger foods - seems to me that the one always successful item for her was

Cheerios... the down side of that was that she has now had Cheerios with

sliced banana on it for breakfast nearly every day of her life ... :-)

I am also in Northern California - Stockton... where it is set to be 104º

today...

Kathy

mom to and many others...

http://www.waycool.net/sarah

< new grandma to Christian - who is ten days old today! I got to babysit

last night.....>

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 8/6/2005 at 3:56 PM newmearth opined:

| Hi,

|

| I am new to the UND group, my son is 11 mos. with DS.

| He has been a blessing in disguise!

|

| He recently started sitting up, at ten months; a week later started he

| began " creeping " !

|

| We give him finger foods, which he loves! But 90% of it ends up on the

| tray or floor. So we still have to spoon feed him, which can be a

| challenge! He wants so much to eat the finger foods! Which would be

| fine except almost none of it ends up in his stomach!

|

| Recenly we started giving him blueberries, and lo-and-behold! He can

| not only pick them up and put them in his mouth (they are tiny, after

| all) he can chew AND SWALLOW them! This is the first food he has been

| able to both chew and swallow!

|

| So my question is, what other foods have you tried that were more

| successful, in the beginning stages, of self feeding? Or maybe he has

| finally figured out chewing and swallowing (we started finger foods at

| seven months). How old was your child when they could successfully eat

| finger foods?

|

| I have lots more questions but will save them for another post another

| day!

|

| N. in sunny Northern California

|

|

|

|

|

| Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

| messages to go to the sender of the message.

|

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Ahhhhh, the finger food stage. That's when I was so thankful we had a

dog, who would sit under the high chair and clean the floor as fast as

it hit, LOL. I think they key with finger food, especially at the

beginning, is not so much the child getting " successful " (because that

will come with practice), but you getting the spoonfuls of " real " food

in while he is distracted by chasing the blueberries rolling around on

the tray :-) If I remember correctly (which I may not because my kids

tell me I'm old), it takes awhile before a meal of finger food will

sustain a growing baby :-) We had lots of luck with pretty much any

seasonal ripe fruit (peaches, pears, cantaloupe, blueberries, banannas,

cut up grapes, etc), cut into small cubes, as well as things like frozen

peas (sometimes they got thawed completely, often they were rinsed for a

few seconds to take the chill off, and then tossed onto the tray),

cooked small pasta shapes (not too mushy.... can't be picked up), pieces

of cooked chicken, Cheerios and Kix cereal. I pretty much tried little

bits of whatever we were eating..... all my kids ate " table " food early,

be it chopped up in a food chopper or cut into bits. As long as it was

fairly soft, we tried it. Crackers are later, but you have to really

watch to see what size piece he's bitten off Those teething biscuits

are fun for baby, but make a HUGE mess (or at least my kids smeared them

all over themselves and the high chair)

Good luck..... it's great that is showing so much desire to be

independent......it will serve him will in the future, even if it's

driving you nuts now, LOL.

, mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5)

formerly from N.Cal, now in sunny San Diego

newmearth wrote:

>Hi,

>

>I am new to the UND group, my son is 11 mos. with DS.

>He has been a blessing in disguise!

>

>He recently started sitting up, at ten months; a week later started he

>began " creeping " !

>

>We give him finger foods, which he loves! But 90% of it ends up on the

>tray or floor. So we still have to spoon feed him, which can be a

>challenge! He wants so much to eat the finger foods! Which would be

>fine except almost none of it ends up in his stomach!

>

>Recenly we started giving him blueberries, and lo-and-behold! He can

>not only pick them up and put them in his mouth (they are tiny, after

>all) he can chew AND SWALLOW them! This is the first food he has been

>able to both chew and swallow!

>

>So my question is, what other foods have you tried that were more

>successful, in the beginning stages, of self feeding? Or maybe he has

>finally figured out chewing and swallowing (we started finger foods at

>seven months). How old was your child when they could successfully eat

>finger foods?

>

>I have lots more questions but will save them for another post another

>day!

