Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 carlena seepgaither <summershart@...> wrote: No, they are good doctors and they are bad doctors. Just like there are good teachers and bad teachers, good parents and bad parents. Its are job to find them out. My best friend's husband is going to be a doctor and I he's not shortsighted, stupid, arrogant, brainwashed and ect. I resent that comment. Nor are my two kids peds doctors. Carlena --- joanna athome <joanna_at_home@...> wrote: > >Carlena, Sorry to have offended you. I suppose my humour is a bit off centre and can sometimes be misconstured... Joanna > in IL <tgdamron@...> wrote: > not all doctors are evil ........ > > > > > Just mostly shortsighted, stupid, arrogant, > brainwashed and generally a blot on the > landscape!!!!! > > Joanna > > > use of is subject to the Terms > of Service. > > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 in IL <tgdamron@...> wrote: lol, Joanna .......... ok, I was trying to be a bit more diplomatic ...... lmao. Some days I feel like I'm banging my head against the wall with some of my family and friends. I'm like YOU DON'T HAVE TO AGREE WITH ME, JUST READ THE FREAKING INFORMATION. Thanks for understanding my comment........Joanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 22, 2002 Report Share Posted February 22, 2002 Hear, Hear!!!! My 12 year old is Homeschooled. She tried 7th grade but was bored. I asked them to move her up a grade and they said *What would she do next year*. They offered her no special services or help. If she had a learning disability, they would have had stuff all over for her. When the principal looked in file and saw saw her test scores , he asked if she would stay till after Star9 testing...NOT!!!!! > > we can't unite on children's education until we find a > way to truly educate our children. i would certainly > NOT consider school education anything that remotely > reflects true education. > jmo > claudia > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 I think it would take a crowbar and the strength of Hercules. Sherri Garrett Garrett Medical Claims For more information email me at garrettmedclaims@... or call me toll free at 866-611-2485 Re: Report Backs Infant Vaccinations today here at 1130 ish, the news said that there is no link to diabetes, they are safe, and that it DOES NOT cause ear infections and colds ........ <sigh> suppose we'll ever get their heads out of their asses....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 At 07:19 AM 02/22/2002 -0800, you wrote: >My chidlren have never had the Hep B. and the reason >why they had ear infections is because like me they >have small ear canals. Prone to bacterial infections >when they get a cold. I always tried herbal remedies >first before it got to a point that she needed >antiobitcs..Then they always ate yogrt with it and >then would not have one forever. But the reason why >she needed them was because she started expericening >hearing loss. Now she's dine and hasn't been to the >docs expect for her 4yr checkup. Since she was two >only been in 2. Both were for yearly check ups. >Oh, no last year she had to go in because she had a >sinus infection, so okay three times. Haveyour children had any vaccines? Sheri -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 >Yes actually my peds doctor my son's anyways told me >that I would have to fill out a form since my son is >allergic to the DPT shot and not the DT. HE said that >in the future if I chose not to have vaccines then I >would have to fill out this form again. its not about being allergic - sorry - its a vaccine reaction. > >In my experience with doctors, yes they may not know >everything, but if you point something out about it >they are willing to investgate it. You must live on a different planet than most of us. RARE!!!!!!! does any doctor listen to anything any of us say. SO I do count >myself lucky that the docs that I have had experince >with are willing to do that, because I do know that >some are not. They are willing to let me do the herbal >thing and see and if not better then they go in. But >at least I try everything I know and then go. They >have been on less antibo...then other chidlren that I >know. RARELY does a child EVER EVEN NEED an antibiotic. MOST of the children here who are not vaccinated have NEVER had an ear infection ro antibiotic! Let's hear it from some of you. > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 --- Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > RARELY does a child EVER EVEN NEED an antibiotic. > MOST of the children > here who are not vaccinated have NEVER had an ear > infection ro antibiotic! > Let's hear it from some of you. dd, 12, partly vax'ed: up to age 4, too many health problems to keep count of, including recurring cough, ear infections, constipation (i never allowed her to get antibiotics). from age 5 onwards, homoeopathic treatment. had had about 3 or 4 colds since, plus chicken pox. ds, 4, non-vaxed except hep b at birth (against my will, was told after the event!): has been ill twice to date, once chicken pox at 12 months, and beginning of the week flu with cold, started monday and by wednesday afternoon he was fit enough to go to the beach for a little while... just two of many, many live proofs that life is easier and healthier without vaccinations! claudia ===== see our new website! take part in our poll!!! http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/wiseone/allopathic.htm and http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/wiseone/pollpage.htm It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye. -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery, The Little Prince __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 Our son's partially vax'd, stopped at six months of age (he's now eight and a half years); he's never had an ear infection, nor any antibiotics. Kim Re: Report Backs Infant Vaccinations > --- Sheri Nakken <vaccineinfo@...