New to the group

[Guest guest]

The CDC pics of reactions are shocking!

Also, many of your links did not work for me. Especially the first three links??

*scratching head*

Re: New to the group

At 11:29 AM 7/31/2007 -0700, you wrote:

>Two facts!

> In the first year that the polio vaccine was introduced, about 50,000 new

cases occurred among the vaccinated population.

> Only about less than 10% of the world population ever received the small

pox vaccine. It takes a real stretch of the imagination to believe that the

vaccine stopped small pox.

> Joe

Exactly and too many lies about both

http://www.wellwith in1.com/smallpox .htm

http://www.wellwith in1.com/polio. htm

http://www.geocitie s.com/harpub

NO VACCINES are effective - NONE give immunity

All have the potential for side effects - minor and serious.

See my webpages for info on all of those

http://www.wellwith in1.com/vaccine. htm

Sheri

>

>vidamin78 <vidamarinomsn (DOT) com> wrote: Hi

everyone, my name is Vida and I am new to this group. I have

> been married for 1 year, and I have a beautiful 3 month old baby boy

> named Rasheed. Before I gave birth I knew I did not want to

> vaccinate. At the hospital I refused the Hep B vaccine, which was

> so strange to the nurse. Then I didn't worry about it. However, at

> his two month check up, after I argued with the baby's doctor a

> while, he scared me and my husband into vaccinating. We gave him

> the pcv, Hib, rotavirus vaccine, and dtap vaccine. I managed to get

> out of the hep B again and the polio vaccine. Nothing happened, not

> even a slight fever, which is good cause I was really scared.

> However, I now know I made a mistake and I don't want to vaccinate

> any further. Atleast, I don't think I do. I'm unclear on the hib

> and pcv vaccines. If you read literature they seem to be effective

> and necessary and with minimal side effects. I'm also unclear about

> tetanus. Can someone help me through this pls.

>

> I also want to say that being anti-vaccine is very difficult. When

> you say you don't want to vaccinate your child everybody looks at

> you like you're some kind of nut. My brother in law has been

> sending me (and my husband, and convincing him to go against me)

> links on articles written about crazy people like us and how we

> don't believe in vaccination because we never saw devestation from

> the diseases in question. I know, however, that I am seeing

> devastation from diseases like diabetes, arthritis, autism, and

> cancer...just to name a few. He is also sending me links on how

> vaccines cured the entire world of smallpox and polio.

> To take on an anti-vaccine position you definitely have to be strong

> and expect a lot of mean contradiction from everyone.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>http://www.thenewam erican.com

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>

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[Guest guest]

Hey Angie,

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying about the chickenpox. As far as

I understand, you can only get shingles if you have already had cp; no immunity

to shingles for having cp. I never had cp so I cannot get shingles. Kind of

opposite of what you wrote. Do you see what I mean?............Anita

Totten <afaltotten@...> wrote:

>

Chickenpox - seriously no big

deal, and better to actually get it because you get immunity then

against shingles, which is much worse. Hep B - that's for drug users

and prostitutes (and their johns). Tetanus -- pretty rare and not

communicable.

The big killer diseases were things like tuberculosis, typhoid,

scarlet fever... none of which we vaccinate against. And the new

vaccines, for things like pneumoccocal illness are tackling minor

things that were not common for children to get.

My thoughts. -Angie

> My brother in law has been

> sending me (and my husband, and convincing him to go against me)

> links on articles written about crazy people like us and how we

> don't believe in vaccination because we never saw devestation from

> the diseases in question.

[Guest guest]

The 10% vaccination came form a book that I read about 15-20 yrs ago. It also

said that the reason that smallpox largely disappeared from the earth was that

people changed their bedding. That is, most people used to sleep on bags full of

straw. It was found out that the smallpox virus just loved the environment of

straw. So, when people, for the most part, stopped sleeping on straw, the small

pox virus was no longer in the vicinity where it could be transmitted to

people.

Joe

Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: At

12:14 PM 7/31/2007 -0700, you wrote:

>Joe:

>

>That is a very interesting comment: only about 10 percent rec'd smallpox

vaccine. Do you have a link for that, or where did you find it?

>

>I have always found that comment to be misleading, that vaccination

stopped small pox. I rather think it was people waking up to cleaner living

conditions and quarantine.

>

>

MUCH on this website

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Vida,

I highly recommend checking out MotheringDotCommune:

http://www.mothering.com/discussions. The people there aren't generally

" nuts " . There are people from all over the vaccine debate there, from

moderate, selective vaxers to hardcore non-vaxers.

