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There is a liver flush forum on curezone.com that will answer all your questions

and more. It is a good resource.

From: dennis11228 <dkanakis@...>

Subject: liver cleanse

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Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 8:48 PM

 

on the subject of liver cleanse, I am due to have one and never had one

before. I think I am fatigued from a build up as well, but from naturopathic

remedies including sopc. Many say that liver cleanse is very important and I

was wondering if others are doing a liver cleanse. I was prepared to do one

described by ken pressner the maker of the ultimate zapper, but it involves a 2

liter enema of distilled water amongst other things, so I procrastinated and now

that I am on sopc for the last 6-8 weeks, marc swanepole phd (the sopc

innovator)recommends one as well, but his involves liter of apple juice for 3

days or so, then some epsom salts (food grade) with olive oil and fresh

grapefruit juice....dont quote me there may be a little more to it; point being

it is much easier than the first one I considered. I would think that many on

here have either done a cleanse or are in need of doing one, so please give me

any feedback or experiences that you

can share.

thanks

dennis

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I've done several; with the Epsom salt solution followed by the olive oil and

the fresh squeezed grapefruit. Got lots of stones at first but diminished with

recent flushes. I don't use the apple juice but have offered it to people with

gallbladder pain.

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> There is a liver flush forum on curezone.com that will answer all your

questions and more. It is a good resource.

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I've done several; with the Epsom salt solution followed by the olive oil and

the fresh squeezed grapefruit. Got lots of stones at first but diminished with

recent flushes. I don't use the apple juice but have offered it to people with

gallbladder pain.

>

> There is a liver flush forum on curezone.com that will answer all your

questions and more. It is a good resource.

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When I stopped using drugs, I did a series of liver cleanses.  I probably did

around seven of them; one every week until I passed no stones.  Hulda is

the authority on the liver cleanse.  You can google it and read about them. 

They are very easy to do and I found them to be one of the most important steps

in regaining health.  The worst part is drinking the epsom salts.  However,

Dr. sells epsom salts in capsules so you can avoid the awful taste.  I

currently do a liver cleanse quarterly.  It only takes two days and the first

is really just fasting.  I fast on Friday because it doesn't interfere with

work and then lay around Saturday morning and it's over Saturday around

noon...here's the recipe...

 

LIVER CLEANSE

Ingredients :

4 tablespoons of oral Epsom salts

1 tablespoon Vitamin C powder

½ cup virgin olive oil

1 large fresh grapefruit

2 glass jars with lids

16 oz. apple juice + beet juice

Drink as much water as you want

Procedure :

First day:

1. 9:00 am: Eat a breakfast of cooked porridge, no milk or butter; 8 ounces

apple juice + beet juice; or a baked potato, no butter

2. 2:00 pm : Mix 4 tablespoons of oral Epsom salts and 1 Tbsp of Vitamin C

powder in 3 cups of cold water in one jar, and refrigerate

3. 3:00 pm : Have a warm water enema; rest

4. 6:00 pm : Drink ¾ cup of the cold Epsom salts

5. 8:00 pm : Drink ¾ cup Epsom salts

6. 9:45 pm : Pour ½ cup olive oil into the second jar; squeeze out ½ cup

grapefruit juice and add to the olive oil. Close the jar lid and shake hard

until watery.

7. 10:00 pm : Drink the potion. Lie down immediately. Lie still on your back and

go to sleep.

Second day:

1. 9:00 am: Drink ¾ cup Epsom salts. Go back to bed.

2. 11:00 am : Drink ¾ cup Epsom salts. Go back to bed.

3. 1:00 pm : Get up and drink 8 ounces apple + beet juice. Read a book.

4. 2:00 pm : Eat a banana or an orange. Read another book.

5. 6:00 pm : Eat a light supper of salad and fruit; no meat

Many stones will be seen in the toilet upon the first bowel movement after a

liver cleanse. It may take several cleanses over a period of months to clear all

of them out from the liver.

