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Hi Lori! How did the appt go today?

I'm a single mom, one son of mine has OCD, he's now 18! I joined

this group way back when he was in 6th grade. This group has been my

best support through the years.

Does your daughter realize that she has a " problem " ??

You mentioned re school that your daughter can " lose control and shut

down. " I understand the shut down part, but not sure of the " lose

control " - does she have a meltdown/blow-up or something??

My son's OCD affected his schoolwork back in middle school. And

sometimes it was just too hard to attempt homework. Not due to

perfectionism, luckily, but part of his OCD had a lot of

touching, " just right " feelings and just getting the pencil " right "

could take a while; so sometimes avoiding having to pick one up was

easier; well " avoid " may not be a good word, more like he knew he

would get " stuck " and couldn't work himself up to try. (that's the

short version!) Anyway we set up a 504 Plan for him to help at

school with accommodations and modifications for school/homework.

Hope the appt went well today!

>

> Hi. I am Lori from Indiana, USA. I have a 9 year old daughter with

(I am

> pretty sure) OCD. Her initial eval is today after school. She has

been having

> trouble at school for quite some time and it took me a couple

years to

> recognize the OCD issues. I don't know why, I have OCD, too. It is

[Guest guest]

Hi , Where are you at in Ca.? I live in So. Ca.

Sandy

>

> > Hi. I am Lori from Indiana, USA. I have a 9 year old

> > daughter with (I am

> > pretty sure) OCD. Her initial eval is today after

> > school. She has been having

> > trouble at school for quite some time and it took me

> > a couple years to

> > recognize the OCD issues. I don't know why, I have

> > OCD, too. It is mild. I took

> > medications awhile but I have bad reactions to all

> > SSRI's so I deal with my

> > problems without meds. I have also dealt with

> > depression, but no longer suffer from

> > that. I have learned how to live with my OCD and it

> > is just part of who I

> > am. It is a daily struggle I am used to I guess.

> >

> > My daughter, however, seems to have it worse. I

> > don't know if 9 is young to

> > be diagnosed with it or not. I am not even sure that

> > will be her diagnosis

> > but if it is not OCD I do not know what it is. She

> > has episodes at school where

> > she loses control and " shuts down " and these

> > problems have prompted many a

> > meeting and phone call with the

> > principal/teacher/counselor, etc. I guess I

> > thought she would grow out of it and I somehow

> > ignored some obvious signs, like

> > her compulsive cleaning, changing clothes several

> > times a day, preoccupation

> > with being clean and flossing her teeth (she is not

> > a hand washer) and her

> > clothes cannot have ANY spots on them. The part in

> > her hair has to be

> > perfectly straight. How she organizes and if I try

> > to help I can never " do it right " .

> > At school is a whole other set of ideals for her.

> > Her handwriting is very

> > neat and precise, has to be perfect or she just

> > starts over with a NEW piece of

> > paper (erasing is not acceptable, makes it bad). She

> > will do a problem over

> > and over trying to get it perfect, we go through

> > tons of paper. We just

> > labeled her a perfectionist for the longest time

> > while I tried to get her to be

> > reasonable and accept less than perfect as OK. Her

> > standards are rather

> > unrealistic and are what prompts the episodes at

> > school. UGH I should have seen it

> > long ago. The good thing is, I know how her mind

> > thinks since I have it, too,

> > and hopefully we can get through this together. I

> > will let you know what the

> > Dr says. What can I expect? Will there be more than

> > one appointment required

> > to make a diagnosis and formulate a treatment plan?

> > Well, nice to " meet " you

> > all.

> >

> > ~~Lori

> >

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> > kindly. Leave the rest to

> > God.

> >

> >

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Hi , Where are you at in Ca.? I live in So. Ca.

Sandy

>

> > Hi. I am Lori from Indiana, USA. I have a 9 year old

> > daughter with (I am

> > pretty sure) OCD. Her initial eval is today after

> > school. She has been having

> > trouble at school for quite some time and it took me

> > a couple years to

> > recognize the OCD issues. I don't know why, I have

> > OCD, too. It is mild. I took

> > medications awhile but I have bad reactions to all

> > SSRI's so I deal with my

> > problems without meds. I have also dealt with

> > depression, but no longer suffer from

> > that. I have learned how to live with my OCD and it

> > is just part of who I

> > am. It is a daily struggle I am used to I guess.

> >

> > My daughter, however, seems to have it worse. I

> > don't know if 9 is young to

> > be diagnosed with it or not. I am not even sure that

> > will be her diagnosis

> > but if it is not OCD I do not know what it is. She

> > has episodes at school where

> > she loses control and " shuts down " and these

> > problems have prompted many a

> > meeting and phone call with the

> > principal/teacher/counselor, etc. I guess I

> > thought she would grow out of it and I somehow

> > ignored some obvious signs, like

> > her compulsive cleaning, changing clothes several

> > times a day, preoccupation

> > with being clean and flossing her teeth (she is not

> > a hand washer) and her

> > clothes cannot have ANY spots on them. The part in

> > her hair has to be

> > perfectly straight. How she organizes and if I try

> > to help I can never " do it right " .

> > At school is a whole other set of ideals for her.

> > Her handwriting is very

> > neat and precise, has to be perfect or she just

> > starts over with a NEW piece of

> > paper (erasing is not acceptable, makes it bad). She

> > will do a problem over

> > and over trying to get it perfect, we go through

> > tons of paper. We just

> > labeled her a perfectionist for the longest time

> > while I tried to get her to be

> > reasonable and accept less than perfect as OK. Her

> > standards are rather

> > unrealistic and are what prompts the episodes at

> > school. UGH I should have seen it

> > long ago. The good thing is, I know how her mind

> > thinks since I have it, too,

> > and hopefully we can get through this together. I

> > will let you know what the

> > Dr says. What can I expect? Will there be more than

> > one appointment required

> > to make a diagnosis and formulate a treatment plan?

> > Well, nice to " meet " you

> > all.

> >

> > ~~Lori

> >

> > Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak

> > kindly. Leave the rest to

> > God.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lori,

Welcome.....it sounds like OCD to me. My daughter is 8 and was diagnosed at

5 (we saw symptoms though at age 3). My daughter has had almost all of the

symptoms you mentioned at one time or another. I hope your appointment goes

well. We see a psychiatrist for medication and are currently looking for a

competent therapist for CBT. Your daughter will probably be diagnosed based on

your description of her problems because she will probably not demonstrate any

symptoms sitting in the dr.'s office. Hopefully you will then be referred to a

therapist who can work with her. I wish you well! Please keep us posted.

