gallbladder

[Guest guest]

Ok well today my 2nd ana test came back negative. I am very happy

but at same time still stuck with the pain and the not knowing. Also

of course I wonder ok, I have had 1 positive , 1 neg what do I

believe lol. I am going to Yales top Liver Dr. on wed. Maybe he will

shed some light Georgia

> > >

> > > Hi, 1st of all I have NOT been diagnosed yet, but I am coming

to

> you

> > > basically just to chat and to understand things etc. I have

been

> > > suffering for the last 3 yrs with pain right under my ribbs.

It

> > flares

> > > up shortly after I eat. I also have had severe attacks Severe

> > itching,

> > > horrible pain etc which throws my bile salts off. Anyhow the

> last 3

> > > yrs I have done so many tests. But now I am at Yale, and they

> just

> > did

> > > an ANA which came back positive 1:80 so now I am being

referred

> to

> > > their Liver DR there for what I was told possible autoimmune

> liver

> > > disease. Now as far as I know at least up until this past

august

> all

> > > my liver tests had come back good, except this bile salt

thing.

> Has

> > > anyone had such few symptoms lots of pain don't get me wrong

but

> > > other than that no other symptoms? Georgia

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Have you been tested for Celiac disease?Dee

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[Guest guest]

Maybe if you gave us more information, like why did they remove your

gallbladder? It could be that whatever caused your doctors to think

your gall bladder needed removal is still affecting you. For

instance, if you have lyme, a common tick-borne co-infection is

babesia which in animals makes their bile thick and grainy and clogs

up the gall bladder. Gallstones could be caused by a number of

different mineral imbalances or organ malfunctions.

>

> Would anyone happen to know anything about post gallbladder surgry

> problems? Or what supplemnents might be good and why? I bought the

Eat

> fat Lose Fat book by sally fallon and it said to take Ox bile pill

but

> they give me horrible tummy aches. She also recommended swedish

bitters

> but they taste gross and cost like $10 for a small bottle.

>

> I had my gallbladder removed about 6 weeks after i had my baby,

which

> was about 4 years ago. ever since i have had something like IBS,

but im

> not sure. I have tired spells alot and not much energy. Has anyone

else

> ever delt with these problems?

>

> Amber in Montana

>

[Guest guest]

--- In , " haecklers " <haecklers@...>

wrote:

>

> Maybe if you gave us more information, like why did they remove your

> gallbladder?

i was getting gallbladder attacks. they would last for about 6 hours

and they would be so painfull i had to take tylenol with codene. my

gall bladder was removed one week after my first attack. they used one

of those things on me they use to find the sex of your baby.. what are

they called?? they said they saw the gallstones in there.

the stomach aches started about 6 mo- a year? later. I've heard that

surgry can really disrupt your system..

one person said it could be celiac disease? how do you get tested for

that?

amber

[Guest guest]

Wish I could remember where I got this (most of the best I get comes

from Masterjohn so maybe ?)

Your gall bladder is a sack for bile storage.

Your liver produces the bile.

Your gall bladder releases bile whenever you eat so that you can

process food.

When you have no gall bladder you may not have bile available when you

eat because the liver may not have produced any when you ate.

You can train your liver to produce bile at the right time by eating at

the same time every day.

Now I know why the doctor told my father to eat at the same time each

day. I was irritated at his insistence to do so but now I understand.

On May 12, 2007, at 9:21 PM, charlesd9078 wrote:

> Would anyone happen to know anything about post gallbladder surgry

> problems? Or what supplemnents might be good and why? I bought the Eat

> fat Lose Fat book by sally fallon and it said to take Ox bile pill but

> they give me horrible tummy aches. She also recommended swedish bitters

> but they taste gross and cost like $10 for a small bottle.

>

> I had my gallbladder removed about 6 weeks after i had my baby, which

> was about 4 years ago. ever since i have had something like IBS, but im

> not sure. I have tired spells alot and not much energy. Has anyone else

> ever delt with these problems?