We did the Hib. If you'd like to know why, please email me off-list. If

you'd just like to chat vaxes, you can also email me off-list. I'm

learning too!

~Robyn

vidamin78 wrote:

> Hi everyone, my name is Vida and I am new to this group. I have

> been married for 1 year, and I have a beautiful 3 month old baby boy

> named Rasheed. Before I gave birth I knew I did not want to

> vaccinate. At the hospital I refused the Hep B vaccine, which was

> so strange to the nurse. Then I didn't worry about it. However, at

> his two month check up, after I argued with the baby's doctor a

> while, he scared me and my husband into vaccinating. We gave him

> the pcv, Hib, rotavirus vaccine, and dtap vaccine. I managed to get

> out of the hep B again and the polio vaccine. Nothing happened, not

> even a slight fever, which is good cause I was really scared.

> However, I now know I made a mistake and I don't want to vaccinate

> any further. Atleast, I don't think I do. I'm unclear on the hib

> and pcv vaccines. If you read literature they seem to be effective

> and necessary and with minimal side effects. I'm also unclear about

> tetanus. Can someone help me through this pls.

>

> I also want to say that being anti-vaccine is very difficult. When

> you say you don't want to vaccinate your child everybody looks at

> you like you're some kind of nut. My brother in law has been

> sending me (and my husband, and convincing him to go against me)

> links on articles written about crazy people like us and how we

> don't believe in vaccination because we never saw devestation from

> the diseases in question. I know, however, that I am seeing

> devastation from diseases like diabetes, arthritis, autism, and

> cancer...just to name a few. He is also sending me links on how

> vaccines cured the entire world of smallpox and polio.

> To take on an anti-vaccine position you definitely have to be strong

> and expect a lot of mean contradiction from everyone.

>

>

--

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[Guest guest]

Hi!

My son ,started fevering around 10 years old. He also was diagnosed with

after...he tested neg. for other fever disorders and after we tried

prednisone with one of his episodes and he was almost 100% better within hours

of the medication.

After a few episodes with prednisone he stopped fevering for over a

year...then...he had an episode in AUG 2006 (which we gave him pred.) Then he

didn't fever again till AUG 2007

I don't know if he just normally would be having episodes so far apart or if

it's due to the prednisone.

Hope that helped. Cheri

cmtbi1991 <mletherton@...> wrote: I've

never logged on to a group before, but I am feeling very

confused by my daughters condition. She started getting fevers when

she was 5..which seems to be a little old compared to what I have

read today about your children. She would get a fever about every

four months...get up to about 105+ (if I didn't catch it soon enough,

I don't know how high it would have gotten). She would be sick for

about 2 weeks. The doctors were stumped...she had so many tests run

At Boston Children's Hospital...they had no idea. We moved down to

Gainesville, Fl. and a doctor here..on a lark..gave her prednisone to

see if it would take the fever away..it did, so he said she had

. We have had no tests done.

Since she first started taking prednisone, her episodes come about

every 5 weeks now, but with a lower fever. When I see that her

fevers are going to go high, I ask the doctor for Prednisone, if the

fevers only stay at 101 or lower, I don't give it to her.

The last two times I have given her prednisone, it takes the fever

away for a day, and then the fevers return again.

I am always concerned that is not her condition...the thought

plagues me..could it be something serious and I'm just missing it.

I hate it when she gets these fevers..I feel so bad for her. I also

feel like I am on guard dute for two weeks...make sure the fever

stays managable.

Is there anybody there whose child started the fevers later?

Does this sound familiar to anybody?

Thanks for the help,

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[Guest guest]

Hi

If you live in Gainesville, there is a Dr Skoda- who is

affiliated with Shands at the University of Florida. She assisted

another doc who is now at All Childrens with the diagnosis for my

son... although he was initially diagnosed as after years NIH

isolated a genetic mutation which may be the cause...

Currently he is diagnosed as PFS with unknown etiology as he does

not have .

Dr. Skoda- did advise genetic studies and for us to join the

research study at the National Institute of Health... which we did.

Hope this helps you get a more accurate diagnosis.

Fran

Fran Bulone RN

Mom to ph 8yr CIAS1 mutation 11/05; Dyspraxia 11/06; Dyslexia

12/06

Waxhaw NC

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[Guest guest]

Holly:

Welcome, I'm glad you've found us.? It's wonderful to find a group of parents

and children going through exactly what you are.? This group has been a great

help in our journey with my son's periodic fever. Zachary's symptoms sound a lot

like , but I'm glad his doc is looking into all options since periodic

fevers can overlap on so many levels.

