Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 > > Dr. Mercola is BIG on supplementing with Vitamin D. He had a video on his daily newsletter recently about it. He mentioned a home test for D levels that is accurate, and I am going to try to find it. josie I take vitamin D thats in the multivitamins and in the calcium pills. Since I was diagnosed with osetopenia. The bone medication I take has 2800 IU of vitamin D. When I visit my brother in Arizona, in Oct, I try to get some SUN. Have to be careful on diuretics(water pills). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 If you do find the test, I am intereted too, pls Jean From: PickPinkFlowers Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:56 PM Subject: Vitamin D Dr. Mercola is BIG on supplementing with Vitamin D. He had a video on his daily newsletter recently about it. He mentioned a home test for D levels that is accurate, and I am going to try to find it. Josie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2009 Report Share Posted January 7, 2009 Celiac disease is the first thing that comes to mind, you can give Vit D all day long but if he can't absorb it its pointless. I'd say he's got osteo due to the low Vit D. Just had another thought, has his PTH and calcium level been tested? If he's got a parathyroid tumor if will drive down his Vit D levels to protect the body. Its a 15 minute surgery to remove the tumor (there usually non cancerous) if that's the case. VITAMIN D >I got a call from Blake's Endocrinologist. She asde me what was the > units on Blake's Calciferol(Vitamin A & D)was, which is 8,000 per drop. > She then told me she got his Viatamin D, 25 and Viatamin D,125...His > is completely UNDETECTED. > Can anyone tell me what this means for Blake. > The Dr. also informed me that Blake is noe Insulin Resistant. Can this > be related to his Immune problems ir is it the Swachman Diamond > Syndrome(Pattie if you please). > Blake has been really really sick. We do NOT understand teh depetion > of the Vit. D. His urine Vit. was also undetected. he is outside in > the sun, drinks plenty of stuff with vit. d and he eats plenty of > dairy products. He is very very active. and he takes the Caciferol (15 > drops) each morning in his juice or plain water. > Any help would be gratly appreciated(yes, he does have Osteoporosis, > but is NOT treated at this moment for it...they thought being in > puberty would solve it) > > Mom to Blake, 16 > SCID with Complete T-Cell Dysfunction(SQ 10 grams 2X's weekly), SDS, > Autistic > http://www3.caringbridge.org/sc/blakester > > > > ------------------------------------ > > This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a > Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the > sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional > advice. > > To unsubscribe -unsubscribegroups (DOT) > To search group archives go to: > /messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2009 Report Share Posted March 25, 2009 Rush - My vitamin D level was on the lowest end of " normal " a couple of months prior to my " outbreak " . I took rx levels of D for two weeks - and it raised my blood D level just one point! Shortly after, I had my " outbreak " . Most doctors/scientists who work with Morgellons know that it " uses " vitamin D for something, but I don't think any have advanced a theory about that. Bessie > > Has anyone had vitamin D levels checked. I had an appointment with Dr. Kolb last week, she did pretty extensive blood work. She mentioned that my vitamin D levels would probably be low, she said that most patients with morgellans are very low. I spoke with her today and she said my vitamin D levels were critically low, suggessted I take 10,000 mg per day. That is definitely not recommended--unless test results show low levels. Just a suggestion to get D levels checked. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 You decide, my suggestion is www.bacteriality.com Geir Flatabø 2009/5/28 mcollins2001uk <m.collins9@...> I am giving Henry this with nordic naturals cod liver oil, since this brand has lost most of its D. When I run out I shall be changing brand, I don't understand what to do about D3, since there are warnings that it's dangerous and there are other warnings that we're probably all low in it. What is the best source or information about supplementing with D3 please so I can decide what to do? Thanks,Margaret------------------------------------DISCLAIMERNo information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Thank you Geir, I shall have a good look at this. Sally, Dr Mercola pulls some intersting stuff together on his website (though I'm fed up with the plugs for krill oil!)but I think he lacks the ability to assess things scientifically, so if I see anything he recommends, I would never follow it but seek out other sources of information first. Margaret > > You decide, > my suggestion is www.bacteriality.com > > Geir Flatabø > > 2009/5/28 mcollins2001uk <m.collins9@...