Re: Welcome to Vaccinations@onelist.com

[Guest guest]

>Hi Everyone - I'm glad I found this list. I hope I can get some good

>information here. I have two boys, ages 12 and 6. My older son went

through

>the normal childhood vaccination routine, and I never questioned it too

much.

> My husband is a nurse practitioner and I am a registered nurse. We are

both

>trained in the medical model and never really questioned the vaccines.

They

>were required for school and so he got them. The only thing he didn't get

>was the hepatitis B vaccine. I figured if I could work for 10 years as an

>emergency room nurse without it, then he didn't need it either. Since it

is

>a series of 3 shots, I just decided against it. He was never in daycare.

>

>My younger child is 6 and he also had the routine vaccines in infancy,

>although I did not get the hepatitis vaccine for him either. But we have

>been homeschooling both boys for the past 1-1/2 years, so he has never

>attended public school. I have not gotten the " required " kindergarten

shots

>for him and the longer he goes without them, the more I have been

rethinking

>the whole vaccination thing. I have recently begun trying to get more

>informed about the dangers of vaccines and the political issues behind

>mandatory vaccine laws.

>

>Everyone in my family thinks I'm nuts and can't understand why he hasn't

had

>his 5-year-old vaccines yet.

>

>Any advice, information or support would be greatly appreciated.

>

>Sincerely,

>Becca

Hi, my last two kids (2 & 5) haven't been vaccinated.

The vaccine industry is run by a drug company--Merck in the main.

Businessmen don't make good health advisors.

Books/videos http://www.whale.to/Vaccines/books.html

Video excellent.

On line book is also good.

Wise to miss the hep B vaccine http://www.whale.to/Vaccines/hepatitis.html

Disease theory http://www.whale.to/Disease_Theory.html

www.whale.to

[Guest guest]

Hello-this is my intro. note,

My name is and my husband Joe and I have 2 children, Jake who is 4

and Molly 5months. jake had a reaction to his first DPT-high pitched

screaming that stopped and started for hrs. and his leg was all swollen and

red for days. His Dr. at that time talked us into the acellular DPT for the

second dose which I found out soon after that that it was not approved for

children under 18 months at that time. After I did some research and talked

to a neighbor whose daughter ended up in awalker and now is in a wheel chair

with a feeding tube and can't speak, we decided to hold off on any further

vaccinations. Molly was born at home and our family doctor is very

supportive of our decision. We also have a homeopathic Dr and she has

written us medical exemptions for Jakes pre-school. Our next hurdle will be

Kindergarden and our school choice-we may possiblly send Jake to a catholic

school. I know a med. exemption for public school probobly would not be an

issue but private schools don't have to take you. I look forward to learning

more about immunizations and the most current research.

[Guest guest]

The Catholic church is sometimes understanind to the fact that some of the

vaccines are made from aborted fetal cells. I have an exemption letter written

by a Catholic friend of mine if you need it. I'd have to type it in AND I have

aborted fetal information I'm trying to get on my web page. It all takes time

Kel

LiteMarek@... wrote:

> From: LiteMarek@...

>

> Hello-this is my intro. note,

> My name is and my husband Joe and I have 2 children, Jake who is 4

> and Molly 5months. jake had a reaction to his first DPT-high pitched

> screaming that stopped and started for hrs. and his leg was all swollen and

> red for days. His Dr. at that time talked us into the acellular DPT for the

> second dose which I found out soon after that that it was not approved for

> children under 18 months at that time. After I did some research and talked

> to a neighbor whose daughter ended up in awalker and now is in a wheel chair

> with a feeding tube and can't speak, we decided to hold off on any further

> vaccinations. Molly was born at home and our family doctor is very

> supportive of our decision. We also have a homeopathic Dr and she has

> written us medical exemptions for Jakes pre-school. Our next hurdle will be

> Kindergarden and our school choice-we may possiblly send Jake to a catholic

> school. I know a med. exemption for public school probobly would not be an

> issue but private schools don't have to take you. I look forward to learning

> more about immunizations and the most current research.

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

,

I posted several months ago information on the Catholic church and

exemptions for Catholics. If you would like it let me know...I can

resend it directly to you.

There are a couple people who I know, including myself, who went and

talked with the priest regarding vaccines and our beliefs. In each case

the priest supported the decision.

in Ct

LiteMarek@... wrote:

>

> From: LiteMarek@...

>

> Hello-this is my intro. note,

> My name is and my husband Joe and I have 2 children, Jake who is 4

> and Molly 5months. jake had a reaction to his first DPT-high pitched

> screaming that stopped and started for hrs. and his leg was all swollen and

> red for days. His Dr. at that time talked us into the acellular DPT for the

> second dose which I found out soon after that that it was not approved for

> children under 18 months at that time. After I did some research and talked

> to a neighbor whose daughter ended up in awalker and now is in a wheel chair

> with a feeding tube and can't speak, we decided to hold off on any further

> vaccinations. Molly was born at home and our family doctor is very

> supportive of our decision. We also have a homeopathic Dr and she has

> written us medical exemptions for Jakes pre-school. Our next hurdle will be

> Kindergarden and our school choice-we may possiblly send Jake to a catholic

> school. I know a med. exemption for public school probobly would not be an

> issue but private schools don't have to take you. I look forward to learning

> more about immunizations and the most current research.