Kath

p.s. despite not wanting my daughter on ANY medication.....a low dose of

Prozac is making all the difference in the world for her. She still struggles

daily, but is functional. There is hope.

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[Guest guest]

I've had those thoughts too. As well, thoughts of climbing over the rail on a

balcony,

stepping off a cliff, etc. I'd never act on them, but the thoughts are

upsetting.

About a year ago, when travelling back and forth on the highway from visiting my

ailing

FIL, I had the thought of pulling into the oncoming lane. It was when I was by

myself in the

car and it was extremely upsetting. I think perhaps my thoughts were stemming

from the

stress & anxiety around my FIL suffering from terminal brain cancer.

> > Hi. I am Lori from Indiana, USA. I have a 9 year

> > old daughter with (I am

> > pretty sure) OCD. Her initial eval is today after

> > school. She has been having

> > trouble at school for quite some time and it took me

> > a couple years to

> > recognize the OCD issues. I don't know why, I have

> > OCD, too. It is mild. I took

> > medications awhile but I have bad reactions to all

> > SSRI's so I deal with my

> > problems without meds. I have also dealt with

> > depression, but no longer suffer from

> > that. I have learned how to live with my OCD and it

> > is just part of who I

> > am. It is a daily struggle I am used to I guess.

> >

> > My daughter, however, seems to have it worse. I

> > don't know if 9 is young to

> > be diagnosed with it or not. I am not even sure that

> > will be her diagnosis

> > but if it is not OCD I do not know what it is. She

> > has episodes at school where

> > she loses control and " shuts down " and these

> > problems have prompted many a

> > meeting and phone call with the

> > principal/teacher/counselor, etc. I guess I

> > thought she would grow out of it and I somehow

> > ignored some obvious signs, like

> > her compulsive cleaning, changing clothes several

> > times a day, preoccupation

> > with being clean and flossing her teeth (she is not

> > a hand washer) and her

> > clothes cannot have ANY spots on them. The part in

> > her hair has to be

> > perfectly straight. How she organizes and if I try

> > to help I can never " do it right " .

> > At school is a whole other set of ideals for her.

> > Her handwriting is very

> > neat and precise, has to be perfect or she just

> > starts over with a NEW piece of

> > paper (erasing is not acceptable, makes it bad). She

> > will do a problem over

> > and over trying to get it perfect, we go through

> > tons of paper. We just

> > labeled her a perfectionist for the longest time

> > while I tried to get her to be

> > reasonable and accept less than perfect as OK. Her

> > standards are rather

> > unrealistic and are what prompts the episodes at

> > school. UGH I should have seen it

> > long ago. The good thing is, I know how her mind

> > thinks since I have it, too,

> > and hopefully we can get through this together. I

> > will let you know what the

> > Dr says. What can I expect? Will there be more than

> > one appointment required

> > to make a diagnosis and formulate a treatment plan?

> > Well, nice to " meet " you

> > all.

> >

> > ~~Lori

> >

> > Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak

> > kindly. Leave the rest to

> > God.

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lori,

9 is not too young for diagnosis. My 5 year old daughter is in the process of

being

assessed right now. Our initial appointment with a mental health councellor

confirmed

that it's OCD. She's been exhibiting symptoms since she was 2.5 years old. Up

until now,

we had been told she was too young for counselling, but now we can look at some

play

therapy.

My daughters symptoms don't really show up at school (she just started

kindergarten, and

previously attended preschool for two years), but her perfectionist tendencies

have made

life very difficult for the whole family for the last 2.5 years. She needs to be

in control of

everything, and everything " bugs " her, especially clothes, and drying her

hands/body.

>

> Hi. I am Lori from Indiana, USA. I have a 9 year old daughter with (I am

> pretty sure) OCD. Her initial eval is today after school. She has been having

> trouble at school for quite some time and it took me a couple years to

> recognize the OCD issues. I don't know why, I have OCD, too. It is mild. I

took

> medications awhile but I have bad reactions to all SSRI's so I deal with my

> problems without meds. I have also dealt with depression, but no longer suffer

from

> that. I have learned how to live with my OCD and it is just part of who I

> am. It is a daily struggle I am used to I guess.

>

> My daughter, however, seems to have it worse. I don't know if 9 is young to

> be diagnosed with it or not. I am not even sure that will be her diagnosis

> but if it is not OCD I do not know what it is. She has episodes at school

where

> she loses control and " shuts down " and these problems have prompted many a

> meeting and phone call with the principal/teacher/counselor, etc. I guess I

> thought she would grow out of it and I somehow ignored some obvious signs,

like

> her compulsive cleaning, changing clothes several times a day, preoccupation

> with being clean and flossing her teeth (she is not a hand washer) and her

> clothes cannot have ANY spots on them. The part in her hair has to be

> perfectly straight. How she organizes and if I try to help I can never " do it

right " .

> At school is a whole other set of ideals for her. Her handwriting is very

> neat and precise, has to be perfect or she just starts over with a NEW piece

of

> paper (erasing is not acceptable, makes it bad). She will do a problem over

> and over trying to get it perfect, we go through tons of paper. We just

> labeled her a perfectionist for the longest time while I tried to get her to

be

> reasonable and accept less than perfect as OK. Her standards are rather

> unrealistic and are what prompts the episodes at school. UGH I should have

seen it

> long ago. The good thing is, I know how her mind thinks since I have it, too,

> and hopefully we can get through this together. I will let you know what the

> Dr says. What can I expect? Will there be more than one appointment required

> to make a diagnosis and formulate a treatment plan? Well, nice to " meet " you

> all.

>

> ~~Lori

>

> Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to

> God.

>

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Lori,

9 is not too young for diagnosis. My 5 year old daughter is in the process of

being

assessed right now. Our initial appointment with a mental health councellor

confirmed

that it's OCD. She's been exhibiting symptoms since she was 2.5 years old. Up

until now,

we had been told she was too young for counselling, but now we can look at some

play

therapy.

My daughters symptoms don't really show up at school (she just started

kindergarten, and

previously attended preschool for two years), but her perfectionist tendencies

have made

life very difficult for the whole family for the last 2.5 years. She needs to be

in control of

everything, and everything " bugs " her, especially clothes, and drying her

hands/body.

>

> Hi. I am Lori from Indiana, USA. I have a 9 year old daughter with (I am

> pretty sure) OCD. Her initial eval is today after school. She has been having

> trouble at school for quite some time and it took me a couple years to

> recognize the OCD issues. I don't know why, I have OCD, too. It is mild. I

took

> medications awhile but I have bad reactions to all SSRI's so I deal with my

> problems without meds. I have also dealt with depression, but no longer suffer

from

> that. I have learned how to live with my OCD and it is just part of who I

> am. It is a daily struggle I am used to I guess.