> wrote: > > RARELY does a child EVER EVEN NEED an antibiotic. > > MOST of the children > > here who are not vaccinated have NEVER had an ear > > infection ro antibiotic! > > Let's hear it from some of you. > > dd, 12, partly vax'ed: up to age 4, too many health > problems to keep count of, including recurring cough, > ear infections, constipation (i never allowed her to > get antibiotics). from age 5 onwards, homoeopathic > treatment. had had about 3 or 4 colds since, plus > chicken pox. > ds, 4, non-vaxed except hep b at birth (against my > will, was told after the event!): has been ill twice > to date, once chicken pox at 12 months, and beginning > of the week flu with cold, started monday and by > wednesday afternoon he was fit enough to go to the > beach for a little while... > just two of many, many live proofs that life is easier > and healthier without vaccinations! > claudia > > ===== > see our new website! take part in our poll!!! http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/wiseone/allopathic.htm and > http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/wiseone/pollpage.htm > > It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; > what is essential is invisible to the eye. > -- Antoine de Saint-Exupery, The Little Prince > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 LOL!!! Say that after a goat keeps you up bleating half the night because you moved her to a different pen, or you've walked a horse for 6 hours straight to stave off colic <which can be fatal in horses, different sort of thing that what human babies go through)! Seriously though... I LOVE my animals. Wouldn't trade em for the world, at least not most days! And I think the benefits that come from sharing a life with them are immense... Good luck finding something to fill your time. I don't know what I'd do with out my kids (and critters) around to keep me busy. Maybe that's why I have them around?? I'm one of those people that HAS to be doing something. My husband can sit and watch TV... me... I can sit and watch TV, but I'll have to be crocheting or reading a book, or cutting out fabric, or doing something else at the same time. Hey, maybe you could to some part time volunteer legal work for anti-vaccination, and pro parental rights groups!! Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: Ii Family To But now our son's in a private Montessori based school (absolutely loves it and doing well, thank you), but I'm well, bored to tears! So, I've decided to try to find something charitable and worthwhile to seek my teeth into. But, oh would I love to be in your shoes with the animals, etc. That's my kind of life! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 ROFLMAO!!! Oh man you guys are so bad... I love it. So nice to come someplace and find other people who make the same wise cracks as me... and UNDERSTAND why!! Liz RE: Report Backs Infant Vaccinations I think it would take a crowbar and the strength of Hercules. Sherri Garrett Garrett Medical Claims For more information email me at garrettmedclaims@... or call me toll free at 866-611-2485 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 <Raising hand> Oh, oh, oh!! Me!! One 4 year old who has never had an ear infection, had antibiotics once for strep throat and had a nasty reaction to them... hasn't had them since. He was unfortunately partially vaccinated <hanging head in shame> due to me still parenting as society said I 'should' instead of how my gut told me I should. He was however breastfed until he was more than 2 1/2 so I hope that helped some... And... one almost 19 month old who has not only never had an ear infection, antibiotics, vaccine or anything of that nature... he's never been to a standard medical doctor either!! He was born at home, sans medical personal and that's the way I'd like to keep his life if at all possible!! Liz ----- Original Message ----- From: Sheri Nakken RARELY does a child EVER EVEN NEED an antibiotic. MOST of the children here who are not vaccinated have NEVER had an ear infection ro antibiotic! Let's hear it from some of you. > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 RARELY does a child EVER EVEN NEED an antibiotic. MOST of the children here who are not vaccinated have NEVER had an ear infection ro antibiotic! Let's hear it from some of you. Ok from me....My son is seven and has NEVER had an antibiotic!!!!And never will if i can help it. There are other methods Joanna > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2002 Report Share Posted February 23, 2002 My children have not been vaccinated and are ages 3 1/2 and 4 1/2 and they have never had an ear infection or serious illness. We are around a lot of children and constantly outside. We try to eat right, get plenty of sleep and exercise and try to be happy....what else do we need. I wish my mom knew what I do...and now I wish she'd listen. Margaret White Re: Report Backs Infant Vaccinations RARELY does a child EVER EVEN NEED an antibiotic. MOST of the children here who are not vaccinated have NEVER had an ear infection ro antibiotic! Let's