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ahhh!

I missed the cleanse...can some send it to me privately??

thanks so much,

Dr. .

Liver cleanse

Hi everyone,

Since the issue of liver cleanse has been up I thought I would check in about

my experience:

I did Saul's recommended liver cleanse this past weekend and had great

results.

I started passing what looked like little peas Saturday night and this

continued until Monday evening.

I could feel the stones leave my liver or gallbladder, I am not sure which. It

felt the same as if I got a vitamin stuck at the beginning of my stomach and was

pushing through. I had a nasty headache Sunday which may have been from not

drinking coffee.

I passed so many of these stones I was amazed and very impressed! I must say

that I prefer drinking the olive oil and grapefruit juice over the epsom salts

any day. Since Monday I have felt great. This is the second liver cleanse I have

done with the first one two years ago.

My husband did the liver cleanse 2 weeks ago for the 1st time and he did not

get any pea looking stones at all but did release two things that looked like

dried up whole cloves of garlic (he does not eat whole cloves of garlic). He did

not investigate as to what was inside but it did have some black tar like

looking stuff stuck to it...

These cleanses are so powerful. I am hoping to do another in the next month or

so.

Jacqui

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Also missed the process - wife has been reading up, and wants to get going

on one, would really appreciate information.

Liver cleanse

>

>

> Hi everyone,

> Since the issue of liver cleanse has been up I thought I would check in

about my experience:

>

> I did Saul's recommended liver cleanse this past weekend and had great

results.

> I started passing what looked like little peas Saturday night and this

continued until Monday evening.

> I could feel the stones leave my liver or gallbladder, I am not sure

which. It felt the same as if I got a vitamin stuck at the beginning of my

stomach and was pushing through. I had a nasty headache Sunday which may

have been from not drinking coffee.

> I passed so many of these stones I was amazed and very impressed! I must

say that I prefer drinking the olive oil and grapefruit juice over the epsom

salts any day. Since Monday I have felt great. This is the second liver

cleanse I have done with the first one two years ago.

>

> My husband did the liver cleanse 2 weeks ago for the 1st time and he did

not get any pea looking stones at all but did release two things that looked

like dried up whole cloves of garlic (he does not eat whole cloves of

garlic). He did not investigate as to what was inside but it did have some

black tar like looking stuff stuck to it...

>

> These cleanses are so powerful. I am hoping to do another in the next

month or so.

>

> Jacqui

>

>

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Dear Jacqui,

Tell her to do the first one without those two juices.

Then on the next one, she may be less sensitive to the juices.

The beet is more important than the apple juice...

Best of health!

Dr. Saul Pressman

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----Original Message Follows----

From: " JACQUELINE I SINATRA " <klinksinat1@...>

Reply-oxyplus

oxyplus

Subject: Liver cleanse

Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2004 12:57:52 -0800

Saul,

There is a friend who wants to do a liver cleanse and has many food

allergies. She said she is allergic to apple and beet juice but wants to do

your suggested liver cleanse. Is there an alternative juice for her???

Thanks!

Jacqui

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Thanx Donna...

Reminds me tos tart taking burdock root again, I use Eclectic

Institute, a good blood cleanser.

Talked to Arthur...herbs might do it slowly, as he points out, but

liver flush is quick but not easy.

My bladder was improved today, tho it's still reacting to foods

(peanut butter tonight)...seems like there's some soreness or swollen

gland in that area still, can't tell...the whole thing was WEIRD and

upsetting but I guess slowly the herb's effects are wearing off.

My sauna is set up, folks! I have the ozonator connected to the 02

tank, with the pediatric regulator that goes click click click from

1/32nd...thru to 1/2...through to 4....etc...and the other tubing

connected to the sauna...the only time I'd have to change any tube

would be to do vaginal insufflation, that would take 2 secs...

I will probably get a sauna in on Friday as I have a bizness trip

tomorrow.

I'm really glad I did get the 02 tank. It was easy to get a cab down

to fill it, too.

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writes:

> So this morning I thought I would do it with just one cup of juice and 1

> T of olive oil and skip the water and garlic and ginger. Thought it

> would be less challenging. Well, it was easier to get down and I didn't

> feel nauseous, but I also didn't feel the cleansing and clearing that I

> felt yesterday and now my liver is burning and I feel sluggish and it

> just doesn't feel like as good of an experience as yesterday. So I think

> Schulze is onto something here and tomorrow I am going to go back to his

> method and stick with it for the full five days, which is what he

> recommends.

>

> Blessings

> Donna

> http://www.excellentthings.com

> p.s. Yes, burdock root is a nice blood purifyer. I have a bunch of it,

> but I feel inclined to do the chapparal, so I am going to pick up some

> bulk and do that tomorrow.

> I am also going to do some major doses of milk thistle as it helps the

> liver to let go of toxins and lets some toxins out of the hepatic loop.

> In addition it stimulates new liver cell growth and is just generally

> awesome for the liver.

>

Donna,

Did I tell you about the time I did the chapparal + goldenseal to help my

liver?

I guess I was just so toxic at that time, I couldn't go to work for 3 days.

I had a terrific cleansing going on there. Several of my friends did that

also and

they didn't feel a thing. Have you done the 2 together?

Edith

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Hi Jill. Thought I would report to you and the list my last two day

experiment with the morning liver flush. Yesterday I did Schulzes. One

cup of citrus juice (I used grapefruit)

one cup of water

1 T olive oil (I used Bariani from http://www.radiantlife4u.com)

1 garlic clove

1 piece ginger, same size as garlic.

I blended it in the blender and drank it down. It was not easy to get

down. It was a little bit of a fear factor moment. I just kept telling

myself I was going to win $50,000 if I got it down the fastest. I am

not sure why it seemed so hard. It was hot, from the garlic and

ginger. Not extremely so. And it was just alot of fluid to get down in

a short time. I felt a little nauseous for a few minutes but it passed

quickly and I went about my business. In about 15 minutes I started to

notice that my sinuses seemed more open than ususal. And I felt clear

headed and awake. I felt great. And in about two hours I did some

carrot juice and 8 Inner Garden Flora (http://www.rgarden.com) and

continued on with my day and it was good.

So this morning I thought I would do it with just one cup of juice and 1

T of olive oil and skip the water and garlic and ginger. Thought it

would be less challenging. Well, it was easier to get down and I didn't

feel nauseous, but I also didn't feel the cleansing and clearing that I

felt yesterday and now my liver is burning and I feel sluggish and it

just doesn't feel like as good of an experience as yesterday. So I think

Schulze is onto something here and tomorrow I am going to go back to his

method and stick with it for the full five days, which is what he

recommends.

