Donna

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In a message dated 4/3/2003 1:53:02 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Duffey48@... writes:

> Hey, *I* am thoroughly impressed

> that Zeb was able to go with you. Wouldn't have been remotely possible

> with Miss Maddie!!

Hi Donna,

There are days with Zeb that it would be impossible too. He couldn't wait to

take a ride and get out of the house. I never know when he decides he isn't

going to walk anymore and just sit. I did promise him lunch out so he would

do anything for food,LOL, especially at a restaurant. He lives to go out to

eat and not fast food either. I spoke too soon about him feeling better. The

school called yesterday afternoon to say he was sick. I picked him up

coughing and with a fever, oh well. Zeb is home today and still has the cough

and fever not to mention the baby is being her usual grouchy self.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

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In a message dated 4/4/2003 11:16:08 AM Eastern Standard Time,

charlyne1121@... writes:

> There are days with Zeb that it would be impossible too. He couldn't wait to

>

> take a ride and get out of the house. I never know when he decides he isn't

>

> going to walk anymore and just sit. I did promise him lunch out so he would

>

> do anything for food,LOL, especially at a restaurant. He lives to go out to

>

> eat and not fast food either. I spoke too soon about him feeling better.

> The

> school called yesterday afternoon to say he was sick. I picked him up

> coughing and with a fever, oh well. Zeb is home today and still has the

> cough

> and fever not to mention the baby is being her usual grouchy self.

>

Aw, poor Zeb!!!! Sounds like the baby is colicky, hey Char? My first

was SUPER colicky and my fourth too (though not as bad). Ever try

strapping her in her little instant seat and setting her on the dryer

(staying with her naturally)? Used to work like a charm. Also, I

remember nights when little Joe slept in his swing......and this was in the

pre-battery days!!! I used to doze for 20 minutes til the things stopped,

slink over and knotch by knotch (so as not to wake him), crank it up

again....LOLOL

Hope Zeb feels better today!!

Donna

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Hi Donna,

The baby has reflux and is on zantac. I think she has cried more in her 3 mos

than any of my kids did in their whole life. She spits up more than she eats.

My oldest son told me that I should put my head and arms through a garbage

bag and wear that during the day, LOL. I have walked, rocked, sang anything

you could think of but I haven't found anything that works yet. I took Zeb to

the dr today and he just has a virus, thankfully no major infection of any

kind. I need to get everyone better for baby's christening on sunday. I think

I am too old for babies!!

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

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In a message dated 4/5/2003 2:08:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

charlyne1121@... writes:

> I think she has cried more in her 3 mos

> than any of my kids did in their whole life. She spits up more than she

> eats.

>

My oldest did too Charlyne. He did that projectile vomiting......I had

more embarrassing moments than I could count (one was in church....Oh the

poor man in front of me...LOL) Obviously it hasn't effected Joe too

much....at almost 22, he eats everything that's not nailed down...LOL

Donna

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In a message dated 4/5/2003 12:17:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Duffey48@... writes:

> He did that projectile vomiting......I had

> more embarrassing moments than I could count (one was in church....Oh the

> poor man in front of me...LOL)

Hi Donna,

I bet that man still remembers Joe! LOL I just pressed the christening gown

but bought 4 back up bibs for the big day. I will be thinking of Joe in

church with her tomorrow. I nursed all my kids and never had a problem like

this before.

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/6/2003 2:48:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,

charlyne1121@... writes:

> Hi Donna,

> I bet that man still remembers Joe! LOL I just pressed the christening gown

>

> but bought 4 back up bibs for the big day. I will be thinking of Joe in

> church with her tomorrow. I nursed all my kids and never had a problem like

>

> this before.