hear it from some of you. Ok from me....My son is seven and has NEVER had an antibiotic!!!!And never will if i can help it. There are other methods Joanna > -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK $$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account vaccineinfo@... (go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail PO Box 1563 Nevada City CA 95959 530-740-0561 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 Weeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllll. To be honest, yes, my children have had " ear infections' and antibiotics. Altho I knew I didn't want the vaxxes, the rest of the natural health info was not able to be found too much at my library in '87(single mom). I never even knew my dd had infections til we had a well-baby check up and I dutifully gave her the prescription...every time. Then I found my book " How to Have a Healthy Child... " and asked the doc if she really needed the antibiotic. He admitted probably not. So never again did I accept the script and never again did he say she had one! HMMMM!!! My next child (single again)was milk intolerant and did have a very painful ear experience. I took the script,threw it away(my mother told chilren's services I didn't give my chilren their antibiotics so I accepted the script and what they didn't know wouldn't hurt us!) went to the chiro, went home, gave him a sip of beer(out of wine) and drank the rest. He finally slept peacefully and I finally got some sleep. That's all I had done b4 I met my dh and then we still used the chiro. This winter our 3rd child was in screaming pain because his ear hurt. He was 5 1/2 at the time and I allowed dh to give him numbing drops and the antibiotic(this happened late at night and there is no emergency chiropractor!). I didn't finish the doses and he started in again a few nights later with the other ear. Finished out the prescription this time along with chiropractic adjustment. Then a couple of months ago our 4th child, almost 4, was crying hysterically about his ear. Hubby said it was the worst infection he had ever seen and was afraid his ear drum was going to burst. He went to the office to get antibiotics and I put a few drops of my milk(still nursing their sister) in his ear and by the time hubby had gotten back, he said his ear was fine and hubby checked and was astounded to notice the swelling had gone down. So, when he complained about the other ear 3 nights later, dh asked if I was gonna put mm in his ear(our child even asked for it and had to fight his sister for what was left in the medicine spoon to drink!). In case this happens again, I am taking the HP class and eventually our new HP will have seen the children so I can call in case of emergency. And I still haven't bought my home kit but will as soon as we get our refund! So, that's a long story and I hate to disappoint but YES WE HAVE! had " ear infections " and used antibiotics. Laurie>Oh RARELY does a child EVER EVEN NEED an antibiotic. MOST of the children here who are not vaccinated have NEVER had an ear infection ro antibiotic! Let's hear it from some of you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 My dd is now 3 and has never had an ear infection. Alison, SaHM to still breast-fed, non-vaccinated, co-sleeping, acrobatic, talkative, intelligent, amazing cutie-pie, Calista, born 2-13-99 http://alison.htmlplanet.com --->my site http://calista.htmlplanet.com -->Calista's site On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 18:38:24 -0800 (PST) joanna athome <joanna_at_home@...> writes: > > > RARELY does a child EVER EVEN NEED an antibiotic. MOST of the > children > here who are not vaccinated have NEVER had an ear infection ro > antibiotic! > Let's hear it from some of you. > > > > Ok from me....My son is seven and has NEVER had an antibiotic!!!!And > never will if i can help it. There are other methods > > Joanna ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2002 Report Share Posted February 24, 2002 > My daughter is 2.8 and never had an ear infection or antibiotic. She is still breastfeeding, no vaccinationand co-sleeping with us...and bilingual. (my husband is american and I am from Spain). Her eyes glow!!!!!!!! montse From: Alison LeBoeuf <alison73@...> >Reply-Vaccinations >Vaccinations >Subject: Re: Report Backs Infant Vaccinations >Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 15:19:17 -0600 > >My dd is now 3 and has never had an ear infection. > >Alison, >SaHM to still breast-fed, non-vaccinated, co-sleeping, acrobatic, >talkative, intelligent, amazing cutie-pie, Calista, born 2-13-99 >http://alison.htmlplanet.com --->my site >http://calista.htmlplanet.com -->Calista's site > >On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 18:38:24 -0800 (PST) joanna athome ><joanna_at_home@...> writes: > > > > > > RARELY does a child EVER EVEN NEED an antibiotic. MOST of the > > children > > here who are not vaccinated have NEVER had an ear infection ro > > antibiotic! > > Let's hear it from some of you. > > > > > > > > Ok from me....My son is seven and has NEVER had an antibiotic!!!!And > > never will if i can help it. There are other methods > > > > Joanna >________________________________________________________________ >GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! >Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! >Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: >http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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