Re: ESP Soaps

October 23, 2008

I have had the same experiance too. Got the ESP soap maybe a week and a half ago. I was already getting rid of it in the environment before all this stuff came out of my skin. But regardless of what this stuff is they are leaving in our skin or maybe it is junk we all ready had and it is part of what is drawing them to us, better to get it all out of our systems. With Trisha's products. Who knows, if it is some kind of stuff they were already drawn to getting it out of us may prevent future problems with crawlies.

J.

From: Pamela <pamelab@...>Subject: ESP Soapsbird mites Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 12:20 PM

Thanks, Z, for sharing your stories. I appreciate your words of encouragement.

If I am not mistaken, it sounds like you got rid of the biting and crawling BEFORE all of the whiskers, pearls and other things were coming out of your skin with the soaps.

Is that right? You were able to get your environment under control while the junk was still in your skin?

On another note, how long did the junk keep coming out of your skin before it stopped?

I think it has been a good six weeks for me so far, but I am not too sure, with the Brain Fog!

Much love,

P~

From: bird mites [mailto: bird mites ] On Behalf Of zmooksSent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:53 PMbird mitesSubject: Re: Update and questions for Jeff, Z, Frito

PamelaI must stress that when I got the order of esp products in the mail we were having such success with the heating that I KNOW my environment was free of the 'things'. I still had a few of them comming out of my skin, so for me it was a couple of days before christmas that I got the products and by christmas day they were gone.....I would be so interested to see if others had that sort of quick response if they used the esp away from their infested environments.I have also had an experience of picking up something again from sleeping on an old couch at my nightshift job (I got this job after the epidmenic to pay for the debt) .... why this possibly could have been in some random couch months after getting rid of our infestation, I just dont know.....but I was able to get rid of that in 2 days as well....I soaked all my

clothing in water like Rita has suggested, and used the esp and I didnt need to treat my home environment at all....that was months ago now, and I have simply avoided the couch at work like the plague....this 'thing' is so strange....So Pamela, that was my experience, It sounds like you are getting better....if I were you I would just keep doing exactly what you are doing now and wait it out....If you are seeing a few days per week of freedom from this, then this should all be over in a month for you...Having periods of time where you feel normal is so encouraging! !!!!!When I reached that point it was all down hill for the 'mites' from there....faster than I even dreamed was possible.... I had my life backz

October 23, 2008

Who knows, if it is some kind of stuff they were already drawn to getting it out of us may prevent future problems with crawlies.

YES, YES, YES!!!!!!! There is absolutely a reason why these bird and rat mites are displaying such widespread zoonosis.

From: jeannine allaire <ratgodess@...>bird mites Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 6:13:22 PMSubject: Re: ESP Soaps

I have had the same experiance too. Got the ESP soap maybe a week and a half ago. I was already getting rid of it in the environment before all this stuff came out of my skin. But regardless of what this stuff is they are leaving in our skin or maybe it is junk we all ready had and it is part of what is drawing them to us, better to get it all out of our systems. With Trisha's products. Who knows, if it is some kind of stuff they were already drawn to getting it out of us may prevent future problems with crawlies.

J.

From: Pamela <pamelab@...>Subject: ESP Soapsbird mitesDate: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 12:20 PM

Thanks, Z, for sharing your stories. I appreciate your words of encouragement.

If I am not mistaken, it sounds like you got rid of the biting and crawling BEFORE all of the whiskers, pearls and other things were coming out of your skin with the soaps.

Is that right? You were able to get your environment under control while the junk was still in your skin?

On another note, how long did the junk keep coming out of your skin before it stopped? I think it has been a good six weeks for me so far, but I am not too sure, with the Brain Fog! Much love, P~

From: bird mites [mailto: bird mites ] On Behalf Of zmooksSent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:53 PMbird mitesSubject: Re: Update and questions for Jeff, Z, Frito

PamelaI must stress that when I got the order of esp products in the mail we were having such success with the heating that I KNOW my environment was free of the 'things'. I still had a few of them comming out of my skin, so for me it was a couple of days before christmas that I got the products and by christmas day they were gone.....I would be so interested to see if others had that sort of quick response if they used the esp away from their infested environments.I have also had an experience of picking up something again from sleeping on an old couch at my nightshift job (I got this job after the epidmenic to pay for the debt) .... why this possibly could have been in some random couch months after getting rid of our infestation, I just dont know.....but I was able to get rid of that in 2 days as well....I soaked all my

clothing in water like Rita has suggested, and used the esp and I didnt need to treat my home environment at all....that was months ago now, and I have simply avoided the couch at work like the plague....this 'thing' is so strange....So Pamela, that was my experience, It sounds like you are getting better....if I were you I would just keep doing exactly what you are doing now and wait it out....If you are seeing a few days per week of freedom from this, then this should all be over in a month for you...Having periods of time where you feel normal is so encouraging! !!!!!When I reached that point it was all down hill for the 'mites' from there....faster than I even dreamed was possible.... I had my life backz

October 23, 2008

Pamela

Yes you are right, I got rid of the mites long before the 'stuff'

stopped exiting my pores with the esp. In fact I used her products for

6 months until it slowed, then by about 8 months it was over....