Blessings

Donna

http://www.excellentthings.com

p.s. Yes, burdock root is a nice blood purifyer. I have a bunch of it,

but I feel inclined to do the chapparal, so I am going to pick up some

bulk and do that tomorrow.

I am also going to do some major doses of milk thistle as it helps the

liver to let go of toxins and lets some toxins out of the hepatic loop.

In addition it stimulates new liver cell growth and is just generally

awesome for the liver. One more comment below. . .

jill1313 wrote:

Thanx Donna...Reminds me tos tart taking burdock root again, I use

Eclectic Institute, a good blood cleanser.

Talked to Arthur...herbs might do it slowly, as he points out, but

liver flush is quick but not easy.

### Well, since your interest is the condition of your liver and not the

stones, I think that herbs and the morning flush could be what you are

looking for. ###

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Happy Birthday le!

I just have a quick question about the Liver Cleanse you have listed in your

Newsletter #19

How long are you suppose to do it? One day I hope!

I feel I may need to do this..as I was gravely ill last year..and was on heavy

antibiotics

I am having a hard time losing...thought this might help kick start me.

Thanks for your help!

Kelley

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C, Kiki, Bonnie, Liz, Connie, , R, Jenni, Wanda, Darlene,

Brennan, Melinda, Gaylynn and Amber, Mel and ,

I pray that I have not missed anyone who took the time to send a birthday

message to me. You are all so special to me I would never want to leave any one

of you out for anything.

I am back in town for a few days so I am hoping to catch up on your emails

today. Before I did anything else I really wanted to take the time to say how

much I appreciate all of you for thinking of me.

YOU are all the best birthday gift I could wish for.

Love you all,

Rashelle

Happy Birthday Rashelle...

I hope this day brings you lots of wonderful memories, filled with the love

and beauty that you spread to everyone you come in contact with...

Love you,

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so is it really that simple for a first timer.

I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

of the cleanse ??

And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

ivan

On Mar 27, 2007, at 8:51 PM, worth wrote:

> Saturday night I did my spring liver cleanse and I feel really good !

>

> I do it every fall & every spring...it's so rejuvenating!

>

> I just checked my records and I have done it 22 times since 1998!!

> I drink lots of unfiltered organic apple juice and eat extra apples

> for

> 4 days prior.

>

>

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Ivan

you said this:

.......................

so is it really that simple for a first timer.

I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

of the cleanse ??

And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

ivan

-------------------

Well Ivan, some people say do some parasite cleanses beforehand.

I never did that. You can eat a little solid food the day of the

cleanse

but nothing but water after 2 pm the day of the cleanse.

Are you in good health? Physically active?

Other than my sinus problems

and variccose veins, I have been pretty healthy.

I have never been overweight - I have always been

physically active. I am tall and thin

and I have always eaten lots of fresh fruits and vegetables

not much meat or junk foods or sugar and very little dairy ---so I did

not have any risk factors for gallstones.

I did a liver/gallstone cleanse in March of '98 for the first time.

I had no symptoms of gallstones prior to doing this

first flush, but I had

read that we ALL have gallstones and that it is good to get them OUT.

I had been reading about liver cleansing and

being curious and wanting to be in tip-top health, I proceeded with the

flush

and I DID indeed pass some gelatinous looking things that were greenish

none larger than a small pea. I felt lousey - bloated and

not hungry and tired the next day. But after that day, I felt great

until some months passed. In November of '98, I DID begin to have what I

read ARE some symptoms of gallstones -

an intermittent pain in the area of my liver,

bloating and belching and gas. No nausea but

an uncomfortable feeling after eating anything

with fat. Or with drinking coffee.

I then read that it is very important to do

SEVERAL liver

flushes about two - four weeks

apart, because as you get out the larger stones, the smaller ones move

forward & clog the

biliary ducts even more than the bigger ones did!!!

I even read as long as you get stones out,

keep flushing, no more often than 2 weeks apart.

It can take up to 9 flushes to get them all out!!!

I did not do enough reading before doing my

first flush in March of '98.

So since Nov '98, I have done 21 additional flushes.

I got stones and sludge and chaff out for the first 8 or 9

They got easier to do after each one.

I do a few coffee enemas afterwards.

I have not had any belching, bloating and gas or

pain since about my 3rd flush so I think

I got good results. I will continue to flush

each spring and fall to maintain results.

Also to eat even better.

Procedure :

For 5 days preceeding the liver/gallbladder flush, drink as much

organic apple juice

as you can stand...and eat organic apples!

First day:

1. 9:00 am: Eat a light breakfast of maybe fruit or oatmeal no milk

or butter;

and some apple juice

2. around 1:00 have a light lunch--salad and fruit maybe.

do not eat after 2:00 pm..you can drink water and apple juice up until

about 5 pm

3. at 4:00 pm: Mix 4 tablespoons of oral Epsom salts

in 3 cups of cold water in one jar, and refrigerate

4. 6:00 pm: Drink half of the cold Epsom salts mix

5. 8:00 pm: Drink the rest of the Epsom salts mix

6. 9:45 pm: Pour 1/2- 3/4 cup olive oil into the second jar; squeeze

out

3/4 cup grapefruit juice and add to the olive oil. Close

the jar lid and shake hard until watery.

7. Drink the potion. Lie down immediately. Lie still on

your back and go to sleep.

Second day:

Get up and drink some apple juice.

Eat a banana or an orange...

and have some tea.....

Many stones will be seen in the toilet upon the first bowel movement

after a liver cleanse.

Following a liver/gallbladder cleanse, it is useful to have

several coffee enemas

to pull further toxins that are stored in the liver.

To make the coffee enemas use orgainic coffee and distilled water.

Put 7 Tablespoons ground coffee into 11 cups of distilled

water in a large pot. Bring to a boil and boil 3 min.

Then reduce heat and simmer for 15 min. more.

Let it cool and strain. This is enough for

2 coffee enemas.

Repeat spring and fall.

On Wednesday, March 28, 2007, at 02:55 AM, oxyplus

wrote:

> so is it really that simple for a first timer.

> I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

> So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

> of the cleanse ??

> And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

> ivan

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,

Thanks for the info on liver cleanses. Are there any extra precaussions to

take if you have poor health and/or liver/gb pain? I've got both. Have had

ultrasounds, but nothing ever shows up.

Thanks,

worth <cworth@...> wrote:

Ivan

you said this:

.......................

so is it really that simple for a first timer.

I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

of the cleanse ??

And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

ivan

-------------------

Well Ivan, some people say do some parasite cleanses beforehand.

