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All military personnel are considered to have voluntarily surrendered

certain constitutional rights upon enlistment. For American servicemen,

that tends to include the general body of federal law too. Most recently I

had a new child, but could not take the 98' legislated allowing 12 weeks of

paternity leave. These thing have to be written into the military

regulation (that's one that probably won't happen).

However, it is emphasized to us (Air Force anyway) that we have a certain

amount of individual responsibility about following orders. If they are not

legal, it is our duty to refuse them; however, they are always considered to

be legal by default. We get yearly re-briefings about the law of armed

conflict (al'la Geneva convention), and how it's our responsibility to turn

our own people in for war crimes.

We always have a choice, but it is considered that when we signed in the

door, we marked off some of our options. Although we may say no to certain

things, we can get jailed or kicked out. After all, don't we all,

ultimately have the same choice in our everyday lives? By remaining

citizens of our own countries, we agree to not steal, kill, smoke pot, or

legally sanction same sex marriages. Other countries have different ideas.

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> My name is Tara and I live in Northern(ish) Canada.  My husband is a

> member of the Canadian Forces (Army) and I am presently going through

> recruitment procedures to join the army as well.  I'm horrified by the

> military's decision to inject it's members with a substance regardless of

> the individual's wishes.  Heaven knows the soldier already operates as

> half-machine, but how can they expect these men and women to just shut off

> all of their self-preservation instincts and accept something that may

> damage them indefinitely? 

> Our national military paper " The Maple Leaf " just published a paper with 3

> 1/2 pages devoted to the Anthrax vaccine.  The article was titled " Anthrax

> vaccine:  no risk for CF " and the other was titled " CF member speaks out

> about lumps, vaccine " (an attempt to sound unbiased I suppose - basically

> this guy has a lump in his arm that they will just cut out so hey, no big

> deal). 

> Has anyone on this list heard about Sgt. Kipling's court martial?  Any

> updates?

> Thanks,

> Tara

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Hi Pam ,Welcome These are the greatest group of parents , who love their

children and understanding what your going through.They have been such a help to

me,They are wise and really know the IN's and out's of OCD.Beth in IN.

new member

I am still trying to figure out how to e-mail this. We just got a computer

and I am still learning. We have just discovered that

our 13 year old has ocd. (After years of counseling for depression and

nothing more!) Alot I have read has already made

me feel there is hope. I am so glad there are other people out there that

know what we are going thru.

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Hi Pam, you did something right because your post appeared on the list! Welcome

to ocd and parenting, I hope the collected wisdom of the parents here is as

helpful to you as it has been to me.

Kathy R. in Indiana

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I am still trying to figure out how to e-mail this. We just got a computer

and I am still learning. We have just discovered that

our 13 year old has ocd. (After years of counseling for depression and

nothing more!) Alot I have read has already made

me feel there is hope. I am so glad there are other people out there that

know what we are going thru.

Pam/Min

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> Hi! I just wanted to say thank you for having this

> website for all. I have been searching the web since

> last year trying to find people to talk to as opposed to

> just information sites. Your letter was exactly like the

> one I composed a few months ago. Any new info. I receive

> I will let you know. I'm sure you've read about shark cartilage

> and mgn3 from Lane Labs. If not it's something else to research.

> My mom has been diagnosed with non small lung cancer in October

> l998. It has spread to her bones as well as her brain. She went

> the chemo./radiation route and was in bad shape. After researching

> the net I found Christian Bros., Oasis of Hope, Lane Labs, etc.

> and convinced her to go to Mexico and get treatment. She left here

> in a wheelchair (because of the wonders of chemo.) but after the

> Oasis of Hope and the loving, caring treatments of mind, body & soul

> they have given her after 15 days she came home walking. She never

> really got a time line from her doctor her but I know she is a stage

> IV and he probably was going to tell her she had 3 - 6 mos. if that.

> He cannot believe how great she is doing. I'm keeping up the

> research for her and all like her because sometimes you feel

> like you have gone as far as you can go but then something else

> comes along, like your website. I'm looking for a new doctor for

> her that can give her encouragement in the treatment she is now

> taking which is the laetrile, enzymes, shark cartilage, vitamins,

> essiac, etc. Her conventional doctor knows nothing about these

> subjects but she is afraid to change doctors because of all the

> medical records, etc. he has accumulated over the past year on her.

> If anyone knows of a doctor that they have used that is knowledgeable

> in both fields please let me know.

>

> Never Give Up. God Bless!