>

> Amber in Montana

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I had to have mine out (at age 34), due to a chronic infection in

my gallbladder. They did it laparascopically. They made either 3 or

4 small incisions. I think I was supposed to take it easy for 2 weeks

afterward (which I didn't). I got up and vacuumed a few days after

being home.

Sue

>

> Has anyone had their gallbladder out? Any and all advice is appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

> Marisha

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, in fact I had to have the surgery about a month after I was

diagnosed with an active EBV virus which I later learned I really

had CFS/FM. In case you're not aware, CFS/FM often cause

hypersensitivity to pain. As a result, what would have given good

pain relief for the average patient, wasn't even close to what I

needed.. I was in extreme pain and they wouldn't give me a higher

dose. I don't mean to scare you. If we had all (me, surgeon,

anesthesiologist) known what was really going on with me, I believe

I would have been given a higher dose of pain med, I would have been

fairly comfortable. Also I would have been able to sleep (try to go

in as well rested as possible). Due to the pain I wasn't able to

sleep at all. I've had several major surgeries and born two babies

so I know the difference between being uncomfortable versus extreme

pain.

So my advice would be to discuss this in advance with both your

surgeon and anesthesiologist and make them aware that you most

likely will need more pain med than normal and find out if they have

a problem giving you a higher amount as long as its safe. Also,

earplugs would have helped as hospitals are the worst place to try

and sleep due to the constant noise.

An interesting sidenote: the surgeon found that not only was my

gallbladder inflamed and infected, it also had a hole in it. So at

some point, it was leaking as well... YUK! But the body is often

ingenious and God's help is a wonderful blessing as well. Evidently

my body plugged the hole with fat and stopped the leak! He was so

amazed at this he took a poloroid picture and showed me!!! In his

25 years of gallbladder surgery he had never seen or heard of

anything like that.

Hope this helps,

aprillove678

>

> Has anyone had their gallbladder out? Any and all advice is

appreciated.

>

> Thanks,

> Marisha

>

[Guest guest]

I'd forgotten, when I had the surgery, I had a lot of pain in my upper

chest and shoulders (from the gas they use to expand your abdomen).

They wouldn't believe I was in so much pain afterwards; so, I didn't

get enough pain med. Make sure the doctor knows ahead of time that

you have Fibromyalgia. I found this info. at FibromyalgiaSupport.com.

http://www.fibromyalgiasupport.com/library/showarticle.cfm/ID/56/

If you are having a major surgical procedure there are some issues

that you may wish to discuss with your surgeon and anesthesiologist

that could reduce the " fibro-flare " that often occurs after surgery in

fibromyalgia patients.

1. Request that you wear a soft neck collar and minimize neck

hyperextension (if an endotracheal tube is anticipated).

2. Request that your arm with the intravenous line be kept near your

body, not away from your body or over your head.

3. Request that you be given a pre-operative opioid pain medication –

about 90 mins. prior to surgery. Opioids are morphine or morphine

related drugs. The rationale for the pre-operative use of opioids is

to minimize " central sensitization " - as this inevitably worsens the

widespread body pain that you are already experiencing.

4. Ask to have a long-acting local anesthetic infiltrated into your

incision - even though you will be asleep during the procedure. The

rationale for this is to minimize pain impulses reaching the spinal

cord and brain, which in turn drive central sensitization.

5. As a fibromyalgia patient you will need more, and usually longer

duration, of post-operative pain medication. In most cases opioids

should be regularly administered or self administered with a PCA pump

(patient controlled analgesia).

6. Most fibromyalgia patients require a longer duration of

post-operative convalescence, including physical therapy in many cases.

[Guest guest]

>1 & 1/2 years ago,a HIDA scan showed my gallbladder functioning at just 12

% so the surgeon cheerfully removed it, promising me all my

>symptoms would go away...chest pain, GERD, bloat, indigestion, etc. Wrong !