>

> N. in sunny Northern California

>

>

>

>

>

>Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages

to go to the sender of the message.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Ahhhhh, the finger food stage. That's when I was so thankful we had a

dog, who would sit under the high chair and clean the floor as fast as

it hit, LOL. I think they key with finger food, especially at the

beginning, is not so much the child getting " successful " (because that

will come with practice), but you getting the spoonfuls of " real " food

in while he is distracted by chasing the blueberries rolling around on

the tray :-) If I remember correctly (which I may not because my kids

tell me I'm old), it takes awhile before a meal of finger food will

sustain a growing baby :-) We had lots of luck with pretty much any

seasonal ripe fruit (peaches, pears, cantaloupe, blueberries, banannas,

cut up grapes, etc), cut into small cubes, as well as things like frozen

peas (sometimes they got thawed completely, often they were rinsed for a

few seconds to take the chill off, and then tossed onto the tray),

cooked small pasta shapes (not too mushy.... can't be picked up), pieces

of cooked chicken, Cheerios and Kix cereal. I pretty much tried little

bits of whatever we were eating..... all my kids ate " table " food early,

be it chopped up in a food chopper or cut into bits. As long as it was

fairly soft, we tried it. Crackers are later, but you have to really

watch to see what size piece he's bitten off Those teething biscuits

are fun for baby, but make a HUGE mess (or at least my kids smeared them

all over themselves and the high chair)

Good luck..... it's great that is showing so much desire to be

independent......it will serve him will in the future, even if it's

driving you nuts now, LOL.

, mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5)

formerly from N.Cal, now in sunny San Diego

newmearth wrote:

>Hi,

>

>I am new to the UND group, my son is 11 mos. with DS.

>He has been a blessing in disguise!

>

>He recently started sitting up, at ten months; a week later started he

>began " creeping " !

>

>We give him finger foods, which he loves! But 90% of it ends up on the

>tray or floor. So we still have to spoon feed him, which can be a

>challenge! He wants so much to eat the finger foods! Which would be

>fine except almost none of it ends up in his stomach!

>

>Recenly we started giving him blueberries, and lo-and-behold! He can

>not only pick them up and put them in his mouth (they are tiny, after

>all) he can chew AND SWALLOW them! This is the first food he has been

>able to both chew and swallow!

>

>So my question is, what other foods have you tried that were more

>successful, in the beginning stages, of self feeding? Or maybe he has

>finally figured out chewing and swallowing (we started finger foods at

>seven months). How old was your child when they could successfully eat

>finger foods?

>

>I have lots more questions but will save them for another post another

>day!

>

> N. in sunny Northern California

>

>

>

>

>

>Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages

to go to the sender of the message.

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/6/2005 11:37:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

leslie-kerrigan@... writes:

Ahhhhh, the finger food stage. That's when I was so thankful we had a

dog, who would sit under the high chair and clean the floor as fast as

it hit, LOL.

Me too, that's when we nicknamed our golden retriever " Hoover " lol.

Loree

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/6/2005 11:37:04 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

leslie-kerrigan@... writes:

Ahhhhh, the finger food stage. That's when I was so thankful we had a

dog, who would sit under the high chair and clean the floor as fast as

it hit, LOL.

Me too, that's when we nicknamed our golden retriever " Hoover " lol.

Loree

[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome from PA. My son Nic is 8 y.o.

I remember our OT saying anything that dissolves quickly is best for starters.

Cheerios or any kind of cracker-type foods.

Di

Re: New to Group

~

Welcome to the group!

My daughter with DS is 20 years old - and I do remember the days of

finger foods - seems to me that the one always successful item for her was

Cheerios... the down side of that was that she has now had Cheerios with

sliced banana on it for breakfast nearly every day of her life ... :-)

I am also in Northern California - Stockton... where it is set to be 104º

today...

Kathy

mom to and many others...

http://www.waycool.net/sarah

< new grandma to Christian - who is ten days old today! I got to babysit

last night.....>

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 8/6/2005 at 3:56 PM newmearth opined:

| Hi,

|

| I am new to the UND group, my son is 11 mos. with DS.

| He has been a blessing in disguise!

|

| He recently started sitting up, at ten months; a week later started he

| began " creeping " !

|

| We give him finger foods, which he loves! But 90% of it ends up on the

| tray or floor. So we still have to spoon feed him, which can be a

| challenge! He wants so much to eat the finger foods! Which would be

| fine except almost none of it ends up in his stomach!

|

| Recenly we started giving him blueberries, and lo-and-behold! He can

| not only pick them up and put them in his mouth (they are tiny, after

| all) he can chew AND SWALLOW them! This is the first food he has been

| able to both chew and swallow!

|

| So my question is, what other foods have you tried that were more

| successful, in the beginning stages, of self feeding? Or maybe he has

| finally figured out chewing and swallowing (we started finger foods at

| seven months). How old was your child when they could successfully eat

| finger foods?

|

| I have lots more questions but will save them for another post another

| day!

|

| N. in sunny Northern California

|

|

|

|

|

| Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

| messages to go to the sender of the message.

|

[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome from PA. My son Nic is 8 y.o.