>

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where do you live.

Check out Burton Goldberg's book on Alt Medicine Definitive Guide to Cancer.

He lists a few of doctors who combine both.

Forsyth is Reno NV at 702-329-5000

Dan Labriola in Seattle WA at 206-285-4993

Rountree in Boulder CO at 303-499-9224

Melinda

www.cancure.org

Cancer Cure Foundation

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>> Hi! I just wanted to say thank you for having this

>> website for all. I have been searching the web since

>> last year trying to find people to talk to as opposed to

>> just information sites. Your letter was exactly like the

>> one I composed a few months ago. Any new info. I receive

>> I will let you know. I'm sure you've read about shark cartilage

>> and mgn3 from Lane Labs. If not it's something else to research.

>> My mom has been diagnosed with non small lung cancer in October

>> l998. It has spread to her bones as well as her brain. She went

>> the chemo./radiation route and was in bad shape. After researching

>> the net I found Christian Bros., Oasis of Hope, Lane Labs, etc.

>> and convinced her to go to Mexico and get treatment. She left here

>> in a wheelchair (because of the wonders of chemo.) but after the

>> Oasis of Hope and the loving, caring treatments of mind, body & soul

>> they have given her after 15 days she came home walking. She never

>> really got a time line from her doctor her but I know she is a stage

>> IV and he probably was going to tell her she had 3 - 6 mos. if that.

>> He cannot believe how great she is doing. I'm keeping up the

>> research for her and all like her because sometimes you feel

>> like you have gone as far as you can go but then something else

>> comes along, like your website. I'm looking for a new doctor for

>> her that can give her encouragement in the treatment she is now

>> taking which is the laetrile, enzymes, shark cartilage, vitamins,

>> essiac, etc. Her conventional doctor knows nothing about these

>> subjects but she is afraid to change doctors because of all the

>> medical records, etc. he has accumulated over the past year on her.

>> If anyone knows of a doctor that they have used that is knowledgeable

>> in both fields please let me know.

>>

>> Never Give Up. God Bless!

>>

>> Giorlando

>>

>>

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> Some of ou may want to respond to

>

> new member

>

>

>> Hi! I just wanted to say thank you for having this

>> website for all. I have been searching the web since

>> last year trying to find people to talk to as opposed to

>> just information sites. Your letter was exactly like the

>> one I composed a few months ago. Any new info. I receive

>> I will let you know. I'm sure you've read about shark cartilage

>> and mgn3 from Lane Labs. If not it's something else to research.

>> My mom has been diagnosed with non small lung cancer in October

>> l998. It has spread to her bones as well as her brain. She went

>> the chemo./radiation route and was in bad shape. After researching

>> the net I found Christian Bros., Oasis of Hope, Lane Labs, etc.

>> and convinced her to go to Mexico and get treatment. She left here

>> in a wheelchair (because of the wonders of chemo.) but after the

>> Oasis of Hope and the loving, caring treatments of mind, body & soul

>> they have given her after 15 days she came home walking. She never

>> really got a time line from her doctor her but I know she is a stage

>> IV and he probably was going to tell her she had 3 - 6 mos. if that.

>> He cannot believe how great she is doing. I'm keeping up the

>> research for her and all like her because sometimes you feel

>> like you have gone as far as you can go but then something else

>> comes along, like your website. I'm looking for a new doctor for

>> her that can give her encouragement in the treatment she is now

>> taking which is the laetrile, enzymes, shark cartilage, vitamins,

>> essiac, etc. Her conventional doctor knows nothing about these

>> subjects but she is afraid to change doctors because of all the

>> medical records, etc. he has accumulated over the past year on her.

>> If anyone knows of a doctor that they have used that is knowledgeable

>> in both fields please let me know.

>>

>> Never Give Up. God Bless!

>>

>> Giorlando

>>

>>

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Kares: where are you located? There is a book called Third Opinion that

lists alternative doctors/clinics all over U.S. and the world. The author'

last name is fink. You can orderit at amazon.com it's only about $12 I

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Third Opinion is also available through

http://www.realityzone.com/thirdopinion.html for $16.95.

Melinda

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>> new member

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>>

>>> Hi! I just wanted to say thank you for having this

>>> website for all. I have been searching the web since

>>> last year trying to find people to talk to as opposed to

>>> just information sites. Your letter was exactly like the

>>> one I composed a few months ago. Any new info. I receive

>>> I will let you know. I'm sure you've read about shark cartilage

>>> and mgn3 from Lane Labs. If not it's something else to research.