>

> My daughter, however, seems to have it worse. I don't know if 9 is young to

> be diagnosed with it or not. I am not even sure that will be her diagnosis

> but if it is not OCD I do not know what it is. She has episodes at school

where

> she loses control and " shuts down " and these problems have prompted many a

> meeting and phone call with the principal/teacher/counselor, etc. I guess I

> thought she would grow out of it and I somehow ignored some obvious signs,

like

> her compulsive cleaning, changing clothes several times a day, preoccupation

> with being clean and flossing her teeth (she is not a hand washer) and her

> clothes cannot have ANY spots on them. The part in her hair has to be

> perfectly straight. How she organizes and if I try to help I can never " do it

right " .

> At school is a whole other set of ideals for her. Her handwriting is very

> neat and precise, has to be perfect or she just starts over with a NEW piece

of

> paper (erasing is not acceptable, makes it bad). She will do a problem over

> and over trying to get it perfect, we go through tons of paper. We just

> labeled her a perfectionist for the longest time while I tried to get her to

be

> reasonable and accept less than perfect as OK. Her standards are rather

> unrealistic and are what prompts the episodes at school. UGH I should have

seen it

> long ago. The good thing is, I know how her mind thinks since I have it, too,

> and hopefully we can get through this together. I will let you know what the

> Dr says. What can I expect? Will there be more than one appointment required

> to make a diagnosis and formulate a treatment plan? Well, nice to " meet " you

> all.

>

> ~~Lori

>

> Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to

> God.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/25/2007 10:38:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mishi8@... writes:

I've had those thoughts too. As well, thoughts of climbing over the rail on

a balcony,

stepping off a cliff, etc. I'd never act on them, but the thoughts are

upsetting.

I thought everyone had thoughts like this. I have these all the time. I just

ignore them or make myself think of something else. I could list hundreds of

them...you SURE not everyone has these?

~~Lori

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to

God.

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In a message dated 9/25/2007 10:49:14 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

mishi8@... writes:

She needs to be in control of

everything, and everything " bugs " her, especially clothes, and drying her

hands/body.

Yup, this is my DD. One speck of grime on her clothes and off they come. We

could not get her to wear shoes for the longest time. She still has to have a

pair 1 size too big at least. And now it is socks, too. She wears the same

pair all the time and I have to take them from her (it is the same as another

pair but they are not as good for some reason). Buying her shoes is a

guarantee tears and arguing in the store. I DREAD it. Her clothes feel " wrong "

and

she is always saying she has nothing to wear. I will only buy her clothes from

Goodwill now because of this, most the time she never wears them after we

buy them and she tries on everything. She has a flossing routine at night

before bed and it drives my other 2 kids crazy. And here I was HAPPY one of my

kids actually flossed! I have never told her NOT to floss (it is just once a

day

usually) but have told her she needs to go last in the bathroom because it

takes up so much time.

I could go on and on about " her things " she is particular about. I am the

same way, I did not realize it was part of OCD, just thought everyone had their

things. Here at home we call them " analities " LOL. We make up words all the

time.

~~Lori

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to

God.

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[Guest guest]

Me too, *big* time!

I definitely enter this mode when things get rough. Gee, I wonder why

my son does the same? :-)

The worst time was four years ago just after my dear brother in law

took his own life (by jumping off a 400-foot high bridge). I could

barely drive two feet without thoughts of ramming my car into a wall

or driving off a cliff. (I read some materials aimed at those left

behind after suicide and apparently it's pretty darn normal to feel

suicidal after someone close to you takes his life.)

These days, I find that while I rarely had " bad thoughts " much in the

past, they seem to be popping up more and more since I subscribed to

this list and reading about bad thought OCD! So, my apologies, but I

will be not reading as much here as I first did because it seems I

absorb stuff a *bit* too intensely or something.

Cat

-- In , poetry4me75@... wrote:

>

>

> In a message dated 9/25/2007 10:38:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> mishi8@... writes:

>

> I've had those thoughts too. As well, thoughts of climbing over the

rail on

> a balcony,

> stepping off a cliff, etc. I'd never act on them, but the thoughts are

> upsetting.

>

>

[Guest guest]

These days, I find that while I rarely

had " bad thoughts " much in the past, they seem to be popping up more

and more since I subscribed to this list and reading about bad thought

OCD!

Yeah, my son's scrupulosity and my thinking so much/talking about

it has triggered my own scrupe thoughts back. So I understand what

you mean! Luckily mine aren't the intensity/frequency his are and I

understand them for what they are, shrug them off.

When young (before any kids) I also had the type " just keep straight

at the next curve " type thoughts but never any intention of actually

doing something. Depression is hard.

[Guest guest]

Oh, wrong location!! I've almost had that happen with more than one

type medical appt. Call one number and think *that* is where I'll be

going but it's actually another location!

Well YAY for the school counselor!! Sounds like you will get support

from that direction! One weight off your shoulders (meaning

sometimes it's not easy to get the school " on board " with helping).

>

>

> In a message dated 9/24/2007 7:51:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

>

> Thanks everyone for their welcome. Well don't ya know they screwed

up the

> appointment. I took my daughter out of school 2 hours early,

arrived half an

> hour early to fill out papers and half way through the papers they

tell me her

> name is not on the appt list for the day. I have a tendency to

screw up dates

>

[Guest guest]

Oh, wrong location!! I've almost had that happen with more than one

type medical appt. Call one number and think *that* is where I'll be

going but it's actually another location!

Well YAY for the school counselor!! Sounds like you will get support

from that direction! One weight off your shoulders (meaning

sometimes it's not easy to get the school " on board " with helping).

>

>

> In a message dated 9/24/2007 7:51:42 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

>

> Thanks everyone for their welcome. Well don't ya know they screwed

up the

> appointment. I took my daughter out of school 2 hours early,

arrived half an

> hour early to fill out papers and half way through the papers they

tell me her

> name is not on the appt list for the day. I have a tendency to

screw up dates

>

[Guest guest]

I think everyone has had those thoughts now and again!

Dina

[Guest guest]

I think so too. I think with OCD they get stuck or you pay too much attention to

them, or they cause you distress. I do find I'm bothered by them more now since

learning more about OCD. I'm sure I have a mild case, never has been much to

deal with, but it is there.

J

Re: Re: New

I think everyone has had those thoughts now and again!

Dina

[Guest guest]

I think so too. I think with OCD they get stuck or you pay too much attention to

them, or they cause you distress. I do find I'm bothered by them more now since

learning more about OCD. I'm sure I have a mild case, never has been much to

deal with, but it is there.