> Charlyne

> Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

>

Maddie still has GERD, but her reflux didn't start until she stopped nursing

at 15 months. If I had been successful at nursing Joe, he wouldn't have had

reflux either.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Montyman will drink from ANY cup or glass that has ANYTHING in it! NOT

comforting, I have tried and tried to brake him of this, but for some reason

he STILL think's everything if for HIM! Oh, any he will eat off anyone's

plate, too. If it is something he doesnt want, he will give it back. LOL

Donna, Montyman's Mom

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/7/2003 10:22:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Duffey48@... writes:

> Maddie still has GERD, but her reflux didn't start until she stopped nursing

> at 15 months. If I had been successful at nursing Joe, he wouldn't have

> had

> reflux either.

Ok, so it is mostly bottle babies! She didn't spit up once and slept right

through mostly everything. Now why doesn't she do that for me?

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

[Guest guest]

>

> Oh boy Irma....when it rains it pours, huh? Good luck and I

hope things calm down for you!!!

> {{{{{hugs}}}}}

> Donna

Thanks Donna,

Y'all the best cyber-friends for lending an ear. It has helped, I

can breath better.

Hey, I have a question for y'all on something that I noticed which I

caught doing, he was drinking out of somebody elses drink

during one of our outings. Yuck! Does Maddie or anyones child do

this? I hope I find a way to break this habit. Sorry, if this sounds

like a wimpy moment. I grew up with a nurse who had worked at a

health dept. Lots of cooties. TB, etc.

Irma,14,DS/ASD

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Irma,

JJ will do this! I remember at the baseball game he did this. The

woman took one look at him and threw it away.

On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 08:11 AM, mum592001 wrote:

> >

> > Oh boy Irma....when it rains it pours, huh?    Good luck and I

> hope things calm down for you!!!

> > {{{{{hugs}}}}}

> > Donna

>

> Thanks Donna,

> Y'all the best cyber-friends for lending an ear. It has helped, I

> can breath better.

> Hey, I have a question for y'all on something that I noticed which I

> caught doing, he was drinking out of somebody elses drink

> during one of our outings. Yuck! Does Maddie or anyones child do

> this? I hope I find a way to break this habit. Sorry, if this sounds

> like a wimpy moment. I grew up with a nurse who had worked at a

> health dept. Lots of cooties. TB, etc.

> Irma,14,DS/ASD

>

>

>

>

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>

> From: " mum592001 " <ICANFIELD@...>

> Date: 2003/04/07 Mon AM 11:11:28 EDT

>

> Subject: Re: Donna

>

>>>I have a question for y'all on something that I noticed which I

caught doing, he was drinking out of somebody elses drink

during one of our outings. Yuck! Does Maddie or anyones child do

this? >>>

Hey Irma, at least isn't picking up food or inedible objects of the

ground/floor. Rochelle has been know to do this. I just say " No " . What else can

you do.

Diane

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nathan is very bad about this too, he is perpetually thristy i swear, and if

you leave a pop or beer or what ever sitting on the table or where ever

nearby, he just comes along and chugs it down, uuugh, one thing nice about

it was when they did a glucose tolerance test he just chugged it down

too,lol, i think i would vomit,lol, and NOW when he does, after he just

finished or even if just drank some, he goes " thanks mom " heheeh, like he

really needed that, what a goof. I'm not sure how to stop it, i just remeind

him its NOT his drink that if he wants one, to ask for one or get one

himself, not to drink others, maybe it will sink in eventually. shawna.

Re: Re: Donna

> Irma,

>

> JJ will do this! I remember at the baseball game he did this. The

> woman took one look at him and threw it away.

>

> On Monday, April 7, 2003, at 08:11 AM, mum592001 wrote:

>

> > >

> > > Oh boy Irma....when it rains it pours, huh? Good luck and I

> > hope things calm down for you!!!

> > > {{{{{hugs}}}}}

> > > Donna

> >

> > Thanks Donna,

> > Y'all the best cyber-friends for lending an ear. It has helped, I

> > can breath better.

> > Hey, I have a question for y'all on something that I noticed which I

> > caught doing, he was drinking out of somebody elses drink

> > during one of our outings. Yuck! Does Maddie or anyones child do

> > this? I hope I find a way to break this habit. Sorry, if this sounds

> > like a wimpy moment. I grew up with a nurse who had worked at a

> > health dept. Lots of cooties. TB, etc.

