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Report post · February 27, 2008

Hi all,

I'm a new member as well! I am also interested in this, so if anyone replies,

could you also include me in the email? (nicklz@...). I am a mom of 3

little ones (5, 3, 1) and work out of the home full time, but I am so sick of

corporate life. I would LOVE to learn how to make some products out of the home

(not necessarily to make money, but as a hobby to start).

Thanks in advance!

Regards,

Nichole

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From: " Danette " <cdccrobb93@...>

Hello. My name is Danette. I am married to my wonderful hard working

husband almost 15 yrs in May. We have to beautiful daughters ages 12

and 8. I am a stay at home mom and homeschooling mom from Meridian,Ms.

I am looking for extra activities for myself and for my children to

help me make to help supplement our income. My children are wanting to

go to Disney World this summer and I thought maybe bath salts would be

an easy activity for them to make and sell and have fun making them

since they love getting their hands in mixing things. I usually let

them mix cookie dough with their clean hands when we make cookies and

they love it. However, I really need to get some good bath salt recipes

that are easy to make for a 12 and 8 year old. Thanks in advance.

Danette

Report post · February 27, 2008

Hey Danette,

Welcome and here i s great recipe for salts to make with your children.

Bath Salts

4 cups Epsom salts

2 cups Sea salt

1 cup baking soda

2 cups oatmeal ground to a very fine powder in a food processor or

coffee grinder

2 oz. of your choice essential oil or scented oil.

Mix together all the dry ingredients in a large bowl.

Add the essential oil a little at a time. Make sure you thoroughly mixing it

through. You want the essential oil to be distributed as evenly as possible.

Pour salts into the container of your choice. I use tubes from Wholesale

Supplies plus.com.

They have great prices. I don't use dye in my products but you can do what you

like.

Hope that helped you

Enjoy,

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Report post · March 6, 2008

In a message dated 3/6/2008 1:07:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

jimokelly@... writes:

My daughter suffered disease, disability and death caused by the allopathic

profession.

Jim,

I'm so sorry to hear that happened to you. I don't know if this will

comfort you, but it sincerely is stories like yours and people like you that

have

saved my daughter from receiving any vaccines (or any allopathic care at all).

I thank God I learned the truth before she was born. Sorry for your loss,

and thank you for all you have done.

Holly

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Report post · March 6, 2008

>

> In a message dated 3/6/2008 1:07:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> jimokelly@... writes:

>

> My daughter suffered disease, disability and death caused by the

allopathic

> profession.

>

> Jim,

>

> I'm so sorry to hear that happened to you. I don't know if this

will

> comfort you, but it sincerely is stories like yours and people like

you that have

> saved my daughter from receiving any vaccines (or any allopathic

care at all).

> I thank God I learned the truth before she was born. Sorry for

your loss,

> and thank you for all you have done.

>

> Holly Thank you for your comment. Over the years I have turned many

people away from the allopath. If I didn't get into this battle than

she would have suffered and died under their care for nothing. Please

continue to educate those around you of the evils of allopathic drug

poisoning diguised as conventional health care.Thanks again for your

thought and contributions. Jim

>

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Report post · March 6, 2008

Hi Jim --

Welcome to the group and I'm so sorry about what happened to your DD.

I'm . I live in NY with DH and we have two partially vaxed kids - DS

in college, and DD in Middle school.

DS had a severe allergic reaction to DPT, which caused even our Ped to say

" we won't be doing that again! " Then in 9th grade, DS got whooping cough -

not that I realized it immediately as he was able to practice and play HS

lacrosse despite the cough. Probably took us about a month before I thought

he might need to see the Ped. Another live and learn. Thankfully the Ped

knows me well enough to know I'm not big on meds, so we did the nutrition

route - it took a while but it worked.

Plus, he was probably the only kid in town who got whooping cough (Ped said

it was going around) who wasn't fully vaxed -- another eye opener. Naive me

thought vaxs gave lifetime immunity.

Health & blessings,

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On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Jim O <jimokelly@...> wrote:

> Hi everyone

>

> I joined the group about a week ago. I live in Valparaiso IN. My daughter

> suffered disease, disability and death caused by the allopathic profession.

