Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 I'm missing something here.....what is PICA? Loriann Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 Does this include licking things? has always " tasted " his environment. He used to get the biggest thrill out of licking the window of my truck. I couldn't keep it clean. Every now and then, he'll run over and lick something. He's been known to lick the van (usually the door), or strange people (strange as in people we don't know - makes for interesting first impressions) and shoes. Loriann Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 Sara, Looked at this site. They are quite costly! But for a family like mine who can hand down clothes is might not be so bad. PS Did you doubble post? Got this 2 times. & Garry, parents of (9), (8), JJ (6), (5), and Esther (3). All adopted & with Down Syndrome. ---------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 >>http://www.adrianscloset.com/ & Garry, parents of (9), (8), JJ (6), (5), and Esther (3). All adopted & with Down Syndrome. ---------- >From: SMILINGGAIL@... >onelist >Subject: Re: Pica >Date: Mon, Feb 14, 2000, 1:15 PM > >From: SMILINGGAIL@... > >Sara, > > That place will be a life saver! Doctor told me eating his poop won't >hurt anything as long as it is his own. HURTS ME TO CLEAN THE MESS. Doctors >wrong AGAIN! Thanks for the info > >Gail > >--------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 In laymans term--it is when our kids eat unusual and unedible things. Feces, bark, paint, dirt, etc. & Garry, parents of (9), (8), JJ (6), (5), and Esther (3). All adopted & with Down Syndrome. ---------- >From: " Lori " <hsmyangel@...> ><onelist> >Subject: Re: Pica >Date: Mon, Feb 14, 2000, 3:53 AM > >From: " Lori " <hsmyangel@...> > >I'm missing something here.....what is PICA? > >Loriann > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 , Guess I've met the class clown here huh? You sound just like me talking about Seth and his poop eating! lol I keep one piece outfits on Seth so he can't go up or down to get in. He hasn't learned to undress yet, so we're safe with that for now. Harder to keep him away from the walls, carpet and fireplace! Rochester did nothing to help with the Pica. Nor did the behavioral therapist. I found double doses of vitamins helped for a while, but he still had his favorites he couldn't stay away from! I will use your technique when Seth is too big for the onesies. Sounds like you have a great family! Any other tips you have, I'll take! :-) Gail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 Sara, That place will be a life saver! Doctor told me eating his poop won't hurt anything as long as it is his own. HURTS ME TO CLEAN THE MESS. Doctors wrong AGAIN! Thanks for the info Gail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 Hey, where's the site? I'd pay big bucks not to have to clean out another mouth! Gail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 In a message dated 2/14/0 2:41:26 PM, Midvale@... writes: << There is a company I have seen that sells onsies up to adult sizes!! It was one of the specialty clothing companies for people with disabilities. I think it was 's Closet but I can't remember for sure. >> It's Clothes for Special Children. I used to buy them all the time! Pam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 In a message dated 2/14/0 2:42:33 PM, Scherb@... writes: << Another thing to do is put on leotards before clothing. Or the type outfits the wrestlers wear >> My older daughter had a similar problem with tearing diapers off and eating poop or sticking diaper pieces up her nose and various other disgusting things. She could not wear shorts or go to bed without being completely covered. We did similar things except could not have snaps or closures of any type because she would rip those off too. We used onesies during the day and a unitard at night that came down to the ankle then a night shirt or shorts over it for extra protection. We were eventually able to wean her to regular night wear (still no closures) so there is hope. It took until she was 15 though. Pam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 Lori, lucky you! wish i didn't know what Pica was :-) It's when you eat things that are not normal to eat: soap, sand, dirt, POOP Gail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 15! I won't make it!