Nothing changed til I started following Bee's program a year

>ago. I'll always wonder if my gallbladder would've improved. Maybe, maybe

not, but doctors have no idea what we're really dealing with.

>What a shame, years of suffering, expensive tests, & usually a wrong

diagnosis. Susiedu

Susie – I am sorry this happened to you and I can relate but in regards to a

hyst. In 2003 I had 25 to 45 day cycles with 14 days of really horrible PMS.

Then I would menstruate for 3 to 5 days with excruciating pain due to

endometriosis. I have never liked taking pain meds and avoided it when ever

possible, but in the end the pain got so bad I was taking Vicodin with

Ibuproven every 3 to 4 hours to make it through the day. In addition, every

single day, even when I wasn’t PMSing, I would get a pregnant looking belly,

water retention in my lower body, a lower backache, and pretty bad fatigue

by mid-day. My gyno at the time said it was from the endometriosis and once

the bleeding source (uterus) is removed that would all go away. WRONG! After

having my uterus and left ovary removed I still had 14 days of PMS just as

bad and all the other symptoms. The only difference was no menses so no

pain. It took me another 1 ½ years to figure out that the daily symptoms

were from a lack of HCl. I wasn’t digesting my food, it caused all those

symptoms, the day I started taking HCl those went away. The PMS

unfortunately remained. I wish I had known then what I know now! a

(P.S. Taking all those pain meds is in part what messed up my gut so much! I

did it because I didn’t think I could miss work every month. Live and learn)

[Guest guest]

Susie – I am sorry this happened to you and I can relate but in

regards to a hyst. In 2003 I had 25 to 45 day cycles with 14 days of

really horrible PMS. Then I would menstruate for 3 to 5 days with

excruciating pain due to endometriosis. I have never liked taking

pain meds and avoided it when ever possible, but in the end the pain

got so bad I was taking Vicodin with Ibuproven every 3 to 4 hours to

make it through the day. In addition, every single day, even when I

wasn't PMSing, I would get a pregnant looking belly, water retention

in my lower body, a lower backache, and pretty bad fatigue

by mid-day. My gyno at the time said it was from the endometriosis

and once the bleeding source (uterus) is removed that would all go

away. WRONG! After having my uterus and left ovary removed I still

had 14 days of PMS just as bad and all the other symptoms. The only

difference was no menses so no pain. It took me another 1 ½ years to

figure out that the daily symptoms were from a lack of HCl. I wasn't

digesting my food, it caused all those symptoms, the day I started

taking HCl those went away. The PMS unfortunately remained. I wish I

had known then what I know now! a

(P.S. Taking all those pain meds is in part what messed up my gut so

much! I

did it because I didn't think I could miss work every month. Live

and learn)

a, that's 2 of us who swear by HCL now. I took gobs of

antacids for years, no help. Even had my appendix removed 2 & 1/2

years ago, supposed to cure all. Then the gall bladder. Meanwhile I

was also taking lots of Tylenol, Excedrin, trying to stop migranes.

Ibuprofen last Oct-Nov when I broke my shoulder has really set me

back plus inflamed my skin. Toxins, all of them, & ruining our

digestion. We're learning the hard way. Susiedu xoxo

[Guest guest]

Could it be that my SEVERE problems (mostly mental and fatigue) as well

as some male pain I needed surgery for were really made worse for the 2

years + that I took Advil (6-8 every day) for my tendonitis pain

beginning in 2002? I had bad candida problems prior to that, of

course, as I tried my first candida diet in 2001. But I imagine the

Advil did a lot of damage.

Doug

> a, that's 2 of us who swear by HCL now. I took gobs of

> antacids for years, no help. Even had my appendix removed 2 & 1/2

> years ago, supposed to cure all. Then the gall bladder. Meanwhile I

> was also taking lots of Tylenol, Excedrin, trying to stop migranes.