I remember our OT saying anything that dissolves quickly is best for starters.

Cheerios or any kind of cracker-type foods.

Di

Re: New to Group

~

Welcome to the group!

My daughter with DS is 20 years old - and I do remember the days of

finger foods - seems to me that the one always successful item for her was

Cheerios... the down side of that was that she has now had Cheerios with

sliced banana on it for breakfast nearly every day of her life ... :-)

I am also in Northern California - Stockton... where it is set to be 104º

today...

Kathy

mom to and many others...

http://www.waycool.net/sarah

< new grandma to Christian - who is ten days old today! I got to babysit

last night.....>

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 8/6/2005 at 3:56 PM newmearth opined:

| Hi,

|

| I am new to the UND group, my son is 11 mos. with DS.

| He has been a blessing in disguise!

|

| He recently started sitting up, at ten months; a week later started he

| began " creeping " !

|

| We give him finger foods, which he loves! But 90% of it ends up on the

| tray or floor. So we still have to spoon feed him, which can be a

| challenge! He wants so much to eat the finger foods! Which would be

| fine except almost none of it ends up in his stomach!

|

| Recenly we started giving him blueberries, and lo-and-behold! He can

| not only pick them up and put them in his mouth (they are tiny, after

| all) he can chew AND SWALLOW them! This is the first food he has been

| able to both chew and swallow!

|

| So my question is, what other foods have you tried that were more

| successful, in the beginning stages, of self feeding? Or maybe he has

| finally figured out chewing and swallowing (we started finger foods at

| seven months). How old was your child when they could successfully eat

| finger foods?

|

| I have lots more questions but will save them for another post another

| day!

|

| N. in sunny Northern California

|

|

|

|

|

| Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

| messages to go to the sender of the message.

|

[Guest guest]

Hi and welcome from PA. My son Nic is 8 y.o.

I remember our OT saying anything that dissolves quickly is best for starters.

Cheerios or any kind of cracker-type foods.

Di

Re: New to Group

~

Welcome to the group!

My daughter with DS is 20 years old - and I do remember the days of

finger foods - seems to me that the one always successful item for her was

Cheerios... the down side of that was that she has now had Cheerios with

sliced banana on it for breakfast nearly every day of her life ... :-)

I am also in Northern California - Stockton... where it is set to be 104º

today...

Kathy

mom to and many others...

http://www.waycool.net/sarah

< new grandma to Christian - who is ten days old today! I got to babysit

last night.....>

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR ***********

On 8/6/2005 at 3:56 PM newmearth opined:

| Hi,

|

| I am new to the UND group, my son is 11 mos. with DS.

| He has been a blessing in disguise!

|

| He recently started sitting up, at ten months; a week later started he

| began " creeping " !

|

| We give him finger foods, which he loves! But 90% of it ends up on the

| tray or floor. So we still have to spoon feed him, which can be a

| challenge! He wants so much to eat the finger foods! Which would be

| fine except almost none of it ends up in his stomach!

|

| Recenly we started giving him blueberries, and lo-and-behold! He can

| not only pick them up and put them in his mouth (they are tiny, after

| all) he can chew AND SWALLOW them! This is the first food he has been

| able to both chew and swallow!

|

| So my question is, what other foods have you tried that were more

| successful, in the beginning stages, of self feeding? Or maybe he has

| finally figured out chewing and swallowing (we started finger foods at

| seven months). How old was your child when they could successfully eat

| finger foods?

|

| I have lots more questions but will save them for another post another

| day!

|

| N. in sunny Northern California

|

|

|

|

|

| Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

| messages to go to the sender of the message.

|

[Guest guest]

,

hi, welcome to this group. It's great that is eating finger foods - I

think Olivia did at that age too, but she had some more extensive feeding

problems. Anyway, some of our kids don't always have that pincer grasp ability

and can't really coordinate it for awhile. I'm just guessing, but maybe that is

why is dropping most of his food? Anyway, just keep trying with anything

you are eating, cut it up small, make sure it's soft - Olivia really liked those

big Cheetos - not much nutritional value, but she did well getting them to her

mouth, then they sort of dissolve, not much to chew or choke on. I think

is doing great to eat a blueberry!