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 In a message dated 2/14/2000 9:57:40 PM !!!First Boot!!!, hsmyangel@... writes: << I'm missing something here.....what is PICA? Loriann >> Loriann, PICA is when people eat things that aren't edible. Maddie has it too. She eats her own poop all the time, among numerous other things. It's kind of a joke at school that Maddie eats so much paint. Good thing it's non-toxic!!! This whole PICA thing drives me crazy. I mean, even aside from the eating poop stuff (and yes, I am SICK of cleaning it out of her mouth). The kid won't eat certain foods------is disgusted by them. But she'll eat the grossest stuff. She LOVES to lick the tires of a car..........or munch on dirt. Not that we LET her, naturally, but the kid is quicker than quick draw McGraw!!! Donna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 Donna, I love this place! never heard of another kid licking tires before. Seth can't pass a car without running his tongue down the side of it! Loves the tires especially! Gail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 lori, i have same question as you......ashton likes to lick windows and different textures....but has never ate anything........ she once licked a windmill in - temperature and got her tongue stuckkkk......... it was sad, but funny at the same time.... she didnt lick for a while after that.,,,,,,,,,,,leah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 There is a company I have seen that sells onsies up to adult sizes!! It was one of the specialty clothing companies for people with disabilities. I think it was 's Closet but I can't remember for sure. They even cut holes for G-Tubes. Sara >>> " Scherbert " <Scherb@...> - 02/14/0 8:55 AM >>> From: " Scherbert " <Scherb@...> Gail, What are you doing to address the pica behavior? JJ has never been dx'ed with pica but he could have been, I think..but what do I know! In May we took what for us was a drastic step to control JJ's poop eating. We starting sewing his clothes together at the waist! You can stop laughing now!!! Really this is what we do. We buy gripper snaps that are on tape(about $2.50 a yard) Cut the tape to 5 snaps, slit the back of the shirt just enough to put the snap strip in, and sew with a zipper foot. Then I sew the shirt to the pants. My boys wear undershirts in the winter, so sweats are sewn to undershirts. Then you can have some variey in outside shirts. But the teachers apparently never have seen undershirts before. He always comes home half dressed. In the warm weather(Summer it's about 110 here) i sew light pants to shirts. Shorts don't work--JJ just puts his hands up the legs. Blanket sleepers get put on backwards. Try to get the ones with out the feet. If they are footed you can cut them off, blanket sleeper material does not ravel. Another thing to do is put on leotards before clothing. Or the type outfits the wrestlers wear. Heard this can help with prevent mastribation. Haven't gone there yet and prefer to wait a few years. Do you have any ideas to share with us on this? & Garry, parents of (9), (8), JJ (6), (5), and Esther (3). All adopted & with Down Syndrome. --------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 There is a company I have seen that sells onsies up to adult sizes!! It was one of the specialty clothing companies for people with disabilities. I think it was 's Closet but I can't remember for sure. They even cut holes for G-Tubes. Sara >>> " Scherbert " <Scherb@...> - 02/14/0 8:55 AM >>> From: " Scherbert " <Scherb@...> Gail, What are you doing to address the pica behavior? JJ has never been dx'ed with pica but he could have been, I think..but what do I know! In May we took what for us was a drastic step to control JJ's poop eating. We starting sewing his clothes together at the waist! You can stop laughing now!!! Really this is what we do. We buy gripper snaps that are on tape(about $2.50 a yard) Cut the tape to 5 snaps, slit the back of the shirt just enough to put the snap strip in, and sew with a zipper foot. Then I sew the shirt to the pants. My boys wear undershirts in the winter, so sweats are sewn to undershirts. Then you can have some variey in outside shirts. But the teachers apparently never have seen undershirts before. He always comes home half dressed. In the warm weather(Summer it's about 110 here) i sew light pants to shirts. Shorts don't work--JJ just puts his hands up the legs. Blanket sleepers get put on backwards. Try to get the ones with out the feet. If they are footed you can cut them off, blanket sleeper material does not ravel. Another thing to do is put on leotards before clothing. Or the type outfits the wrestlers wear. Heard this can help with prevent mastribation. Haven't gone there yet and prefer to wait a few years. Do you have any ideas to share with us on this? & Garry, parents of (9), (8), JJ (6), (5), and Esther (3). All adopted & with Down Syndrome. --------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2000 Nope = But someone else gave you the address! Onesies lasted 5 years for me. I think they are worth it. unitards are also pretty expensive but readiy available in the sport/exercise section of places like Walmart and K=mart. Sara >>> " Scherbert " <Scherb@...> - 02/14/0 9:26 AM >>> From: " Scherbert " <Scherb@...