>>> My mom has been diagnosed with non small lung cancer in October

>>> l998. It has spread to her bones as well as her brain. She went

>>> the chemo./radiation route and was in bad shape. After researching

>>> the net I found Christian Bros., Oasis of Hope, Lane Labs, etc.

>>> and convinced her to go to Mexico and get treatment. She left here

>>> in a wheelchair (because of the wonders of chemo.) but after the

>>> Oasis of Hope and the loving, caring treatments of mind, body & soul

>>> they have given her after 15 days she came home walking. She never

>>> really got a time line from her doctor her but I know she is a stage

>>> IV and he probably was going to tell her she had 3 - 6 mos. if that.

>>> He cannot believe how great she is doing. I'm keeping up the

>>> research for her and all like her because sometimes you feel

>>> like you have gone as far as you can go but then something else

>>> comes along, like your website. I'm looking for a new doctor for

>>> her that can give her encouragement in the treatment she is now

>>> taking which is the laetrile, enzymes, shark cartilage, vitamins,

>>> essiac, etc. Her conventional doctor knows nothing about these

>>> subjects but she is afraid to change doctors because of all the

>>> medical records, etc. he has accumulated over the past year on her.

>>> If anyone knows of a doctor that they have used that is knowledgeable

>>> in both fields please let me know.

>>>

>>> Never Give Up. God Bless!

>>>

>>> Giorlando

>>>

>>>

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To Giorlando, thanks for sharing your Mom's info with all of us. You

ask for Physician's, LIFE EXTENTION FOUNDATION,995 SW 24th St.,Fort

Lauderdale,Fl.33315 has a phone no. " Ask for a listing of innovative

physicians in your area who may be able to help you implement an

alternative theraphy cancer program " 1-800-544-4440. They have books for

sale on this, but were nice enough to give the names of Doctor's in my area

over the phone. They publish very prestigious Health Publications on

Alternatives and have protocols on research . Life Extentions is familiar

with the work in the Mexico Clinics and the Drugs used there, according to

my understanding. Blessings be with you.Liz

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>>>> Hi! I just wanted to say thank you for having this

>>>> website for all. I have been searching the web since

>>>> last year trying to find people to talk to as opposed to

>>>> just information sites. Your letter was exactly like the

>>>> one I composed a few months ago. Any new info. I receive

>>>> I will let you know. I'm sure you've read about shark cartilage

>>>> and mgn3 from Lane Labs. If not it's something else to research.

>>>> My mom has been diagnosed with non small lung cancer in October

>>>> l998. It has spread to her bones as well as her brain. She went

>>>> the chemo./radiation route and was in bad shape. After researching

>>>> the net I found Christian Bros., Oasis of Hope, Lane Labs, etc.

>>>> and convinced her to go to Mexico and get treatment. She left here

>>>> in a wheelchair (because of the wonders of chemo.) but after the

>>>> Oasis of Hope and the loving, caring treatments of mind, body & soul

>>>> they have given her after 15 days she came home walking. She never

>>>> really got a time line from her doctor her but I know she is a stage

>>>> IV and he probably was going to tell her she had 3 - 6 mos. if that.

>>>> He cannot believe how great she is doing. I'm keeping up the

>>>> research for her and all like her because sometimes you feel

>>>> like you have gone as far as you can go but then something else

>>>> comes along, like your website. I'm looking for a new doctor for

>>>> her that can give her encouragement in the treatment she is now

>>>> taking which is the laetrile, enzymes, shark cartilage, vitamins,

>>>> essiac, etc. Her conventional doctor knows nothing about these

>>>> subjects but she is afraid to change doctors because of all the

>>>> medical records, etc. he has accumulated over the past year on her.

>>>> If anyone knows of a doctor that they have used that is knowledgeable

>>>> in both fields please let me know.

>>>>

>>>> Never Give Up. God Bless!

>>>>

>>>> Giorlando

>>>>

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Welcome aboard!!!!!

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> I am glad to become a member of this group. I am retired USN and very

interested

> in this problem. A news item from vets about too many shots for animals

> and that it overstimulates the immune system. Just like the anthrax shots

> Also Adjuvants are used to extend life of vaccines. A lot of this seems to

> like the problems in the anthrax shots. Have another package to work up

> for my congressmen. Hope something comes of this. Have to get used to

> the line feeds and post stuff. Thanks for letting me in.