Following a liver cleanse, it is useful to have several coffee enemas to pull

further toxins that are stored in the liver. Use organic coffee beans, and about

a quart of coffee each time, retained for ten minutes.

Replace intestinal bacteria by taking acidophilus

 

 

From: dennis11228 <dkanakis@...

Subject: liver cleanse

cures for AIDS

Date: Wednesday, June 23, 2010, 11:48 PM

 

on the subject of liver cleanse, I am due to have one and never had one before.

I think I am fatigued from a build up as well, but from naturopathic remedies

including sopc. Many say that liver cleanse is very important and I was

wondering if others are doing a liver cleanse. I was prepared to do one

described by ken pressner the maker of the ultimate zapper, but it involves a 2

liter enema of distilled water amongst other things, so I procrastinated and now

that I am on sopc for the last 6-8 weeks, marc swanepole phd (the sopc

innovator)recommends one as well, but his involves liter of apple juice for 3

days or so, then some epsom salts (food grade) with olive oil and fresh

grapefruit juice....dont quote me there may be a little more to it; point being

it is much easier than the first one I considered. I would think that many on

here have either done a cleanse or are in need of doing one, so please give me

any feedback or experiences that you can share.

thanks

dennis

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Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2010 03:48:41 +0000

Subject: liver cleanse

on the subject of liver cleanse, I am due to have one and never had one

before. I think I am fatigued from a build up as well, but from naturopathic

remedies including sopc. Many say that liver cleanse is very important and I

was wondering if others are doing a liver cleanse. I was prepared to do one

described by ken pressner the maker of the ultimate zapper, but it involves a 2

liter enema of distilled water amongst other things, so I procrastinated and now

that I am on sopc for the last 6-8 weeks, marc swanepole phd (the sopc

innovator)recommends one as well, but his involves liter of apple juice for 3

days or so, then some epsom salts (food grade) with olive oil and fresh

grapefruit juice....dont quote me there may be a little more to it; point being

it is much easier than the first one I considered. I would think that many on

here have either done a cleanse or are in need of doing one, so please give me

any feedback or experiences that you can share.

thanks

dennis

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Hiya to all,

Just joined this site and been reading lots of posts on here and

what a brilliant informative site.....could anyone advise please on a good

liver/support cleanse that would also be safe for a child to have also(my son is

13 he his registered blind and is also autistic) I would also want to do the

liver cleanse also because i have been on prozac now for 20 yrs on/off and was

told by the doctor that this type of medication is filtered through the liver

and when ive had liver function blood tests the enzymes are alway high and then

my GP will ask me if i drink lots of alcohol....i don,t drink at all so i find

these results quite worrying......this scenario has happened quite a few times

over the years.

I also suffer from hypothyroid and it has never been stabilised in the 20 yrs i

have had it.....i take 150mg daily need more but my body cannot tolerate even

the slightest increase and 3 weeks ago i had i CT kidney scan with dye injected

and had a bad reaction to it.....suffering very bad panic attacks and a rash on

parts of my body aland also my T4 shot up to 20.4

I am a member of a thyroid site and the lady who runs this site did put a post

on this site asking for advice re: the CT scan and my bad reaction and a lady

called from this site called stephanie did reply

So looking forward to chatting lots more with everyone.

Manda

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Hiya,

Hope its ok that i an reposting this.......i did not get any replies first time

From: mandshere2000 <mandshere2000@...>Subject: Liver cleanseiodine Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 7:15

Hiya to all,Just joined this site and been reading lots of posts on here and what a brilliant informative site.....could anyone advise please on a good liver/support cleanse that would also be safe for a child to have also(my son is 13 he his registered blind and is also autistic) I would also want to do the liver cleanse also because i have been on prozac now for 20 yrs on/off and was told by the doctor that this type of medication is filtered through the liver and when ive had liver function blood tests the enzymes are alway high and then my GP will ask me if i drink lots of alcohol....i don,t drink at all so i find these results quite worrying......this scenario has happened quite a few times over the years.I also suffer from hypothyroid and it has never been stabilised in the 20 yrs i have had it.....i take 150mg daily need more but my body cannot tolerate even the slightest increase and 3 weeks ago i had i CT kidney scan with dye

injected and had a bad reaction to it.....suffering very bad panic attacks and a rash on parts of my body aland also my T4 shot up to 20.4I am a member of a thyroid site and the lady who runs this site did put a post on this site asking for advice re: the CT scan and my bad reaction and a lady called from this site called stephanie did replySo looking forward to chatting lots more with everyone.Manda

