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Kathleen

I have an 9 1/2 year old autistic daughter and I did not have any of the

items on that list.

Tracey

kathleenstokes2000 wrote:

> Dear Group:

> Maybe an important question: Did any of you mothers of girls

> with autism have any of the following during pregnancy:

> 1. Interuterine Growth Restriction (baby didn't grow normally)

> 2. Migraine headaches

> 3. Urinary tract infection

> 4. Weight loss during pregnancy

> 5. Pitocin, or other inducing drugs during labor

> 6. Prolonged labor

> 7. Prolonged prodomal labor (non-productive, before actual

> dilating labor commenced)

> 8. Muconeum present at birth of child

> 9. Lower APGAR scores for child

>

> Thank you in advance for your responses.

>

> Kathleen Stokes

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- My 3 week old was 9lbs 3oz and would of hurt coming out but I had an

epidural and couldn't feel it!Ha! He was also forceps delivery.

By the way, my autistic daughter was the least invasive of my deliveries!

She is autistic and none of my others are, well, all are well past the age

of becoming autistic except my baby.

ElaineF

> My daughter, , was 9lbs.,3oz. at birth and really hurt coming out

> (:

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Hello--

My autisic daughter is adopted so I can't help much. I do know

she went into labor 6 weeks early and the drs. gave her

something to stop the labor til she was due and weight 6

pounds something. Two of my natural sons pitocin was used,

prolonged labor and prolonged prodomal labor and both had

good weight. Neither have any problems (now 15 & 19) except

they are teenages.

Hello-

My autisic daughter is adopted so I don't have a lot to go on. I do

know she went into labor early. It was stop and then she was

delieverd regulary. Two of my natural sons were delieverd with

pitocin and had long hard labors. The only thing with them is

they are teenage boys (15 & 19) Hope it helps.

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Kathleen,

I have a 7yr old autistic daughter, here in the UK.

She had a straight forward delivery, no interventions. Also 9lb 3oz, following a

3 1/4 hour labour. Only gas and air for the pushing stage., which only lasted 15

minutes. She was fully breastfed up until one year of age and we stopped this

just 3 weeks prior to her receiving the MMR.

I would like to add, that she has been seen by The Royal Free Hospital, London

and she has Ileal Lymphonodular Hyperplasia, Leaky Gut and the measles virus has

also been found in the bowel tissue. We now have Solicitors fighting our case.

Carol (Mum to Joanne)

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Kathleen

I have an 9 1/2 year old autistic daughter and I did not have any of the

items on that list.

Tracey

kathleenstokes2000 wrote:

> Dear Group:

> Maybe an important question: Did any of you mothers of girls

> with autism have any of the following during pregnancy:

> 1. Interuterine Growth Restriction (baby didn't grow normally)

> 2. Migraine headaches

> 3. Urinary tract infection

> 4. Weight loss during pregnancy

> 5. Pitocin, or other inducing drugs during labor

> 6. Prolonged labor

> 7. Prolonged prodomal labor (non-productive, before actual

> dilating labor commenced)

> 8. Muconeum present at birth of child

> 9. Lower APGAR scores for child

>

> Thank you in advance for your responses.

>

> Kathleen Stokes

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I bet she hurt real bad, hannah was only 5lb.14, my other 2 were 7lb1oz and

7lb 8oz, see the difference..........i wonder is there a connection. cherylS

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Dear Cheryl,

My daughter, , was 9lbs.,3oz. at birth and really hurt coming out

(:

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>

>

> > At 3/21/02 10:12 AM -0800, you wrote:

> > >Pitocin was the #2 response on my 400 parent survey. It contains

> > >CHLORBUTUNOL, a known

> > >neurotoxin. It will fade into the baby via breastfeeding as well, and

> will

> > >open the blood brain

> > >barrier up at the same time we give them HEP b in the hospital, which

> will

> > >drive the mercury/virus

> > >deeper into neuro limbic systems, and also will stop maturation needed

> for

> > >connections

> > >to complete, as well as eat at myelin. There is your answer. Toxins

of

> > >anykind, do have

> > >consequences.

