Donna

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Hi Donna

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You are most welcome here - write as often as you need to and don't be afraid to "dump" - that's part of what this list is for.

We also welcome jokes, funny pictures, or anything else that makes you laugh.

Some of us on this list also have problems with depression - I am on anti-depressant medication myself - so we understand.

Take care of yourself and write again soon.

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Gwydion

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> From: dk143@... > > I WANTED TO WRITE AND TELL EVERY ONE HOW MUCH I LIKED THIS LOOP.> I WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON IN MY LIFE. I HAVE BEEN> DIAGNOSED AS ACUTE DEPRESSED-I AM ON SUICIDE WATCH, WHICH MEANS I CANNOT> BE LEFT ALONE FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME. I HAVE STARTED GROUP THERAPY 5> DAYS A WEEK. I GUESS I WILL BE PUT ON MORE MEDICINE. WHAT WITH> EVERYTHING THAT IS WRONG WITH ME, AND THE LOSS OF MY YOUNGEST BROTHER IN> OCT. I JUST CANNOT HANDLE IT ANYMORE.> I WILL BE WRITING MORE, THANKYOU FOR BEING HERE FOR ME.> DONNA> PS: THE CAPS ARE BECAUSE I HAVE POOR VISION. > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------> SCHEDULED CHATS FOR MARCH> > 2nd Tuesday Night/Wednesday Afternoon> Auckland time zone Wednesday 15th 3pm> Los Angeles time zone Tuesday 14th 6pm> New York time zone Tuesday 14th 9pm> Sydney time zone Wednesday 15th 1pm> > 4th Saturday Night/Sunday Afternoon of the Month> Auckland time zone Sunday 26th 3pm> Los Angeles time zone Saturday 25th 6pm> New York time zone Saturday 25th 9pm> Sydney time zone Sunday 26th 1pm> > Members Only Chat Room is situated at /chat/ > >

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AISHA

YES, I AM STILL ON SUICIDE WATCH.

I AM SEEING A SMALL IMPROVEMENT HOWEVER, I STILL ATTEND GROUP THERAPY 5

DAYS A WEEK. I AM BEGINNING TO LAUGH AND ENJOY TALKING AGAIN. THE

DOCTOR PUT ME ON PAXIL. I TAKE IT AT BEDTIME.

THANK YOU FOR ASKING.

DONNA

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" I AM BEGINNING TO LAUGH AND ENJOY TALKING AGAIN. "

Donna that is fantastic!! Hang in there.. talk to us when you need to or

just for the hell of it ok! Do keep us informed with your progress - we all

care.

*CYBER HUGS TO YOU*

Aisha.

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Wow, I'm glad you're on that Paxil, that stuff works! I

took it for just 12 weeks, and got rid of a lot of

aggressive feelings, against myself and others, too.

Hope you feel better soon!

vanessa

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In a message dated 10/9/00 4:56:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, duffey48@...

writes:

<< a, we had a really good time. LOVED the movie (of course, I'm such a

HUGE Denzel fan). But guess what guys?!? We got rear-ended on the way to

the movies. DH got out screaming at the guy that his wife is already in a

* & %# neck brace. Then I strut out to check out the rear damage. Poor guy

about had a heart attack when he saw me......LOLOL Good thing I had the

neck

brace on though.

Donna

>>

Gosh Donna, glad you are okay. Just what you needed huh? Hope

transportation for Maddie works out. They do seem rather dense! LOL You

got snow? We did too! About two minutes of some slush, then it was gone! I

think Vegas sounds rather nice...snow and /or sun! Been there and I know I

would miss our beautiful mountains with all their color this time of year.

Gail

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oh donna, i hope you are ok!! i hope your hubby really laid it into that

driver, sound like he did, good for him. virtual codeine coming your way,

shawna.

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In a message dated 12/9/00 1:49:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,

texasbluebonnets@... writes:

<<

Hand over hand is wonderful. I agree with that as well. But I think you

should help her to understand that if she threw them all, she should pick

them all up. That's hard for us as adults to want to follow through on I

know, It's easier for us to do it ourselves and faster, but better for them

in the long run. She'll understand mom, give her some credit. *smile*.

