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Hi Kista,

Welcome to our list. It's about time that you got brave enough to post.

I'm so glad that you did. :-)

Love, Liz

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Original post from:Kista Stamper

Hi, my name is Kista. I've been doing LL for almost a year now. It has

done great

things for my body and spirit. My sister, Liz got me started. She is

great. I know you

all think so to. I can see that I'm going to enjoy these Lists. Hope

everyone has a great day.

Love, Kista

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[Guest guest]

Hi Amethyst8, and welcome. With all the ups and downs your daughter is

suffering, I wonder if a change in medication (increase dose, or change

SSRI) may be warranted. Also, she may need to return to therapy for booster

sessions during the worsening times. Were you happy with the quality of

therapy she received? Another thought is, if she's finding bossing OCD too

hard all the time, she may be depressed. Several on the list have posted

about the need to adequately treat depression before tackling compulsions.

My daughter is quite a bit younger than yours, but I have off and on used

prizes or offered to take her somewhere special to motivate her to do E & RP.

This hasn't seemed to interfere with the process so I file it under

" whatever works " and bribe away. :-) Trying to build some fun or pleasure

into exposures helps too: For ex, for a child with cleanliness

compulsions, you can spread icing on a cake, find a craft kit with sticky

glue or paints, etc.

There are some really good lay exposure planners on this list, along with

our list professionals, if you'd like some specific advice to help your

daughter tackle certain compulsions.

Kathy R in Indiana

----- Original Message -----

From: <amethyst819422@...>

> Hi group! I'm new here and have a 14 year old daughter who suffers

> from OCD. She's been on Zoloft for 1 1/2 years and has had cognitive

> behavior therapy. She has lots of ups and downs and it's so hard

> dealing with the down times . She tells me that it's too hard to

> fight the OCD and it's draining for our whole family. I tell her that

> the more she fights the compulsions the easier it will be in the

> future when new compulsions come up. But I think she gets so

> discouraged . Well, if any of you have any advice or can think of any

> ways for me to keep her motivated please let me know.I try to reward

> her when I see that she's working hard to fight back the OCD but

> sometimes she tells me that she can't fight back unless I get her

> things that she wants.

[Guest guest]

HI Amethyst:

Welcome to this group. I also have a 14 year old, a son, with OCD.

Does your daughter continue to get CBT? Sometimes our kids need a tune up.

Also they have to learn that bossing back OCD is a way of life and in

general they will pay dearly for giving in to OCD. SOmetimes of course,

things get tough and symptoms will break through, but they learn that they

will get a bit better again soon.

You mention a tricky problem that can crop up with our kids once they are

treated. THey are smart and learn how to get what they want from those

around them by using their dx of OCD. My son has certainly done this and

told his therapist what suckers we are!

When your daughter is able to boss back just for the reward of the

encouragement, recognition and high praise she gets from her family for

doing so, you know that the full lesson of doing CBT has been learned. I

suggest you bring up this situation with her CBT therapist and work

together on a plan to turn this around. Good luck, take care, aloha, Kathy

(h)

kathyh@...

At 05:05 AM 03/20/2001 +0000, you wrote:

>Hi group! I'm new here and have a 14 year old daughter who suffers

>from OCD. She's been on Zoloft for 1 1/2 years and has had cognitive

>behavior therapy. She has lots of ups and downs and it's so hard

>dealing with the down times . She tells me that it's too hard to

>fight the OCD and it's draining for our whole family. I tell her that

>the more she fights the compulsions the easier it will be in the

>future when new compulsions come up. But I think she gets so

>discouraged . Well, if any of you have any advice or can think of any

>ways for me to keep her motivated please let me know.I try to reward

>her when I see that she's working hard to fight back the OCD but

>sometimes she tells me that she can't fight back unless I get her

>things that she wants.

[Guest guest]

Dear Jeanne,

Try Calozon from Skip Witney at

208-263-9343.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

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From: undem3396@...

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oxyplus

Subject: New to the group

Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 19:33:09 EDT

Hi,

I am new to the group. My major health concern is I just don't feel

healthy.