> > >Kathy

> >

> > unless you did some kind of control survey of parents with neurotypical

> > kids this is meaningless.

> >

> > In the united states pitocin is very widely used. I would be very

> > surprised if ANY group of women surveyed with that list didn't come up

> with

> > pitocin as a very high rate of response. Did you have a control group??

> >

> > not to mention most of your conclusions sound like unsubstantiated

> > pseudoscience. What evidence do you have that opening up the BBB drives

> > anything into the limbic system? Or that it " eats at myelin "

> >

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I had #s 5,6,8,9 and that resulted, not in my daughter

who has autism but my daughter who has always been in

the gifted program!

Tamara

--- kathleenstokes2000 <kathleenstokes2000@...>

wrote:

> Dear Group:

> Maybe an important question: Did any of you

> mothers of girls

> with autism have any of the following during

> pregnancy:

> 1. Interuterine Growth Restriction (baby

> didn't grow normally)

> 2. Migraine headaches

> 3. Urinary tract infection

> 4. Weight loss during pregnancy

> 5. Pitocin, or other inducing drugs during

> labor

> 6. Prolonged labor

> 7. Prolonged prodomal labor (non-productive,

> before actual

> dilating labor commenced)

> 8. Muconeum present at birth of child

> 9. Lower APGAR scores for child

>

> Thank you in advance for your responses.

>

> Kathleen Stokes

>

>

>

>

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Dear Elaine,

I wanted to go the natural route as I did with my firstborn son. I had

so much water gain with my first pregnancy that my son kind of came flying

out and was clean too! So when came along, and I was 20 lbs. lighter

with her, I figured it would be a cinch. Little did I know how big she

really was. Her heaed came out, but her shoulders, being 3 centimeters

widewr than my son, got stuck. It was really comical if it hadn't have hurt

so much.

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> - My 3 week old was 9lbs 3oz and would of hurt coming out but I had

an

> epidural and couldn't feel it!Ha! He was also forceps delivery.

> By the way, my autistic daughter was the least invasive of my deliveries!

> She is autistic and none of my others are, well, all are well past the age

> of becoming autistic except my baby.

>

> ElaineF

>

>

> > My daughter, , was 9lbs.,3oz. at birth and really hurt coming

out

> > (:

> >

> >

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I have a four year old daughter with Autism. The only thing on the list that

fits me is that I was induced. My child was delivered normal , 8 lbs, 8 hrs.

.

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> Kathy- I have seen the stats on Hollander before and have long been

> interested in the effects of Pitocin. The fact that it opens the blood

brain

> barrier so there is further assault by the Hep B- which Bridget had in the

> hospital (even though I didn't want to, I went along with it) just firms

up

> my opinion that the Pitocin fits into Bridget's puzzle. Thank you for

your

> efforts in this area even though it does not fit your own personal

scenario!

> Deanna

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The drs were afraid that 's shoulders would get stuck too, but

thankfully they didn't. I will stick with little babies!ha! But then

is definitely my last one. And we are enjoying him so much. The next to the

youngest is nearly so it has been awhile for a baby here. At 2 wks he

weighed 10lbs, 5oz. He is really growing! On topic- is suffering a bit

from jealousy. She will stand in the hall and flick the switch when we are

holding him. She is slowly warming up to the point where she will come in

the living room when he is in there now but will not hold him.She will talk

about the baby and smile when she sees him as long as she doesn't have to

get close! She has never wanted to hold little tiny babies. She likes them

when they are about 6 months old. I guess she thinks they are too little and

wiggly before that.

Elaine F

> > so> with her, I figured it would be a cinch. Little did I know how big

she

> really was. Her heaed came out, but her shoulders, being 3 centimeters

> widewr than my son, got stuck. It was really comical if it hadn't have

hurt

> so much.

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Does anybody know if there are any books or extensive articles, web sites, etc

on disabled parents having and raising children (Can include adoption,

surrogacy)? Ive looked before and havent found much info.