I never did that. You can eat a little solid food the day of the

cleanse

but nothing but water after 2 pm the day of the cleanse.

Are you in good health? Physically active?

Other than my sinus problems

and variccose veins, I have been pretty healthy.

I have never been overweight - I have always been

physically active. I am tall and thin

and I have always eaten lots of fresh fruits and vegetables

not much meat or junk foods or sugar and very little dairy ---so I did

not have any risk factors for gallstones.

I did a liver/gallstone cleanse in March of '98 for the first time.

I had no symptoms of gallstones prior to doing this

first flush, but I had

read that we ALL have gallstones and that it is good to get them OUT.

I had been reading about liver cleansing and

being curious and wanting to be in tip-top health, I proceeded with the

flush

and I DID indeed pass some gelatinous looking things that were greenish

none larger than a small pea. I felt lousey - bloated and

not hungry and tired the next day. But after that day, I felt great

until some months passed. In November of '98, I DID begin to have what I

read ARE some symptoms of gallstones -

an intermittent pain in the area of my liver,

bloating and belching and gas. No nausea but

an uncomfortable feeling after eating anything

with fat. Or with drinking coffee.

I then read that it is very important to do

SEVERAL liver

flushes about two - four weeks

apart, because as you get out the larger stones, the smaller ones move

forward & clog the

biliary ducts even more than the bigger ones did!!!

I even read as long as you get stones out,

keep flushing, no more often than 2 weeks apart.

It can take up to 9 flushes to get them all out!!!

I did not do enough reading before doing my

first flush in March of '98.

So since Nov '98, I have done 21 additional flushes.

I got stones and sludge and chaff out for the first 8 or 9

They got easier to do after each one.

I do a few coffee enemas afterwards.

I have not had any belching, bloating and gas or

pain since about my 3rd flush so I think

I got good results. I will continue to flush

each spring and fall to maintain results.

Also to eat even better.

Procedure :

For 5 days preceeding the liver/gallbladder flush, drink as much

organic apple juice

as you can stand...and eat organic apples!

First day:

1. 9:00 am: Eat a light breakfast of maybe fruit or oatmeal no milk

or butter;

and some apple juice

2. around 1:00 have a light lunch--salad and fruit maybe.

do not eat after 2:00 pm..you can drink water and apple juice up until

about 5 pm

3. at 4:00 pm: Mix 4 tablespoons of oral Epsom salts

in 3 cups of cold water in one jar, and refrigerate

4. 6:00 pm: Drink half of the cold Epsom salts mix

5. 8:00 pm: Drink the rest of the Epsom salts mix

6. 9:45 pm: Pour 1/2- 3/4 cup olive oil into the second jar; squeeze

out

3/4 cup grapefruit juice and add to the olive oil. Close

the jar lid and shake hard until watery.

7. Drink the potion. Lie down immediately. Lie still on

your back and go to sleep.

Second day:

Get up and drink some apple juice.

Eat a banana or an orange...

and have some tea.....

Many stones will be seen in the toilet upon the first bowel movement

after a liver cleanse.

Following a liver/gallbladder cleanse, it is useful to have

several coffee enemas

to pull further toxins that are stored in the liver.

To make the coffee enemas use orgainic coffee and distilled water.

Put 7 Tablespoons ground coffee into 11 cups of distilled

water in a large pot. Bring to a boil and boil 3 min.

Then reduce heat and simmer for 15 min. more.

Let it cool and strain. This is enough for

2 coffee enemas.

Repeat spring and fall.

On Wednesday, March 28, 2007, at 02:55 AM, oxyplus

wrote:

> so is it really that simple for a first timer.

> I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

> So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

> of the cleanse ??

> And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

> ivan

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,

Thanks for the info on liver cleanses. Are there any extra precaussions to

take if you have poor health and/or liver/gb pain? I've got both. Have had

ultrasounds, but nothing ever shows up.

Thanks,

worth <cworth@...> wrote:

Ivan

you said this:

.......................

so is it really that simple for a first timer.

I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

of the cleanse ??

And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

ivan

-------------------

Well Ivan, some people say do some parasite cleanses beforehand.

I never did that. You can eat a little solid food the day of the

cleanse

but nothing but water after 2 pm the day of the cleanse.

Are you in good health? Physically active?

Other than my sinus problems

and variccose veins, I have been pretty healthy.

I have never been overweight - I have always been

physically active. I am tall and thin

and I have always eaten lots of fresh fruits and vegetables

not much meat or junk foods or sugar and very little dairy ---so I did

not have any risk factors for gallstones.

I did a liver/gallstone cleanse in March of '98 for the first time.

I had no symptoms of gallstones prior to doing this

first flush, but I had

read that we ALL have gallstones and that it is good to get them OUT.

I had been reading about liver cleansing and

being curious and wanting to be in tip-top health, I proceeded with the

flush

and I DID indeed pass some gelatinous looking things that were greenish

none larger than a small pea. I felt lousey - bloated and

not hungry and tired the next day. But after that day, I felt great

until some months passed. In November of '98, I DID begin to have what I

read ARE some symptoms of gallstones -

an intermittent pain in the area of my liver,

bloating and belching and gas. No nausea but

an uncomfortable feeling after eating anything

with fat. Or with drinking coffee.

I then read that it is very important to do

SEVERAL liver

flushes about two - four weeks

apart, because as you get out the larger stones, the smaller ones move

forward & clog the

biliary ducts even more than the bigger ones did!!!

I even read as long as you get stones out,

keep flushing, no more often than 2 weeks apart.

It can take up to 9 flushes to get them all out!!!

I did not do enough reading before doing my

first flush in March of '98.

So since Nov '98, I have done 21 additional flushes.

I got stones and sludge and chaff out for the first 8 or 9

They got easier to do after each one.

I do a few coffee enemas afterwards.

I have not had any belching, bloating and gas or

pain since about my 3rd flush so I think

I got good results. I will continue to flush

each spring and fall to maintain results.

Also to eat even better.

Procedure :

For 5 days preceeding the liver/gallbladder flush, drink as much

organic apple juice

as you can stand...and eat organic apples!

First day:

1. 9:00 am: Eat a light breakfast of maybe fruit or oatmeal no milk

or butter;

and some apple juice

2. around 1:00 have a light lunch--salad and fruit maybe.

do not eat after 2:00 pm..you can drink water and apple juice up until

about 5 pm

3. at 4:00 pm: Mix 4 tablespoons of oral Epsom salts

in 3 cups of cold water in one jar, and refrigerate

4. 6:00 pm: Drink half of the cold Epsom salts mix

5. 8:00 pm: Drink the rest of the Epsom salts mix

6. 9:45 pm: Pour 1/2- 3/4 cup olive oil into the second jar; squeeze

out

3/4 cup grapefruit juice and add to the olive oil. Close

the jar lid and shake hard until watery.