We have noticed my son's episodes more sever during the summer months.? My

suspicion is his increased activity level or heat, but who knows.?

Taryn

Mommy to Evan 4 y.o.

Leana 2 y.o.

[Guest guest]

Hi Holly,

Welcome to the group. You will find a lot of helpful information here.

I just wanted to mention that my son (2-1/2 yrs old) also

experienced the sensitivity to light, but seems okay now. In June it

was so bad that when I took him outside and we were in the sunlight, he

started crying and holding his eyes all the time and just cried to go

back inside. I had to keep sunglasses on him when we went outside for

several weeks. I had taken him to a pediatric eye doctor and his eyes

are perfectly fine. The doctor said he will outgrow the sensitivity to

the brightness. At the end of July this symptom seemed to disappear, we

are very thankful.

My son also has sensitivity every day when I brush his teeth. I have to

use a soft brush and brush very carefully so I don't hit his gums a lot.

I don't see any sores though and he goes for checkups every 6 months, no

cavities or gum issues.

has been taking Cimetidine since last August and it seems to

have helped him tremendously. He only had 3 fevers this year and they

were very mild! Last year, he was fevering every two weeks. Also, he

is now old enough to tell me if his " boo boo " is coming, which is

helpful.

For some reason, many of the children with don't catch the regular

colds that other children do, but actually got his first cold

two weeks ago. I was kind of relieved as this may be a sign that he is

getting over . There has been a cold going around our area with

the coughing and runny nose, well he got it. No fever, but the cough

and runny nose. It went away and my daughter caught it.

Good luck with your son.

Bobbie

[Guest guest]

Great to see your post Holly! The files section has a ton of info....I will

email you my number since i forgot to give it to you last night, This group has

helped me maintain my sanity for the past 5 years! Hopefully you to will have

the same benefit!

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Subject: New to the group

Hello I am looking foward to an expanded knowelege base and hope to

learn more as the disscussions post. I do have one question about

Transocean. Does anyone know if Transocean uses contract medics or

do

they hire within? I currently work offshore in the GOM. If anyone

has

any additional information I would greatly App it. Thanks.....

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the information. I wonder what is going to happen with the

merger. It will be very intersting to say the least.

[Guest guest]

Holly-

Glad you found this site helpful, sorry you need it at all! FYI, there is a

great ID Doctor in Hartford, Ct (Dr. Feder) who is an expert in and has a

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[Guest guest]

>

> Hello I am looking foward to an expanded knowelege base and hope to

> learn more as the disscussions post. I do have one question about

> Transocean. Does anyone know if Transocean uses contract medics or do

> they hire within? I currently work offshore in the GOM. If anyone has

> any additional information I would greatly App it. Thanks.....

>

Rig Medic 6866,

To my understanding, Transocean uses medic from Acadian Integrated

Solutions, based out of Lafayette, Louisiana.

I could be wrong. Cheers,

[Guest guest]

Transocean hires their own medics called RSTTS . the number in Houston is

1-888-748-6334

robert_vahle <robert_vahle@...> wrote:

>

> Hello I am looking foward to an expanded knowelege base and hope to

> learn more as the disscussions post. I do have one question about

> Transocean. Does anyone know if Transocean uses contract medics or do

> they hire within? I currently work offshore in the GOM. If anyone has

> any additional information I would greatly App it. Thanks.....

>

Rig Medic 6866,

To my understanding, Transocean uses medic from Acadian Integrated

Solutions, based out of Lafayette, Louisiana.

I could be wrong. Cheers,

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Hey Rigmedic6866,

I'm currently looking for info on work in the gom,i'm uk based could you

help me out please?

Kind Regards

Walsh

Offshore Medic

Email: walsh5701@...

>From: " robert_vahle " <robert_vahle@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: New to the group

>Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 15:26:23 -0000

>

>

> >

> > Hello I am looking foward to an expanded knowelege base and hope to

> > learn more as the disscussions post. I do have one question about

> > Transocean. Does anyone know if Transocean uses contract medics or do

> > they hire within? I currently work offshore in the GOM. If anyone has

> > any additional information I would greatly App it. Thanks.....

> >

>Rig Medic 6866,

> To my understanding, Transocean uses medic from Acadian Integrated

>Solutions, based out of Lafayette, Louisiana.