Patty in Ohio

mom to 4, youngest Olivia (4, ds)

newmearth <newmearth@...> wrote:Hi,

I am new to the UND group, my son is 11 mos. with DS.

He has been a blessing in disguise!

He recently started sitting up, at ten months; a week later started he

began " creeping " !

We give him finger foods, which he loves! But 90% of it ends up on the

tray or floor. So we still have to spoon feed him, which can be a

challenge! He wants so much to eat the finger foods! Which would be

fine except almost none of it ends up in his stomach!

Recenly we started giving him blueberries, and lo-and-behold! He can

not only pick them up and put them in his mouth (they are tiny, after

all) he can chew AND SWALLOW them! This is the first food he has been

able to both chew and swallow!

So my question is, what other foods have you tried that were more

successful, in the beginning stages, of self feeding? Or maybe he has

finally figured out chewing and swallowing (we started finger foods at

seven months). How old was your child when they could successfully eat

finger foods?

I have lots more questions but will save them for another post another

day!

N. in sunny Northern California

Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages

to go to the sender of the message.

[Guest guest]

,

hi, welcome to this group. It's great that is eating finger foods - I

think Olivia did at that age too, but she had some more extensive feeding

problems. Anyway, some of our kids don't always have that pincer grasp ability

and can't really coordinate it for awhile. I'm just guessing, but maybe that is

why is dropping most of his food? Anyway, just keep trying with anything

you are eating, cut it up small, make sure it's soft - Olivia really liked those

big Cheetos - not much nutritional value, but she did well getting them to her

mouth, then they sort of dissolve, not much to chew or choke on. I think

is doing great to eat a blueberry!

Patty in Ohio

mom to 4, youngest Olivia (4, ds)

newmearth <newmearth@...> wrote:Hi,

I am new to the UND group, my son is 11 mos. with DS.

He has been a blessing in disguise!

He recently started sitting up, at ten months; a week later started he

began " creeping " !

We give him finger foods, which he loves! But 90% of it ends up on the

tray or floor. So we still have to spoon feed him, which can be a

challenge! He wants so much to eat the finger foods! Which would be

fine except almost none of it ends up in his stomach!

Recenly we started giving him blueberries, and lo-and-behold! He can

not only pick them up and put them in his mouth (they are tiny, after

all) he can chew AND SWALLOW them! This is the first food he has been

able to both chew and swallow!

So my question is, what other foods have you tried that were more

successful, in the beginning stages, of self feeding? Or maybe he has

finally figured out chewing and swallowing (we started finger foods at

seven months). How old was your child when they could successfully eat

finger foods?

I have lots more questions but will save them for another post another

day!

N. in sunny Northern California

Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages

to go to the sender of the message.

[Guest guest]

Myah did her first self -feeding with green beans. I think you have to go

for what they really like in order to get them to do it. I have a 10 month

old and she likes the veggie puffs (in the baby food isle). They dissolve

quickly and come in many flavors. We refer to them as " Suge (like sugar, but

with an e at the end) snacks " because that's her nick name! Lol

, mom to Myah 4DS and Shianne 10mo (picking up attitudinal behaviors

from her big sister!!)lol

New to Group

Hi,

I am new to the UND group, my son is 11 mos. with DS.

He has been a blessing in disguise!

He recently started sitting up, at ten months; a week later started he

began " creeping " !

We give him finger foods, which he loves! But 90% of it ends up on the

tray or floor. So we still have to spoon feed him, which can be a

challenge! He wants so much to eat the finger foods! Which would be

fine except almost none of it ends up in his stomach!

Recenly we started giving him blueberries, and lo-and-behold! He can

not only pick them up and put them in his mouth (they are tiny, after

all) he can chew AND SWALLOW them! This is the first food he has been

able to both chew and swallow!

So my question is, what other foods have you tried that were more

successful, in the beginning stages, of self feeding? Or maybe he has

finally figured out chewing and swallowing (we started finger foods at

seven months). How old was your child when they could successfully eat

finger foods?

I have lots more questions but will save them for another post another

day!