7. Drink the potion. Lie down immediately. Lie still on

your back and go to sleep.

Second day:

Get up and drink some apple juice.

Eat a banana or an orange...

and have some tea.....

Many stones will be seen in the toilet upon the first bowel movement

after a liver cleanse.

Following a liver/gallbladder cleanse, it is useful to have

several coffee enemas

to pull further toxins that are stored in the liver.

To make the coffee enemas use orgainic coffee and distilled water.

Put 7 Tablespoons ground coffee into 11 cups of distilled

water in a large pot. Bring to a boil and boil 3 min.

Then reduce heat and simmer for 15 min. more.

Let it cool and strain. This is enough for

2 coffee enemas.

Repeat spring and fall.

On Wednesday, March 28, 2007, at 02:55 AM, oxyplus

wrote:

> so is it really that simple for a first timer.

> I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

> So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

> of the cleanse ??

> And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

> ivan

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Guest guest

,

Thanks for the info on liver cleanses. Are there any extra precaussions to

take if you have poor health and/or liver/gb pain? I've got both. Have had

ultrasounds, but nothing ever shows up.

Thanks,

worth <cworth@...> wrote:

Ivan

you said this:

.......................

so is it really that simple for a first timer.

I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

of the cleanse ??

And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

ivan

-------------------

Well Ivan, some people say do some parasite cleanses beforehand.

I never did that. You can eat a little solid food the day of the

cleanse

but nothing but water after 2 pm the day of the cleanse.

Are you in good health? Physically active?

Other than my sinus problems

and variccose veins, I have been pretty healthy.

I have never been overweight - I have always been

physically active. I am tall and thin

and I have always eaten lots of fresh fruits and vegetables

not much meat or junk foods or sugar and very little dairy ---so I did

not have any risk factors for gallstones.

I did a liver/gallstone cleanse in March of '98 for the first time.

I had no symptoms of gallstones prior to doing this

first flush, but I had

read that we ALL have gallstones and that it is good to get them OUT.

I had been reading about liver cleansing and

being curious and wanting to be in tip-top health, I proceeded with the

flush

and I DID indeed pass some gelatinous looking things that were greenish

none larger than a small pea. I felt lousey - bloated and

not hungry and tired the next day. But after that day, I felt great

until some months passed. In November of '98, I DID begin to have what I

read ARE some symptoms of gallstones -

an intermittent pain in the area of my liver,

bloating and belching and gas. No nausea but

an uncomfortable feeling after eating anything

with fat. Or with drinking coffee.

I then read that it is very important to do

SEVERAL liver

flushes about two - four weeks

apart, because as you get out the larger stones, the smaller ones move

forward & clog the

biliary ducts even more than the bigger ones did!!!

I even read as long as you get stones out,

keep flushing, no more often than 2 weeks apart.

It can take up to 9 flushes to get them all out!!!

I did not do enough reading before doing my

first flush in March of '98.

So since Nov '98, I have done 21 additional flushes.

I got stones and sludge and chaff out for the first 8 or 9

They got easier to do after each one.

I do a few coffee enemas afterwards.

I have not had any belching, bloating and gas or

pain since about my 3rd flush so I think

I got good results. I will continue to flush

each spring and fall to maintain results.

Also to eat even better.

Procedure :

For 5 days preceeding the liver/gallbladder flush, drink as much

organic apple juice

as you can stand...and eat organic apples!

First day:

1. 9:00 am: Eat a light breakfast of maybe fruit or oatmeal no milk

or butter;

and some apple juice

2. around 1:00 have a light lunch--salad and fruit maybe.

do not eat after 2:00 pm..you can drink water and apple juice up until

about 5 pm

3. at 4:00 pm: Mix 4 tablespoons of oral Epsom salts

in 3 cups of cold water in one jar, and refrigerate

4. 6:00 pm: Drink half of the cold Epsom salts mix

5. 8:00 pm: Drink the rest of the Epsom salts mix

6. 9:45 pm: Pour 1/2- 3/4 cup olive oil into the second jar; squeeze

out

3/4 cup grapefruit juice and add to the olive oil. Close

the jar lid and shake hard until watery.

7. Drink the potion. Lie down immediately. Lie still on

your back and go to sleep.

Second day:

Get up and drink some apple juice.

Eat a banana or an orange...

and have some tea.....

Many stones will be seen in the toilet upon the first bowel movement

after a liver cleanse.

Following a liver/gallbladder cleanse, it is useful to have

several coffee enemas

to pull further toxins that are stored in the liver.

To make the coffee enemas use orgainic coffee and distilled water.

Put 7 Tablespoons ground coffee into 11 cups of distilled

water in a large pot. Bring to a boil and boil 3 min.

Then reduce heat and simmer for 15 min. more.

Let it cool and strain. This is enough for

2 coffee enemas.

Repeat spring and fall.

On Wednesday, March 28, 2007, at 02:55 AM, oxyplus

wrote:

> so is it really that simple for a first timer.

> I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

> So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

> of the cleanse ??

> And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

> ivan

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,

Thanks for the info on liver cleanses. Are there any extra precaussions to

take if you have poor health and/or liver/gb pain? I've got both. Have had

ultrasounds, but nothing ever shows up.

Thanks,

worth <cworth@...> wrote:

Ivan

you said this:

.......................

so is it really that simple for a first timer.

I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

of the cleanse ??

And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

ivan

-------------------

Well Ivan, some people say do some parasite cleanses beforehand.

I never did that. You can eat a little solid food the day of the

cleanse

but nothing but water after 2 pm the day of the cleanse.

Are you in good health? Physically active?

Other than my sinus problems

and variccose veins, I have been pretty healthy.

I have never been overweight - I have always been

physically active. I am tall and thin

and I have always eaten lots of fresh fruits and vegetables

not much meat or junk foods or sugar and very little dairy ---so I did

not have any risk factors for gallstones.

I did a liver/gallstone cleanse in March of '98 for the first time.

I had no symptoms of gallstones prior to doing this

first flush, but I had

read that we ALL have gallstones and that it is good to get them OUT.

I had been reading about liver cleansing and

being curious and wanting to be in tip-top health, I proceeded with the

flush

and I DID indeed pass some gelatinous looking things that were greenish

none larger than a small pea. I felt lousey - bloated and

not hungry and tired the next day. But after that day, I felt great

until some months passed. In November of '98, I DID begin to have what I

read ARE some symptoms of gallstones -

an intermittent pain in the area of my liver,

bloating and belching and gas. No nausea but

an uncomfortable feeling after eating anything

with fat. Or with drinking coffee.