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I would use the Pure Zen Health TLC product from Dr. Brownstein's practice page. www.centerforholisticmedicine.com. If it were my son (who is 12) I would start him out with 1/2 scoop 2x per day in 8 oz of water. I would not want to detox him too quickly if his is very toxic - which he may be but I would not know this. Adult dosing is 1 scoop 2x / day. There is a protocol booklet in the files from Metagenics that outlines a complete 28 day liver detox. I highly recommend that everyone consider doing a full cleanse. We change our oil filters in our cars but we don't clean our bodies.

Are you taking synthetic T4 only thyroid medication? This may be your issue. Many do better on desiccated thyroid. I was hypothyroid and taking 150 mcg Synthroid. I could not get balanced. Going on Desiccated thyroid has balanced me and I am doing well. I have been on the same dose for 5 years which is unusual since I was on 13 different levels over 6 years on T4 only.

Buist, ND HC

Liver cleanseiodine Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 7:15

Hiya to all,Just joined this site and been reading lots of posts on here and what a brilliant informative site.....could anyone advise please on a good liver/support cleanse that would also be safe for a child to have also(my son is 13 he his registered blind and is also autistic) I would also want to do the liver cleanse also because i have been on prozac now for 20 yrs on/off and was told by the doctor that this type of medication is filtered through the liver and when ive had liver function blood tests the enzymes are alway high and then my GP will ask me if i drink lots of alcohol....i don,t drink at all so i find these results quite worrying......this scenario has happened quite a few times over the years.I also suffer from hypothyroid and it has never been stabilised in the 20 yrs i have had it.....i take 150mg daily need more but my body cannot tolerate even the slightest increase and 3 weeks ago i had i CT kidney scan with dye injected and had a bad reaction to it.....suffering very bad panic attacks and a rash on parts of my body aland also my T4 shot up to 20.4I am a member of a thyroid site and the lady who runs this site did put a post on this site asking for advice re: the CT scan and my bad reaction and a lady called from this site called stephanie did replySo looking forward to chatting lots more with everyone.Manda

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Steph,Is the reason you have not been able to reduce your desiccated thyroid hormone on iodine because you have no thyroid?-AliOn Sep 14, 2011, at 8:24 AM, ladybugsandbees wrote:



I would use the Pure Zen Health TLC product from Dr. Brownstein's practice page. www.centerforholisticmedicine.com. If it were my son (who is 12) I would start him out with 1/2 scoop 2x per day in 8 oz of water. I would not want to detox him too quickly if his is very toxic - which he may be but I would not know this. Adult dosing is 1 scoop 2x / day. There is a protocol booklet in the files from Metagenics that outlines a complete 28 day liver detox. I highly recommend that everyone consider doing a full cleanse. We change our oil filters in our cars but we don't clean our bodies.

Are you taking synthetic T4 only thyroid medication? This may be your issue. Many do better on desiccated thyroid. I was hypothyroid and taking 150 mcg Synthroid. I could not get balanced. Going on Desiccated thyroid has balanced me and I am doing well. I have been on the same dose for 5 years which is unusual since I was on 13 different levels over 6 years on T4 only.