J

Re: Re: New

I think everyone has had those thoughts now and again!

Dina

[Guest guest]

I have the driving off the road thing too! IT doesn't happen unless my OCD is

really bad. But scary when it does! I was driving up to Minnesota (from

Nebraska) by myself when I was having a particularly bad flare up and had to

pull into a gas station several times.

Laurie

Boothe <cricketdo@...> wrote:

So, with harming myself....it happens when I am

driving. If I am on an overpass/bridge...I think of

driving off of it. I would never do it, but it is a

fleeting thought everytime I am on one...or a curve

that has a steep edge. And, only when I am alone,

never with my daughters in my car. I don't have a

fear of hurting others. I don't know if DD has

that....haven't asked her. I do know she tells me she

wishes she was dead....which upsets me.

--- wallflower wrote:

> No, 9 is not too young to be diagnosed. I have OCD,

> and was pretty bad at age 9.

>

> Don't feel bad about missing it in your daughter.

> I didn't realize how bad hers was until she was

> almost 12. (a year ago).

>

> She and I both have fears that we may harm

> ourselves or others, and therefore avoid " scary "

> things. My daughter's fears are of knives. Mine

> (don't laugh!) are of coffee cups.

>

> Last year, my daughter reported that she'd been

> having fears of hurting herself since she was 7!

> All I could see on the outside was her little

> quirks. Until last year, she was just diagnosed

> with ADHD.

>

> My daughter went through a bunch of psych testing

> to get diagnosed with ADHD, but her OCD was

> diagnosed based on symptoms.

>

> Sorry you have to be here, but nice to meet you!

>

> Laurie

>

> poetry4me75@... wrote:

> Hi. I am Lori from Indiana, USA. I have a 9 year

> old daughter with (I am

> pretty sure) OCD. Her initial eval is today after

> school. She has been having

> trouble at school for quite some time and it took me

> a couple years to

> recognize the OCD issues. I don't know why, I have

> OCD, too. It is mild. I took

> medications awhile but I have bad reactions to all

> SSRI's so I deal with my

> problems without meds. I have also dealt with

> depression, but no longer suffer from

> that. I have learned how to live with my OCD and it

> is just part of who I

> am. It is a daily struggle I am used to I guess.

>

> My daughter, however, seems to have it worse. I

> don't know if 9 is young to

> be diagnosed with it or not. I am not even sure that

> will be her diagnosis

> but if it is not OCD I do not know what it is. She

> has episodes at school where

> she loses control and " shuts down " and these

> problems have prompted many a

> meeting and phone call with the

> principal/teacher/counselor, etc. I guess I

> thought she would grow out of it and I somehow

> ignored some obvious signs, like

> her compulsive cleaning, changing clothes several

> times a day, preoccupation

> with being clean and flossing her teeth (she is not

> a hand washer) and her

> clothes cannot have ANY spots on them. The part in

> her hair has to be

> perfectly straight. How she organizes and if I try

> to help I can never " do it right " .

> At school is a whole other set of ideals for her.

> Her handwriting is very

> neat and precise, has to be perfect or she just

> starts over with a NEW piece of

> paper (erasing is not acceptable, makes it bad). She

> will do a problem over

> and over trying to get it perfect, we go through

> tons of paper. We just

> labeled her a perfectionist for the longest time

> while I tried to get her to be

> reasonable and accept less than perfect as OK. Her

> standards are rather

> unrealistic and are what prompts the episodes at

> school. UGH I should have seen it

> long ago. The good thing is, I know how her mind

> thinks since I have it, too,

> and hopefully we can get through this together. I

> will let you know what the

> Dr says. What can I expect? Will there be more than

> one appointment required

> to make a diagnosis and formulate a treatment plan?

> Well, nice to " meet " you

> all.

>

> ~~Lori

>

> Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak

> kindly. Leave the rest to

> God.

>

>

>

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I have the balcony/rail thing too. No advice. Just a me too!

Laurie

J <mishi8@...> wrote:

I've had those thoughts too. As well, thoughts of climbing over the rail on a

balcony,

stepping off a cliff, etc. I'd never act on them, but the thoughts are

upsetting.

About a year ago, when travelling back and forth on the highway from visiting my

ailing

FIL, I had the thought of pulling into the oncoming lane. It was when I was by

myself in the

car and it was extremely upsetting. I think perhaps my thoughts were stemming

from the

stress & anxiety around my FIL suffering from terminal brain cancer.

> > Hi. I am Lori from Indiana, USA. I have a 9 year

> > old daughter with (I am

> > pretty sure) OCD. Her initial eval is today after

> > school. She has been having

> > trouble at school for quite some time and it took me

> > a couple years to

> > recognize the OCD issues. I don't know why, I have

> > OCD, too. It is mild. I took

> > medications awhile but I have bad reactions to all

> > SSRI's so I deal with my

> > problems without meds. I have also dealt with

> > depression, but no longer suffer from

> > that. I have learned how to live with my OCD and it

> > is just part of who I

> > am. It is a daily struggle I am used to I guess.

> >

> > My daughter, however, seems to have it worse. I

> > don't know if 9 is young to

> > be diagnosed with it or not. I am not even sure that

> > will be her diagnosis

> > but if it is not OCD I do not know what it is. She

> > has episodes at school where

> > she loses control and " shuts down " and these

> > problems have prompted many a

> > meeting and phone call with the

> > principal/teacher/counselor, etc. I guess I

> > thought she would grow out of it and I somehow

> > ignored some obvious signs, like

> > her compulsive cleaning, changing clothes several

> > times a day, preoccupation

> > with being clean and flossing her teeth (she is not

> > a hand washer) and her

> > clothes cannot have ANY spots on them. The part in

> > her hair has to be

> > perfectly straight. How she organizes and if I try

> > to help I can never " do it right " .

> > At school is a whole other set of ideals for her.

> > Her handwriting is very

> > neat and precise, has to be perfect or she just

> > starts over with a NEW piece of

> > paper (erasing is not acceptable, makes it bad). She

> > will do a problem over

> > and over trying to get it perfect, we go through

> > tons of paper. We just

> > labeled her a perfectionist for the longest time

> > while I tried to get her to be

> > reasonable and accept less than perfect as OK. Her

> > standards are rather

> > unrealistic and are what prompts the episodes at

> > school. UGH I should have seen it

> > long ago. The good thing is, I know how her mind

> > thinks since I have it, too,

> > and hopefully we can get through this together. I

> > will let you know what the

> > Dr says. What can I expect? Will there be more than

> > one appointment required

> > to make a diagnosis and formulate a treatment plan?

> > Well, nice to " meet " you

> > all.