>

> I have been educating people for about 30 years on vaccines and allopathic

> drug poisioning.

>

> My organization is called S.I.N.B.A.D. Shots in bodies are dangerous.

>

> I am also the spokesperson for VacLib out of Idaho for my state.(

> vaclib.org)

>

> We are having a meeting on June 6th in Hobart IN.

>

> Anyone living in the N.W. Ind or Chicago area who would like to attend may

> call me at 219-462-1976

>

> To Sheri and all the group, keep up the good work.

>

> This vaccination insanity must stop ASAP.

>

> We must be like rocks. We may wear away but we are not going away.

>

> To quote Dr. Herbert Shelton " Let Us Have The Truth Though The Heavens

> Fall. "

>

> Have a Jim Dandy day, Jim

>

Report post · March 6, 2008

Re: new member

Take care Jim

Hi Jim --

Welcome to the group and I'm so sorry about what happened to your DD.

I'm . I live in NY with DH and we have two partially vaxed kids - DS

in college, and DD in Middle school.

DS had a severe allergic reaction to DPT, which caused even our Ped to say

" we won't be doing that again! " Then in 9th grade, DS got whooping cough -

not that I realized it immediately as he was able to practice and play HS

lacrosse despite the cough. Probably took us about a month before I thought

he might need to see the Ped. Another live and learn. Thankfully the Ped

knows me well enough to know I'm not big on meds, so we did the nutrition

route - it took a while but it worked.

Plus, he was probably the only kid in town who got whooping cough (Ped said

it was going around) who wasn't fully vaxed -- another eye opener. Naive me

thought vaxs gave lifetime immunity.

Health & blessings,

*We believe cleaning house shouldn't involve dirtying the Earth!*

http://www.shaklee. net/EcoClean/ getclean

Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Jim O <jimokelly (DOT) com> wrote:

> Hi everyone

>

> I joined the group about a week ago. I live in Valparaiso IN. My daughter

> suffered disease, disability and death caused by the allopathic profession.

>

> I have been educating people for about 30 years on vaccines and allopathic

> drug poisioning.

>

> My organization is called S.I.N.B.A.D. Shots in bodies are dangerous.

>

> I am also the spokesperson for VacLib out of Idaho for my state.(

> vaclib.org)

>

> We are having a meeting on June 6th in Hobart IN.

>

> Anyone living in the N.W. Ind or Chicago area who would like to attend may

> call me at 219-462-1976

>

> To Sheri and all the group, keep up the good work.

>

> This vaccination insanity must stop ASAP.

>

> We must be like rocks. We may wear away but we are not going away.

>

> To quote Dr. Herbert Shelton " Let Us Have The Truth Though The Heavens

> Fall. "

>

> Have a Jim Dandy day, Jim

>

Report post · March 7, 2008

Hi Jim --

I'm trying -- like I said, I've had a few eye openers. I didn't have polio

or whooping cough as a kid - I think I was vaxed for both - but I've had

most of the other things they vax for these days, and I survived.

Enjoy the group, Sheri has great info on here.

Health & blessings,

*We believe cleaning house shouldn't involve dirtying the Earth!

*http://www.shaklee.net/EcoClean/getclean

Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail.

Hi

Nice to hear from you. Sounds like your on the right tract with your

children.

Whooping cough, my brother had several years before I was born. I had it

when I was 8 or 9.

On both occasions my mother put us in bed untill we coughed ourselves well.

Never saw a Dr.

Take care Jim

Report post · March 13, 2008

Welcome - I alos just joined a few days ago. There is alot of information out

there and it can be overwhelming, scary and depressing but I know how important

it is to educate ourselves.

I have 2 kids agea 3 1/2 and 18 months. They both are up to date on their shots

but my 18 months old is missing 2 from his 15 month set along with the MMR. I

think I will also refuse the MMR but I am not sure. I have considered doing a

slower schedule for him and using some homeopathic drops my ND gave me as some

extra precautions. My cirumstances are a little different as my hubby is

overseas and we HAVE to get the vaccines for us to be able to join him.