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DJ,

Maybe it is worth looking at http://www.csct.com/ Good luck

FM

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Hi - My name is Dwight and my wife has been fighting ovarian cancer for

the past 2 1/2 years. She has had the debulking surgery, 6 months of

chemo, second look surgery and still showed traces of cancer. Then she

went for the high dose chemo with bone marrow transplant and 6 months

later she still has cancer and it appears to be growing. She has done

the vitamin routine which did not work and she continus to look for

somethig that will work. Any suggestions that might help her.

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You did not mention what vitamins and for how long. You need to really go

after building up her immune system. This will be difficult since the chemo

suppresses the immune system. There are some good books and sites. Juicing

is a great way to get nutrients in her from whole foods. A person could

never eat as many as they can drink.

Also check out these sites. Both have good success stories and how they got

there.

www.drday.com/

http://essiac-info.org/Bob.html

Dr. n Whitaker also has some good paperbacks and newsletters and

most seem to agree with these other sites.

www.Dr.Whitaker.com

It takes a lot of research to know what to try. You will need to take a

protocol that you can afford in both time and finaces and aggressively stick

to it. Above all have faith.

Others have beat it when the doctors said it was all over.

Read the book on Essiac tea. " The ESSIAC Report' by .

Available at most health food stores.

Also, keep in mind the Chemo may have wiped out the effects of any vitamins

she was taking. I would not give up on them and the herbs. I strongly

believe in the health

oriented doctors who try to get the body in balance and let it heal itself.

Good luck

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> Hi - My name is Dwight and my wife has been fighting ovarian cancer for

> the past 2 1/2 years. She has had the debulking surgery, 6 months of

> chemo, second look surgery and still showed traces of cancer. Then she

> went for the high dose chemo with bone marrow transplant and 6 months

> later she still has cancer and it appears to be growing. She has done

> the vitamin routine which did not work and she continus to look for

> somethig that will work. Any suggestions that might help her.

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Find out about supplements and have her take as much as she can (e.g.,

vitamins A, B, C etc- exceed the daily recommended doses,...find out about

all cancer fighting supplements-IP-6, shark cartilage,cat's claw,Essaic

tea....take Whey Protein shakes- to stay strong, chemo killed alot of the

good flora in the body-use supplements to restore good bacteria, help her

with hypnosis...talk her through relaxation and while relaxed suggest that

she will beat this(the stronger you both believe it to be true the better

the results), investigate electromedicine-my friend has used zapper-bought

magnetic pulser but have not used it, investigate colloidal silver-have

heard good things about it, read Hulda 's book-liver flushes, parasite

removal therapies-my friend has used many of 's recommendations)

Work fast. Learn fast. Try all that is safe(everthing mentioned above, not

sure about colloidal silver or pulser) as soon as possible. Engulf

yourselves with a positive attitude. Stay strong with supplements.

Good luck to both of you.

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> Hi - My name is Dwight and my wife has been fighting ovarian cancer for

> the past 2 1/2 years. She has had the debulking surgery, 6 months of

> chemo, second look surgery and still showed traces of cancer. Then she

> went for the high dose chemo with bone marrow transplant and 6 months

> later she still has cancer and it appears to be growing. She has done

> the vitamin routine which did not work and she continus to look for

> somethig that will work. Any suggestions that might help her.

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> Thanks Call me DJ

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> Hi - My name is Dwight and my wife has been fighting ovarian cancer for

> the past 2 1/2 years. She has had the debulking surgery, 6 months of

> chemo, second look surgery and still showed traces of cancer. Then she

> went for the high dose chemo with bone marrow transplant and 6 months

> later she still has cancer and it appears to be growing. She has done

> the vitamin routine which did not work and she continus to look for

> somethig that will work. Any suggestions that might help her.

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Monovalent vaccines are in their infancy and have not much success.

Contact Vicent Gamill D.S.C.(619)793-0293 or (619)792 2604.

Klaus

Klaus de Albuquerque albuquerque@...

Professor Office: (843) 953-8183

Sociology and Anthropology Home: (843) 723-7770

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They have a toll-free number. 1-877-741-2728 and (519) 742-5155. Good luck

Federico

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Hi - My name is Dwight and my wife has been fighting ovarian cancer for

the past 2 1/2 years. She has had the debulking surgery, 6 months of

chemo, second look surgery and still showed traces of cancer. Then she

went for the high dose chemo with bone marrow transplant and 6 months

later she still has cancer and it appears to be growing. She has done

the vitamin routine which did not work and she continus to look for

somethig that will work. Any suggestions that might help her.