> > > > I am giving Henry this with nordic naturals cod liver oil, since this brand > > has lost most of its D. When I run out I shall be changing brand, > > > > I don't understand what to do about D3, since there are warnings that it's > > dangerous and there are other warnings that we're probably all low in it. > > What is the best source or information about supplementing with D3 please so > > I can decide what to do? > > > > Thanks, > > Margaret > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > DISCLAIMER > > No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. > > If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified > > practitioner. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Hi Margaret, We take around 1000IU per day (not sure we can recommend brands - Tim and I use the Solgar 1000IU gelcaps but we are looking to change). We found vit D great for skin but we had to give vit k2 to balance it. Eddie's teeth went grey and soft again when we gave vit d3 it was only giving k2 which made his teeth lovely and white again. We use Thorne k2 drops - pricey but lasts a fair time. Sandyxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Thanks Sandy. May I ask please, why do you supplement with Vitamin D? Have you looked at the Marshall protocol which says Vitamin D acts like a steroid rather than a vitamin and so longer term depresses the immune system? I find it all a bit mind-boggling..It's something it seem is very important to get right. Margaret > > Hi Margaret, > > We take around 1000IU per day (not sure we can recommend brands - Tim and I use the Solgar 1000IU gelcaps but we are looking to change). We found vit D great for skin but we had to give vit k2 to balance it. Eddie's teeth went grey and soft again when we gave vit d3 it was only giving k2 which made his teeth lovely and white again. > We use Thorne k2 drops - pricey but lasts a fair time. > Sandyxx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Hi Margaret, We looked at both sides and the case for vitamin D was very strong - though we would prefer we could get it all through sunlight and food. We also like Weston A Price a lot. Amy Yasko recommends it and we have vit D receptor mutations which suggest we need more than most. So we decided to supplement but to keep it modest. Sandyxx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Thanks, Sandy, Margaret > > Hi Margaret, > > We looked at both sides and the case for vitamin D was very strong - though we would prefer we could get it all through sunlight and food. We also like Weston A Price a lot. Amy Yasko recommends it and we have vit D receptor mutations which suggest we need more than most. So we decided to supplement but to keep it modest. > Sandyxx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2009 Report Share Posted June 8, 2009 Going on the Weston Price website a lot of CLO brands which seem to have high levels of Vit D have actually had it added after cleaning etc ie it is factory-made Vit D rather than naturally produced. You might like to read their article by someone who went round the factories etc. before deciding which brand to switch to. I switched to a low-vit D CLO (as less interfered with and many artificial vits don't work anyway) and supplemented Vit D. Edith reacted badly to the high dose Vit D and I took it away again. Presumably she might have been reacting to the extra Vit D in the CLO and I wouldn't have known. Do you give enzymes because improving digestion might be a better route. Large doses of vitamins sometimes have ill-effects which only become known later. Did you see the research suggesting that high dose antioxidants (in the form of vits C and E) increase insulin-resistance in a proportion of people and thus predispose them to diabetes? I think this may be a contributing factor to my Mum's diabetes (that and being very fat and getting no exercise so there were lots of other causes) Sally mcollins2001uk wrote: > > > I am giving Henry this with nordic naturals cod liver oil, since this > brand has lost most of its D. When I run out I shall be changing brand, > > I don't understand what to do about D3, since there are warnings that > it's dangerous and there are other warnings that we're probably all > low in it. What is the best source or information about supplementing > with D3 please so I can decide what to do? > > Thanks, > Margaret > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.55/2160 - Release Date: 06/07/09 05:53:00 > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 Hi Isobel, I saw this a while back and ordered some, comes in a spearmint flavour spray, kids both like it, and I am sure glad I did, after just one week back at school they BOTH came down with flu, been treating them with collidial silver, D3, Grapeseed extract (natural anti viral). Both doing brilliantly. I was using the D3 spray and collidial silver just to make sure I didnt come down with it, it was pretty nasty. Never seen my son so sick. I went onto the flu pandemic website, out of curiosity to see what it said about symptoms etc., there is a questionnaire which is like multichoices in each one. Thing is they didnt have all the symptoms but at the end of it they allocated a patient