I also have chronic diarrhea. I would like so much to get my bowels

normalized but even more I would like to feel healthy and energized. I am

looking forward to the posts and getting advice.

Jeanne

[Guest guest]

Dear Jeanne,

Try Calozon from Skip Witney at

208-263-9343.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

---------------------------------------------------------------

From: undem3396@...

Reply-oxyplus

oxyplus

Subject: New to the group

Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 19:33:09 EDT

Hi,

I am new to the group. My major health concern is I just don't feel

healthy.

I also have chronic diarrhea. I would like so much to get my bowels

normalized but even more I would like to feel healthy and energized. I am

looking forward to the posts and getting advice.

Jeanne

[Guest guest]

Dear Jeanne,

Try Calozon from Skip Witney at

208-263-9343.

Best of Health!

Dr. Saul Pressman, DCh, LTOH

---------------------------------------------------------------

From: undem3396@...

Reply-oxyplus

oxyplus

Subject: New to the group

Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 19:33:09 EDT

Hi,

I am new to the group. My major health concern is I just don't feel

healthy.

I also have chronic diarrhea. I would like so much to get my bowels

normalized but even more I would like to feel healthy and energized. I am

looking forward to the posts and getting advice.

Jeanne

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

Jeanne @ <undem3396@...> Wrote:

> Hi,

> I am new to the group. My major health concern is I just don't feel

healthy.

> I also have chronic diarrhea. I would like so much to get my bowels

> normalized but even more I would like to feel healthy and energized. I am

> looking forward to the posts and getting advice.

>

> Jeanne

>

> Hi Jeanne,

Have you tried a parasite cleanse? Heard parasites can cause chronic

diarrhea and certainly drain you energy! Just a thought.

Gail

>

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

Jeanne @ <undem3396@...> Wrote:

> Hi,

> I am new to the group. My major health concern is I just don't feel

healthy.

> I also have chronic diarrhea. I would like so much to get my bowels

> normalized but even more I would like to feel healthy and energized. I am

> looking forward to the posts and getting advice.

>

> Jeanne

>

> Hi Jeanne,

Have you tried a parasite cleanse? Heard parasites can cause chronic

diarrhea and certainly drain you energy! Just a thought.

Gail

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Xiomi, and welcome. I look foward to getting to know you too. I live in Texas, USA. With my hubby of near 25 years and two girls, Amber and April with asthma and allergies and April also has reflux. I am the helathy one, just lives at the drug store for all the meds they take.LOL> Welocme. Marsha

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Welcome Xiomara

Chelle

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Welcome Xiomi!

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Do feel free to write whenever you want to!

Ling

New to the group

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I'm feeling a bit depressed today, but wanted to say hello

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I'm a bit depressed due to the diagnosis of the Urologist yesterday.

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It's so great how you support eachother.

It's sooo great to be part of your group!

Hugs,

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Thanks for the warm welcome!!!

Looking forward to enjoy your sense of humor too.

Hugs,

Xiomi

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gripe, moan, cry, laugh, or whatever....we are here for you!

Love,

Barb

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> It's so great how you support eachother.

>

> It's sooo great to be part of your group!

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> I'm a bit depressed due to the diagnosis of the Urologist

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Hi and Welcome to the group!

I'm Terri (list Mom1) I live in Baldwinsville near Colleen (list Mom 2)

My site isn't back up and running yet, but it's att

http://www.thistlemeadowsoaps.com I've been doing HP for over a year...

I'm currently getting ready for a few fall shows.... nothing major...

I'm taking the slow lane and really going to start pushing wholesale

within the next month or so. Beside soap I make bath salts, lotion bars,

lip balms, lotion and body sprays, salves and I'm working up a kids line

of products too.

Terri

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Welcome to the list ! We are a very friendly group here, so please feel

free to post about anything anytime.

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Country Meadow Creations

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Welcome , you have just stumbled upon the nicest group of people you could

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Hi & Lesley,

I live south of Rochester. I`ve been making soap for about a year and sell

some in acouple of small shops in my town.