N. in sunny Northern California

Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

[Guest guest]

Myah did her first self -feeding with green beans. I think you have to go

for what they really like in order to get them to do it. I have a 10 month

old and she likes the veggie puffs (in the baby food isle). They dissolve

quickly and come in many flavors. We refer to them as " Suge (like sugar, but

with an e at the end) snacks " because that's her nick name! Lol

, mom to Myah 4DS and Shianne 10mo (picking up attitudinal behaviors

from her big sister!!)lol

New to Group

Hi,

I am new to the UND group, my son is 11 mos. with DS.

He has been a blessing in disguise!

He recently started sitting up, at ten months; a week later started he

began " creeping " !

We give him finger foods, which he loves! But 90% of it ends up on the

tray or floor. So we still have to spoon feed him, which can be a

challenge! He wants so much to eat the finger foods! Which would be

fine except almost none of it ends up in his stomach!

Recenly we started giving him blueberries, and lo-and-behold! He can

not only pick them up and put them in his mouth (they are tiny, after

all) he can chew AND SWALLOW them! This is the first food he has been

able to both chew and swallow!

So my question is, what other foods have you tried that were more

successful, in the beginning stages, of self feeding? Or maybe he has

finally figured out chewing and swallowing (we started finger foods at

seven months). How old was your child when they could successfully eat

finger foods?

I have lots more questions but will save them for another post another

day!

N. in sunny Northern California

Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

[Guest guest]

Myah did her first self -feeding with green beans. I think you have to go

for what they really like in order to get them to do it. I have a 10 month

old and she likes the veggie puffs (in the baby food isle). They dissolve

quickly and come in many flavors. We refer to them as " Suge (like sugar, but

with an e at the end) snacks " because that's her nick name! Lol

, mom to Myah 4DS and Shianne 10mo (picking up attitudinal behaviors

from her big sister!!)lol

New to Group

Hi,

I am new to the UND group, my son is 11 mos. with DS.

He has been a blessing in disguise!

He recently started sitting up, at ten months; a week later started he

began " creeping " !

We give him finger foods, which he loves! But 90% of it ends up on the

tray or floor. So we still have to spoon feed him, which can be a

challenge! He wants so much to eat the finger foods! Which would be

fine except almost none of it ends up in his stomach!

Recenly we started giving him blueberries, and lo-and-behold! He can

not only pick them up and put them in his mouth (they are tiny, after

all) he can chew AND SWALLOW them! This is the first food he has been

able to both chew and swallow!

So my question is, what other foods have you tried that were more

successful, in the beginning stages, of self feeding? Or maybe he has

finally figured out chewing and swallowing (we started finger foods at

seven months). How old was your child when they could successfully eat

finger foods?

I have lots more questions but will save them for another post another

day!

N. in sunny Northern California

Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for

messages to go to the sender of the message.

[Guest guest]

Sherri and whoever else asked the lacto fermenting question yesterday,

I second Joe's recommendation about the book " Wild Fermentation " . I have

tried a few fermentation recipes from NT and am not that fond of the

results. The whey may guarantee that you have the correct flora, but it

often makes the veggies mushy. I have also found that until your'e very good

at it, I would stick to fermenting 1 veggie at a time.

Therese

Note to anyone who swapped or bought my jars of veggies made from the NT

recipes; Sorry about that, I hope they weren't too mushy. I have

experimented since then and think my krauts, etc. are great now!

[Guest guest]

If anyone is interested in the book Wild Fermentation, I am getting a dozen

in next week. If you want one email me.

seasidestudent@... Being there is a holiday, it may be

the first part of the following week.

Re: new to group

Sherri and whoever else asked the lacto fermenting question yesterday,

I second Joe's recommendation about the book " Wild Fermentation " . I have

tried a few fermentation recipes from NT and am not that fond of the

results. The whey may guarantee that you have the correct flora, but it

often makes the veggies mushy. I have also found that until your'e very good

at it, I would stick to fermenting 1 veggie at a time.

Therese

Note to anyone who swapped or bought my jars of veggies made from the NT

recipes; Sorry about that, I hope they weren't too mushy. I have

experimented since then and think my krauts, etc. are great now!

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Hi Friend,

My name is Pat. What's yours? I am a great Life Lift encourager. I

have been doing Life Lift since the end of Feb., 2006, so I started

almost 3 months ago!!! After only the first week, I lost 8 inches in my

waist!!! What else do you want to know? Please let me know and I,

along with all my other Life Lift friends, will try to help you and, of

course, we will support you until you reach your goal and long after

that!! So, how may I help you?