number, to pick up a pack of tamiflu (antiviral drug). That worried me as I know the side effects can be pretty nasty. It was all a bit too vague for my liking. Anyway, D3 spray is good stuff, recommend it. Love and peace Caz > > hi all there is an article from mercola a sibout how vitamin d helps with hin1 > www.articles@... > Isobel > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2009 Report Share Posted September 24, 2009 - hi yes my son zachary has been a bit ill high fever hot all over but no vomiting or diohhroar=ea well none out of the ordinary we did vitd3 nothing else and he seems fine I know julie knows a lot on vitamin d3 ours is the liquid kind mandi got it for us. we used grape seed and colloiidal silver when getting rid of yeast back in feb it also helps with parasites as an after thought have you looked at biopureurope.com or biopureus.com quintessence freeze dried garlic phiosphiolpids rizoles gamma and zeta are all good herbs for virals fungals metals etc.,dr, mercola is the one who says asd children are deficcient in vit.d he has a facebook site..hine tami flu is untested with thiomersal inside it[as we all know] Isobel p.s. quite a few parents use these protocols on abe.. -- In Autism Treatment , " crazycazinuk " <crazycazinuk@...> wrote: > > > Hi Isobel, I saw this a while back and ordered some, comes in a > spearmint flavour spray, kids both like it, and I am sure glad I did, > after just one week back at school they BOTH came down with flu, been > treating them with collidial silver, D3, Grapeseed extract (natural anti > viral). Both doing brilliantly. I was using the D3 spray and collidial > silver just to make sure I didnt come down with it, it was pretty nasty. > Never seen my son so sick. > > I went onto the flu pandemic website, out of curiosity to see what it > said about symptoms etc., there is a questionnaire which is like > multichoices in each one. Thing is they didnt have all the symptoms but > at the end of it they allocated a patient number, to pick up a pack of > tamiflu (antiviral drug). That worried me as I know the side effects > can be pretty nasty. It was all a bit too vague for my liking. > > Anyway, D3 spray is good stuff, recommend it. > > Love and peace > > Caz > > > > > > > > > hi all there is an article from mercola a sibout how vitamin d helps > with hin1 > > www.articles@ > > Isobel > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2009 Report Share Posted September 26, 2009 Re: Can Vitamin D Improve Your Athletic Performance? The only caveat with all this is the chicken or the egg argument. We know that 70-80%+ of people with issues like M.S., fibromyalgia, RA, etc. have low Vit D levels. Do these diseases lead to low Vit D levels, or does low Vit D levels lead to chronic disease? Thanks, Buddy ********************************** I suspect the low levels found in these patients simply mirrors the low Vitamin D in the general population. I also suspect that the low Vit D levels in the general population may be a result of the general avoidance of sun exposure which has occurred as a result of the fear of skin cancer. The law of un intended consequences. Ralph Giarnella MD Southington Ct USA s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Is he deficient in D? Have you checked his blood levels or do you plan to regularly, because yes, he could get too much. I would not start giving your kids anything special just because of H1N1. Just use your common sense with good diet--including extra water to stay hydrated with heat being on, fresh air and sufficient sleep. Have vitamins, supplements, homeopathic meds (if you use them), etc. on hand for if they start to show symptoms, but I would not load them up preventatively with anything extra. Winnie vitamin dVaccinations > Hi all, I want to start giving vitamin d to my 6 year old to > hopefully help with h1n1 prevention.- Can someone tell me how > much he should take? Is it something that can hurt him if I > give him too much?> Thanks! > Becky> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Not to mention some good, old-fashioned sunshine without the sunblock! More so in your oncoming winter. Big pharma has everyone running so scared of the sun nowadays, it's no wonder that many are vitamin D deficient. Sue x -- Re: vitamin d Is he deficient in D? Have you checked his blood levels or do you plan to regularly, because yes, he could get too much. I would not start giving your kids anything special just because of H1N1. Just use your common sense with good diet--including extra water to stay hydrated with heat being on, fresh air and sufficient sleep. Have vitamins, supplements, homeopathic meds (if you use them), etc. on hand for if they start to show symptoms, but I would not load them up preventatively with anything extra. Winnie vitamin dVaccinations > Hi all, I want to start giving vitamin d to my 6 year old to > hopefully help with h1n1 prevention.- Can someone tell me how > much he should take? Is it something that can hurt him if I > give him too much?