> Ibuprofen last Oct-Nov when I broke my shoulder has really set me

> back plus inflamed my skin. Toxins, all of them, & ruining our

> digestion. We're learning the hard way. Susiedu xoxo

>

[Guest guest]

Yes the body still produces bile... This excerpt I have (which was talking about gall stones originally) will explain better than me.... and give you some options to consider.

order to break down and digest fats, your body must produce bile, which is done in the liver. Your gallbladder is merely a sac for holding some of the bile that the liver produces. Whether or not you have had your gallbladder removed, your liver is still producing bile in order to digest fats. Without the gallbladder, however, the bile is not as readily secreted in the body, and the liver can become overwhelmed when faced with large amounts of any fats, especially saturated fats and hydrogenated fats. And for some people even small amounts of fats can cause discomfort. (One of the side effects of gallbladder removal can be the dumping of bile which is now not as easily regulated and can send someone running to the bathroom immediately after eating.) A more common side effect is a decrease in the secretion of bile. If the bile produced by the liver becomes thick and sluggish, painful symptoms and bile stones can occur. Bile stones can form in the liver as well as the gallbladder. One woman had her gallbladder removed only to end up back in surgery again two or three days later where they found stones in the bile ducts of the liver causing her alot of pain.However, removing the gallbladder may be an absolute medical necessity. But, unless it is diseased, ruptured or otherwise sick, know that just having gallbladder stones does not mean you have to take it out. If you have gallbladder attacks, pain or discomfort or digestive problems but not a diseased gallbladder, this does not mean you necessarily have to have gallbladder surgery. Get a second opinion. You do have an option of cleaning up

your diet, doing some work on your gallbladder and liver and keeping the body part that God gave you. If you happen to think that nature made a mistake and that you don't need it anyway, you probably wouldn't be reading this page in the first place. What's the worst thing that can happen? You try to fix the root of the problem which is based on cleaning up your diet and eating real food and real fats and not the "pretend food" that can sit on a shelf for 6 months to 2 years. What kind of a food takes two years to go bad? Nothing that will give health to your body, that's for sure. And if the gallbladder still needs to come out later, you've only gained by eating better anyway.The gallbladder does facilitate and regulate the flow of bile in your body. When that facilitator is taken away it is quite possible that the flow will be not as efficient, ie. too much at one time, or more commonly, not enough.Whether you opt for gallbladder

surgery or not, consider taking products and changing your diet as well as doing a series of gallbladder and liver flushes (it does both at the same time) to take care of the root of your gallbladder problem.The most common problems, apart from actual pain are impaired digestion: bloating, gas, heartburn, constipation or diarrhea. You are/were already having trouble digesting fats. So why would removing the organ that regulates the metabolizer of fats improve your digestion? It may help with the pain, but know that 34% of people who have their gallbladder removed still experience some abdominal pain. (4)The easiest way to avoid this is to take an external

supplement of bile salts to help your body with the digestion of fats. And do a series of mini gallbladder flushes. Supplemental bile salts, (unless you are experriencing bile dumping) available separately or in the Gallbladder Relief Kits, should be taken frequently along with the digestive stimulant (also in the kit) to help stimulate your own digestive juices. Alternating the dosage of bile salts will help to mimic the body's way of secreting bile. For example, take one with breakfast, two at lunch, three at dinner, two with breakfast the next day, and so on in rotation.If you have the less common, but not unusual side effect after gallbladder removal of needing to run to the bathroom immediately after eating, you are probably

getting too much bile instead of too little. This, unfortunately is much harder to control.

Suzi

Would anyone tell me what happens when the gallbladder is removed? Does the body still produces bile in any way? Thanks,

Rena

[Guest guest]

Your liver will still produce bile anytime

you eat any foods with fat in them. The bladder is simply a little purse that

holds it for a more synchronous mixing with the food leaving your stomach. You

will be less able to absorb the fats you eat without a gallbladder, but it will

not completely preclude it. Mine was taken 5 years ago, and I am just fine.