>

> ---------------------------

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/24/99 6:50:03 PM CST, Vaccinations-owneronelist

writes:

<< Once you have received this note please take the time and post an

introduction

to the group. We would be happy to hear about your vaccination experiences.

Also why you have

chosen not to vaccinate. Please ask any questions too, we are all here to

learn

about

vaccinations and vaccine-related issues. >>

Hi, I am le mommy to 4 yo Marisa , 17 mo Jordan and 10

week old Christian . My 4 yo and 17 mo are fully vaccinated to their

age levels. With Christian I have been a bit weary of vaccinating. I have

pretty much taken the natural approach with him since the beginning. I

believe that being a mommy for these past 4 years has taught me things that I

wish I had know from the beginning. Christian was born at home on his due

date June 15th at 3:13 am. He was born quietly and gently into a room light

with candles and one low light for the camcorder. I have chosen not to

circumcise, a decision I went rounds over with dh. Our first son is

circumcised, but like I said I have learned so much from being a mommy. (My

dd has taught me how to be the mommy I want to be to a daughter and ds has

taught me how to mother a son. I am now putting to use what I have learned

about mothering a son.) I have taken Christian to get 2 shots, the hep b and

the dtap. I was considering having him vaccinated slowly with no more than 2

shots at a time. I took him to the department of health and the nurses there

were rude!! They told me I would have to make more trips if I didn't let

them give him 4 shots that day. I didn't mind, after all I won't vaccinate

my son(if I decide to) according to my convenience. Anyway, I read somewhere

today that if you do decide to vaccinate then atleast wait until 6 months of

age. So, for the time being all I have decided is to investigate further.

Well, that along with waiting atleast to 6 months. So I have some time to

make my decision and read up. I would love links anyone has on vaccinations.

Please keep in mind I have already had my first 2 kids vaccinated, I don't

want to feel terribly guilty about having done that since I cannot change

that. I would love links on side effects and that kinda thing, not stories

on what the shots did to kids. TIA and I look forward to getting to know

everyone.

Dani

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/24/99 10:15:22 PM Central Daylight Time,

DaniMart@... writes:

<< I would love links anyone has on vaccinations.

Please keep in mind I have already had my first 2 kids vaccinated, I don't

want to feel terribly guilty about having done that since I cannot change

that. I would love links on side effects and that kinda thing, not stories

on what the shots did to kids. TIA and I look forward to getting to know

everyone.

Dani >>

Hi Dani,

Nice to meet you:)

This is a very informative web site: http://www.thinktwice.com

Very good place to start:)

Alison

[Guest guest]

Hi Dani!

My homepage has lots of links to websites. It's at

http://pages.ivillage.com/ps/carrielea

I also have info on alternative health options, which can help to

reverse any ill effects your children might develop from their shots.

It's a must if you really want to try to detox their bodies as much as

you can from the possible effects of the chemicals.

I hope it will not make you feel guilty. What's the saying Oprah always

says " we did then what we knew how to do, and now that we know better,

we DO better " . You have to admit that you only did what you knew best at

the time.

Although I knew about vaccinating, I didn't know everything about

circumcision. This is my " guilt " - but if I have another son, I will not

do it again now that I " know better " - just like you. That's the

important thing - that we learn from our knowledge and not repeat the

same mistakes.

[Guest guest]

I had a baby girl last month and we are leary of vaccinations, and therefore

trying to educate ourselves about them before making any decisions which is

what brings me to this list. In the meantime, we will not be doing any.

And if we do decide to selectively vaccinate, it won't be until she is much

older, such as age 2.

A little about us: I'm 30, married to Tom age 36, we live near Boulder CO

and I'm a stay-home mom that is doing Attachment Parenting. My baby girl's

name is Brenna Caroline, she is almost 5 weeks old. She has her own website

at http://www.melyssa.com/brenna

Mel

>

>Once you have received this note please take the time and post an

introduction

>to the group. We would be happy to hear about your vaccination

experiences.

>Also why you have

>chosen not to vaccinate. Please ask any questions too, we are all here to

learn

>about

>vaccinations and vaccine-related issues.

>

>I as the list owner have made a very educated decision not to vaccinate and

my

>daughter and all future children. I hope you enjoy this list and learn

lots

>about vaccinations.

>

>Please also take the time and view the archived posts from this list.

There is

>lots of information in our previous posts.