Buist, ND HC

Liver cleanseiodine Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 7:15

Hiya to all,Just joined this site and been reading lots of posts on here and what a brilliant informative site.....could anyone advise please on a good liver/support cleanse that would also be safe for a child to have also(my son is 13 he his registered blind and is also autistic) I would also want to do the liver cleanse also because i have been on prozac now for 20 yrs on/off and was told by the doctor that this type of medication is filtered through the liver and when ive had liver function blood tests the enzymes are alway high and then my GP will ask me if i drink lots of alcohol....i don,t drink at all so i find these results quite worrying......this scenario has happened quite a few times over the years.I also suffer from hypothyroid and it has never been stabilised in the 20 yrs i have had it.....i take 150mg daily need more but my body cannot tolerate even the slightest increase and 3 weeks ago i had i CT kidney scan with dye injected and had a bad reaction to it.....suffering very bad panic attacks and a rash on parts of my body aland also my T4 shot up to 20.4I am a member of a thyroid site and the lady who runs this site did put a post on this site asking for advice re: the CT scan and my bad reaction and a lady called from this site called stephanie did replySo looking forward to chatting lots more with everyone.Manda

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Hi ,

I just ordered the Pure Zen Health TLC product that you suggested off of the website you suggested. Also purchased 2 of Dr. Brownstein's books. I was wondering, do you use this site to order most of your products? HUGE selection!!! I hope you'll share other products that you use and or recommend.

Thank you,

Lory

Liver cleanseiodine Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 7:15

Hiya to all,Just joined this site and been reading lots of posts on here and what a brilliant informative site.....could anyone advise please on a good liver/support cleanse that would also be safe for a child to have also(my son is 13 he his registered blind and is also autistic) I would also want to do the liver cleanse also because i have been on prozac now for 20 yrs on/off and was told by the doctor that this type of medication is filtered through the liver and when ive had liver function blood tests the enzymes are alway high and then my GP will ask me if i drink lots of alcohol....i don,t drink at all so i find these results quite worrying......this scenario has happened quite a few times over the years.I also suffer from hypothyroid and it has never been stabilised in the 20 yrs i have had it.....i take 150mg daily need more but my body cannot tolerate even the slightest increase and 3 weeks ago i had i CT kidney scan with dye injected and had a bad reaction to it.....suffering very bad panic attacks and a rash on parts of my body aland also my T4 shot up to 20.4I am a member of a thyroid site and the lady who runs this site did put a post on this site asking for advice re: the CT scan and my bad reaction and a lady called from this site called stephanie did replySo looking forward to chatting lots more with everyone.Manda

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Thyroid's produces 3-5 grains of hormone per day. I take 4 grains. I don't worry about trying to reduce. I have no thyroid and I need to replace what it would have done. I take iodine for cancer, breasts and ovaries since I had these three issues. I think people get too hung up on reducing and eliminating thyroid meds when taking iodine. Iodine is so much more than for thyroids.

Buist, ND HC

Liver cleanseiodine Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 7:15

Hiya to all,Just joined this site and been reading lots of posts on here and what a brilliant informative site.....could anyone advise please on a good liver/support cleanse that would also be safe for a child to have also(my son is 13 he his registered blind and is also autistic) I would also want to do the liver cleanse also because i have been on prozac now for 20 yrs on/off and was told by the doctor that this type of medication is filtered through the liver and when ive had liver function blood tests the enzymes are alway high and then my GP will ask me if i drink lots of alcohol....i don,t drink at all so i find these results quite worrying......this scenario has happened quite a few times over the years.I also suffer from hypothyroid and it has never been stabilised in the 20 yrs i have had it.....i take 150mg daily need more but my body cannot tolerate even the slightest increase and 3 weeks ago i had i CT kidney scan with dye injected and had a bad reaction to it.....suffering very bad panic attacks and a rash on parts of my body aland also my T4 shot up to 20.4I am a member of a thyroid site and the lady who runs this site did put a post on this site asking for advice re: the CT scan and my bad reaction and a lady called from this site called stephanie did replySo looking forward to chatting lots more with everyone.Manda

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I am Dr. Brownstein's patient and friend so I don't use the website. I call in what I need. I have used many of the Biotics products and a few of the Pure Zen (Gluc-Control, TLC, DHEA & Pregnenolone). On my 5 year journey with him to get well I have used more products than I care to recap. I can say that all of the products for the most part that they have (because there are two other doctors that work there too) are going to be great choices.