I share in you fear of the vaccines yet I also am not sure i totally oppose

them. I however, so not doubt they can cause seriously and life threatening

problems. My heart goes out to everyone affected by these. I jsut do not like

my other option of not vaccinating against some pretty nasty diseases. I am

trying to find some sort of happy medium to take precautions to try to reduce

the risk of ill effects to my children. However, I am not sure if ther eis a

happy medium.....I am still on the hunt!!!!

Stay close and we can all get through this together.

Much Love,

Beth

New Member

Hello, I am a first time mom to a 14 month old baby girl and am jut

beginning my journey of all the research on vaccines I could find. I

am not truly against vaccines nor am I totally for them, I just wish

more pediatricians out there were a little more sensitive to a parents

choice to vaccinate or not. My daughter is up to date on her shots

except for the good ol MMR. I REFUSE to get her that one. I have one

regret and that is, I wished I had waited until after her 1st birthday

to begin immunizations. I feel as though I overloaded her tiny little

body with so many toxins,that I could never forgive myself for this.

Thank the Lord, at this point she is fine. My biggest fear is that

later on something happens to her. What, I don't know, but I do know

how smart she is now and fast she learned to do so many things at such

early an early age. I have yet to become more well-informed, and just

from the looks of it, this group will do exactly that! Thank you and

God bless!

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Report post · March 13, 2008

Hi, Beth. There is a lot of information out there and it can be overwhelming.

The best advice I can give is to consider the source. The drug companies, and

unfortunately our government, are handsomely paid to convince us that vaccines

are safe and effective. I don't believe either to be true and I also don't think

there is a happy medium. But that opinion has come over time.

No parent really wants their child to be sick, even when we know they'll be

stronger for it. Breastfeeding them for as long as possible, limiting sugary

foods, keeping young babies away from others who are sick, and avoiding vaccines

and antibiotics (unless truly necessary) is probably the best recipe I can come

up with to keep them healthy. If they do get sick, I have an arsenal of

homeopathic meds and other natural meds on hand. It's worked for me for about 15

years, with some scary moments but nothing my instincts didn't guide me through.

You'll find your comfort zone, too.

I do have a question. Why do you have to get vaccines to join your husband? Who

told you that?

Winnie

New Member

>

> Hello, I am a first time mom to a 14 month old baby girl and am

> jut

> beginning my journey of all the research on vaccines I could

> find. I

> am not truly against vaccines nor am I totally for them, I just

> wish

> more pediatricians out there were a little more sensitive to a

> parents

> choice to vaccinate or not. My daughter is up to date on her

> shots

> except for the good ol MMR. I REFUSE to get her that one. I have

> one

> regret and that is, I wished I had waited until after her 1st

> birthday

> to begin immunizations. I feel as though I overloaded her tiny

> little

> body with so many toxins,that I could never forgive myself for

> this.

> Thank the Lord, at this point she is fine. My biggest fear is

> that

> later on something happens to her. What, I don't know, but I do

> know

> how smart she is now and fast she learned to do so many things

> at such

> early an early age. I have yet to become more well-informed, and

> just

> from the looks of it, this group will do exactly that! Thank you

> and

> God bless!

>

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Report post · March 13, 2008

Winnie,

Thank you for your support. I am blessed to have found this group.

I do want to make sure I point out 1 thing. I can not breastfeed. Neither of

my 2 kids were and any future kids will not be. I know this is said to build

thier immune system but it is not an option for me. I do however take the other

precautions. I have my kids eat fairly healthy and limit thier sugar. Although

we do not totally avoid it. I also do not give them antibiotics or cold

medicines alot. My oldest has had an antibiotic only twice. And my youngest

has only been on antibiotics 1. Actually just in Nov. for a serious ear

infection. It was his first one, he was 15 months old.

The reason I believe we can not go overseas is because my hubby works for the

govt. They have to clear us to go over. PLus, I know diseases over there are

much more known than in the US. This scares me. Anyways, he said he was told

that it is our legal choice not to vaccine but it is thier legal choice to not

clear us to go. Any idea about this???