> >

> > ~~Lori

> >

> > Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak

> > kindly. Leave the rest to

> > God.

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I think everyone has quick thoughts and

such...like the others have mentioned. But, if it is

an OCD thing...it is a bit more intense--like, I

start crying, and have to shake my head telling myself

not to do it. And, then it puts me in a funk for the

rest of the day. And, like you, the intensity

correlates to my OCD cycle.

Hey, just curious---besides personal life, my OCD gets

out of control in relation to my hormones. Does that

happen to anyone else? My doc had mentioned putting

me on something during part of my cycle...'cos my OCD

gets really flaring. But, I don't like the

meds...and, I think it's just " me " . Plus, my house

gets really clean and organized during that time! LOL

(although, my hubby gets mad because I clear out lots

of stuff and pile it all in the garage). And, I get

WAY ahead with my workload at my job.

--- wallflower <wallflower67@...> wrote:

> I have the driving off the road thing too! IT

> doesn't happen unless my OCD is really bad. But

> scary when it does! I was driving up to Minnesota

> (from Nebraska) by myself when I was having a

> particularly bad flare up and had to pull into a gas

> station several times.

>

> Laurie

>

> Boothe <cricketdo@...> wrote:

> So, with harming myself....it happens when I am

> driving. If I am on an overpass/bridge...I think of

> driving off of it. I would never do it, but it is a

> fleeting thought everytime I am on one...or a curve

> that has a steep edge. And, only when I am alone,

> never with my daughters in my car. I don't have a

> fear of hurting others. I don't know if DD has

> that....haven't asked her. I do know she tells me

> she

> wishes she was dead....which upsets me.

>

>

>

>

> --- wallflower wrote:

>

> > No, 9 is not too young to be diagnosed. I have

> OCD,

> > and was pretty bad at age 9.

> >

> > Don't feel bad about missing it in your daughter.

> > I didn't realize how bad hers was until she was

> > almost 12. (a year ago).

> >

> > She and I both have fears that we may harm

> > ourselves or others, and therefore avoid " scary "

> > things. My daughter's fears are of knives. Mine

> > (don't laugh!) are of coffee cups.

> >

> > Last year, my daughter reported that she'd been

> > having fears of hurting herself since she was 7!

> > All I could see on the outside was her little

> > quirks. Until last year, she was just diagnosed

> > with ADHD.

> >

> > My daughter went through a bunch of psych testing

> > to get diagnosed with ADHD, but her OCD was

> > diagnosed based on symptoms.

> >

> > Sorry you have to be here, but nice to meet you!

> >

> > Laurie

> >

> > poetry4me75@... wrote:

> > Hi. I am Lori from Indiana, USA. I have a 9 year

> > old daughter with (I am

> > pretty sure) OCD. Her initial eval is today after

> > school. She has been having

> > trouble at school for quite some time and it took

> me

> > a couple years to

> > recognize the OCD issues. I don't know why, I have

> > OCD, too. It is mild. I took

> > medications awhile but I have bad reactions to all

> > SSRI's so I deal with my

> > problems without meds. I have also dealt with

> > depression, but no longer suffer from

> > that. I have learned how to live with my OCD and

> it

> > is just part of who I

> > am. It is a daily struggle I am used to I guess.

> >

> > My daughter, however, seems to have it worse. I

> > don't know if 9 is young to

> > be diagnosed with it or not. I am not even sure

> that

> > will be her diagnosis

> > but if it is not OCD I do not know what it is. She

> > has episodes at school where

> > she loses control and " shuts down " and these

> > problems have prompted many a

> > meeting and phone call with the

> > principal/teacher/counselor, etc. I guess I

> > thought she would grow out of it and I somehow

> > ignored some obvious signs, like

> > her compulsive cleaning, changing clothes several

> > times a day, preoccupation

> > with being clean and flossing her teeth (she is

> not

> > a hand washer) and her

> > clothes cannot have ANY spots on them. The part in

> > her hair has to be

> > perfectly straight. How she organizes and if I try

> > to help I can never " do it right " .

> > At school is a whole other set of ideals for her.

> > Her handwriting is very

> > neat and precise, has to be perfect or she just

> > starts over with a NEW piece of

> > paper (erasing is not acceptable, makes it bad).

> She

> > will do a problem over

> > and over trying to get it perfect, we go through

> > tons of paper. We just

> > labeled her a perfectionist for the longest time

> > while I tried to get her to be

> > reasonable and accept less than perfect as OK. Her

> > standards are rather

> > unrealistic and are what prompts the episodes at

> > school. UGH I should have seen it

> > long ago. The good thing is, I know how her mind

> > thinks since I have it, too,

> > and hopefully we can get through this together. I

> > will let you know what the

> > Dr says. What can I expect? Will there be more

> than

> > one appointment required

> > to make a diagnosis and formulate a treatment

> plan?

> > Well, nice to " meet " you

> > all.

> >

> > ~~Lori

> >

> > Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak

> > kindly. Leave the rest to

> > God.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I think everyone has quick thoughts and

such...like the others have mentioned. But, if it is

an OCD thing...it is a bit more intense--like, I

start crying, and have to shake my head telling myself

not to do it. And, then it puts me in a funk for the

rest of the day. And, like you, the intensity

correlates to my OCD cycle.

Hey, just curious---besides personal life, my OCD gets

out of control in relation to my hormones. Does that

happen to anyone else? My doc had mentioned putting

me on something during part of my cycle...'cos my OCD

gets really flaring. But, I don't like the

meds...and, I think it's just " me " . Plus, my house

gets really clean and organized during that time! LOL

(although, my hubby gets mad because I clear out lots

of stuff and pile it all in the garage). And, I get

WAY ahead with my workload at my job.

--- wallflower <wallflower67@...> wrote:

> I have the driving off the road thing too! IT

> doesn't happen unless my OCD is really bad. But

> scary when it does! I was driving up to Minnesota

> (from Nebraska) by myself when I was having a

> particularly bad flare up and had to pull into a gas

> station several times.

>

> Laurie

>

> Boothe <cricketdo@...> wrote:

> So, with harming myself....it happens when I am

> driving. If I am on an overpass/bridge...I think of

> driving off of it. I would never do it, but it is a

> fleeting thought everytime I am on one...or a curve

> that has a steep edge. And, only when I am alone,

> never with my daughters in my car. I don't have a

> fear of hurting others. I don't know if DD has

> that....haven't asked her. I do know she tells me

> she

> wishes she was dead....which upsets me.

>

>

>

>

> --- wallflower wrote:

>

> > No, 9 is not too young to be diagnosed. I have

> OCD,

> > and was pretty bad at age 9.