Love always,

Pat

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Welcome to Lifelift! We are so glad you are here.

Have you already started Lifelift? Please let us know if you have any

questions and someone here will surely try to help you.

I'm an 'olde timer' at Lifelift; I think I started in February of 2000.

This is an awesome group to belong too. And our dear Rashelle (the

creater of Lifelift) pops in online every chance she gets and is

always there to help us.

You've come to the right place!

Take care,

Wanda.

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Hi Glenn,

Welcome to the group.....sorry you had to find us but you have come to the right place for support and answers to your questions. Things have been quiet lately on here but I am sure it is because of the good weather and vacation time.

I have to say from the start that life will never be what it was for you before your implant but it does get better and we all adjust to our new changes over time. Many of us had a hard time with the changes and often dealt with depression on top of things. For most this is normal and anti-depression or anxiety meds can really help.

I have had my AICD for over 5 years now (I was 42 when i got it) and had my battery replaced about a year ago. I have been shocked several times and struggled with that too but I am now in a much better place than before. The pain will go away and things will feel normal at the site again.....just takes that darn thing called time.

Hope this helps you some and I am sure others will reply to you also.

In a message dated 6/24/2006 1:48:25 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, glennannesley@... writes:

Hi AllGlad i found your groupIm a 41 yo male from Sydney i have just had my ICD implanted on the 6/6/06I was wondering if others had a sore shoulder blade as well after surgery mine is starting to ease up a little now no longer having to take pain killers atleast and starting to be able to lay on my side in bed for a little while anyway.Would like to know how long till it would sort of fell normal again???I have to wait till August to find out if the doctors will let me drive again which is hard as my job requires that i do...So lots of things im finding that i have to adjust my life style around but glad they found the problem with my heart (enlarged muscle) that i never knew about until i collapsed at work a few weeks back.Look Forward to your repliesCheersGlenn

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Hi Glenn, Welcome to the group. I am a mother of a son who is 18, that had a pacemaker at 15 and an ICD by the age of 16. He too had a very sore shoulder and arm for some time after the surgery. He, even now, sometimes says that the area around the ICD can be sore at times, and we are not sure why that is? I started writing to this group about a year ago, as I needed support, and with this group, I was able to give my son the support he needed to go forward with his life. He was born with a severe heart condition. He had surgery at 6 months of age, later at the age of 15 began having fainting spells. They did another surgery that replaced his pulmonary valve, and put in a pacemaker. By the age of 16, he had a terrible scare with V-tach that almost cost him his life, so they put in an ICD. He had a "shocking" episode last summer, but the shocks did what they were supposed to do.

He now is on medication to help with the low and high heart rates along with BP medication. He just graduated from H.S. this past week and is working as a swim instructor for the City...all is well so far... Welcome, and good luck. Laurie glenn <glennannesley@...> wrote: Hi AllGlad i found your groupIm a 41 yo male from Sydney i have just had my ICD implanted on the 6/6/06I was wondering if others had a sore shoulder blade as well after surgery mine is starting to ease up a little

now no longer having to take pain killers atleast and starting to be able to lay on my side in bed for a little while anyway.Would like to know how long till it would sort of fell normal again???I have to wait till August to find out if the doctors will let me drive again which is hard as my job requires that i do...So lots of things im finding that i have to adjust my life style around but glad they found the problem with my heart (enlarged muscle) that i never knew about until i collapsed at work a few weeks back.Look Forward to your repliesCheersGlenn

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hi glenn welcome to the group i hope you find what you need in the groups friendship caring and answers and most of all the suport in which will come in handy my name is stacie i'm 22 i got my first icd at the age of 13 i'm on my secound defibrillator and shocked over 1000 times still counting ! i have found that i have always been a bit sore for a while after the sugery around the shoulder and and everynow and then it getsore but nothing like after it's first implanted ! the soreness for me easyed up a little everyday but sometimes it can take a while the life and work adjustments we have to make gets easy as we go sometimes for some it's harder to adjust i think it is common with driveing to have to wait around six weeks before resoming i hope you find the support you where looking sorry that you need to have a icd stacie,22 shocking life for shocking people!glenn