Buist, ND HC

Liver cleanseiodine Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 7:15

Hiya to all,Just joined this site and been reading lots of posts on here and what a brilliant informative site.....could anyone advise please on a good liver/support cleanse that would also be safe for a child to have also(my son is 13 he his registered blind and is also autistic) I would also want to do the liver cleanse also because i have been on prozac now for 20 yrs on/off and was told by the doctor that this type of medication is filtered through the liver and when ive had liver function blood tests the enzymes are alway high and then my GP will ask me if i drink lots of alcohol....i don,t drink at all so i find these results quite worrying......this scenario has happened quite a few times over the years.I also suffer from hypothyroid and it has never been stabilised in the 20 yrs i have had it.....i take 150mg daily need more but my body cannot tolerate even the slightest increase and 3 weeks ago i had i CT kidney scan with dye injected and had a bad reaction to it.....suffering very bad panic attacks and a rash on parts of my body aland also my T4 shot up to 20.4I am a member of a thyroid site and the lady who runs this site did put a post on this site asking for advice re: the CT scan and my bad reaction and a lady called from this site called stephanie did replySo looking forward to chatting lots more with everyone.Manda

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Thank you for the information. I'm going to save that site and use it for future orders. Curious, how much iodine are you taking a day?

Thanks,

Lory

Liver cleanseiodine Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 7:15

Hiya to all,Just joined this site and been reading lots of posts on here and what a brilliant informative site.....could anyone advise please on a good liver/support cleanse that would also be safe for a child to have also(my son is 13 he his registered blind and is also autistic) I would also want to do the liver cleanse also because i have been on prozac now for 20 yrs on/off and was told by the doctor that this type of medication is filtered through the liver and when ive had liver function blood tests the enzymes are alway high and then my GP will ask me if i drink lots of alcohol....i don,t drink at all so i find these results quite worrying......this scenario has happened quite a few times over the years.I also suffer from hypothyroid and it has never been stabilised in the 20 yrs i have had it.....i take 150mg daily need more but my body cannot tolerate even the slightest increase and 3 weeks ago i had i CT kidney scan with dye injected and had a bad reaction to it.....suffering very bad panic attacks and a rash on parts of my body aland also my T4 shot up to 20.4I am a member of a thyroid site and the lady who runs this site did put a post on this site asking for advice re: the CT scan and my bad reaction and a lady called from this site called stephanie did replySo looking forward to chatting lots more with everyone.Manda

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It depends on how I feel. I fluctuate from 50 mgs - 100 mgs. I don't have a set amount anymore. There are days I don't take anything. But most days it is 50 mgs.

Buist, ND HC

Liver cleanseiodine Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 7:15

Hiya to all,Just joined this site and been reading lots of posts on here and what a brilliant informative site.....could anyone advise please on a good liver/support cleanse that would also be safe for a child to have also(my son is 13 he his registered blind and is also autistic) I would also want to do the liver cleanse also because i have been on prozac now for 20 yrs on/off and was told by the doctor that this type of medication is filtered through the liver and when ive had liver function blood tests the enzymes are alway high and then my GP will ask me if i drink lots of alcohol....i don,t drink at all so i find these results quite worrying......this scenario has happened quite a few times over the years.I also suffer from hypothyroid and it has never been stabilised in the 20 yrs i have had it.....i take 150mg daily need more but my body cannot tolerate even the slightest increase and 3 weeks ago i had i CT kidney scan with dye injected and had a bad reaction to it.....suffering very bad panic attacks and a rash on parts of my body aland also my T4 shot up to 20.4I am a member of a thyroid site and the lady who runs this site did put a post on this site asking for advice re: the CT scan and my bad reaction and a lady called from this site called stephanie did replySo looking forward to chatting lots more with everyone.Manda

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Yes, I have written many times about the " fetish " for reducing/eliminating

thyroid

replacement hormone. What is important is achieving health, not some perfect

state of being that doesn't exist in any case. Health means you are functioning

at a

high level, it doesn't mean you can erase all the years of suffering,

deficiency, and

dysfunction that created a thyroid that isn't functioning-- once the thyroid

function

shuts down, a person is already deeply ill.