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new to the group

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>

> Good afternoon,

> I just joined CNY Soapmakers and wanted to introduce myself. I'm

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> friend, Lesley Bidwell. (www.chapinhouse.com)

> We've been making soap for a couple years and are still very enthusiastic

> about it. - We do a few craft fairs a year, but mostly sell in some local

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[Guest guest]

Stacey, welcome to the group! I joined this group after my then 11

y/o son was diagnosed last year (he's 12 now). Not having a local

support group near, this group has been my greatest support. I'm

sure you'll find it very informative too.

I wish I had an answer for your son's behavior about repeating words,

but I'm not sure on that one regarding its relationship to OCD. It

might depend on why he's doing it - whether it's while searching for

the next word or deliberately repeating or something else(?). We

have some great and experienced moderators in this group and I'm sure

one of them can help you. Also Dr. Chansky is an advisor too! Was

the doctor you mentioned your family physician?

Is your 5 y/o in kindergarten? How's school going? Is there anyone

in your area familiar with treating OCD? Unluckily, there's no one

near enough to us where I can take my son so we're sort of on our

own. And, as in most things when kids are older, my sons would

listen to someone else better than they do me! I actually wish

were younger, like your son, in that I think he's go along

with " treatment " more easily and play along with bossing OCD back!

Keep us updated! And again, welcome!

- single mom to (12) with OCD and dysgraphia; (12) with

separation anxiety; Randall (16) -

> Hi everyone - I'm new to the group - I have a 5 year old who was

just

> diagnosed with OCD. We haven't decided what exactly to do about it

> but on his Dr.'s recommendation I'm reading " Freeing your child

from

> OCD " by Dr. Chansky to try to get an understanding about this

> condition so I can make an informed treatment decision on his

behalf.

> She called it the " OCD Bible. " I have just started it and I'm

already

> finding alot of it very familiar. I have a general question for

> anyone out there. My son has developed quite a stutter - not like

I

> would typically think of a stutter where just the first syllable is

> repeated like he is having deficulty getting the word out, but

rather

> he repeats entire words and phrases while he seems to be searching

> for the next word. Could OCD have something to do with this and

can

> treating the OCD help clear this up?

>

> -Stacey

[Guest guest]

Dear Stacey -

I too am new to this group, though we have been dealing with OCD for

8 years here. My son has had OCD since he was a toddler.

The " stuttering " that you are referring to is what we call " the

repeater " in our home, and is one of 's OCD behaviors. And,

he'll tell you that it's his OCD that is doing that. Take care.

in Rhode Island

[Guest guest]

Hi Stacey, Welcome to our group! You will find a wealth of knowledge and

support here. I am glad to see that you have found Dr. Chansky's book already.

She is a wonderful resource to have access to. If you have questions for her

they can be addressed through this list, just mark them " Ask Dr. Chansky " , and

she will reply to you. To address you questions about your son repeating

words....my son, who has AD/HD and OCD does the same thing. I do not know that

anyone has ever been able to tell me whether or not this is an OCD symptom.

Tommy tells me that his brain gets jumbled up and he cannot find the words he

needs to use. I suppose in Tommy's case it could be a combination of wandering

attention and unwanted or sticky brain thoughts that have nothing to do with the

conversation he is having. We try to be patient with him and not rush him when

he is experiencing these symptoms and eventually the words come. I do notice

that this symptom is more pronounced when he needs a medication adjustment.

in Southeastern PA

dunagins@... wrote: Hi everyone - I'm new to the group - I have a 5

year old who was just

diagnosed with OCD. We haven't decided what exactly to do about it

but on his Dr.'s recommendation I'm reading " Freeing your child from

OCD " by Dr. Chansky to try to get an understanding about this

condition so I can make an informed treatment decision on his behalf.