I then read that it is very important to do

SEVERAL liver

flushes about two - four weeks

apart, because as you get out the larger stones, the smaller ones move

forward & clog the

biliary ducts even more than the bigger ones did!!!

I even read as long as you get stones out,

keep flushing, no more often than 2 weeks apart.

It can take up to 9 flushes to get them all out!!!

I did not do enough reading before doing my

first flush in March of '98.

So since Nov '98, I have done 21 additional flushes.

I got stones and sludge and chaff out for the first 8 or 9

They got easier to do after each one.

I do a few coffee enemas afterwards.

I have not had any belching, bloating and gas or

pain since about my 3rd flush so I think

I got good results. I will continue to flush

each spring and fall to maintain results.

Also to eat even better.

Procedure :

For 5 days preceeding the liver/gallbladder flush, drink as much

organic apple juice

as you can stand...and eat organic apples!

First day:

1. 9:00 am: Eat a light breakfast of maybe fruit or oatmeal no milk

or butter;

and some apple juice

2. around 1:00 have a light lunch--salad and fruit maybe.

do not eat after 2:00 pm..you can drink water and apple juice up until

about 5 pm

3. at 4:00 pm: Mix 4 tablespoons of oral Epsom salts

in 3 cups of cold water in one jar, and refrigerate

4. 6:00 pm: Drink half of the cold Epsom salts mix

5. 8:00 pm: Drink the rest of the Epsom salts mix

6. 9:45 pm: Pour 1/2- 3/4 cup olive oil into the second jar; squeeze

out

3/4 cup grapefruit juice and add to the olive oil. Close

the jar lid and shake hard until watery.

7. Drink the potion. Lie down immediately. Lie still on

your back and go to sleep.

Second day:

Get up and drink some apple juice.

Eat a banana or an orange...

and have some tea.....

Many stones will be seen in the toilet upon the first bowel movement

after a liver cleanse.

Following a liver/gallbladder cleanse, it is useful to have

several coffee enemas

to pull further toxins that are stored in the liver.

To make the coffee enemas use orgainic coffee and distilled water.

Put 7 Tablespoons ground coffee into 11 cups of distilled

water in a large pot. Bring to a boil and boil 3 min.

Then reduce heat and simmer for 15 min. more.

Let it cool and strain. This is enough for

2 coffee enemas.

Repeat spring and fall.

On Wednesday, March 28, 2007, at 02:55 AM, oxyplus

wrote:

> so is it really that simple for a first timer.

> I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

> So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

> of the cleanse ??

> And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

> ivan

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,

Thanks for the info on liver cleanses. Are there any extra precaussions to

take if you have poor health and/or liver/gb pain? I've got both. Have had

ultrasounds, but nothing ever shows up.

Thanks,

worth <cworth@...> wrote:

Ivan

you said this:

.......................

so is it really that simple for a first timer.

I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

of the cleanse ??

And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

ivan

-------------------

Well Ivan, some people say do some parasite cleanses beforehand.

I never did that. You can eat a little solid food the day of the

cleanse

but nothing but water after 2 pm the day of the cleanse.

Are you in good health? Physically active?

Other than my sinus problems

and variccose veins, I have been pretty healthy.

I have never been overweight - I have always been

physically active. I am tall and thin

and I have always eaten lots of fresh fruits and vegetables

not much meat or junk foods or sugar and very little dairy ---so I did

not have any risk factors for gallstones.

I did a liver/gallstone cleanse in March of '98 for the first time.

I had no symptoms of gallstones prior to doing this

first flush, but I had

read that we ALL have gallstones and that it is good to get them OUT.

I had been reading about liver cleansing and

being curious and wanting to be in tip-top health, I proceeded with the

flush

and I DID indeed pass some gelatinous looking things that were greenish

none larger than a small pea. I felt lousey - bloated and

not hungry and tired the next day. But after that day, I felt great

until some months passed. In November of '98, I DID begin to have what I

read ARE some symptoms of gallstones -

an intermittent pain in the area of my liver,

bloating and belching and gas. No nausea but

an uncomfortable feeling after eating anything

with fat. Or with drinking coffee.

I then read that it is very important to do

SEVERAL liver

flushes about two - four weeks

apart, because as you get out the larger stones, the smaller ones move

forward & clog the

biliary ducts even more than the bigger ones did!!!

I even read as long as you get stones out,

keep flushing, no more often than 2 weeks apart.

It can take up to 9 flushes to get them all out!!!

I did not do enough reading before doing my

first flush in March of '98.

So since Nov '98, I have done 21 additional flushes.

I got stones and sludge and chaff out for the first 8 or 9

They got easier to do after each one.

I do a few coffee enemas afterwards.

I have not had any belching, bloating and gas or

pain since about my 3rd flush so I think

I got good results. I will continue to flush

each spring and fall to maintain results.

Also to eat even better.

Procedure :

For 5 days preceeding the liver/gallbladder flush, drink as much

organic apple juice

as you can stand...and eat organic apples!

First day:

1. 9:00 am: Eat a light breakfast of maybe fruit or oatmeal no milk

or butter;

and some apple juice

2. around 1:00 have a light lunch--salad and fruit maybe.

do not eat after 2:00 pm..you can drink water and apple juice up until

about 5 pm

3. at 4:00 pm: Mix 4 tablespoons of oral Epsom salts

in 3 cups of cold water in one jar, and refrigerate

4. 6:00 pm: Drink half of the cold Epsom salts mix

5. 8:00 pm: Drink the rest of the Epsom salts mix

6. 9:45 pm: Pour 1/2- 3/4 cup olive oil into the second jar; squeeze

out

3/4 cup grapefruit juice and add to the olive oil. Close

the jar lid and shake hard until watery.

7. Drink the potion. Lie down immediately. Lie still on

your back and go to sleep.

Second day:

Get up and drink some apple juice.

Eat a banana or an orange...

and have some tea.....

Many stones will be seen in the toilet upon the first bowel movement

after a liver cleanse.

Following a liver/gallbladder cleanse, it is useful to have

several coffee enemas

to pull further toxins that are stored in the liver.

To make the coffee enemas use orgainic coffee and distilled water.

Put 7 Tablespoons ground coffee into 11 cups of distilled

water in a large pot. Bring to a boil and boil 3 min.

Then reduce heat and simmer for 15 min. more.

Let it cool and strain. This is enough for

2 coffee enemas.

Repeat spring and fall.