Do you not think doing a slower vax is better than doing it all at once??? How

about using a homeopathic drops to help with the ill effects?? I jsut think if

one has to do them, these would be good precautions to try to take.

Thanks for all your help. I am very overwhelmed right now. I am scared to vax

and scared not too....

Much Love,

Beth

New Member

>

> Hello, I am a first time mom to a 14 month old baby girl and am

> jut

> beginning my journey of all the research on vaccines I could

> find. I

> am not truly against vaccines nor am I totally for them, I just

> wish

> more pediatricians out there were a little more sensitive to a

> parents

> choice to vaccinate or not. My daughter is up to date on her

> shots

> except for the good ol MMR. I REFUSE to get her that one. I have

> one

> regret and that is, I wished I had waited until after her 1st

> birthday

> to begin immunizations. I feel as though I overloaded her tiny

> little

> body with so many toxins,that I could never forgive myself for

> this.

> Thank the Lord, at this point she is fine. My biggest fear is

> that

> later on something happens to her. What, I don't know, but I do

> know

> how smart she is now and fast she learned to do so many things

> at such

> early an early age. I have yet to become more well-informed, and

> just

> from the looks of it, this group will do exactly that! Thank you

> and

> God bless!

>

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Report post · March 13, 2008

Hi, Beth. If you can't breastfeed, you can't. That's okay, you just do your best

with what you can. And, yes, I do think if you vaccinate on a slower paced

schedule it's better that slamming them all at once. Certainly using

homeopathics is a good idea, too. You mentioned an ear infection at 15 months.

Was he vaccinated just before that? Kids do get ear infections for other reasons

but it's a thought.

It sounds as if you're stuck in between a rock and a hard place with the

government giving you ultimatums. Maybe someone else has an idea about that. I

know I just wouldn't go but that's because I'm sure of how I feel about

vaccines.

As time goes by, you won't be as scared about which way to go with vaccines.

Just get informed and trust your judgment.

Winnie

New Member

> >

> > Hello, I am a first time mom to a 14 month old baby girl and

> am

> > jut

> > beginning my journey of all the research on vaccines I could

> > find. I

> > am not truly against vaccines nor am I totally for them, I

> just

> > wish

> > more pediatricians out there were a little more sensitive to a

> > parents

> > choice to vaccinate or not. My daughter is up to date on her

> > shots

> > except for the good ol MMR. I REFUSE to get her that one. I

> have

> > one

> > regret and that is, I wished I had waited until after her 1st

> > birthday

> > to begin immunizations. I feel as though I overloaded her tiny

> > little

> > body with so many toxins,that I could never forgive myself for

> > this.

> > Thank the Lord, at this point she is fine. My biggest fear is

> > that

> > later on something happens to her. What, I don't know, but I

> do

> > know

> > how smart she is now and fast she learned to do so many things

> > at such

> > early an early age. I have yet to become more well-informed,

> and

> > just

> > from the looks of it, this group will do exactly that! Thank

> you

> > and

> > God bless!

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________

> _Be a better friend, newshound, and

> > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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> >

Report post · March 13, 2008

Winnie,

Thanks again for your uplifting email. It helps to be in contact wiht others

and to continue to get support.

I am getting read to read a book by Dr. Sears on a slower process of vaccines.

Also, thanks for the okay on not breastfeeding. It has always bothered me a

little but my kids are healthy. No, he did not get the ear infetion after

shots. He had shots at 12 months and this happened 3 months, almost 4 months

later. Maybe it could have been but I think he just had an ear infection. He

recovered nicely and is doing great!!!!

Much Love,

Beth

New Member

> >

> > Hello, I am a first time mom to a 14 month old baby girl and

> am

> > jut

> > beginning my journey of all the research on vaccines I could

> > find. I

> > am not truly against vaccines nor am I totally for them, I

> just

> > wish

> > more pediatricians out there were a little more sensitive to a

> > parents

> > choice to vaccinate or not. My daughter is up to date on her

> > shots

> > except for the good ol MMR. I REFUSE to get her that one. I

> have

> > one

> > regret and that is, I wished I had waited until after her 1st

> > birthday

> > to begin immunizations. I feel as though I overloaded her tiny

> > little

> > body with so many toxins,that I could never forgive myself for

> > this.