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Here are some links I've found:

http://www.disabledparents.net/

http://trfn.clpgh.org/star/

http://www.lookingglass.org/

This magazine is also REALLY good. They had a recent article about

Jon Hockenberry being a dad:

http://www.newmobility.com/

Hope that helps a little. Most of my " resources " have come from

meeting other disabled parents online.

>

> Does anybody know if there are any books or extensive articles, web

sites, etc on disabled parents having and raising children (Can

include adoption, surrogacy)? Ive looked before and havent found much

info.

>

>

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In a message dated 8/20/02 12:51:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

nekrosys@... writes:

> Most of my " resources " have come from

> meeting other disabled parents online.

Hi,

I belong to another listserver where it's all disabled parents raising kids,

disabled and otherwise. It's been a huge help to me and my husband with

having le. If you're interested, let me know and I'll forward the

signup info on to you.

Amy M. Marquez

Carol Stream, Illinois

Families of Spinal Muscular Atrophy - Vice President Chicagoland Chapter

Spinal Muscular Atrophy (SMA) - Type 1

Mom to le - Born July 19, 1999

Ella - Active Service Dog

Colette - Retired Service Dog

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Hey Amy,

I'd love to have a look at that list you mentioned about disabled

parents raising children. Could you forward that signup info please? I'm

not a parent, but hope to be in a few years time.

Gunn (aka Misty)

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In a message dated 12/7/2002 2:32:49 PM Central Standard Time,

missapril@... writes:

> gots lots of questions for de doctor, don't I? lol

>

> April

>

April - congratulations on being pregnant! That is fantastic!

You definitely have lots of questions for the doc! Take your foodmover along

and ask his advice! Depending on your current weight you may be able to

follow a plan that will get you through your pregnancy without gaining! Yup,

believe it or not, that is possible (although it never happened to me!)

Again, congrats and good luck!

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Congratulations! And yep, you have a few questions for the doctor.

Jelayne

pregnancy

Hey all!!!

Well, here is the deal..... I just found out I am pregnant... :-)

NOW what? I will never make goal... I can't intentionally try to lose

weight...

I am on the Foodmover, that is healthy by the American Diabetic and

Dietetic Association and is the exchange program. So, I should be

able still to use it if I increase the calories and exchanges according

to what is necessary for pregnancy, right? So, what if I still lose

weight?

I gots lots of questions for de doctor, don't I? lol

April

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CONGRATS!!!

May I ask, how long have you been doing the Foodmover and how much

have you lost????

> Hey all!!!

> Well, here is the deal..... I just found out I am pregnant... :-

)

>

> NOW what? I will never make goal... I can't intentionally try to

lose weight...

>

> I am on the Foodmover, that is healthy by the American Diabetic and

Dietetic Association and is the exchange program. So, I should be

able still to use it if I increase the calories and exchanges

according to what is necessary for pregnancy, right? So, what if I

still lose weight?

>

> I gots lots of questions for de doctor, don't I? lol

>

> April

>

>

>

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-----Original Message-----

From: April [mailto:missapril@...]

>> I just found out I am pregnant... :-)

Congrats!! that's great news!

>>NOW what? I will never make goal... I can't intentionally try

to lose weight...

Never say never! It may take a bit LONGER to reach goal, but look

what you're gaining by the delay!!! As long as the baby is

getting good nutrition, you should be able to stay on track. You

need to add enough calories for the baby, but could end up lighter

after delivery than you are now....

>>I gots lots of questions for de doctor, don't I? lol

You sure do! And if the doctor isn't supportive of your attempt

to stay on plan (with adding calories for the baby) -- you could

always get a second opinion....

Sue

" I did the thing I feared the most -- excuse me while I cheer.

Now here I stand, a stronger soul -- and all I've lost is fear. "

" Don't give up what you want most

for what you want for the moment "

" Fate is what life hands you.

Destiny is what you do with it. "

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Thanks everyone! I just found out I am pregnant, I am not that far along.