> >

> > Don't feel bad about missing it in your daughter.

> > I didn't realize how bad hers was until she was

> > almost 12. (a year ago).

> >

> > She and I both have fears that we may harm

> > ourselves or others, and therefore avoid " scary "

> > things. My daughter's fears are of knives. Mine

> > (don't laugh!) are of coffee cups.

> >

> > Last year, my daughter reported that she'd been

> > having fears of hurting herself since she was 7!

> > All I could see on the outside was her little

> > quirks. Until last year, she was just diagnosed

> > with ADHD.

> >

> > My daughter went through a bunch of psych testing

> > to get diagnosed with ADHD, but her OCD was

> > diagnosed based on symptoms.

> >

> > Sorry you have to be here, but nice to meet you!

> >

> > Laurie

> >

> > poetry4me75@... wrote:

> > Hi. I am Lori from Indiana, USA. I have a 9 year

> > old daughter with (I am

> > pretty sure) OCD. Her initial eval is today after

> > school. She has been having

> > trouble at school for quite some time and it took

> me

> > a couple years to

> > recognize the OCD issues. I don't know why, I have

> > OCD, too. It is mild. I took

> > medications awhile but I have bad reactions to all

> > SSRI's so I deal with my

> > problems without meds. I have also dealt with

> > depression, but no longer suffer from

> > that. I have learned how to live with my OCD and

> it

> > is just part of who I

> > am. It is a daily struggle I am used to I guess.

> >

> > My daughter, however, seems to have it worse. I

> > don't know if 9 is young to

> > be diagnosed with it or not. I am not even sure

> that

> > will be her diagnosis

> > but if it is not OCD I do not know what it is. She

> > has episodes at school where

> > she loses control and " shuts down " and these

> > problems have prompted many a

> > meeting and phone call with the

> > principal/teacher/counselor, etc. I guess I

> > thought she would grow out of it and I somehow

> > ignored some obvious signs, like

> > her compulsive cleaning, changing clothes several

> > times a day, preoccupation

> > with being clean and flossing her teeth (she is

> not

> > a hand washer) and her

> > clothes cannot have ANY spots on them. The part in

> > her hair has to be

> > perfectly straight. How she organizes and if I try

> > to help I can never " do it right " .

> > At school is a whole other set of ideals for her.

> > Her handwriting is very

> > neat and precise, has to be perfect or she just

> > starts over with a NEW piece of

> > paper (erasing is not acceptable, makes it bad).

> She

> > will do a problem over

> > and over trying to get it perfect, we go through

> > tons of paper. We just

> > labeled her a perfectionist for the longest time

> > while I tried to get her to be

> > reasonable and accept less than perfect as OK. Her

> > standards are rather

> > unrealistic and are what prompts the episodes at

> > school. UGH I should have seen it

> > long ago. The good thing is, I know how her mind

> > thinks since I have it, too,

> > and hopefully we can get through this together. I

> > will let you know what the

> > Dr says. What can I expect? Will there be more

> than

> > one appointment required

> > to make a diagnosis and formulate a treatment

> plan?

> > Well, nice to " meet " you

> > all.

> >

> > ~~Lori

> >

> > Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak

> > kindly. Leave the rest to

> > God.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

I have the balcony thing, the driving off the road thing and more.? I DON'T

have OCD.? These thoughts can come with depression.? They are not normal.

Re: Re: New

I have the balcony/rail thing too. No advice. Just a me too!

Laurie

J <mishi8@...> wrote:

I've had those thoughts too. As well, thoughts of climbing over the rail on a

balcony,

stepping off a cliff, etc. I'd never act on them, but the thoughts are

upsetting.

About a year ago, when travelling back and forth on the highway from visiting my

ailing

FIL, I had the thought of pulling into the oncoming lane. It was when I was by

myself in the

car and it was extremely upsetting. I think perhaps my thoughts were stemming

from the

stress & anxiety around my FIL suffering from terminal brain cancer.

> > Hi. I am Lori from Indiana, USA. I have a 9 year

> > old daughter with (I am

> > pretty sure) OCD. Her initial eval is today after

> > school. She has been having

> > trouble at school for quite some time and it took me

> > a couple years to

> > recognize the OCD issues. I don't know why, I have

> > OCD, too. It is mild. I took

> > medications awhile but I have bad reactions to all

> > SSRI's so I deal with my

> > problems without meds. I have also dealt with

> > depression, but no longer suffer from

> > that. I have learned how to live with my OCD and it

> > is just part of who I

> > am. It is a daily struggle I am used to I guess.

> >

> > My daughter, however, seems to have it worse. I

> > don't know if 9 is young to

> > be diagnosed with it or not. I am not even sure that

> > will be her diagnosis

> > but if it is not OCD I do not know what it is. She

> > has episodes at school where

> > she loses control and " shuts down " and these

> > problems have prompted many a

> > meeting and phone call with the

> > principal/teacher/counselor, etc. I guess I

> > thought she would grow out of it and I somehow

> > ignored some obvious signs, like

> > her compulsive cleaning, changing clothes several

> > times a day, preoccupation

> > with being clean and flossing her teeth (she is not

> > a hand washer) and her

> > clothes cannot have ANY spots on them. The part in

> > her hair has to be

> > perfectly straight. How she organizes and if I try

> > to help I can never " do it right " .

> > At school is a whole other set of ideals for her.

> > Her handwriting is very

> > neat and precise, has to be perfect or she just

> > starts over with a NEW piece of

> > paper (erasing is not acceptable, makes it bad). She

> > will do a problem over

> > and over trying to get it perfect, we go through

> > tons of paper. We just

> > labeled her a perfectionist for the longest time

> > while I tried to get her to be

> > reasonable and accept less than perfect as OK. Her

> > standards are rather

> > unrealistic and are what prompts the episodes at

> > school. UGH I should have seen it

> > long ago. The good thing is, I know how her mind

> > thinks since I have it, too,

> > and hopefully we can get through this together. I

> > will let you know what the

> > Dr says. What can I expect? Will there be more than

> > one appointment required

> > to make a diagnosis and formulate a treatment plan?

> > Well, nice to " meet " you

> > all.

> >

> > ~~Lori

> >

> > Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak

> > kindly. Leave the rest to

> > God.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ************************************** See what's

> > new at http://www.aol.com

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In a message dated 9/26/2007 10:09:42 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

cricketdo@... writes:

Plus, my house

gets really clean and organized during that time!

LOL. I have never paid attention to see if my flares are hormonal related. I

know my acne is LOL. I do get into funks where I have to have everything

clean. Anyone else scrub with a toothbrush? I hate these times, tho, because I

HAVE to clean what is bothering me, it gets me so off track and I end of

running out of time to do things that are higher priority. Ya know, like making

dinner. But hey, who needs to eat?