> > Thank the Lord, at this point she is fine. My biggest fear is

> > that

> > later on something happens to her. What, I don't know, but I

> do

> > know

> > how smart she is now and fast she learned to do so many things

> > at such

> > early an early age. I have yet to become more well-informed,

> and

> > just

> > from the looks of it, this group will do exactly that! Thank

> you

> > and

> > God bless!

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________

> _Be a better friend, newshound, and

> > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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> >

Report post · March 14, 2008

FYI, you do not have to vaccinate to go overseas.

I used to travel all over the world for government business and

vaccines never not once came up.

Bottom line is illnesses aren't worse in other countries santitation

and clean water are the issues, depending on the counties you are

going to, first world countries this is pretty much a non issue, esp

if he is working for the govt or the military they have these issues

sorted out for you, regardless of the country you are in and it's

economic status, so I really wouldn't worry about it.

Hope this helps.

>

> Winnie,

>

> Thank you for your support. I am blessed to have found this group.

>

> I do want to make sure I point out 1 thing. I can not breastfeed.

Neither of my 2 kids were and any future kids will not be. I know

this is said to build thier immune system but it is not an option for

me. I do however take the other precautions. I have my kids eat

fairly healthy and limit thier sugar. Although we do not totally

avoid it. I also do not give them antibiotics or cold medicines alot.

My oldest has had an antibiotic only twice. And my youngest has only

been on antibiotics 1. Actually just in Nov. for a serious ear

infection. It was his first one, he was 15 months old.

>

> The reason I believe we can not go overseas is because my hubby

works for the govt. They have to clear us to go over. PLus, I know

diseases over there are much more known than in the US. This scares

me. Anyways, he said he was told that it is our legal choice not to

vaccine but it is thier legal choice to not clear us to go. Any idea

about this???

>

> Do you not think doing a slower vax is better than doing it all at

once??? How about using a homeopathic drops to help with the ill

effects?? I jsut think if one has to do them, these would be good

precautions to try to take.

>

> Thanks for all your help. I am very overwhelmed right now. I am

scared to vax and scared not too....

>

> Much Love,

> Beth

>

> New Member

> >

> > Hello, I am a first time mom to a 14 month old baby girl and am

> > jut

> > beginning my journey of all the research on vaccines I could

> > find. I

> > am not truly against vaccines nor am I totally for them, I just

> > wish

> > more pediatricians out there were a little more sensitive to a

> > parents

> > choice to vaccinate or not. My daughter is up to date on her

> > shots

> > except for the good ol MMR. I REFUSE to get her that one. I have

> > one

> > regret and that is, I wished I had waited until after her 1st

> > birthday

> > to begin immunizations. I feel as though I overloaded her tiny

> > little

> > body with so many toxins,that I could never forgive myself for

> > this.

> > Thank the Lord, at this point she is fine. My biggest fear is

> > that

> > later on something happens to her. What, I don't know, but I do

> > know

> > how smart she is now and fast she learned to do so many things

> > at such

> > early an early age. I have yet to become more well-informed, and

> > just

> > from the looks of it, this group will do exactly that! Thank you

> > and

> > God bless!

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Be

a better friend, newshound, and

> > know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

> > http://mobile. / ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ

> >

Report post · March 14, 2008

Beth,

I can't say it enough - you have to learn about the diseases so you won't have

fear of them

What diseases do you fear?

And you keep talking about homeopathic drops.

I am a homeopath - there is no such thing that will work. I'm sure someone

sells such things, but that does not mean they work.

What is in those drops? Please tell me.

There is NO guarantee that slower is safer. As many have said here, one vaccine

can be the straw that breaks the camel's back. You have to research the

government forcing you to vaccinate issue. But I can't see how anyone can be

forced if they are not the employee (and in most cases the employee also cannot

be forced)

Are you hearing me here?

Sheri

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