>>

Hi ,

As mom to 5, I certainly know it's easier to do it myself and also know

how important it is that my children learn independence. I appreciate your

thoughts. I do indeed give Maddie credit. Maddie won't understand. She is

7 years old and cognitively functions on a six month old level. I never

expected my six month old babies to comprehend that they've made a mess that

needs cleaning up. Truly, I am not being defensive here; however, in light

of some of the other posts regarding parent style, I felt it was important to

mention that I do what is best for Maddie. I'm not so cocky that I won't

take advice; often I need it and I ask for it. My parent style is mine and

has worked well for me for 19 1/2 years. We all have our own methods, some

are tried and true and some we question. Yes, I have opinions about

others' methods, but here on this list, I only support. I feel I know all of

you and I know you are here because you love your children and would do

anything for them. As I said previously, I have 5 kids. DH and I honestly

treat all 5 differently. They are not the same, and disciplining them the

same would never work. Grounding works for one, a mere look works for

another. Every child is different and as the parents of our children, we

really do know what is best.

Donna

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In a message dated 12/9/00 7:55:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, duffey48@...

writes:

<< Every child is different and as the parents of our children, we

really do know what is best.

Donna >>

TOTAL AGREEMENT DONNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Gail

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In a message dated 12/10/00 11:15:18 AM Eastern Standard Time,

texasbluebonnets@... writes:

<< I was more like offering a *hug* type of comment to you in the vein of *

it's ok mom, if she doesn't understand right now, she will one day.*

thanks for not taking any of that the wrong way.

CIndy L

>>

Sure . And I always take hugs................

Donna

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At 10:14 AM 12/10/00 -0600, you wrote:

I would never in a million

>years critisize anyone's parenting skills. But sometimes a written word can

>be misconstrued.

Indeed....and sometimes the words we read affect how we then respond when

we leave to deal with our own families.

I hope that folks are beginning to understand better. It's not so much

about " censoring thoughts " as it is realizing that we're still talking to

and about people and our words affect them.

j

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i agree hand over hand is good too, we've been doing it for at least 6

years, but now th e behavioral mangmt team says to no lnger do that, he is

too big and strong for noe thing and old enough to understand to do on his

own, he does get rewards for his completed taks and I think its been fairl

ok, we still eoccasionally revert to hand over hand, old habits hard to

break i guess, but he is getting the idea. shawna.

Re: Donna

> In a message dated 12/9/00 1:49:03 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> texasbluebonnets@... writes:

>

> <<

>

> Hand over hand is wonderful. I agree with that as well. But I think you

> should help her to understand that if she threw them all, she should pick

> them all up. That's hard for us as adults to want to follow through on I

> know, It's easier for us to do it ourselves and faster, but better for

them

> in the long run. She'll understand mom, give her some credit. *smile*.

>

> >>

>

> Hi ,

> As mom to 5, I certainly know it's easier to do it myself and also

know

> how important it is that my children learn independence. I appreciate

your

> thoughts. I do indeed give Maddie credit. Maddie won't understand. She

is

> 7 years old and cognitively functions on a six month old level. I never

> expected my six month old babies to comprehend that they've made a mess

that

> needs cleaning up. Truly, I am not being defensive here; however, in

light

> of some of the other posts regarding parent style, I felt it was important

to

> mention that I do what is best for Maddie. I'm not so cocky that I won't

> take advice; often I need it and I ask for it. My parent style is mine

and

> has worked well for me for 19 1/2 years. We all have our own methods,

some

> are tried and true and some we question. Yes, I have opinions about

> others' methods, but here on this list, I only support. I feel I know all

of

> you and I know you are here because you love your children and would do

> anything for them. As I said previously, I have 5 kids. DH and I

honestly

> treat all 5 differently. They are not the same, and disciplining them the

> same would never work. Grounding works for one, a mere look works for

> another. Every child is different and as the parents of our children, we

> really do know what is best.

> Donna

>

>

>

>

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,

I appreciate your advice, but you must realize that there are huge

differences between our children, even if they all have the same diagnosis.