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What kind of nutrition therapy have you tried?

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> Maybe it is worth looking at http://www.csct.com/ Good luck

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> FM

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> Hi - My name is Dwight and my wife has been fighting ovarian cancer for

> the past 2 1/2 years. She has had the debulking surgery, 6 months of

> chemo, second look surgery and still showed traces of cancer. Then she

> went for the high dose chemo with bone marrow transplant and 6 months

> later she still has cancer and it appears to be growing. She has done

> the vitamin routine which did not work and she continus to look for

> somethig that will work. Any suggestions that might help her.

>

> Thanks Call me DJ

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Federico:

Do you know where in Mexico they are. Where can a contact them directly

because I mailed them time ago and haven't got an answer.

Thanks,

ML

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Fecha: Lunes 8 de Noviembre de 1999 7:12 AM

Asunto: Re: New member

DJ,

Maybe it is worth looking at http://www.csct.com/ Good luck

FM

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Hi - My name is Dwight and my wife has been fighting ovarian cancer for

the past 2 1/2 years. She has had the debulking surgery, 6 months of

chemo, second look surgery and still showed traces of cancer. Then she

went for the high dose chemo with bone marrow transplant and 6 months

later she still has cancer and it appears to be growing. She has done

the vitamin routine which did not work and she continus to look for

somethig that will work. Any suggestions that might help her.

Thanks Call me DJ

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With any type of special schooling there comes a long commitment and thus he

will be in the military when all of us will have to be vaccinated. Unless

this program is stopped. Has he looked into the other programs such as the

public health scholarships, they also have long commitments but one would

not be in the military. Thus would not be subject to the vaccination unless

the rules for who is to take it change to include civilians within the US.

Dave

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From: " Ann Olivier " <annolivier@...>

Two days ago my fiance' and I found out that he got a scholarship into the

Air Force Dental Corps program. I heard about the vaccine on the news and

was wondering what the current status is concerning the mandatory

immunizations. I am very concerned for his health and do not want to enter

the military if he will be forced to take the shots. Please give me your

thoughts and opinions on this matter. Thank you! Ann

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Can't really recommend anything, but will tell you that I know of someone who

was cured with Shark Cartilege - Benefin. She did not have surgery, rad or

chemo. I also know someone who was cured with the strongest dose of chemo

possible. She had it 2x's. She had a heart attack and they almost lost her

to anemia, but eventually pulled thru. It's been about 5-6 years without

recurrence.

Also follow all of the alternative protocols.

Coffee enemas (I know, ugh) Also enzyme therapy. Keep up immune system

with nutritional supplements. Seems to be a strong factor.

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Hi,

Welcome to the list. You surely will get some questions asnwered and most

probably will end up having even more! I'm sorry to hear of your mother -

it is most difficult to care for a parent and kids while being sick

yourself. I know because I'm in same position, and wonder if I will ever

be able to take care of myself!! What kind of a program are you in at

OSU? Have a net friend who goes there for lupus/wengers and likes it far

more than CLeveland Clinic; it sounds like you are in good hands. Will you

keep us updated on your progress there?

take care,

Christie

>Hi my name is Terrie and I'm a new member. I'm 31, and have three kids. I

>have FMS, MPS, CFS, TMJ, IBS, migraines and just about everything else.

>hehhee I live near Columbus, Ohio and have just signed up for an experiment

>to be done at OSU. I haven't yet been accepted, but am waiting to hear the

>word from them. So far, I had to go through a screening of different

>questions. I've also got a pending case w/SSD. Some of the best news I've

>had in a long time was almost after a year's time, my doc's office has

>completed paperwork for me to be accepted into a free med program. Through

>all this turmoil, my mother was diagnosed in June w/terminal cancer. So,

the

>upcoming months are starting to really wear on me. I'm looking forward to

>hearing some views of others on their " guinea pig " status.

>

>Hugs,

>Terrie in Ohio

>

>>This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

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Welcome Michele!!

Our most important rule here is to remember to take care of yourself! I

have 3 ocd and depressed kids - and they definatly can be overwhelming!! I

like to use a lot of humour, cognitive behavioural therapy and following my

instinct!

Where are you? Is your 8yo receiving treatment for her ocd?

once again, welcome aboard!!

wendy in canada

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Wow! Do you have a catalog available on-line? I got some emu oil once - not

made

into anything, just purified emu oil - very, very emollient. I use it as an eye

cream, and even rub it all around my eyes at night so that a little of it creeps

into my eyes - seems to help moisturize my eyes after having worn contacts all

day -

makes my eyes less red and irritated the next morning, anyway, than if I don't

use

anything at all!