On Wednesday, March 28, 2007, at 02:55 AM, oxyplus

wrote:

> so is it really that simple for a first timer.

> I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

> So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

> of the cleanse ??

> And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

> ivan

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All i can say to is, WOW, and thanks.

ivan

On Mar 28, 2007, at 7:26 AM, worth wrote:

> Ivan

>

> you said this:

> ......................

> so is it really that simple for a first timer.

> I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

> So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

> of the cleanse ??

> And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

> ivan

> -------------------

>

> Well Ivan, some people say do some parasite cleanses beforehand.

> I never did that. You can eat a little solid food the day of the

> cleanse

> but nothing but water after 2 pm the day of the cleanse.

>

> Are you in good health? Physically active?

> Other than my sinus problems

> and variccose veins, I have been pretty healthy.

> I have never been overweight - I have always been

> physically active. I am tall and thin

> and I have always eaten lots of fresh fruits and vegetables

> not much meat or junk foods or sugar and very little dairy ---so I did

> not have any risk factors for gallstones.

>

> I did a liver/gallstone cleanse in March of '98 for the first time.

> I had no symptoms of gallstones prior to doing this

> first flush, but I had

> read that we ALL have gallstones and that it is good to get them OUT.

> I had been reading about liver cleansing and

> being curious and wanting to be in tip-top health, I proceeded with

> the

> flush

> and I DID indeed pass some gelatinous looking things that were

> greenish

> none larger than a small pea. I felt lousey - bloated and

> not hungry and tired the next day. But after that day, I felt great

> until some months passed. In November of '98, I DID begin to have

> what I

> read ARE some symptoms of gallstones -

> an intermittent pain in the area of my liver,

> bloating and belching and gas. No nausea but

> an uncomfortable feeling after eating anything

> with fat. Or with drinking coffee.

>

> I then read that it is very important to do

> SEVERAL liver

> flushes about two - four weeks

> apart, because as you get out the larger stones, the smaller ones move

> forward & clog the

> biliary ducts even more than the bigger ones did!!!

> I even read as long as you get stones out,

> keep flushing, no more often than 2 weeks apart.

> It can take up to 9 flushes to get them all out!!!

> I did not do enough reading before doing my

> first flush in March of '98.

>

> So since Nov '98, I have done 21 additional flushes.

> I got stones and sludge and chaff out for the first 8 or 9

>

> They got easier to do after each one.

> I do a few coffee enemas afterwards.

> I have not had any belching, bloating and gas or

> pain since about my 3rd flush so I think

> I got good results. I will continue to flush

> each spring and fall to maintain results.

> Also to eat even better.

>

> Procedure :

>

> For 5 days preceeding the liver/gallbladder flush, drink as much

> organic apple juice

> as you can stand...and eat organic apples!

>

> First day:

>

> 1. 9:00 am: Eat a light breakfast of maybe fruit or oatmeal no milk

> or butter;

> and some apple juice

>

> 2. around 1:00 have a light lunch--salad and fruit maybe.

>

> do not eat after 2:00 pm..you can drink water and apple juice up until

> about 5 pm

>

> 3. at 4:00 pm: Mix 4 tablespoons of oral Epsom salts

> in 3 cups of cold water in one jar, and refrigerate

>

> 4. 6:00 pm: Drink half of the cold Epsom salts mix

> 5. 8:00 pm: Drink the rest of the Epsom salts mix

>

> 6. 9:45 pm: Pour 1/2- 3/4 cup olive oil into the second jar;

> squeeze

> out

> 3/4 cup grapefruit juice and add to the olive oil.

> Close

> the jar lid and shake hard until watery.

>

> 7. Drink the potion. Lie down immediately. Lie still on

> your back and go to sleep.

>

> Second day:

>

>

> Get up and drink some apple juice.

> Eat a banana or an orange...

> and have some tea.....

>

> Many stones will be seen in the toilet upon the first bowel movement

> after a liver cleanse.

> Following a liver/gallbladder cleanse, it is useful to have

> several coffee enemas

> to pull further toxins that are stored in the liver.

>

> To make the coffee enemas use orgainic coffee and distilled water.

> Put 7 Tablespoons ground coffee into 11 cups of distilled

> water in a large pot. Bring to a boil and boil 3 min.

> Then reduce heat and simmer for 15 min. more.

> Let it cool and strain. This is enough for

> 2 coffee enemas.

>

> Repeat spring and fall.

>

>

>

> On Wednesday, March 28, 2007, at 02:55 AM, oxyplus

> wrote:

>

>> so is it really that simple for a first timer.

>> I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

>> So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

>> of the cleanse ??

>> And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

>> ivan

>

>

>

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,

I am no expert on these cleanses. Maybe you do need

to be careful..?....

You may want to first try the mild liver flush below--?--

and see if that gives you some relief...?

--------------------------

MILD LIVER FLUSH

Use the mild liver flush daily for one-week minimum.  Some with more

serious conditions may continue this flush

daily for several weeks without problems.

Do the mild liver flush when you first get up in the morning because

the stomach is empty at that time.  Make the flush as follows:

            8 oz of fresh citrus juices (e.g. oranges or grapefruit).

 Add fresh lemon juice if you wish.

            (alternatively, use organically grown, unfiltered

applejuice)

            8 oz distilled water

            1 clove of garlic

            1 tablespoon of olive oil

            1 chunk of fresh ginger (about the size of your thumb nail)

Crush the garlic clove to remove the dry skin layers.  Toss all

ingredients into a blender, blend until liquified and drink.

As you are able increase the olive oil to 4 tablespoons and the garlic

to 4 cloves (large is best).  

You may also need to increase the size of the piece of ginger.

 (Ginger stops nausea).

You may " chase " the flush with a few ounces of fresh orange juice or

apple juice.  

Drink lots of water after as well.

.............................

,

Thanks for the info on liver cleanses. Are there any extra precaussions

to take if you have poor health and/or liver/gb pain? I've got both.

Have had ultrasounds, but nothing ever shows up.

Thanks,

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,

I am no expert on these cleanses. Maybe you do need

to be careful..?....

You may want to first try the mild liver flush below--?--

and see if that gives you some relief...?

--------------------------

MILD LIVER FLUSH

Use the mild liver flush daily for one-week minimum.  Some with more

serious conditions may continue this flush

daily for several weeks without problems.

Do the mild liver flush when you first get up in the morning because

the stomach is empty at that time.  Make the flush as follows:

            8 oz of fresh citrus juices (e.g. oranges or grapefruit).

 Add fresh lemon juice if you wish.