The thyroid is the engine of the metabolism, which also governs brain function.

Focus on getting adequate hormone replacement/nutritional support for the

thyroid.

It is really rare that anyone regains thyroid function once their thyroid has

become

nonfunctional. The ideal of seeking perfection and focusing on getting off

thyroid

hormones (which means recovering thyroid function 100%) prevents people from

having quality of life for the amount of life they have left. Better to focus

on getting

the thyroid adequately addressed. Which generally means NTH plus the iodine

protocol at minimum. I actually INCREASED my NTH after a couple of months on

the iodine protocol because I realized just HOW GOOD I could really feel, and I

finally realized that yes, as my primary practitioner had predicted, I need 3

grains,

not 2 grains. Been doing very well after 20 years of struggle with impaired

thyroid,

which included 10+ years of not being diagnosed or treated at all.

--

> Thyroid's produces 3-5 grains of hormone per day. I take 4 grains. I

> don't worry about trying to reduce. I have no thyroid and I need to

> replace what it would have done. I take iodine for cancer, breasts and

> ovaries since I had these three issues. I think people get too hung up

> on reducing and eliminating thyroid meds when taking iodine. Iodine is

> so much more than for thyroids.

>

> Buist, ND HC

>

>

> Liver cleanse

> iodine

> Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 7:15

>

>

>

> Hiya to all,

> Just joined this site and been reading lots of posts on here and what

> a brilliant informative site.....could anyone advise please on a good

> liver/support cleanse that would also be safe for a child to have

> also(my son is 13 he his registered blind and is also autistic) I

> would also want to do the liver cleanse also because i have been on

> prozac now for 20 yrs on/off and was told by the doctor that this type

> of medication is filtered through the liver and when ive had liver

> function blood tests the enzymes are alway high and then my GP will

> ask me if i drink lots of alcohol....i don,t drink at all so i find

> these results quite worrying......this scenario has happened quite a

> few times over the years. I also suffer from hypothyroid and it has

> never been stabilised in the 20 yrs i have had it.....i take 150mg

> daily need more but my body cannot tolerate even the slightest

> increase and 3 weeks ago i had i CT kidney scan with dye injected and

> had a bad reaction to it.....suffering very bad panic attacks and a

> rash on parts of my body aland also my T4 shot up to 20.4 I am a

> member of a thyroid site and the lady who runs this site did put a

> post on this site asking for advice re: the CT scan and my bad

> reaction and a lady called from this site called stephanie did reply

> So looking forward to chatting lots more with everyone.

>

> Manda

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Liver cleanseiodine Date: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011, 7:15

Hiya to all,Just joined this site and been reading lots of posts on here and what a brilliant informative site.....could anyone advise please on a good liver/support cleanse that would also be safe for a child to have also(my son is 13 he his registered blind and is also autistic) I would also want to do the liver cleanse also because i have been on prozac now for 20 yrs on/off and was told by the doctor that this type of medication is filtered through the liver and when ive had liver function blood tests the enzymes are alway high and then my GP will ask me if i drink lots of alcohol....i don,t drink at all so i find these results quite worrying......this scenario has happened quite a few times over the years.I also suffer from hypothyroid and it has never been stabilised in the 20 yrs i have had it.....i take 150mg daily need more but my body cannot tolerate even the slightest increase and 3 weeks ago i had i CT kidney scan with dye injected and had a bad reaction to it.....suffering very bad panic attacks and a rash on parts of my body aland also my T4 shot up to 20.4I am a member of a thyroid site and the lady who runs this site did put a post on this site asking for advice re: the CT scan and my bad reaction and a lady called from this site called stephanie did replySo looking forward to chatting lots more with everyone.Manda

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