<glennannesley@...> wrote: Hi AllGlad i found your groupIm a 41 yo male from Sydney i have just had my ICD implanted on the 6/6/06I was wondering if others had a sore shoulder blade as well after surgery mine is starting to ease up a little now no longer having to take pain killers atleast and starting to be able to lay on my side in bed for a little while anyway.Would like to know how long till it would sort of fell normal again???I have to wait till August to find out if the doctors will let me drive again which is hard as my

job requires that i do...So lots of things im finding that i have to adjust my life style around but glad they found the problem with my heart (enlarged muscle) that i never knew about until i collapsed at work a few weeks back.Look Forward to your repliesCheersGlenn

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Hi, Glenn. Here's another welcome to the Zaplist. Glad you found us.

I did not have a sore shoulder, just a painful incision site when they

first implanted the darn thing. The pain went away with time, though

it was sore for a while. I never did get back to " normal " again. It

is a pretty individual experience. Some get well quickly, others just

creep along. Probably has to do with what your medical problem is

and how bad it is.

Keep asking questions as they come up. There is always someone

in the Zaplist with answers.

Mike

On Jun 24, 2006, at 1:37 AM, glenn wrote:

> Hi All

> Glad i found your group

> Im a 41 yo male from Sydney i have just had my ICD implanted on the

> 6/6/06

> I was wondering if others had a sore shoulder blade as well after

> surgery mine is starting to ease up a little now no longer having to

> take pain killers atleast and starting to be able to lay on my side in

> bed for a little while anyway.

> Would like to know how long till it would sort of fell normal again???

> I have to wait till August to find out if the doctors will let me drive

> again which is hard as my job requires that i do...

> So lots of things im finding that i have to adjust my life style around

> but glad they found the problem with my heart (enlarged muscle) that i

> never knew about until i collapsed at work a few weeks back.

> Look Forward to your replies

> Cheers

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New to Group

> I'm a 41 yo male from Sydney

%%% Say Hi to Syd from all of us here.

> i have just had my ICD implanted on the

> 6/6/06

%%% 666? Ohmigawd! Satan has expanded into cardiology. And here i

thought his evil deeds were limited to proctology and urology.

> I was wondering if others had a sore shoulder\

> blade as well after surgery

%%%No. My pain was in the buttock area, but that was easily traceable to my

neighbor who thought it was funny to snealk up on me and yell, " BOO! " hoping

to trigger my ICD. He's just a pain in the . . .

> mine is starting to ease up a little now

> no longer having to take pain killers

%%% What are you going to do with the left over scotch?

> at least and starting to be able to lay on

> my side in bed for a little while anyway.

%%% You'll know you're getting better when you no longer have to lay on

your side and can lay on someone's stomach.

> Would like to know how long till it

> would sort of fell normal again???

%%% Depends on how how kinkty you've been feeling. If AICD stands for

Animals In Congress Desired, then you're probably going to have to switch

from a cardiologist to a veterinarian and get parvo shots.

> I have to wait till August to find out

> if the doctors will let me drive again

%%% Start of slow. do a little putting first, then some chip shots. Then

try driving off the ladies' tee. Even if you're healthy enough to drive off

the men's tee, don't. the ladies' tee has a nicer group of golfers.

> which is hard as my job requires that i do...

%%% Job? What's a job?

> So lots of things im finding that i have to

> adjust my life style around

%%% I understand. Same thing happened to me when I acquired a wife.

fortunately I had taken a few law courses in college and had learned to lie.

> but glad they found the problem

> with my heart (enlarged muscle)

%%% Now why couldn't my urologist have found a similar problem?

> that i never knew about until i collapsed

> at work a few weeks back.

%%% Collapsing at work is usually not permitted by the employer. Likewise

exploding or breaking into flame via spontaneous combustion. Truthfully

employers don't like anything that's spontaneous.

From California where having a new ICD is like getting a life-size,

anatomically correct inflateable doll. You know what it's for, but you hope

you never have to use it.

Bill

> Look Forward to your replies

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Hi Glenn,

Welcome to the Group.

I had my defibrillator implanted in December of 2005. I have to say that my shoulder is now feeling a lot better. So that is about 6 months. The memories on how it first felt are horrible. But it's true you do start to feel better a little each day. So give it some time. I know you want to bounce right back up and get going again but that is not quite possible yet. You will get there. Good Luck and email me anytime.

Sincerely,

Toni