            (alternatively, use organically grown, unfiltered

applejuice)

            8 oz distilled water

            1 clove of garlic

            1 tablespoon of olive oil

            1 chunk of fresh ginger (about the size of your thumb nail)

Crush the garlic clove to remove the dry skin layers.  Toss all

ingredients into a blender, blend until liquified and drink.

As you are able increase the olive oil to 4 tablespoons and the garlic

to 4 cloves (large is best).  

You may also need to increase the size of the piece of ginger.

 (Ginger stops nausea).

You may " chase " the flush with a few ounces of fresh orange juice or

apple juice.  

Drink lots of water after as well.

.............................

,

Thanks for the info on liver cleanses. Are there any extra precaussions

to take if you have poor health and/or liver/gb pain? I've got both.

Have had ultrasounds, but nothing ever shows up.

Thanks,

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Guest guest

,

I am no expert on these cleanses. Maybe you do need

to be careful..?....

You may want to first try the mild liver flush below--?--

and see if that gives you some relief...?

--------------------------

MILD LIVER FLUSH

Use the mild liver flush daily for one-week minimum.  Some with more

serious conditions may continue this flush

daily for several weeks without problems.

Do the mild liver flush when you first get up in the morning because

the stomach is empty at that time.  Make the flush as follows:

            8 oz of fresh citrus juices (e.g. oranges or grapefruit).

 Add fresh lemon juice if you wish.

            (alternatively, use organically grown, unfiltered

applejuice)

            8 oz distilled water

            1 clove of garlic

            1 tablespoon of olive oil

            1 chunk of fresh ginger (about the size of your thumb nail)

Crush the garlic clove to remove the dry skin layers.  Toss all

ingredients into a blender, blend until liquified and drink.

As you are able increase the olive oil to 4 tablespoons and the garlic

to 4 cloves (large is best).  

You may also need to increase the size of the piece of ginger.

 (Ginger stops nausea).

You may " chase " the flush with a few ounces of fresh orange juice or

apple juice.  

Drink lots of water after as well.

.............................

,

Thanks for the info on liver cleanses. Are there any extra precaussions

to take if you have poor health and/or liver/gb pain? I've got both.

Have had ultrasounds, but nothing ever shows up.

Thanks,

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Guest guest

,

I am no expert on these cleanses. Maybe you do need

to be careful..?....

You may want to first try the mild liver flush below--?--

and see if that gives you some relief...?

--------------------------

MILD LIVER FLUSH

Use the mild liver flush daily for one-week minimum.  Some with more

serious conditions may continue this flush

daily for several weeks without problems.

Do the mild liver flush when you first get up in the morning because

the stomach is empty at that time.  Make the flush as follows:

            8 oz of fresh citrus juices (e.g. oranges or grapefruit).

 Add fresh lemon juice if you wish.

            (alternatively, use organically grown, unfiltered

applejuice)

            8 oz distilled water

            1 clove of garlic

            1 tablespoon of olive oil

            1 chunk of fresh ginger (about the size of your thumb nail)

Crush the garlic clove to remove the dry skin layers.  Toss all

ingredients into a blender, blend until liquified and drink.

As you are able increase the olive oil to 4 tablespoons and the garlic

to 4 cloves (large is best).  

You may also need to increase the size of the piece of ginger.

 (Ginger stops nausea).

You may " chase " the flush with a few ounces of fresh orange juice or

apple juice.  

Drink lots of water after as well.

.............................

,

Thanks for the info on liver cleanses. Are there any extra precaussions

to take if you have poor health and/or liver/gb pain? I've got both.

Have had ultrasounds, but nothing ever shows up.

Thanks,

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Guest guest

,

I am no expert on these cleanses. Maybe you do need

to be careful..?....

You may want to first try the mild liver flush below--?--

and see if that gives you some relief...?

--------------------------

MILD LIVER FLUSH

Use the mild liver flush daily for one-week minimum.  Some with more

serious conditions may continue this flush

daily for several weeks without problems.

Do the mild liver flush when you first get up in the morning because

the stomach is empty at that time.  Make the flush as follows:

            8 oz of fresh citrus juices (e.g. oranges or grapefruit).

 Add fresh lemon juice if you wish.

            (alternatively, use organically grown, unfiltered

applejuice)

            8 oz distilled water

            1 clove of garlic

            1 tablespoon of olive oil

            1 chunk of fresh ginger (about the size of your thumb nail)

Crush the garlic clove to remove the dry skin layers.  Toss all

ingredients into a blender, blend until liquified and drink.

As you are able increase the olive oil to 4 tablespoons and the garlic

to 4 cloves (large is best).  

You may also need to increase the size of the piece of ginger.

 (Ginger stops nausea).

You may " chase " the flush with a few ounces of fresh orange juice or

apple juice.  

Drink lots of water after as well.

.............................

,

Thanks for the info on liver cleanses. Are there any extra precaussions

to take if you have poor health and/or liver/gb pain? I've got both.

Have had ultrasounds, but nothing ever shows up.

Thanks,

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this is the good stuff....

i've been trying to get some feedback from real life people who went through the

liver flushes, and came out the other side with restored bile flow.

what i'm most interested in is after the bile flow was restored and you went

back to normal, what was the diet that seemed to work best. no meat? meat? more

fat? less fat?

i have some suspicions that long term low fat diets contribute to stasis in the

bile flow, but no anecdotal proof.

there is alot of controversy as to what diet causes the stones. if we could hear

from 10 or 20 people it might shed some light on this.

saul, of the 100-200 people that you cited that did the flushes and recovered,

was there any significant pattern as far as what diet they gravitated toward

after they recovered.

Re: Re: liver cleanse

,

Thanks for the info on liver cleanses. Are there any extra precaussions to

take if you have poor health and/or liver/gb pain? I've got both. Have had

ultrasounds, but nothing ever shows up.

Thanks,

worth <cworth@...> wrote:

Ivan

you said this:

......................

so is it really that simple for a first timer.

I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

of the cleanse ??

And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

ivan

-------------------

Well Ivan, some people say do some parasite cleanses beforehand.

I never did that. You can eat a little solid food the day of the

cleanse

but nothing but water after 2 pm the day of the cleanse.

Are you in good health? Physically active?

Other than my sinus problems

and variccose veins, I have been pretty healthy.

I have never been overweight - I have always been

physically active. I am tall and thin

and I have always eaten lots of fresh fruits and vegetables

not much meat or junk foods or sugar and very little dairy ---so I did

not have any risk factors for gallstones.

I did a liver/gallstone cleanse in March of '98 for the first time.

I had no symptoms of gallstones prior to doing this

first flush, but I had

read that we ALL have gallstones and that it is good to get them OUT.