Janet

From: health

[mailto:health ] On Behalf Of evergreengarden

Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008

1:36 PM

To:

health

Subject:

gallbladder

Hello,

Would anyone tell me what happens when the gallbladder

is removed? Does the body still produces bile in any way?

Thanks,

Rena

[Guest guest]

I asked this question because I was not sure how the body handled a missing gallbladder. Sometime ago I found that I had gallbladder stones, but I took several herbal formulas and everything is under control. I don't have any intention to have surgery for this or any other reason.

Thank you,

Rena

RE: gallbladder

Your liver will still produce bile anytime you eat any foods with fat in them. The bladder is simply a little purse that holds it for a more synchronous mixing with the food leaving your stomach. You will be less able to absorb the fats you eat without a gallbladder, but it will not completely preclude it. Mine was taken 5 years ago, and I am just fine.

Janet

From: health [mailto:health ] On Behalf Of evergreengardenSent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 1:36 PMhealth Subject: gallbladder

Hello,

Would anyone tell me what happens when the gallbladder is removed? Does the body still produces bile in any way?

Thanks,

Rena

[Guest guest]

When you had your gallbladder removed how was it done did they

remove it the old fashion way or did they remove it through your belly

button I can't remember the name of what it is called but it is suppose

to be quick and safer. They fill you up with air and remove it through

the bellybutton.

Keep On Smiling

Kathy Sweet

>

> I didnt know my gailbadder was bad i was sent to get ultrasound done

> check my liver. came back i need my gallbladder removed Surgeion did

> surgery last year. it was infected glad they removed it. they put me

to

> sleep woke up all done. sweet asnd simply surgury. mike group owner

>

[Guest guest]

Kathy,

My gallbladder was removed through the naval, called laparoscopy. I could have

come home the same day but they kept me overnight because I had just had a heart

attack a couple of months earlier. The surgery was on Fri. and I was driving on

Mon.

Dorothy

[Guest guest]

Hey Kathy!!

I had my Gallbladder removedI had the old fashion surical removal of the

Gallbladder...unfortunatley, they told me that I had just too many stones to

have it done throught the naval....which is called Laparoscopy.

I stayed in the hospital for a full week after the surgery. I had so much

infection that it was almost at the point of bursting...so they didn't want me

to go home with such a raging infection.

I have severe endometriosis...so I have had five Laparoscopies done

though...yes..they fill you with air so they can see the organs more safely.

ou look

about 7 months pregnant with this for a few days. My ex -husband had a fit

when he thought I was pregnant right after we split up...what an idiot. LOL

I wish you all the luck...You'lll do great and then you are really back on

your feet so to speak, Kathy!

Best of luck with all!!

Gentle hugs to you and all,

Kathy G.

Group Co-owner

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[Guest guest]

Hey kathy!

They do push a wee bit on your abdomen for some of the air to be removed,

but your abdomen will stay swollen for a few days until all the gas is

expelled...and you do that by you know what...nature will take it's

course...lol.

Hope you are doing well, my friend.

legs and back are horrible.

hang in.

gentle hugs to you and all,

Kathy G.

Co-owner

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[Guest guest]

so after they fill you with air it does not go down right away, you

stay blown up for alittle while after the surgery that's weird the

one nurse told me that they push on you and make all the air come out

afterwards, I guess she didn't know what she was talking about!!!!

Keep On Smiling

Kathy Sweet

>

> Hey Kathy!!

>

> I had my Gallbladder removedI had the old fashion surical removal

of the

> Gallbladder...unfortunatley, they told me that I had just too many

stones to

> have it done throught the naval....which is called Laparoscopy.

>

> I stayed in the hospital for a full week after the surgery. I had

so much

> infection that it was almost at the point of bursting...so they

didn't want me

> to go home with such a raging infection.