TIA,

Love, Leora

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Hi Simon. I didn't see someone give you an answer so I'll offer a link

to my site: http://www.naturesapprentice.com/makesoap.htm

This will give you instructions & equipment info for making either cold

or hot process soap.

For other links, recipes, lye calculators, etc., go here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~wizardwiz/soap.htm

Hope this helps you.

Wiz

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> From: " SIMON CALEB " <simoncaleb@...>

>

> Let me introduce myself. My mane is Simon Caleb and I raise EMU, goats,

> sheep and quail. I have been interested in the soap making for a long time.

> So, since I get lots of EMU oil and people have told me how good the EMU oil

> soap is, I want to try and make some myself. Does anyone have a recipe for

> dummies. I want to just try it and see IF, I can do it and if I like doing

> it. I will also need to know the equipment, I will need to buy.

>

> Thanks

> Simon

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Hi Simon. I didn't see someone give you an answer so I'll offer a link

to my site: http://www.naturesapprentice.com/makesoap.htm

This will give you instructions & equipment info for making either cold

or hot process soap.

Wiz:

Thanks, I will go there and take a look.

Simon

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From: "Rashelle Haines" <rashelle@...>

Hi Maggie,

I just want to say Amen to everything you just said.

Too often we take our lives and all the incredible people and things around us for granted. Tami is a true inspiration to all of us. I get tears in my eyes when I think of her determination and dedication. I think you are all just so wonderful!

Rashelle

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From: magzz1@... Well...I am so far behind, miracles are happening in just a few hours!! I've been slogging through all the wonderful messages trying to get caught up for the last hour and in that time I've read about Tami's horrible experience, then her amazing determination to recover, then about her getting her computer to her while still in the hospital and NOW I read a message from her supporting OTHERS!! Tami, you are amazing and the Lord is good! I am so impressed with you and I thank God you are feeling so well. Please take care of yourself and continue to improve. We need you! It is so good to "see" you here again. Be well!MaggieIn a message dated Thu, 9 Mar 2000 2:45:02 PM Eastern Standard Time, Emailtamihere@... writes:> From: Emailtamihere@...> > Dear Shanni,> Welcome to the list, it is so wonderful that you have found this place of > supportive "breathers". I think that you will find this a very helpful and > uplifting site to be a part of. I will take a brief moment to reply to as > much of your message as I am able to at this time. First and most > importantly, is you really need to get a video of the program you choose to > have as your daily workout. This is really the only way to know if you're > getting the breath correct. Without the practicing the correct breathing > technique, it will be very difficult to see any results from these programs. > There are 3 main ones available, BodyFlex, Oxycize and Life Lift. I own them > all, but use the Life Lift plan, in that it is the only one that I was able > to attain results with. Not only that, the creator of LL is right here on > our board, ready to help and answer questions for those in need of help. > When I found this site, I was very disappointed and disillusioned buy the > whole breathing bit. I had been doing BF for quite a while, with no results. > That is when I had the good fortune to find out about Lift Lift(LL). After > lurking in the shadows for sometime, then asking many probing questions, I > ordered my LL video. That was the day everything started to change. I > cannot encourage you enough, to consider this program. Here is link to the > Life Lift web page, where you can browse, read and shop. > http://www.lifelift.com. Rashelle, unlike Greer, does not encourage dieting > of any sort. She is a real woman, who eats real food. She eats what she > likes, when she likes, and encourages us to do the same. Scary thought, I > know, but it is so wonderfully freeing when you realize that it really works. > It is not necessary to do any other form of exercise, in order reach your > goals, but it is fine, if you enjoy it. We also have another wonderful site > at onelist you may wish to sign up for, it is LifeLiftonelist. I hope > this helps and please feel free to email me personally if I can be of any > further assistance.> Sincerely,> Tami> "No matter how your heart is grieving, if you keep on believing, the dreams > that you wish will come true!"> > >

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Hi Kellie,

Welcome to our group!! Vasculitis is the inflammation of veins?? Or am I

totally wrong! LOL.... if it is veins then I have something similar...

If you are feeling up to it could you tell me abit more about it? And how it

has affected you?

Feel free to vent away and bitch about everything that gets to you, being

sick sure does that to you!!

Hope you are not feeling too sick today!

with love

Aisha.

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