>You can view these messages at:

>/archives.cgi/Vaccinations

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Welcome! You've got a beautiful baby. I congratulate you on having an

open mind and being willing to do the research. This list is a huge

resource and very supportive.

in CT

" Melyssa R. " wrote:

>

> From: " Melyssa R. " <mel@...>

>

> I had a baby girl last month and we are leary of vaccinations, and therefore

> trying to educate ourselves about them before making any decisions which is

> what brings me to this list. In the meantime, we will not be doing any.

> And if we do decide to selectively vaccinate, it won't be until she is much

> older, such as age 2.

> A little about us: I'm 30, married to Tom age 36, we live near Boulder CO

> and I'm a stay-home mom that is doing Attachment Parenting. My baby girl's

> name is Brenna Caroline, she is almost 5 weeks old. She has her own website

> at http://www.melyssa.com/brenna

>

> Mel

>

> >

> >Once you have received this note please take the time and post an

> introduction

> >to the group. We would be happy to hear about your vaccination

> experiences.

> >Also why you have

> >chosen not to vaccinate. Please ask any questions too, we are all here to

> learn

> >about

> >vaccinations and vaccine-related issues.

> >

> >I as the list owner have made a very educated decision not to vaccinate and

> my

> >daughter and all future children. I hope you enjoy this list and learn

> lots

> >about vaccinations.

> >

> >Please also take the time and view the archived posts from this list.

> There is

> >lots of information in our previous posts.

> >You can view these messages at:

> >/archives.cgi/Vaccinations

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello,

My name is Barbara. I am a stay at home,

homeschooling mother of 3 wonderful kids.

almost 7, Myles almost 4, and our newest treasure,

almost 7 months.

My first birth was in a hospital and was

immunized until she was 4. She got most of the major

ones, but they didn't do Hep B (I think), Varicella or

Rotavirus back then. She didn't seem to have any

reactions, but is VERY active and has almost constant

sinus/allergy problems.

I know this will sound strange and I'm not even sure I

can fully explain it, but breastfeeding her changed me

in very profound ways. It was probably a combination

of actually having a baby and the experience of

breastfeeding combined, but I am a shadow of my former

self (and I don't mean skinny) and have never looked

back!! Well, almost never.

Myles was born at home with a CNM. Even before his

birth, I started having questions about vaccines and

vaccine policy. Our midwife is anti-vac. After his

wonderful birth I started reading about immunizations.

After much discussion and debate, my husband and I

decided not to continue immunizing our children.

Page after page of vaccine reaction horror stories was

too much for me. What I really wanted to know (and

what no one seemed able to answer) was what is the

actual risk to my child of contracting one of these

diseases and then dying from it. When I found the

fatalities from many of these diseases is actually

quite small it got me thinking. My children are

breastfed (for a long time), don't go to day care, and

are being raised in an era with much better standards

of cleanliness and advances in medical technology. If

there were only 4 cases of diptheria, what is the

chance that my child will get it--almost NIL.

Well, one thing led to another and I started reading

more and more. I'm not even sure I even believe in

the vaccine theory anymore. I certainly don't believe

that you can inject that much poison into an infant's

body without some type of consequence.

I still have questions and concerns and am hoping to

learn more from the members on this list.

Hope this hasn't been too long and boring. It is hard

to know where to start (and when to stop) with such a

complex and volitile issue.

=====

[Guest guest]

Hello everyone,I am new to the list. I have chosen not to vaccinate my

children any further, especially after I know whats in them,and the

damage they can cause. My son started having febrile seizures after his

second DPT shot,and that was when he was a baby. Now he just has

seizures about once a month . He is not on medications. My son is a very

healthy active kid,and I attribute that to nursing him for 2 and a half

years. He is having problems in school with reading and with his

bahavior.

I am very interested in homeopathy and natural remedys.

[Guest guest]

I just wanted to take a minute and say hello to this group. My name is Dawnn

and my daughter Mikayla is 10mo old. Up untill now I choose to vaccinate

because I really didn't know any better. Upon meeting some new people I have

been considering not doing anymore and not vaccinating any future children.

I'm looking forward to reading all the information you all have and your help

in finding the answers were looking for. I will be looking into past posts

for more info as soon as I get a chance.

I also was wondering if anyone on this list knows of a good ped in the

Vacnouver or Longview area of Washington. I know that the ped clinic i'm at

now will not be very helpful in my search for answers. Especially after my

last visit when the ped told me I needed to start discipling my 9mo old by

teaching her the word NO. That's a whole other story. Any referrals would be

great.

Dawnn

[Guest guest]

Hi, Dawn -

My name is Teri, and my son is 6 months old. He received 2 shots, but

then we also stopped his vaccinations. I just joined this list about a month

ago. There is a lot of helpful information here!

We currently live in San Diego, but will probably be moving to Tacoma area in

March, so I was excited to see that you were up in that area too! Welcome!

Teri