> I could be wrong. Cheers,

>

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you, I felt like my life was over. I became angry,depressed, withdrawn, my self esteem was shot, and I hated the world. Ilost my job and my marriage. I started taking the usual medicationslike amantadine, and sinemet etc etc. and started feeling better. Sincethen I have learned to deal with the lonelyness, rejection, and theever changing symptoms of this disease. I have also been looking intoother forms of natural medicine like acupuncture, teas, herbs, andvitamins. I have found something that has helped me alot. This is nosales pitch what so ever, I just wanted to share this with others justlike me. If anyone would like to find out just e-mail me and I'll passalong the information. I'm not seeking any financial gain what so ever.I'm not supporting anyone with ties to this product. I will say thatthe benefits are exremely possitive

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you, I felt like my life was over. I became angry,depressed, withdrawn, my self esteem was shot, and I hated the world. Ilost my job and my marriage. I started taking the usual medicationslike amantadine, and sinemet etc etc. and started feeling better. Sincethen I have learned to deal with the lonelyness, rejection, and theever changing symptoms of this disease. I have also been looking intoother forms of natural medicine like acupuncture, teas, herbs, andvitamins. I have found something that has helped me alot. This is nosales pitch what so ever, I just wanted to share this with others justlike me. If anyone would like to find out just e-mail me and I'll passalong the information. I'm not seeking any financial gain what so ever.I'm not supporting anyone with ties to this product. I will say thatthe benefits are exremely possitive

[Guest guest]

Tara,

So sorry you'll have to go through another surgery. Do they plan to do something

different this time that might bring you some different relief? Wish you lots of

luck in getting through it!

 

[Guest guest]

Joi,

I have 2 lateral releases, I have 2 osteotomy's, I have had one carticle and

I am getting ready to have another lateral release and the second carticle.

So when I am finished I will have had 7 operations. Hopefully that is it.

Tara

In a message dated 7/12/2008 1:54:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

wildwest@... writes:

Welcome Tara. What surgeries have you had done? I've had CP in both knees

for about 30 years.

Joi

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Welcome Tara. What surgeries have you had done? I've had CP in both knees

for about 30 years.

Joi

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[Guest guest]

,

I did not have any success with shots in my knee. I had two different times

one that I got every week for six weeks and one i got every week for three

weeks. Neither of which worked for me. But some people do have great success.

It will be something that you have to try to see if it will work for you.

Tara

In a message dated 7/12/2008 6:25:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

pombou51562000@... writes:

Hi - amazing, the dedication to battling this nasty disease. Does anyone

have any positive thing(s) to say about injection therapy. I have had two

arthroscope clean outs and an osteotomy and I think I may be done with

surgeries

for a while - but I'd like to see if injections are worth the trouble. .

From: _try2livehealthy@try2liv_ (mailto:try2livehealthy@...)

<_try2livehealthy@try2liv_ (mailto:try2livehealthy@...) >

Subject: Re: Re:New to the group

_chondromalaciacommuchondromalaciacochon_

(mailto:chondromalacia treatment )

Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 5:22 PM

Joi,

I have 2 lateral releases, I have 2 osteotomy's, I have had one carticle and

I am getting ready to have another lateral release and the second carticle.

So when I am finished I will have had 7 operations. Hopefully that is it.

Tara

In a message dated 7/12/2008 1:54:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

wildwestnwi (DOT) net writes:

Welcome Tara. What surgeries have you had done? I've had CP in both knees

for about 30 years.

Joi

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Don,

I have had three different surgeons. The first two were done by one doctor

and the operations didn't work. The second set, the osteotomies were done

another doctor. The carticel is done by another doctor. I am 11 months out on

the

first carticel. Not pain free although I wish I was and maybe I will be. I

was told it takes 2 years to know. But I am getting ready to have the operation

done on the other knee. My surgeon that did my osteotomies referred me to

the doctor who does the carticel. They went to medical school together. When I

am finished with the carticel treatment I will go back to my ortho doctor who

did the osteotomies.

So I have had three operations on my right knee and 2 on my let knee, when

its all over this year I will have had 4 operations on my left knee. I hope

that will be it.

I hope to be pain free one day.

Tara

In a message dated 7/12/2008 6:41:46 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

panteradon@... writes:

Is this all with the same surgeon? Of course, I have had 5 myself on just

my right knee.

How has your Carticel worked out? How long ago did you have it?

I have had the Carticel surgery and am very heppy with it. Cut, edged and

weed eated the yard yesterday with no trouble. I have limits, but overall

am virtually pain free.

Don

On 7/12/08, _try2livehealthy@try2liv_ (mailto:try2livehealthy@...)

<_try2livehealthy@try2liv_ (mailto:try2livehealthy@...) > wrote:

>

> ,

>

> I did not have any success with shots in my knee. I had two different times

>

> one that I got every week for six weeks and one i got every week for three

> weeks. Neither of which worked for me. But some people do have great

> success.