> > Irma,14,DS/ASD

> >

> >

>

> >

> >

> > --------------------------------------------------

> > Checkout our homepage for information, bookmarks, and

> > photos of our kids. Share favorite bookmarks, ideas, and other

> > information by including them. Don't forget, messages are a permanent

> > record of the archives for our list.

> >

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> >

[Guest guest]

Boy! Can you imagine if we had a reunion?

We all have so much in common or can relate. : )

Irma,14,DS/ASD

> Montyman will drink from ANY cup or glass that has ANYTHING in

it! NOT

> comforting, I have tried and tried to brake him of this, but for

some reason

> he STILL think's everything if for HIM! Oh, any he will eat off

anyone's

> plate, too. If it is something he doesnt want, he will give it

back. LOL

> Donna, Montyman's Mom

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In a message dated 4/7/2003 2:04:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,

charlyne1121@... writes:

> Ok, so it is mostly bottle babies! She didn't spit up once and slept right

> through mostly everything. Now why doesn't she do that for me?

> Charlyne

>

Who'd she sleep for Charlyne? Her mom? No dummy, huh? LOL I would

imagine that there are babies who have reflux who are breastfed, but would

guess it's significantly lower since it's *nature's food*. Even though

Joe had projectile vomiting, he managed to gain just fine all through

babyhood...;-) I hope the baby AND you get through the colicky times

soon!!!

Donna

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In a message dated 4/8/2003 2:13:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

Duffey48@... writes:

> I hope the baby AND you get through the colicky times

> soon!!!

Hi Donna,

Me too, it's only been an hour and I have changed twice already, yuck

Charlyne

Mom to Zeb 10 DS/OCD ?

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Hey Sweetie,

I love the IOWA GAMES! I never compete, but I have been a volunteer

for the last 3 years (I referee the youth basketball tourney's), and

have such a blast! If you compete or just go to watch the games,

maybe I will see you there, cool! It really is a good time to be had

by all, I love all the energy. Yah, the snow melted here, too, and we

got mud, mud, mud, YUCK! It should be gone by this weekend though,

the weather is supposed to be beeeautiful this weekend. I am a

graduate student working on my PhD in counseling psychology, but my

son really wants to be vet! He volunteers at the ARL and researchs

all he can about animals (he's only 11!), but he seems to have

inherited my love of learning (as well as my love of food, lol, poor

kid). Okay, way more than you wanted to know, sorry. Let me know if

you plan on attending the games! Have a superfabulous day! Oh, and I

actually resisted the scale today, it was hard, but I did it! YAH!!!!

Sincerely,

Donna

> Are you going to compete in the Iowa games in Ames this summer? I

saw

> a flyer at the Y tonight and it looked like so much fun. How 'bout

> horseshoes? The things they'll turn into an event. Hey, Jerry

> Sienfeld is coming to Sioux City this summer. Finally we get

> something cool to come here. You guys get all of the fun over

there.

> I forget, are you studying to be a Vet?

> Have a great WO tomorrow and hit all of your 10's!

> 'nite

> Angie in Ia

> PS: it is sludgville around here, the snow we got last weekend

melted

> all day and now S.C. is a swampland!

[Guest guest]

Hey Cy,

I'll let you know if we decide to go to the Games. My son is 14 and he is

determined to go to ISU. Even has ISU wallpaper in his room. I'd love for him to

go there but want him to realize that other schools DO exist. LOL! he once told

me ISU was the only college/university In the whole sate. He's quite the eater

too, but has grown so tall is doesn't matter what he eats! BFL has been good for

him too. He signed up for a weightlifting instruc. class at the Y and we put on

quite the " gun show " after we workout!!! aren't kids a blast?

I remain steadfast in my anti scale commitment!! My friend still thinks she'll

have to take it from me...pry it from my cold, lifeless fingers no less!!!! but

I am going to hold out.

tomorrow is UBWO and I am gonna rock!!