She called it the " OCD Bible. " I have just started it and I'm already

finding alot of it very familiar. I have a general question for

anyone out there. My son has developed quite a stutter - not like I

would typically think of a stutter where just the first syllable is

repeated like he is having deficulty getting the word out, but rather

he repeats entire words and phrases while he seems to be searching

for the next word. Could OCD have something to do with this and can

treating the OCD help clear this up?

-Stacey

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[Guest guest]

Hi Stacey:

Welcome to the group. Dr. Chansky's book is wonderful and I wish

it was written when I first started learning about OCD in 1997. It

is wonderful to see the explosion of helpful books about OCD and

the increased understanding of this difficult disorder.

OCD symptoms can come up in any area. In fact we learned to expect

a problem event to be based in OCD first and respond accordingly.

Very few times was this approach proven wrong. If your son gets

anxious while this " stuttering " is happening, it is likely to be

connected to his OCD. Another thing you might want to rule out is

that it is a vocal tic. Our son, Steve, had symptoms that looked

tic-like when he was first getting treatment, but they turned out to

be complex compulsions. It is common for kids with OCD to have

transient tic disorders.

Often OCD sufferers are thought to have other problems along with

their OCD. When the OCD is treated, voila! the other problems go

away. OCD is so mysterious in the many ways it can manifest. Dr. Lee

Baer's book, " The Imp of the Mind " is a very interesting one which

describes the less visible OCD symptoms very well.

Good luck, take care, aloha, kathy (h)

kathyh@...

> Hi everyone - I'm new to the group - I have a 5 year old who was

just

> diagnosed with OCD. We haven't decided what exactly to do about it

> but on his Dr.'s recommendation I'm reading " Freeing your child from

> OCD " by Dr. Chansky to try to get an understanding about this

> condition so I can make an informed treatment decision on his

behalf.

> She called it the " OCD Bible. " I have just started it and I'm

already

> finding alot of it very familiar. I have a general question for

> anyone out there. My son has developed quite a stutter - not like I

> would typically think of a stutter where just the first syllable is

> repeated like he is having deficulty getting the word out, but

rather

> he repeats entire words and phrases while he seems to be searching

> for the next word. Could OCD have something to do with this and can

> treating the OCD help clear this up?

>

> -Stacey

[Guest guest]

,<br> I'm going through something pretty

similar. I've had two lateral releases done-both on my

left knee. The most recent was 3 months ago. I'm still

in a huge amount of pain, not from the surgery

though, it's the same pain I had before. I've also been

in PT on and off for about 3 years and that has not

helped me at all with the pain. I've seen 6 doctors so

far and later this month I'm seeing my seventh who

I've heard very good things about so I'm really hoping

that he can do something! Hope you can get some help

from your doctor too!<br><br>Sharon

[Guest guest]

Sometimes the pain is not due to the reason we

supposse to be; I know 2 cases (one of them is mie) in

wich something in the articulation is trying to

compensate the real problem from a lot of time, the real

problem can be properly addressed by the doctor, but the

efects of the compensation can lead to tendinitis, for

example, I guess that lots of times there are tendinitis

remanent which van be very painfull and dificult for teh

patient to be aware where is teh pain coming from; I have

a friend wich several arthorcopys for meniscus, and

with a knee really degenrated, which pain results to

be a tendinitis for this compensarion effect. You

know how the doctor diagnosed this?, very curious,

after a scan with 'contraste, resonancia' Im don't know

the english words, but this is a scan with a liquid

injected in tyou vains, and after 3 hours when the liquid

is supposses to be arrived to the bones, the make

the san MRI (more powerfull than a normal RMI) , and

nothing was adverted, but, this doctor was a good one,

and then tried a sort of diagnosis of some

tendinitis/tendinosis, which sometimes cannot be see in the MRI's , and

injected him with a local analgesic + corticosteroid; this

is not a treatment (it does not repair nothing) but

a diagnostic tool, for if the pain disappears after

the corticosteroid injection, the problem was really

in the tendon and the phisiotherapy can be now

directed to the real problem.<br> I believe that with a

proper diagnostic, maybe the problem could not be fixed,

but can improve a lot.<br> regards.