> Thanks! > Becky> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 At 05:26 AM 10/20/2009, you wrote: Hi all, I want to start giving vitamin d to my 6 year old to hopefully help with h1n1 prevention.- Can someone tell me how much he should take? Is it something that can hurt him if I give him too much? Thanks! Becky #1 - I would let go of my fear of h1n1 - that is to sell product Below is Vitamin D info - most people are depleted Really should test levels to see what they are in your blood at some point before treating for too long http://www.zrtlab.com/vitamindcouncil/ here is a website dedicated to vit D info: http://www.vitamindcouncil.org/ http://products.mercola.com/vitamin-d-spray/?source=nl http://www.uptownnutrition.com/PDFDocs/n/N30M20GDACH99GXV4Q8HK1E4M59L3PD1.PDF *********** there is a lot of new information on Vitamin D and the need for much higher amounts. If it is very sunny, don't need to supplement ............that's why we see less illness in the summer (and large amount of body exposed to the sun) ........... 20 minutes in midday sun with 40% exposure will give you about 5-10,000IU Dr. Eisenstein of HomeFirst medical practice (non-vaccinating practice) in Chicago has much about this as do others. http://www.expertclick.com/NewsReleaseWire/ReleaseDetails.aspx?ID=24702 & CFID=26310623 & CFTOKEN=58668027 http://www.homefirst.com/vitamin_d3.html You have to be sure it is Vitamin D3 go to webpage for all the links embedded in the studies below Scientific Studies on Vitamin D3 Vitamin D and Cavities Children Vitamin D Toxicity Vitamin D: It's Not Just For Bones Anymore Epidemic Influenza And Vitamin D Vitamin D and Back Pain Vitamin D Cut Falls Seniors Vitamin D Cancer Athletic Performance and Vitamin D Why Vitamin D3 not D2 Vitamin D3 and Live Longer Vitamin D3 Levels to Prevent Cancers Dr. Holick on Vitamin D More Than Just Rickets Vitamin D Asthma Vitamin D and Autism Homefirst®'s Vitamin D3 Homefirst® ProD 5 Homefirst® ProD 50 Dr Eisenstein's Daily Minimum Recommendation for Vitamin D Based on the Latest Scientific Findings * 1. Pregnant and nursing mothers- 6,000IU * 2. Newborn breastfed- from their mothers * 3. Newborn bottle fed- 1,000IU * 4. Children 2000IU * 5. Adults 2000IU * 6. Chronic Illness 5000IU * 7. Respiratory infection 50,000IU for three to seven days * 8. Blood levels should be in the range of 50ng/ml * 9. Blood levels for chronic conditions 80-100ng/ml * * 10. 20 minutes in midday sun with 40% exposure will give you about 5-10,000IU * 11. If no sun use Vitamin D3 supplements The 25(OH)D blood test can determine your levels 100IU of Vitamin D will raise your blood levels approximately 1ng/ml Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/10/10/Vitamin-D-Experts-Reveal-the-Truth.aspx This is a GREAT article on vitamin d and the dosage needed. It has been found to keep the flu away! We do not get our blood tested so we stay on the lower end of the dosage--you can get too much vitamin d3 but it is hard to do. Read this article and follow Dr. Mercola's advice :-) (be sure to buy vitamin d3) He also has other articles on vaccine dangers if you feel like searching around. Oh, here is another article talking about toxic doses of vitamin d http://www.hpakids.org/holistic-health/articles/120/1/Simple-Facts-About-Vitamin-D ~ >> Hi all, I want to start giving vitamin d to my 6 year old to hopefully help with h1n1 prevention.- Can someone tell me how much he should take? Is it something that can hurt him if I give him too much?> Thanks! > Becky> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Do you have to get the sun exposure everyday to get the benefits, or will your body store some of it? F Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 At 02:01 PM 10/20/2009, you wrote: >Do you have to get the sun exposure everyday to get the benefits, or >will your body store some of it? > > F I have read it has to be 40% of your body exposed and 20 minutes at least a day Nothing is stored for very long - that's the trouble See links I sent Sheri Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Your body does ordinarily store Vitamin D in your liver. However, if you use a lot of sunscreen and don't go in the sun " enough " then your stores are low to begin with. When the winter comes along and people dress up in lots of clothes and don't go outside anymore, their stores get seriously depleted by about Jan/Feb which is when you start to see significant flu/colds/strep, etc.. start taking effect on the population. You can remedy the problem with taking a Vitamin D3 (make sure it is D3 and not D2), which will help to replenish your stores. You can also go out in the stone cold snow naked for 20 minutes a day, LOL!! But I prefer swallowing the pill. Also, some people do not store their Vitamin D, which is currently not really understood except that certain types of the population are more at risk for this such as celiacs. You can get a level check by your doctor b/c some people are much lower in their levels than their sun exposure " should " have them at and that is damaging to your health. Vitamin D is actually not a vitamin at all but more like a hormone. Our body produces it on