Angie in Ia

Re: Donna

Hey Sweetie,

I love the IOWA GAMES! I never compete, but I have been a volunteer

for the last 3 years (I referee the youth basketball tourney's), and

have such a blast! If you compete or just go to watch the games,

maybe I will see you there, cool! It really is a good time to be had

by all, I love all the energy. Yah, the snow melted here, too, and we

got mud, mud, mud, YUCK! It should be gone by this weekend though,

the weather is supposed to be beeeautiful this weekend. I am a

graduate student working on my PhD in counseling psychology, but my

son really wants to be vet! He volunteers at the ARL and researchs

all he can about animals (he's only 11!), but he seems to have

inherited my love of learning (as well as my love of food, lol, poor

kid). Okay, way more than you wanted to know, sorry. Let me know if

you plan on attending the games! Have a superfabulous day! Oh, and I

actually resisted the scale today, it was hard, but I did it! YAH!!!!

Sincerely,

Donna

> Are you going to compete in the Iowa games in Ames this summer? I

saw

> a flyer at the Y tonight and it looked like so much fun. How 'bout

> horseshoes? The things they'll turn into an event. Hey, Jerry

> Sienfeld is coming to Sioux City this summer. Finally we get

> something cool to come here. You guys get all of the fun over

there.

> I forget, are you studying to be a Vet?

> Have a great WO tomorrow and hit all of your 10's!

> 'nite

> Angie in Ia

> PS: it is sludgville around here, the snow we got last weekend

melted

> all day and now S.C. is a swampland!

[Guest guest]

I have many Internet friends. I have even met lots of them in person and they

are every bit as wonderful as I imagined!!! Having Internet friends is great. I

consider lots of my Internet friends " true " friends.

Sunshine

Donna

--OH Donna!

I just came from folding laundry to check this board as I dooo soo

much on the days...and found this post. I was extremely surprised! I

always try to lift others up and that is so fun to do..but you just

lifted me way way up to the universe!

Ummm...all I can say is I just started crying! You have no idea how

wonderful you just made me feel! I really mean this though..all of

you are some of the most kind hearted and lovable people I have

met..even if it is over the internet. Maybe it is because I throw

myself into this place every day..and heee heee...make you be my

friends...LOL! You have no choice..you cannot escape me!

MUWAAAHAAAHAAAA!!! I haven't made any friends much here..so this is

my place to have friends...right here with all of you.

I know it took you some time to write these words you just

wrote...but thank you sooo much! I just don't even know what else to

say....*cries of tears of luv and thanks*

Kathi (who's just another name)

In , " Donna " <cyclonedoc@h...>

wrote:

> Dear Kathi,

>

> Oh, you sweet, innocent thing! You talk of being surrounded by

beauty

> but fail to mention (or perhaps I fear to even realize) what a

truly

> beautiful person you see every time you look in the mirror. You

have

> a beautiful, free, childlike, unspoiled spirit that is so rare to

see

> in these modern cynical times. That is why those of us on this

board

> look so forward to reading your posts; your optimistic outlook and

> incredibly energetic enthusiasm actually serve to enable me to

think

> of BFL as a fun adventure rather than as a diet and exercise

regime.

> I know you mentioned your mother had flawed parenting skills, but

> someone did something right, because you are truly a wonder and a

> refreshing tonic to the human spirit! Have a wonderful second

> challenge, I wish you ultimate success (as I wish us all success)

on

> this next leg of your journey. However, just remember that you are

> already beautiful, and that BFL may enhance your health and fitness

> level, but true beauty is innate and you already are blessed with

> more than your fair share of it!!!!

>

> Sincerely,

> Donna

[Guest guest]

Could I have said " internet friends " one more time?? LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Donna

--OH Donna!

I just came from folding laundry to check this board as I dooo soo

much on the days...and found this post. I was extremely surprised! I

always try to lift others up and that is so fun to do..but you just

lifted me way way up to the universe!