I agree with Donna, that not all strategies work on all kids. I also have 3

children and they are all different so far. As for my son, I try to do what

is appropriate for him at his level. He is 10 1/2 years old and functions at

about 11-12 months cognitively.He is not only low functioning but he has

stayed put pretty much developmentally at the same level for a long time! We

are not expecting him to make great strides developmentally, but will be very

pleasantly surprised if he does. This does not mean that we don't try, it

means we are realistic and that we don't want to burn ourselves out trying

things that he can't comprehend and that we know as parents won't work.

Marisa

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Hi Donna,

I read your post to Marie regarding the origin of autism in the kids....I

know that over the years I have heard all sorts of reasons " why " kids have

autism...from the " refrigerator mom " thing back in the childhood

schizophrenia days to neuropathic damage to viruses to immunizations, etc. I

don't think anybody can prove why a kid has autism; they just do! I have

never heard that is related to alcoholism or any sort of mental illness

although at an Autism Conference I attended there was some speculation about

a history of autism in families. The hypothesis was that it might have

existed in families going way back but was never recognized as autism because

it was confused with mental illness or in a milder form maybe thinking a

family member was " eccentric " or something. I have never heard anyone [in a

professional capacity] say anything about autism being related to anything

the parents or more specifically the mom did before or during pregnancy. If

that's what the guy was implying who spoke with Marie, then he's one of those

that would probably also use the term " Mongoloid " , which really chaps my

hide!! You can't take someone like that seriously....they are obviously

uneducated with respect to the subject! I could put that another way, (say

in a word about 7 letters, starting with " a " ) but then I probably wouldn't be

able to post any more messages! LOL

Terry

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terry said:

I could put that another way, (say

in a word about 7 letters, starting with " a " ) but then I probably wouldn't

be

able to post any more messages! LOL

heheheh i absolutely love your phrasing!!!!i think that is so funny....

eheheheh glad i laughed at someone else besides myself today or my rotten

son..heheh take care, leah

ps how is the chair thing going along with the cast and all that....did the

doctor call you back or have you figured out what your going to do

yet?????????

ps joan, how are the schools really in oregon?????

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In a message dated 1/24/01 11:25:41 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Imaddenmom@... writes:

<< I have

never heard that is related to alcoholism or any sort of mental illness

although at an Autism Conference I attended there was some speculation about

a history of autism in families. >>

Yes Terry, I have heard this too. And that it is more common in boys. My

hubby's cousin has a son who is severely autistic. So much so that they had

to place him in a residence. So very sad and it absolutely breaks their

hearts. But they have 5 other children and he was dangerous. Threw their

baby down the steps--that was the final episode that convinced them to place

him. The other children are girls, and then they had their 6th child; a

boy. And he's got Aspergers.

Marie, I hope I didn't upset you. But people like that doc really bug me.

Donna

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Hi Leah,

Happy I could give you a chuckle! hehehehe Yep, doc called me back on

Monday! Can you believe it?! He said he will cast him in a " sitting "

position. We have an appointment with a " Nurse Educator " next Tuesday

following 's pre-op appt. with the surgeon. I assume that she (he?)

will be telling us how we will be handling the cast situation,etc.

Meanwhile, we (dh & I) have talked to durable medical providers about various

kinds of equipment and started lining things up [so to speak! LOL....must be

where gets it! LOL]. Anyway, I think we will figure out what to do

as we go along...that seems to be the way of it, doesn't it?! LOL Thanks

for asking. Keep praying for and us. How's Cameron today? Do you

have an appt. with another doc yet? Keep us informed.

Terry

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In a message dated 1/25/01 10:58:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,

Imaddenmom@... writes:

<< Meanwhile, we (dh & I) have talked to durable medical providers about

various

kinds of equipment and started lining things up [so to speak! LOL....must be

where gets it! LOL]. Anyway, I think we will figure out what to do

as we go along...that seems to be the way of it, doesn't it?! LOL Thanks

for asking. Keep praying for and us. >>

LOLOL Terry. Glad to see you still have your sense of humor!! We will keep

the prayers coming!!!!