>

> I have severe endometriosis...so I have had five Laparoscopies

done

> though...yes..they fill you with air so they can see the organs

more safely. ou look

> about 7 months pregnant with this for a few days. My ex -husband

had a fit

> when he thought I was pregnant right after we split up...what an

idiot. LOL

>

> I wish you all the luck...You'lll do great and then you are really

back on

> your feet so to speak, Kathy!

>

> Best of luck with all!!

>

> Gentle hugs to you and all,

>

> Kathy G.

> Group Co-owner

>

>

>

> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy

You know I was talking with my doctor today, about how my atacck

came on so quick and what could of caused them I told him beside

smoking ( bad habit of mine) I am a very healthy person the only

thing I do is take all the drugs the doctors have me taking. He told

me that all the drugs I have been taking could have caused me to have

a bad gallbladder. I wonder how many of us on here have had to have

out gallbladders out because of the medicatins we take for pain. Plus

he said my PM dotor should have been check my blood every month and

he was not. So from now on my Family doctor is going to do regular

blood work once a month to keep an eye on everything, so nothing like

this ever happens again. Thank for all the tips

Keep On Smiling

Kathy Sweet

>

> Hey kathy!

>

> They do push a wee bit on your abdomen for some of the air to be

removed,

> but your abdomen will stay swollen for a few days until all the gas

is

> expelled...and you do that by you know what...nature will take

it's course...lol.

>

> Hope you are doing well, my friend.

>

> legs and back are horrible.

>

> hang in.

>

> gentle hugs to you and all,

>

> Kathy G.

> Co-owner

>

>

>

> **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life

financial

> challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and

information, tips and

> calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?

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>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Kathy!

I am not surprised at all...there are so many problems that ocurr from all

the damned meds that we all need to take. I do miss the pump for this reason

very much. My pump kept on malfunctioning...horribly...so it had to be

removed.

On top of all the other problems that are happening from the meds...now the

tummyis being bothered from the meds too.

Imagine this one..I went to bed..got up about 2 hours later...and happened

to look into the mirror and to my horror...saw that all my eyebrows were gone!!

Well...I went into my bedroom and blamed my poor, sleepy, innocnet

hubby...who had no idea what I was talking about...so I called the dr the next

day and

was told that this is a very rare side effect of some meds that I am

taking...hair loss...thankfully not too much hair came out of my head....and of

course it didn't affect my " mustache " that I have to wax every other

week...come

one, ladies, you know we all have to do it..lol

I have been lucky I guess though...since the most side effects that I have

had from all the meds are the hair loss, nausea, ...but the worst one is the

weight gain...I have NOT been lucky there...in about 2 years...I have gained

over 150 pounds....it sucks...now some of this has been due to hand to mouth,

but most of it truly is from meds.

Take care and get some rest.

You will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Gentle hugs to you and all,

Kathy G.

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[Guest guest]

The hair loss can also be from the thryoid. I also lost my eyebrow hair, as well

as clumps of hair from my head. In my case, I only lost  one eyebrow. Talk about

horror!!  Thankfully it's growing in.

 

Sue C

Moderator

From: KGAVI@... <KGAVI@...>

Subject: Re: Re: GallBladder

Stimulator

Date: Saturday, October 4, 2008, 2:34 AM

Hey Kathy!

I am not surprised at all...there are so many problems that ocurr from all

the damned meds that we all need to take. I do miss the pump for this reason

very much. My pump kept on malfunctioning. ..horribly. ..so it had to be

removed.

On top of all the other problems that are happening from the meds...now the

tummyis being bothered from the meds too.

Imagine this one..I went to bed..got up about 2 hours later...and happened

to look into the mirror and to my horror...saw that all my eyebrows were gone!!