~~Lori

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to

God.

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In a message dated 9/26/2007 10:25:32 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

imogeneyassi@... writes:

I have the balcony thing, the driving off the road thing and more.? I DON'T

have OCD.? These thoughts can come with depression.? They are not normal.

Are you SURE they are not normal? I bet if we started asking around we would

be surprised. I mean, until this thread, I NEVER mentioned it to ANYone.

Never related it to OCD either, just thought I was losing my mind. Now that I

think about it, most my problems really are OCD related. I won't even tell you

about the 3rd grade field trip I took today with my daughter (the one who

hasn't been diagnosed yet...BTW I made the appt for a week from today). Doing

things away from home stresses me out so bad because I start thinking of all

the stuff I HAVE to do at home (now, what is necessary to me is not necessarily

necessary to others) and all I can think of is getting home. I do this every

time I am away...grocery shopping (which is something I have to do, too) and

church, school events, etc. If I have several things to do at home, I will

start one, start another, start another, and take turns going back to them all

and finishing them. They ALL get done tho (recall I am one of those that has

to finish EVERYTHING even if it is pointless). NOW I know why I am such a

homebody! I think part of beating OCD is accepting it IS part of who you are and

even making fun of yourself at times. For everything there is a

season....crying about OCD, laughing about it, going with it, fighting it...it

is just

ME. Oh well. My husband loves me so who cares about anyone else? LOL

As for being a finisher, I am currently reading a book I cannot stand

because I started it. UGH.

~~Lori

Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to

God.

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My OCD is pretty hormone sensetive. It does get a bit worse when I'm PMSing.

Last month was worse. And if something bad is going on in my life as well as

PMS, then I can have problems.

The worst thing for me, though, is birth control pills and pregnancy. After

few months on BCPs I get so deprssed and my intrusive thoughts increase

dramatically. Last time, I used the Nuva Ring, because it has less hormones

than the pills. I was okay for about a year. Enough time that when I started

going off the deep end, I didn't think about taking it out. Within 6 weeks of

removing it, I felt so much better.

Pregnancy was the same way. I was so depressed all the way through, even

though I'd tried for years to get pregnant. And then I had post-partem

psychosis. I never had any more kids, though I've wanted to. (my dh came with

3 kids, so at least I get his)

I have endometriosis, so I will eventually have to go back on something. I " m

going to try to wait until next summer. This winter might work if I need to. I

have bipolar too, so spring and fall are bad for me.

Laurie

Boothe <cricketdo@...> wrote:

Yes, I think everyone has quick thoughts and

such...like the others have mentioned. But, if it is

an OCD thing...it is a bit more intense--like, I

start crying, and have to shake my head telling myself

not to do it. And, then it puts me in a funk for the

rest of the day. And, like you, the intensity

correlates to my OCD cycle.

Hey, just curious---besides personal life, my OCD gets

out of control in relation to my hormones. Does that

happen to anyone else? My doc had mentioned putting

me on something during part of my cycle...'cos my OCD

gets really flaring. But, I don't like the

meds...and, I think it's just " me " . Plus, my house

gets really clean and organized during that time! LOL

(although, my hubby gets mad because I clear out lots

of stuff and pile it all in the garage). And, I get

WAY ahead with my workload at my job.

--- wallflower wrote:

> I have the driving off the road thing too! IT

> doesn't happen unless my OCD is really bad. But

> scary when it does! I was driving up to Minnesota

> (from Nebraska) by myself when I was having a

> particularly bad flare up and had to pull into a gas

> station several times.

>

> Laurie

>

> Boothe wrote:

> So, with harming myself....it happens when I am

> driving. If I am on an overpass/bridge...I think of

> driving off of it. I would never do it, but it is a

> fleeting thought everytime I am on one...or a curve

> that has a steep edge. And, only when I am alone,

> never with my daughters in my car. I don't have a

> fear of hurting others. I don't know if DD has

> that....haven't asked her. I do know she tells me

> she

> wishes she was dead....which upsets me.

>

>

>

>

> --- wallflower wrote:

>

> > No, 9 is not too young to be diagnosed. I have

> OCD,

> > and was pretty bad at age 9.

> >

> > Don't feel bad about missing it in your daughter.

> > I didn't realize how bad hers was until she was

> > almost 12. (a year ago).

> >

> > She and I both have fears that we may harm

> > ourselves or others, and therefore avoid " scary "

> > things. My daughter's fears are of knives. Mine

> > (don't laugh!) are of coffee cups.

> >

> > Last year, my daughter reported that she'd been

> > having fears of hurting herself since she was 7!

> > All I could see on the outside was her little

> > quirks. Until last year, she was just diagnosed

> > with ADHD.

> >

> > My daughter went through a bunch of psych testing

> > to get diagnosed with ADHD, but her OCD was

> > diagnosed based on symptoms.

> >

> > Sorry you have to be here, but nice to meet you!

> >

> > Laurie

> >

> > poetry4me75@... wrote:

> > Hi. I am Lori from Indiana, USA. I have a 9 year

> > old daughter with (I am

> > pretty sure) OCD. Her initial eval is today after

> > school. She has been having

> > trouble at school for quite some time and it took

> me

> > a couple years to

> > recognize the OCD issues. I don't know why, I have

> > OCD, too. It is mild. I took

> > medications awhile but I have bad reactions to all

> > SSRI's so I deal with my

> > problems without meds. I have also dealt with

> > depression, but no longer suffer from

> > that. I have learned how to live with my OCD and

> it

> > is just part of who I

> > am. It is a daily struggle I am used to I guess.

> >

> > My daughter, however, seems to have it worse. I

> > don't know if 9 is young to

> > be diagnosed with it or not. I am not even sure

> that

> > will be her diagnosis

> > but if it is not OCD I do not know what it is. She

> > has episodes at school where

> > she loses control and " shuts down " and these

> > problems have prompted many a

> > meeting and phone call with the

> > principal/teacher/counselor, etc. I guess I

> > thought she would grow out of it and I somehow

> > ignored some obvious signs, like

> > her compulsive cleaning, changing clothes several

> > times a day, preoccupation

> > with being clean and flossing her teeth (she is

> not

> > a hand washer) and her

> > clothes cannot have ANY spots on them. The part in

> > her hair has to be

> > perfectly straight. How she organizes and if I try

> > to help I can never " do it right " .

> > At school is a whole other set of ideals for her.

> > Her handwriting is very

> > neat and precise, has to be perfect or she just

> > starts over with a NEW piece of

> > paper (erasing is not acceptable, makes it bad).