The due date will be somewhere around the first week of August. I am not that

far along in my weight loss effort either. BUT I had a bet with my son that I

would lose 80 pounds in one year. When my bday rolls around, I have to weigh

around 200 lbs. I began at 288. I have only lost a few lbs so far.

I did some reading, and it says that you only need to add about 300 calories to

your diet to compensate for the baby's needs. It gave me the exchanges and it

looks like it is around a 2100-2400 cal diet. Which at this point in the game,

is not much more than what I am doing for the Foodmover program. I have myself

set at 2000 already. And I don't eat all that food, no matter how much I try.

I think I would be doing well to force myself to eat all that while being

pregnant....... keep walking and keep doing the stretching exercises, yoga

type exercises. In my case, diet has not been the problem as much as exercising

is. My weight comes off with the exercising. Won't without it.

It might work for me.....to keep on keeping on and let the chips fall where they

will. If I keep on the diet and lose, great, and if I don't, then I am still

healthier for it. The most important thing is that the baby will be okay.

And YES, I will talk to the Doctor, of course. :-)

April

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In a message dated 12/8/2002 9:11:51 PM Central Standard Time,

rdclark1@... writes:

> I ate

> everything I wanted and did not gain one extra pound!

>

- good for you! I gained 60 pounds with my daughter and lost it all

after she was born. Then I gained 80 pounds with my son (went through a

divorce while pregnant with him) and am still carrying around some of that

weight now 25 years later! You are indeed a lucky woman!

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Congrats TO YOU!

Oh, I loved being pregnant. I never counted my calories. I ate, what my

body wanted me to eat, and I lost up to 40 pounds with my first baby and he

weighted almost 10 pounds, and Chelsea weighted 7 pounds and I ate

everything I wanted and did not gain one extra pound!

Good luck to you.

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>

> Thanks everyone! I just found out I am pregnant, I am not that far

along. The due date will be somewhere around the first week of August. I

am not that far along in my weight loss effort either. BUT I had a bet

with my son that I would lose 80 pounds in one year. When my bday rolls

around, I have to weigh around 200 lbs. I began at 288. I have only

lost a few lbs so far.

>

> I did some reading, and it says that you only need to add about 300

calories to your diet to compensate for the baby's needs. It gave me the

exchanges and it looks like it is around a 2100-2400 cal diet. Which at

this point in the game, is not much more than what I am doing for the

Foodmover program. I have myself set at 2000 already. And I don't eat all

that food, no matter how much I try. I think I would be doing well to force

myself to eat all that while being pregnant....... keep walking and keep

doing the stretching exercises, yoga type exercises. In my case, diet has

not been the problem as much as exercising is. My weight comes off with

the exercising. Won't without it.

>

> It might work for me.....to keep on keeping on and let the chips fall

where they will. If I keep on the diet and lose, great, and if I don't,

then I am still healthier for it. The most important thing is that the

baby will be okay.

>

> And YES, I will talk to the Doctor, of course. :-)

>

> April

>

>

>

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LET ME SHARE WITH YOU MY EXPERIENCE. When you go to Dr. and suggest that

you need to lose weight---while your pregnant----THEY will SCOLD YOU and

look at you VERY funny. They will say things like: You should have lost

weight before getting pregnant if that is what you wanted, or they will

suggest putting it off until after delivery. They will sternly suggest that

you not GO ON ANY TYPE OF DIET, and somehow expect you not to gain over

20-25 pounds. Out of all due respect, I would basically NOW, just be

worried about NOT gaining more than 25 pounds and forget the food mover

until you have baby.

:) peace

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> In a message dated 12/7/2002 2:32:49 PM Central Standard Time,

> missapril@... writes:

>

> > gots lots of questions for de doctor, don't I? lol

> >

> > April

> >

>

> April - congratulations on being pregnant! That is fantastic!

>

> You definitely have lots of questions for the doc! Take your foodmover

along

> and ask his advice! Depending on your current weight you may be able to

> follow a plan that will get you through your pregnancy without gaining!

Yup,

> believe it or not, that is possible (although it never happened to me!)

>

> Again, congrats and good luck!

>

>

>

>

>

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