> It will be something that you have to try to see if it will work for you.

>

> Tara

>

>

> In a message dated 7/12/2008 6:25:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> _pombou51562000@pombou515_ (mailto:pombou51562000@...)

<pombou51562000%pombou51562> writes:

>

> Hi - amazing, the dedication to battling this nasty disease. Does anyone

> have any positive thing(s) to say about injection therapy. I have had two

> arthroscope clean outs and an osteotomy and I think I may be done with

> surgeries

> for a while - but I'd like to see if injections are worth the trouble.

> .

>

>

>

> From: _try2livehealthy@ From: _try2liveh_try2livehealthy@try2liv_

(mailto:try2livehealthy@...) <try2livehealthy%try2liveh>

>

> <_try2livehealthy@_try2livehealthy@_try2livehealthy@try2liv_

(mailto:try2livehealthy@...) <try2livehealthy%try2liveh>

> >

> Subject: Re: Re:New to the group

> _chondromalaciacomm _chondromal _

> (mailto:_chondromalaciacommuchondromalaciacochon_

(mailto:chondromalacia treatment )

<chondromalaciacommchondromalaciacochondro>)

>

> Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 5:22 PM

>

> Joi,

>

> I have 2 lateral releases, I have 2 osteotomy's, I have had one carticle

> and

> I am getting ready to have another lateral release and the second carticle.

>

> So when I am finished I will have had 7 operations. Hopefully that is it.

>

> Tara

>

> In a message dated 7/12/2008 1:54:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> wildwestnwi (DOT) net writes:

>

> Welcome Tara. What surgeries have you had done? I've had CP in both knees

> for about 30 years.

>

> Joi

>

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Hi - amazing, the dedication to battling this nasty disease.  Does anyone have

any positive thing(s) to say about injection therapy.  I have had two

arthroscope clean outs and an osteotomy and I think I may be done with surgeries

for a while - but I'd like to see if injections are worth the trouble. .

From: try2livehealthy@... <try2livehealthy@...>

Subject: Re: Re:New to the group

chondromalacia treatment

Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 5:22 PM

Joi,

I have 2 lateral releases, I have 2 osteotomy's, I have had one carticle and

I am getting ready to have another lateral release and the second carticle.

So when I am finished I will have had 7 operations. Hopefully that is it.

Tara

In a message dated 7/12/2008 1:54:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

wildwestnwi (DOT) net writes:

Welcome Tara. What surgeries have you had done? I've had CP in both knees

for about 30 years.

Joi

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Is this all with the same surgeon? Of course, I have had 5 myself on just

my right knee.

How has your Carticel worked out? How long ago did you have it?

I have had the Carticel surgery and am very heppy with it. Cut, edged and

weed eated the yard yesterday with no trouble. I have limits, but overall

am virtually pain free.

Don

On 7/12/08, try2livehealthy@... <try2livehealthy@...> wrote:

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> ,

>

> I did not have any success with shots in my knee. I had two different times

>

> one that I got every week for six weeks and one i got every week for three

> weeks. Neither of which worked for me. But some people do have great

> success.

> It will be something that you have to try to see if it will work for you.

>

> Tara

>

>

> In a message dated 7/12/2008 6:25:11 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> pombou51562000@... <pombou51562000%40> writes:

>

> Hi - amazing, the dedication to battling this nasty disease. Does anyone

> have any positive thing(s) to say about injection therapy. I have had two

> arthroscope clean outs and an osteotomy and I think I may be done with

> surgeries

> for a while - but I'd like to see if injections are worth the trouble.

> .

>

>

>

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> Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 5:22 PM

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> Joi,

>

> I have 2 lateral releases, I have 2 osteotomy's, I have had one carticle

> and

> I am getting ready to have another lateral release and the second carticle.

>

> So when I am finished I will have had 7 operations. Hopefully that is it.

>

> Tara

>

> In a message dated 7/12/2008 1:54:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> wildwestnwi (DOT) net writes:

>

> Welcome Tara. What surgeries have you had done? I've had CP in both knees

> for about 30 years.

>

> Joi

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[Guest guest]

,

I totally agree. At Hospital For Special Surgery, all docs use a numbing

spray so there is only a slight sting, if that, when the needle goes in.

Also, a number of studies have come out that show Synvisc has double the

potential side effects and no more effective than Euflexxa (a newer product).

Also, some people can't use Synvisc because they are allergic to dairy/chicken.

Euflexxa is allergy free. HSS has been switching to Euflexxa.

I had the 3 Euflexxa shots and am essentially pain free for the past 3 mos.

Anne

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