> She

> > will do a problem over

> > and over trying to get it perfect, we go through

> > tons of paper. We just

> > labeled her a perfectionist for the longest time

> > while I tried to get her to be

> > reasonable and accept less than perfect as OK. Her

> > standards are rather

> > unrealistic and are what prompts the episodes at

> > school. UGH I should have seen it

> > long ago. The good thing is, I know how her mind

> > thinks since I have it, too,

> > and hopefully we can get through this together. I

> > will let you know what the

> > Dr says. What can I expect? Will there be more

> than

> > one appointment required

> > to make a diagnosis and formulate a treatment

> plan?

> > Well, nice to " meet " you

> > all.

> >

> > ~~Lori

> >

> > Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak

> > kindly. Leave the rest to

> > God.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

My OCD is pretty hormone sensetive. It does get a bit worse when I'm PMSing.

Last month was worse. And if something bad is going on in my life as well as

PMS, then I can have problems.

The worst thing for me, though, is birth control pills and pregnancy. After

few months on BCPs I get so deprssed and my intrusive thoughts increase

dramatically. Last time, I used the Nuva Ring, because it has less hormones

than the pills. I was okay for about a year. Enough time that when I started

going off the deep end, I didn't think about taking it out. Within 6 weeks of

removing it, I felt so much better.

Pregnancy was the same way. I was so depressed all the way through, even

though I'd tried for years to get pregnant. And then I had post-partem

psychosis. I never had any more kids, though I've wanted to. (my dh came with

3 kids, so at least I get his)

I have endometriosis, so I will eventually have to go back on something. I " m

going to try to wait until next summer. This winter might work if I need to. I

have bipolar too, so spring and fall are bad for me.

Laurie

Boothe <cricketdo@...> wrote:

Yes, I think everyone has quick thoughts and

such...like the others have mentioned. But, if it is

an OCD thing...it is a bit more intense--like, I

start crying, and have to shake my head telling myself

not to do it. And, then it puts me in a funk for the

rest of the day. And, like you, the intensity

correlates to my OCD cycle.

Hey, just curious---besides personal life, my OCD gets

out of control in relation to my hormones. Does that

happen to anyone else? My doc had mentioned putting

me on something during part of my cycle...'cos my OCD

gets really flaring. But, I don't like the

meds...and, I think it's just " me " . Plus, my house

gets really clean and organized during that time! LOL

(although, my hubby gets mad because I clear out lots

of stuff and pile it all in the garage). And, I get

WAY ahead with my workload at my job.

--- wallflower wrote:

> I have the driving off the road thing too! IT

> doesn't happen unless my OCD is really bad. But

> scary when it does! I was driving up to Minnesota

> (from Nebraska) by myself when I was having a

> particularly bad flare up and had to pull into a gas

> station several times.

>

> Laurie

>

> Boothe wrote:

> So, with harming myself....it happens when I am

> driving. If I am on an overpass/bridge...I think of

> driving off of it. I would never do it, but it is a

> fleeting thought everytime I am on one...or a curve

> that has a steep edge. And, only when I am alone,

> never with my daughters in my car. I don't have a

> fear of hurting others. I don't know if DD has

> that....haven't asked her. I do know she tells me

> she

> wishes she was dead....which upsets me.

>

>

>

>

> --- wallflower wrote:

>

> > No, 9 is not too young to be diagnosed. I have

> OCD,

> > and was pretty bad at age 9.

> >

> > Don't feel bad about missing it in your daughter.

> > I didn't realize how bad hers was until she was

> > almost 12. (a year ago).

> >

> > She and I both have fears that we may harm

> > ourselves or others, and therefore avoid " scary "

> > things. My daughter's fears are of knives. Mine

> > (don't laugh!) are of coffee cups.

> >

> > Last year, my daughter reported that she'd been

> > having fears of hurting herself since she was 7!

> > All I could see on the outside was her little

> > quirks. Until last year, she was just diagnosed

> > with ADHD.

> >

> > My daughter went through a bunch of psych testing

> > to get diagnosed with ADHD, but her OCD was

> > diagnosed based on symptoms.

> >

> > Sorry you have to be here, but nice to meet you!

> >

> > Laurie

> >

> > poetry4me75@... wrote:

> > Hi. I am Lori from Indiana, USA. I have a 9 year

> > old daughter with (I am

> > pretty sure) OCD. Her initial eval is today after

> > school. She has been having

> > trouble at school for quite some time and it took

> me

> > a couple years to

> > recognize the OCD issues. I don't know why, I have

> > OCD, too. It is mild. I took

> > medications awhile but I have bad reactions to all

> > SSRI's so I deal with my

> > problems without meds. I have also dealt with

> > depression, but no longer suffer from

> > that. I have learned how to live with my OCD and

> it

> > is just part of who I

> > am. It is a daily struggle I am used to I guess.

> >

> > My daughter, however, seems to have it worse. I

> > don't know if 9 is young to

> > be diagnosed with it or not. I am not even sure

> that

> > will be her diagnosis

> > but if it is not OCD I do not know what it is. She

> > has episodes at school where

> > she loses control and " shuts down " and these

> > problems have prompted many a

> > meeting and phone call with the

> > principal/teacher/counselor, etc. I guess I

> > thought she would grow out of it and I somehow

> > ignored some obvious signs, like

> > her compulsive cleaning, changing clothes several

> > times a day, preoccupation

> > with being clean and flossing her teeth (she is

> not

> > a hand washer) and her

> > clothes cannot have ANY spots on them. The part in

> > her hair has to be

> > perfectly straight. How she organizes and if I try

> > to help I can never " do it right " .

> > At school is a whole other set of ideals for her.

> > Her handwriting is very

> > neat and precise, has to be perfect or she just

> > starts over with a NEW piece of

> > paper (erasing is not acceptable, makes it bad).

> She

> > will do a problem over

> > and over trying to get it perfect, we go through

> > tons of paper. We just

> > labeled her a perfectionist for the longest time

> > while I tried to get her to be

> > reasonable and accept less than perfect as OK. Her

> > standards are rather

> > unrealistic and are what prompts the episodes at

> > school. UGH I should have seen it

> > long ago. The good thing is, I know how her mind

> > thinks since I have it, too,

> > and hopefully we can get through this together. I

> > will let you know what the

> > Dr says. What can I expect? Will there be more

> than

> > one appointment required

> > to make a diagnosis and formulate a treatment

> plan?

> > Well, nice to " meet " you

> > all.

> >

> > ~~Lori

> >

> > Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak

> > kindly. Leave the rest to

> > God.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ************************************** See what's

> > new at http://www.aol.com

> >

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