Donna

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In a message dated 2/24/01 8:50:28 AM Eastern Standard Time,

okieleah@... writes:

<< donna,

now i am ROFLOL!!! how on earth did they cut her curls off with toenail

clippers........that is TOO FUNNY!!! of course none of us think so at the

time..... how on in the world did alison buzz her hair at two..do you live

hair clippers laying around or did she use scissors???????lmao the things

these little angels do, now wonder i use clairol and drink

slimfast.....heheh thanks for sharing, i don/'t feel so bad now....hehehe

leah >>

I have no idea how the boys did it, but it sure looked chopped. Broke my

heart. And Alison just cut REALLY close to her head; it looked shaved.

She wore a hat for 6 months...............LOLOL

Donna

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In a message dated 3/8/01 10:19:05 PM Pacific Standard Time,

writes:

> Ok, We're not going

>

> To the endocrin. UGH!!!

Donna, I'm sorry, what would've the appt. been for? So your DH is going away

for awhile?? Mine's going away next week for a day, then gone March 21-24

again.

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In a message dated 3/9/01 9:06:11 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ltb3105@...

writes:

<< Donna, I'm sorry, what would've the appt. been for? So your DH is going

away

for awhile?? Mine's going away next week for a day, then gone March 21-24

again.

>>

WISH MINE WOULD GO AWAY FOR A WHILE!!!!!!! LOL

Gail

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In a message dated 3/9/01 9:06:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ltb3105@...

writes:

<< Donna, I'm sorry, what would've the appt. been for? So your DH is going

away

for awhile?? Mine's going away next week for a day, then gone March 21-24

again.

>>

,

We had an appointment with the endocrinologist. I've rescheduled for May

18th at a more reasonable hour (11:30 am.) Maddie slept good last night,

but still has a runny nose and her little voice is scratchy!! Today is MY

's 18th bday!!! Alison made her a card and we just brought roses and

breakfast up to her. So cute. Her friends are taking her out to dinner and

then ALL TEN GIRLS will be sleeping over. YIKES!!!! I'm having my aunt for

dinner to help celebrate the big event and then when dh comes home, we'll

celebrate it again.....IN Disneyworld!! We leave on Wednesday.

DH is in San Fran on business . He'll be home early Monday morning

(he's taking a red eye). He has to go away a few days a month, to State

College, PA, but it's always for just one night. This time, it's four. I

hate it when he's away............not because of the extra workload, but I

miss him....

Donna

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In a message dated 3/9/01 10:08:00 PM Eastern Standard Time,

smilinggail@... writes:

<< WISH MINE WOULD GO AWAY FOR A WHILE!!!!!!! LOL >>

ROTFLOL Gail!!!! You are a riot!!!

Oh . I just realized I didn't answer your question. The visit to the

endocrin with Maddie was just an annual check up for her hypothyroidism.

But even those visits that should be stress-free never are for her. Just

taking her blood pressure (they really never get an accurate reading),

temperature and trying to weigh her is an exhausting experience. Often, I

have to get on the scale first, then they weigh us together and

subtract....LOLOL

Donna

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In a message dated 3/10/01 9:32:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, duffey48@...

writes:

<< Today is MY

's 18th bday!!! Alison made her a card and we just brought roses and

breakfast up to her. So cute. >>

Happy Birthday to , Donna! Did she have a good one? Did you survive

the weekend? LOL

Gail

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In a message dated 3/11/01 11:18:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

smilinggail@... writes:

<< Happy Birthday to , Donna! Did she have a good one? Did you survive

the weekend? LOL

Gail >>

Thanks Gail. Yes, I survived. Duff came home this morning from San Fran

with STREP throat!!!!! And I took Maddie to the doc this morning and she

has it too. So the two of them will be on anti-biotics the whole time we're

in Disney....

Donna

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In a message dated 3/12/01 1:42:45 PM Eastern Standard Time, duffey48@...

writes:

<< Thanks Gail. Yes, I survived. Duff came home this morning from San Fran

with STREP throat!!!!! And I took Maddie to the doc this morning and she

has it too. So the two of them will be on anti-biotics the whole time we're

in Disney....

Donna >>

Oh Donna, I'm sorry. I'm sure by the time you go the antibiotics will kick

in and they will be feeling better. I will keep that in my prayers for you.

Will also pray that YOU get through everything okay and have a great

vacation. Gosh Donna, gonna miss your posts every day. :-( Not to begrudge

you a break, BUT HURRY BACK TO US!!!!!!! LOL

Gail