> Sara, Looked at this site. They are quite costly! But for a family like mine who can hand down clothes is might not be so bad. PS Did you doubble post? Got this 2 times. & Garry, parents of (9), (8), JJ (6), (5), and Esther (3). All adopted & with Down Syndrome. ---------- --------------------------- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 15, 2000 In a message dated 2/15/2000 12:47:19 AM !!!First Boot!!!, SMILINGGAIL@... writes: << Donna, I love this place! never heard of another kid licking tires before. Seth can't pass a car without running his tongue down the side of it! Loves the tires especially! Gail >> LOL Yes, I tell Maddie all the time that we simply cannot let her eat roadkill....LOL Donna Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 15, 2000 Hi all, Did the kiddos with pica start out trying to eat stuff, or was it kinda gradual? licks things....dining room chair backs, bookshelves, outlets, and his hands....but the only thing I've noticed him trying to eat is a little dirt. The licking started with a pair of shoes. He is really impressed with the fact that he can poop in the toilet....hasn't tried to put it in his mouth, doesn't really try to reach down and touch. He was kinda leaning into things for awhile (but never would actually take off the diaper and touch himself). Thank you all, Ann with , and Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 15, 2000 > When I talk he >>sometimes tries to put his tongue to my mouth to " feel " it. VERY STRANGE! >Seth does a lot with his feet too. His hands are very sensitive, yet, he can >>hold them on heat and it doesn't burn him. Gail, Are we real sure Seth and JJ are not related. The more I hear about Seth the more like JJ he becomes. About the feet, JJ always has one in his lap at the table. He drags his sandwich between his toes and then eats it. His real favorite to so this to is spagetti!!! Just got pictures back yesterday, you can see the frosting from Essie's b'day cake on the bottom of his foot--haha! Likewise we do not have sleep problems with JJ. He is usually out by 6;30 and sleeps about 11 or 12 hours. Timmy is our sleep problem. Not dx'ed with autism but I am not so sure. & Garry, parents of (9), (8), JJ (6), (5), and Esther (3). All adopted & with Down Syndrome. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 15, 2000 hi Ann, For us, Seth started with licking things, but I don't think that starts the pica. I was told that's how they pattern senses? Seth does everything with his mouth...rolls balls, closes things, you name it--his tongue is on it! He even licks the water or juice out of his cup like a dog! When I talk he sometimes tries to put his tongue to my mouth to " feel " it. VERY STRANGE! Seth does a lot with his feet too. His hands are very sensitive, yet, he can hold them on heat and it doesn't burn him. He also has eaten cayenne pepper I have put on the walls to keep him from eating the plaster, and has NO reaction! Yet I can put an M & M in his mouth and he gags till he vomits. Go figure! I will still take the poop eating and licking the world rather than NO SLEEP like most of parents! Gail-mom to Seth-4, jo-7, -9,-22 and -24. Grandma to Errick-4 and wife of , My Hero Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 15, 2000 Ann , used to lickand as an infant would eat /suck stringy things ,grass,knitting wool etc,he has never eaten non edible items,he is 13 just,and will sitill lick sometimes but now it is more sort of feeling with his tongue than a prolonged licking session,his older brother DS no autism,will lick and sniff unfamiliar drinks and food before deciding if he wants it Pat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 15, 2000 Donna, Is Maddie into chewing socks? We have a tough time with Seth taking off his shoes and chewing his socks. He has tons of " chew socks " all over the house, but there is something about those dirty, smelly ones that appeal to him! Keeps his teeth clean since he doesn't stand for a toothbrush or anything Clean in his mouth! I've got to check out this tubing thing. Do you know if it's like the surgical tubing? We tried that and Seth prefers the socks. Tubing to " sterile " I guess! lol Gail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 15, 2000 In a message dated 2/15/0 9:59:40 AM, KenAnngerb@... writes: << licks things....dining room chair backs, bookshelves, outlets, and his hands....but the only thing I've noticed him trying to eat is a little dirt. >> Ann, Hannah licks her hands too. I have not met anyone else that does this until you. Sorry to get so excited to meet someone else with a weird habit. She also licks many of the things you mentioned and others. Hands are her personal favorite though--why not, they are always there. They have started some SI stuff at school with her hands to try to reduce this but old habits are hard to break. She also eats some things, like the plant dirt and yes, POOP. Pam Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