So the protocol of dr. Kolbs which says you cant stop using the esp for

6-12 months was pretty right on in my case....

so do not worry if stuff is still coming out rapidly, as you will most

likely be like me and get rid of the mites first, then just like

Frito,and Rat Goddess (I like that name its cute) mentioned there is a

reason for our attractiveness to this 'thing'...so once the mites are

gone, I think there still is a great need to continue working on

removing this from our skin, and cleaning ourselves up internally....

Its a lifestyle change I think.

By the way who is the poster that was using Trishas environmental spray?

I am interested to hear about how thats going....

z

October 23, 2008

Z, I think it was Bob.J.From: zmooks <zuleikahwalker@...>Subject: Re: ESP Soapsbird mites Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 4:37 PM

Pamela

Yes you are right, I got rid of the mites long before the 'stuff'

stopped exiting my pores with the esp. In fact I used her products for

6 months until it slowed, then by about 8 months it was over....

So the protocol of dr. Kolbs which says you cant stop using the esp for

6-12 months was pretty right on in my case....

so do not worry if stuff is still coming out rapidly, as you will most

likely be like me and get rid of the mites first, then just like

Frito,and Rat Goddess (I like that name its cute) mentioned there is a

reason for our attractiveness to this 'thing'...so once the mites are

gone, I think there still is a great need to continue working on

removing this from our skin, and cleaning ourselves up internally.. ..

Its a lifestyle change I think.

By the way who is the poster that was using Trishas environmental spray?

I am interested to hear about how thats going....

z

October 23, 2008

Twas me. I sprayed for the first time the whole house two days ago.

It is strong and you only need a light mist or it will leave a film

like the bleach and epsom salt combo. The peppermint oil seems to

dominate in it, smells a lot better than pesticide and it's very

refreshing. I left and let it dry several hours then aired the house

out for several more. I can't say anything on how it's going but

when I walked in the house to open it up, the ones on my face

immediately became active and very unhappy. I couldn't feel any

hitting me from the environment but the bath purging I'm doing is

also stirring up activity on me so I can't really tell. That's one of

the hardest things for me to figure out - where I'm being hit from.

It seems a lot stronger than any of the other natural products I've

tried. I hope it works! The house still smells great.

I am also a believer that we need to get these things out of us

alive. The people who eventually kill them in their skin often seem

to go on to more skin problems. I'm working on a new protocol of

short spice/herb/salt baths and ESP products that seems to be pulling

them out of me. I've been trying it 10 days and I THINK I'm much

better. I have a draft if anyone wants to look or comment on it. I'd

really like to find someone willing to try the bath routine with me

to see if it helps them too. Send me an email and I'll attach it back.

bob

> From: zmooks <zuleikahwalker@...>

> Subject: Re: ESP Soaps

> bird mites

> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 4:37 PM

>

> Pamela

>

> Yes you are right, I got rid of the mites long before the 'stuff'

>

> stopped exiting my pores with the esp. In fact I used her products

for

>

> 6 months until it slowed, then by about 8 months it was over....

>

> So the protocol of dr. Kolbs which says you cant stop using the esp

for

>

> 6-12 months was pretty right on in my case....

>

> so do not worry if stuff is still coming out rapidly, as you will

most

>

> likely be like me and get rid of the mites first, then just like

>

> Frito,and Rat Goddess (I like that name its cute) mentioned there

is a

>

> reason for our attractiveness to this 'thing'...so once the mites

are

>

> gone, I think there still is a great need to continue working on

>

> removing this from our skin, and cleaning ourselves up

internally.. ..

>

> Its a lifestyle change I think.

>

> By the way who is the poster that was using Trishas environmental

spray?

>

> I am interested to hear about how thats going....

>

> z

>

October 23, 2008

Jeannine,

Did you get just the soap, or did you get the other products as well?

I would like to know what of her products everyone is using, because

I am going to be ordering some soon.

Thanks,

Save

>

> From: Pamela <pamelab@...>

> Subject: ESP Soaps

> bird mites

> Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 12:20 PM

>

> Thanks, Z, for sharing your stories. I appreciate your words of

encouragement.