I had been reading about liver cleansing and

being curious and wanting to be in tip-top health, I proceeded with the

flush

and I DID indeed pass some gelatinous looking things that were greenish

none larger than a small pea. I felt lousey - bloated and

not hungry and tired the next day. But after that day, I felt great

until some months passed. In November of '98, I DID begin to have what I

read ARE some symptoms of gallstones -

an intermittent pain in the area of my liver,

bloating and belching and gas. No nausea but

an uncomfortable feeling after eating anything

with fat. Or with drinking coffee.

I then read that it is very important to do

SEVERAL liver

flushes about two - four weeks

apart, because as you get out the larger stones, the smaller ones move

forward & clog the

biliary ducts even more than the bigger ones did!!!

I even read as long as you get stones out,

keep flushing, no more often than 2 weeks apart.

It can take up to 9 flushes to get them all out!!!

I did not do enough reading before doing my

first flush in March of '98.

So since Nov '98, I have done 21 additional flushes.

I got stones and sludge and chaff out for the first 8 or 9

They got easier to do after each one.

I do a few coffee enemas afterwards.

I have not had any belching, bloating and gas or

pain since about my 3rd flush so I think

I got good results. I will continue to flush

each spring and fall to maintain results.

Also to eat even better.

Procedure :

For 5 days preceeding the liver/gallbladder flush, drink as much

organic apple juice

as you can stand...and eat organic apples!

First day:

1. 9:00 am: Eat a light breakfast of maybe fruit or oatmeal no milk

or butter;

and some apple juice

2. around 1:00 have a light lunch--salad and fruit maybe.

do not eat after 2:00 pm..you can drink water and apple juice up until

about 5 pm

3. at 4:00 pm: Mix 4 tablespoons of oral Epsom salts

in 3 cups of cold water in one jar, and refrigerate

4. 6:00 pm: Drink half of the cold Epsom salts mix

5. 8:00 pm: Drink the rest of the Epsom salts mix

6. 9:45 pm: Pour 1/2- 3/4 cup olive oil into the second jar; squeeze

out

3/4 cup grapefruit juice and add to the olive oil. Close

the jar lid and shake hard until watery.

7. Drink the potion. Lie down immediately. Lie still on

your back and go to sleep.

Second day:

Get up and drink some apple juice.

Eat a banana or an orange...

and have some tea.....

Many stones will be seen in the toilet upon the first bowel movement

after a liver cleanse.

Following a liver/gallbladder cleanse, it is useful to have

several coffee enemas

to pull further toxins that are stored in the liver.

To make the coffee enemas use orgainic coffee and distilled water.

Put 7 Tablespoons ground coffee into 11 cups of distilled

water in a large pot. Bring to a boil and boil 3 min.

Then reduce heat and simmer for 15 min. more.

Let it cool and strain. This is enough for

2 coffee enemas.

Repeat spring and fall.

On Wednesday, March 28, 2007, at 02:55 AM, oxyplus

wrote:

> so is it really that simple for a first timer.

> I weigh about 150lb and am 5ft 3in short.

> So besides the apple prep how much apple juice should i drink the day

> of the cleanse ??

> And should i do anything else like not eat solid food ?

> ivan

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Personally, after trying many cleanses, I've found that liquid zeolite

was most helpful. I've done Hulda , coffee enemas, herbal

cleanses, ionic foot baths (also quite good since it improves organ

function but it will take some minerals from the body).

I went to the Chicago Health Freedom Expo last weekend and my

colleague spoke to a doctor who had done a study with hep c and found

the zeolite to be extremely helpful. I think she got his contact info

so hopefully I can find out more about it. So far I've heard of at

least 5 people dropping their viral loads by huge amounts (not a cure

since it doesn't eliminate the virus) after using liquid zeolite which

would indicate to me that it is an excellent product for the liver.

This is just my personal experience. I realize that some on this

group think the zeolite is just a scam but many medical professionals

are using it with great results. Testing showed an increase in

excretion of metals of 7-12 times the placebo amount in West Virginia

coal miners.

Sharon

>

> What is the best liver cleanse considered to be?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> **************************************

> See what's free at

> http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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From: cures for cancer [mailto:cures for cancer ] On

Behalf Of Sharon

Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:01 AM

cures for cancer

Subject: Re: Liver Cleanse

,

Personally, after trying many cleanses, I've found that liquid zeolite

was most helpful. I've done Hulda , coffee enemas, herbal

cleanses, ionic foot baths (also quite good since it improves organ

function but it will take some minerals from the body).

I went to the Chicago Health Freedom Expo last weekend and my

colleague spoke to a doctor who had done a study with hep c and found

the zeolite to be extremely helpful. I think she got his contact info

so hopefully I can find out more about it. So far I've heard of at

least 5 people dropping their viral loads by huge amounts (not a cure

since it doesn't eliminate the virus) after using liquid zeolite which

would indicate to me that it is an excellent product for the liver.

This is just my personal experience. I realize that some on this

group think the zeolite is just a scam but many medical professionals

are using it with great results. Testing showed an increase in

excretion of metals of 7-12 times the placebo amount in West Virginia

coal miners.

Sharon

>

> What is the best liver cleanse considered to be?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> **************************************

> See what's free at

> http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com.> com.

>

>

>

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Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 8:32 PM

cures for cancer

Subject: RE: Re: Liver Cleanse

If anyone would like more info on the liquid zeolite, please visit the

website

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ife.com/>

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Behalf Of Sharon

Sent: Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:01 AM

cures for cancer@gro <mailto:cures for cancer%40> ups.com

Subject: Re: Liver Cleanse

,

Personally, after trying many cleanses, I've found that liquid zeolite

was most helpful. I've done Hulda , coffee enemas, herbal

cleanses, ionic foot baths (also quite good since it improves organ

function but it will take some minerals from the body).

I went to the Chicago Health Freedom Expo last weekend and my

colleague spoke to a doctor who had done a study with hep c and found

the zeolite to be extremely helpful. I think she got his contact info

so hopefully I can find out more about it. So far I've heard of at

least 5 people dropping their viral loads by huge amounts (not a cure

since it doesn't eliminate the virus) after using liquid zeolite which

would indicate to me that it is an excellent product for the liver.

This is just my personal experience. I realize that some on this

group think the zeolite is just a scam but many medical professionals

are using it with great results. Testing showed an increase in

excretion of metals of 7-12 times the placebo amount in West Virginia

coal miners.

Sharon

>

> What is the best liver cleanse considered to be?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

> **************************************

> See what's free at

> http://www.aol. <http://www.aol. <http://www.aol.com.> com.> com.

>

>

>

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