our skin surface and takes time to absorb it. So, for instance, you regularly sun bathe and then go take a shower immediately, you just washed all of your Vitamin D down the shower drain. You need to keep your skin dry to absorb the D for several hours after sun exposure. That might explain some of the low levels in certain people, but not entirely sure. HTH - Arlynn > > Do you have to get the sun exposure everyday to get the benefits, or will your body store some of it? > > F > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2009 Report Share Posted November 17, 2009 Thanks Rich. I think it really works. My daughter brings home all sorts of nasty bugs from Montessori and when her little friends come over they almost always seems to have something, so I always feel at risk . A month ago, she came home with something and I got headaches, sour throat, sniffles, nausea and muscle aches very quickly. I had not been taking the D. So, I did a pulse and I was fine 24 hours later. Since then, I take about 8,000 IU every day and I have been fine. Last week one of the little bugs got her. But she bounced back after two days of D, elderberry and vitamin C. I've been taking the D, so it did not get me at all this time. From: marcia, Tracey and the group, For what it's worth, the December, 2009 issue of the Life Extension magazine has an article in which a dosage of 5,000 IU per day of vitamin D3 is recommended to ward off the flu. They gave a review of the work of Dr. Cannell as well as two other doctors, working independently. It looks like they did their homework. Best regards, Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2009 Report Share Posted December 8, 2009 > > I read a bunch or studies a while back and 10,000 IU was the number. > A growing number of doctors seem to be advocating for 4000 IU. I > take 8000 IU in the winter and 4000 IU the rest of the year. If you > decide to go higher, you might want to do so slowly to prevent too > much detox. I treat vitamin D as a hormone and titrate my supplementation with blood testing to achieve a 25-OH D3 level of 40-50 ng/ml, based on the mortality data shown in Figure 2 of the following paper. (Some papers do show additional benefits for certain diseases all the way up to 60 ng/ml, but I'm going to continue to be cautious until more data rolls in.) http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2677029/?tool=pubmed In my experience, the new steady state after changing my dose is not achieved after two months. The oriental medicine doctor who I get prolotherapy from says it usually takes 6 months to see what blood level you're going to get from a certain dose. 3000 IU per day overdosed a person discussed in the following website and caused loss of bone density. The site also recommends testing for elevated 1,25-OH D if you have autoimmune disease and/or chronic fatigue syndrome to see if you need to restrict vitamin D. http://sunlightandvitamind.com/samples.htm#Sample%20Chapters The following paper shows how variable the response to vitamin D supplementation is. 6400 IU gave people between 12 and 77 ng/ml 25-OH D: a range that runs from underdose to overdose. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1868557/?tool=pubmed The variability may be a result of different rates of dumping vitamin D into the bile. " Since the increment in plasma 25(OH)D concentration per mcg dose is at least four times higher for 25(OH)D administration than for vitamin D3 administration, we can conclude that less than 25 percent of vitamin D molecules ever become 25(OH)D. At least three quarters of the molecules of vitamin D that enter the body are removed by some other fate. " " Most vitamin D entering the circulation appears to be excreted unmetabolized into the bile. " http://www.direct-ms.org/pdf/VitDVieth/Vieth%20CHAPTER%2061.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Vitamin D3 supplementation is the only way to get D to decent levels when deficient. She should take 10,000 IU a day for 3 or 4 months and have it rechecked. I have a friend whose doctor told her that she is very low on Vit D. I suggested taking a oil blend (flax,sunflower, wheat germ, cdl, avocado) that is cold pressed and drink whole raw milk along with 15 minutes of sunshine a day whether it's sunny or not. Can anybody add/improve on these ideas? I appreciate your help on this. Thank you -- Ann www.janesjewel.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2010 Report Share Posted August 13, 2010 Vitamin D3 supplementation is the only way to get D to decent levels when deficient. She should take 10,000 IU a day for 3 or 4 months and have it rechecked. I have a friend whose doctor told her that she is very low on Vit D. I suggested taking a oil blend (flax,sunflower, wheat germ, cdl, avocado) that is cold pressed and drink whole raw milk along with 15 minutes of sunshine a day whether it's sunny or not. Can anybody add/improve on these ideas? I appreciate your help on this. Thank you -- Ann www.janesjewel.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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