>

> If I am not mistaken, it sounds like you got rid of the biting and

crawling BEFORE all of the whiskers, pearls and other things were

coming out of your skin with the soaps.

> Is that right? You were able to get your environment under control

while the junk was still in your skin?

>

> On another note, how long did the junk keep coming out of your skin

before it stopped?

> I think it has been a good six weeks for me so far, but I am not too

sure, with the Brain Fog!

>

> Much love,

> P~

>

> From: bird mites [mailto: bird mites@

groups. com ] On Behalf Of zmooks

> Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:53 PM

> bird mites

> Subject: Re: Update and questions for Jeff, Z, Frito

>

> Pamela

> I must stress that when I got the order of esp products in the mail

> we were having such success with the heating that I KNOW my

> environment was free of the 'things'. I still had a few of them

> comming out of my skin, so for me it was a couple of days before

> christmas that I got the products and by christmas day they were

> gone.....

> I would be so interested to see if others had that sort of quick

> response if they used the esp away from their infested environments.

>

> I have also had an experience of picking up something again from

> sleeping on an old couch at my nightshift job (I got this job after

> the epidmenic to pay for the debt) .... why this possibly could have

> been in some random couch months after getting rid of our

> infestation, I just dont know.....but I was able to get rid of that

> in 2 days as well....I soaked all my clothing in water like Rita has

> suggested, and used the esp and I didnt need to treat my home

> environment at all....that was months ago now, and I have simply

> avoided the couch at work like the plague....this 'thing' is so

> strange....

>

> So Pamela, that was my experience, It sounds like you are getting

> better....if I were you I would just keep doing exactly what you are

> doing now and wait it out....If you are seeing a few days per week of

> freedom from this, then this should all be over in a month for you...

> Having periods of time where you feel normal is so encouraging! !!!!!

> When I reached that point it was all down hill for the 'mites' from

> there....faster than I even dreamed was possible.... I had my life back

>

> z

>

October 23, 2008

HMMM....with you? hOW BIG'S UR TUB? > > From: zmooks zuleikahwalker@> > Subject: Re: ESP Soaps> > bird mites > > Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 4:37 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pamela> > > > > > > > Yes you are right, I got rid of the mites long before the 'stuff' > > > > stopped exiting my pores with the esp. In fact I used her products > for > > > > 6 months until it slowed, then by about 8 months it was over....> > > > So the protocol of dr. Kolbs which says you cant stop using the esp > for > > > > 6-12 months was pretty right on in my case....> > > > so do not worry if stuff is still coming out rapidly, as you will > most > > > > likely be like me and get rid of the mites first, then just like > > > > Frito,and Rat Goddess (I like that name its cute) mentioned there > is a > > > > reason for our attractiveness to this 'thing'...so once the mites > are > > > > gone, I think there still is a great need to continue working on > > > > removing this from our skin, and cleaning ourselves up > internally.. ..> > > > Its a lifestyle change I think.> > > > > > > > By the way who is the poster that was using Trishas environmental > spray?> > > > I am interested to hear about how thats going....> > > > > > > > z> >>

October 23, 2008

Hi I bought the ESP Botanical kit the Zooks recommended. I have not

tried it yet .

Please keep us posted on the progress you make

And please mail the report you kept ,

Thanks, Bill

itsjustmedammitgrl wrote:

> HMMM....with you? hOW BIG'S UR TUB? > > From: zmooks zuleikahwalker@ > > Subject: Re: ESP

Soaps > > bird mites > > Date: Thursday, October 23,

2008, 4:37 PM > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Pamela > > > > > > > > Yes you are right, I got rid

of the mites long before the 'stuff' > > > > stopped exiting my pores with the

esp. In fact I used her products > for > > > > 6 months until it slowed, then by

about 8 months it was over.... > > > > So the protocol of dr. Kolbs which says

you cant stop using the esp > for > > > > 6-12 months was pretty right on in my

case.... > > > > so do not worry if stuff is still coming out rapidly, as you

will > most > > > > likely be like me and get rid of the mites first, then just

like > > > > Frito,and Rat Goddess (I like that name its cute) mentioned there >

is a > > > > reason for our attractiveness to this 'thing'...so once the mites >

are > > > > gone, I think there still is a great need to continue working on > >

> > removing this from our skin, and cleaning ourselves up > internally.. .. > >

> > Its a lifestyle change I think. > > > > > > > > By the way who is the poster

that

was using Trishas environmental > spray? > > > > I am interested to hear about

how thats going.... > > > > > > > > z > > >

>

October 23, 2008

I will do it. You can e-mail me at ratgodess@....J.From: <bobbyboyd99@...>Subject: Re: ESP Soapsbird mites Date: Thursday, October 23, 2008, 6:52 PM