Well...I went into my bedroom and blamed my poor, sleepy, innocnet

hubby...who had no idea what I was talking about...so I called the dr the next

day and

was told that this is a very rare side effect of some meds that I am

taking...hair loss...thankfully not too much hair came out of my head....and of

course it didn't affect my " mustache " that I have to wax every other

week....come

one, ladies, you know we all have to do it..lol

I have been lucky I guess though...since the most side effects that I have

had from all the meds are the hair loss, nausea, ...but the worst one is the

weight gain...I have NOT been lucky there...in about 2 years...I have gained

over 150 pounds....it sucks...now some of this has been due to hand to mouth,

but most of it truly is from meds.

Take care and get some rest.

You will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Gentle hugs to you and all,

Kathy G.

Group co-owner

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[Guest guest]

Hi Kathy

yeah I know what you mean about the weight gain, and hair loss we

just don't seem to be losing it in the right places like are legs,arm pits and

of course that lovely mustache.................................LOL. I have been

losing allot of hair but I think that has to due with the fact that I have

really long hair so it looks like allot. Not enough for me to worry about Thank

God.

Keep On Smiling

Kathy Sweet

Re: Re: GallBladder

Hey Kathy!

I am not surprised at all...there are so many problems that ocurr from all

the damned meds that we all need to take. I do miss the pump for this reason

very much. My pump kept on malfunctioning...horribly...so it had to be

removed.

On top of all the other problems that are happening from the meds...now the

tummyis being bothered from the meds too.

Imagine this one..I went to bed..got up about 2 hours later...and happened

to look into the mirror and to my horror...saw that all my eyebrows were

gone!!

Well...I went into my bedroom and blamed my poor, sleepy, innocnet

hubby...who had no idea what I was talking about...so I called the dr the next

day and

was told that this is a very rare side effect of some meds that I am

taking...hair loss...thankfully not too much hair came out of my head....and

of

course it didn't affect my " mustache " that I have to wax every other

week...come

one, ladies, you know we all have to do it..lol

I have been lucky I guess though...since the most side effects that I have

had from all the meds are the hair loss, nausea, ...but the worst one is the

weight gain...I have NOT been lucky there...in about 2 years...I have gained

over 150 pounds....it sucks...now some of this has been due to hand to mouth,

but most of it truly is from meds.

Take care and get some rest.

You will be in my thoughts and prayers.

Gentle hugs to you and all,

Kathy G.

Group co-owner

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Hmmm...what does friendly input mean? <g>

I don't know about crohns and the relation to gall bladder. i will consult one of the ENDO nurses to see if they have any insight.

Bt if you have a bad gall bladder, and it is not working or full of stones, then having it out is one of the easier surgeries laparoscopically, and you will fel Sooooo much better in near 100% of the cases. I have seen those without physical jobs be back to work in less than a week. Friday, one of my surgical assistants came back in a week to chat, looked 100% better, and will be able to work in one more week. This guy was miserable for months.

One must remember that even though there are only small incisions on the outside, there is still a large open area on the liver bed on the inside just like open surgery. But recovery is faster because muscles aren't cut to get to it, and most report very little pain post-op. This is one of the top common and safe surgeries, and takes a good surgeon only 30-45 minutes in most cases.

I assume you have had all the tests to confirm this, Ultrasound, Hidascan, etc.and your doctor has rued out th crohnes as the cause of symptoms?

Hope this infrmation is helpful to some.

BC

From: rachelraneri <rachel@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] gallbladderlow dose naltrexone Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 3:31 PM

Are there any Crohnies taking LDN and have had problems with their gallbladder? I would like to avoid another surgery. I welcome all friendly input.

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I would suggest that you check how your liver is doing now. If you have pain on your right side and may be right side back area...you need to check both gallbladder functions and test your liver values.

Ingrid

[low dose naltrexone] gallbladderlow dose naltrexone Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 3:31 PM

Are there any Crohnies taking LDN and have had problems with their gallbladder? I would like to avoid another surgery. I welcome all friendly input.