Ummm...all I can say is I just started crying! You have no idea how

wonderful you just made me feel! I really mean this though..all of

you are some of the most kind hearted and lovable people I have

met..even if it is over the internet. Maybe it is because I throw

myself into this place every day..and heee heee...make you be my

friends...LOL! You have no choice..you cannot escape me!

MUWAAAHAAAHAAAA!!! I haven't made any friends much here..so this is

my place to have friends...right here with all of you.

I know it took you some time to write these words you just

wrote...but thank you sooo much! I just don't even know what else to

say....*cries of tears of luv and thanks*

Kathi (who's just another name)

In , " Donna " <cyclonedoc@h...>

wrote:

> Dear Kathi,

>

> Oh, you sweet, innocent thing! You talk of being surrounded by

beauty

> but fail to mention (or perhaps I fear to even realize) what a

truly

> beautiful person you see every time you look in the mirror. You

have

> a beautiful, free, childlike, unspoiled spirit that is so rare to

see

> in these modern cynical times. That is why those of us on this

board

> look so forward to reading your posts; your optimistic outlook and

> incredibly energetic enthusiasm actually serve to enable me to

think

> of BFL as a fun adventure rather than as a diet and exercise

regime.

> I know you mentioned your mother had flawed parenting skills, but

> someone did something right, because you are truly a wonder and a

> refreshing tonic to the human spirit! Have a wonderful second

> challenge, I wish you ultimate success (as I wish us all success)

on

> this next leg of your journey. However, just remember that you are

> already beautiful, and that BFL may enhance your health and fitness

> level, but true beauty is innate and you already are blessed with

> more than your fair share of it!!!!

>

> Sincerely,

> Donna

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In a message dated 5/8/2003 9:01:13 AM Eastern Standard Time,

smilinggail@... writes:

> Hi Donna,

> We will be leaving Leah's the AM of the 10th and will be in Phili around

> 5-6

> PM. Staying at Phili Cityline Holiday Inn on Presidential Blvd. Is that

> anywhere near you?

> Gail :-)

>

Yep, 15 minutes away dear. Let me know how you want to do this. You guys

can come for dinner either that night, lunch the next day (although you'd

miss Maddie that way as she has school) or dinner on the 11th. Whatever

works for you guys. Will you have your car? I can give simple

directions (be quiet Joan....LOL).

Donna

[Guest guest]

Thanks Donna,

I'm glad still has his appetite. What I like is that he knows

what to use to clean his nose with and ask for it " issue " or gets up

on his own to remove one out of the box to clean his own nose. Whew!

This was some work, finally. Still need some assistance when its

alot but at least he will not just stand around with some decorative

stuff on his face or clothes. : )

Oh my! I must agree, poor n. What a date to remember, hope all

turns out well for him. Hope he has some fun. Well, if he still

feels bad at least she would understand that he tried to stick it

out if has to leave early.

Irma,14,DS/ASD

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/8/03 10:55:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Duffey48@...

writes:

<< Yep, 15 minutes away dear. Let me know how you want to do this. You

guys

can come for dinner either that night, lunch the next day (although you'd

miss Maddie that way as she has school) or dinner on the 11th. Whatever

works for you guys. Will you have your car? I can give simple

directions (be quiet Joan....LOL).

Donna >>

Hi Donna,

If you e-mail me your phone number, I'll give you a call so we can set up a

meeting. I think dinner sounds good, because I don't want to miss Maddie!

LOL Well, I want to taste your cooking too! LOL Just the names of your

recipes gets the heart beating faster! LOL But whatever works for you. We

can meet after dinner too. We have no plans in Phili other than to visit you

and Margaret. Well, maybe the butterfly house. The girls love that place!

LOL

Gail :-)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/19/2003 1:43:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,

smilinggail@... writes:

> Hi Donna,

> If you e-mail me your phone number, I'll give you a call so we can set up a

> meeting. I think dinner sounds good, because I don't want to miss Maddie!

> LOL Well, I want to taste your cooking too! LOL Just the names of your

> recipes gets the heart beating faster! LOL But whatever works for you. We

>

> can meet after dinner too. We have no plans in Phili other than to visit

> you

> and Margaret. Well, maybe the butterfly house. The girls love that place!

>

> LOL

> Gail :-)

Ok Gail, so we'll plan on dinner on the 11th then. I'll email my phone

number to you privately, so we can talk as it gets closer to the date (and of

course, to find out what you and kids like to eat). Margaret dear, what's

your

status? Will you be staying over?

Donna

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/27/2003 2:30:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

shapirov@... writes:

> I would focus on having in the IEP document all the

> reasons (ad nauseum) that Maddie requires this level of ESY--

> adjustments to her schedule, loss of skills, building up of critical

> self care skills, etc.,etc., etc. That way, when next year rolls

> around, you can pull out this year's document, go over each and every

> reason why Maddie required a high level this year, and basically say

> that these reasons still exist so she still needs a high amount of ESY

Yes, well we met today, and naturally no one from Philly came....(surprise

surprise---_I told the principal...well you can BET your bottom dollar they'll

be at her October IEP). Anyway, they were great......I talked with the

teacher and principal about what to write and how to use very strong wording in

certain areas like change in environment (important as they may say they can

give

her ESY in a city placement---another piece I told them to keep in and stress

is that Maddie doesn't sweat. Apparently, that can be a barrier for city

placement as they can't promise air conditioning), and her huge readjustment

issues....I told them to put in the document about how the ONLY time we've EVER

seen aggression in Maddie is after being away from her routine. Told them I

would take the written up document (should get it in the mail soon) and have a

lawyer look at it before we sign...they said they are doing the same with

their lawyers before they send them to Philly. I also said I want more

consistent documentation about Maddie's behaviors, how she reacts to change and

transitions during regular school hours and after breaks.....all they said they

would do. Also, Duff and I will be getting together with the other 4 parents

interested in fighting this. Apparently what happened was that the DPE of PA

typically has given funds to Philly for the approved private schools' ESY

programs....out of the blue, they said no. So Philly had to find the funding

pronto as legally they could do nothing else anyway. Me and Maddie may end

up

rousing up Ed Rendell......I can just see her in his office...I'm sure he'd

love that....LOL

Thanks Ginny!!! It's the October IEP that will be hairy!!! You KNOW I'll

keep you posted!!!! ;-)

Donna

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/28/2003 5:43:49 PM Eastern Standard Time,

shapirov@... writes:

> Again, I think it was a ploy to see how much they can get away with--

> and I'm sure that someone, somewhere didn't fight like you and so in

> the end it probably did save Philly some money. Dammit

I know Ginny. But I think this only effects the aps schools and supposedly

they've gathered together. Like you said though, it's the individual parents

that have to fight. Melmark can only do so much. No doubt someone loses

out, if not now then by next year.

<<When are we going to get Miss Maddie and together?  I

remember you saying that Miss Maddie doesn't like kids shorter than

her--how tall is she?  is a lean, mean 42 pounds, 42 inches

last time we checked (March).  Is that compatible with Miss Maddie? 

Did I see postings correctly that Gail and Margaret are coming to

Philly sometime soon??  With my luck, it will be around June 14-19,

when I'm in Colorado for a work-related meeting.>>

OOOhhhhh yes yes!!!!! I didn't forget...I just am one of those people who

has to get through things one at a time...LOLOL Gail, children and

hopefully Margaret will be here for dinner on the 10th, a Tuesday night. Seth

will

not be joining Gail, and I don't think Gareth is coming either, but of course,

Miss Maddie will be here. We would love for you, dh and Mr. to

join us!!! sounds like *just the right size* for Maddie (er,

anyway, Allie will be here along with Gail's kids to make sure there's no

bull-dozing.....LOL).....just kidding. Maddie has never been that bad with

smaller

kids....;-) She just tends not to have much interest in them. But as we

know, everything takes work with our kids, even interest...LOL

It'll be So much fun Ginny!! I know it's a work night for you (Duff too,

however all other kids except Maddie are off here that Wednesday), but hopefully

you can come!!!!

Donna