Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 yes of course, however peanuts were mentioned and are the highest in that mold. Re: Absolute must read about iodine dosing & thyroid Lots of foods have aflatoxin, not just peanuts.>> yes peanuts are full of aflatoxin, the carcinogenic mold, DON't eat them! ( or yeasts or corn or wheat or mushrooms for that matter!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Don't they test for aflatoxin and not allow the peanuts to be used if they contain high levels of it? So the main things to avoid are peanuts, grains and corn? > > yes of course, however peanuts were mentioned and are the highest in that mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 The best site for information on this is www.knowthecause.com yes they check for aflatoxin, but as with most testing procedures the just take a small sample as its impossible to check every peanut. Yes, mold grows rampant in corn, wheat and peanuts. Check out that site, I have learned so much from Doug Kaufmann. Re: Absolute must read about iodine dosing & thyroid Don't they test for aflatoxin and not allow the peanuts to be used if they contain high levels of it? So the main things to avoid are peanuts, grains and corn?>> yes of course, however peanuts were mentioned and are the highest in that mold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 can you post the link to his site again? I opened the 3 chapters of his book but don't have the original link. THX > > Yeaho, but all that is not the official Iodine > Protocol, that's all stuff we've researched, or > Steph has researched and we share. The Iodine > Protocol and companion nutrients are the main > thing. And yeah the salt supports the adrenals and > the vit c and the nutrients, but the official > Iodine Protocol doesn't call for progesterone, or > cortisol, from what I've read. The main thing IS > the Iodine and the companion nutrients, that IS > the Iodine Protocol, even though we individually > discuss other things. I'm not saying that's bad, > mind you, I'm just saying the Iodine Protocol > emphasizes the Iodine and companion nutrients, > rather than adding progesterone and cortisone, and > that they must all be balanced. If I hadn't done > my own research I wouldn't know about estrogen > overload, or adrenal fatigue. And for some people > the salt and companion nutrients are not enough to > get everything balanced. I've been taking Iodine > for months and doing the salt and all the > nutrients, and I still had to go hunting for > answers for hormone imbalance. And it's been a > long bunch of trial and error as far as the > hormones go. And I didn't read about that in the > Iodine Protocol. > > This guy just makes it easier by talking about > everything at once. He's got just about everything > covered, he just doesn't publicly push as large a > dose of Iodine as we do. > > I'm not telling people to abandon the IP. I follow > the IP myself. But it sure would have saved me > months of digging and pulling my hair out over a > bad case of estrogen overload, and wayyy low > progesterone, and very weak adrenals if I had > stumbled across that website first. I had to find > out myself that low progesterone effects the way > the thyroid hormones work, and that it, and not > just hypoT, could wreck the adrenals. Yeah the IP > will probably correct all that eventually, and > It's knocking a lot of bad stuff out of the bod, > but why should I have to suffer in the meantime? > > So I say take the information that is provided and > make use of it. And if his take on Iodine is > different than mine, I can ignore it. > > I know about the different hormones because I did > the digging BEFORE I saw the videos, but there may > be people out there that DON'T know and it is > invaluable info. It might save some people some > difficulties. The info about how the thyroid > works, and how the hormones effect the thyroid > and how the body uses the thyroid hormones is > invaluable. He's not just pushing thyroid hormones > and adrenals without Iodine, or just Iodine and > nutrients without the other added hormones, he's > put all the pieces together and explained how it > all works together. The only thing he doesn't > cover is Leptin, and the insulin/leptin/cortisol > receptors. I didn't hear any mention of that. > > The information he gives is no different than any > other information that anyone else presents. Take > what can be used and leave the rest. > > Bethann > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 http://www.advancingthyroidcare.com/ Bethann " The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance...it is the illusion of knowledge " ~ Hawking spacejunkie2001us wrote: > > > can you post the link to his site again? I opened the 3 chapters of his > book but don't have the original link. THX > > > > > > Yeaho, but all that is not the official Iodine > > Protocol, that's all stuff we've researched, or > > Steph has researched and we share. The Iodine > > Protocol and companion nutrients are the main > > thing. And yeah the salt supports the adrenals and > > the vit c and the nutrients, but the official > > Iodine Protocol doesn't call for progesterone, or > > cortisol, from what I've read. The main thing IS > > the Iodine and the companion nutrients, that IS > > the Iodine Protocol, even though we individually > > discuss other things. I'm not saying that's bad, > > mind you, I'm just saying the Iodine Protocol > > emphasizes the Iodine and companion nutrients, > > rather than adding progesterone and cortisone, and > > that they must all be balanced. If I hadn't done > > my own research I wouldn't know about estrogen > > overload, or adrenal fatigue. And for some people > > the salt and companion nutrients are not enough to > > get everything balanced. I've been taking Iodine > > for months and doing the salt and all the > > nutrients, and I still had to go hunting for > > answers for hormone imbalance. And it's been a > > long bunch of trial and error as far as the > > hormones go. And I didn't read about that in the > > Iodine Protocol. > > > > This guy just makes it easier by talking about > > everything at once. He's got just about everything > > covered, he just doesn't publicly push as large a > > dose of Iodine as we do. > > > > I'm not telling people to abandon the IP. I follow > > the IP myself. But it sure would have saved me > > months of digging and pulling my hair out over a > > bad case of estrogen overload, and wayyy low > > progesterone, and very weak adrenals if I had > > stumbled across that website first. I had to find > > out myself that low progesterone effects the way > > the thyroid hormones work, and that it, and not > > just hypoT, could wreck the adrenals. Yeah the IP > > will probably correct all that eventually, and > > It's knocking a lot of bad stuff out of the bod, > > but why should I have to suffer in the meantime? > > > > So I say take the information that is provided and > > make use of it. And if his take on Iodine is > > different than mine, I can ignore it. > > > > I know about the different hormones because I did > > the digging BEFORE I saw the videos, but there may > > be people out there that DON'T know and it is > > invaluable info. It might save some people some > > difficulties. The info about how the thyroid > > works, and how the hormones effect the thyroid > > and how the body uses the thyroid hormones is > > invaluable. He's not just pushing thyroid hormones > > and adrenals without Iodine, or just Iodine and > > nutrients without the other added hormones, he's > > put all the pieces together and explained how it > > all works together. The only thing he doesn't > > cover is Leptin, and the insulin/leptin/ cortisol > > receptors. I didn't hear any mention of that. > > > > The information he gives is no different than any > > other information that anyone else presents. Take > > what can be used and leave the rest. > > > > Bethann > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 hey space, here it is hope it connects more of the system for you ,,,,,art advancingthyroidcare.com dr alexander haskell also has videos on youtube................later From: spacejunkie2001us <scastor@...>iodine Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 3:26:28 PMSubject: Re: Absolute must read about iodine dosing & thyroid can you post the link to his site again? I opened the 3 chapters of his book but don't have the original link. THX>> Yeaho, but all that is not the official Iodine > Protocol, that's all stuff we've researched, or > Steph has researched and we share. The Iodine > Protocol and companion nutrients are the main > thing. And yeah the salt supports the adrenals and > the vit c and the nutrients, but the official > Iodine Protocol doesn't call for progesterone, or > cortisol, from what I've read. The main thing IS > the Iodine and the companion nutrients, that IS > the Iodine Protocol, even though we individually > discuss other things. I'm not saying that's bad, > mind you, I'm just saying the Iodine Protocol > emphasizes the Iodine and companion nutrients, > rather than adding progesterone and cortisone, and > that they must all be balanced. If I hadn't done > my own research I wouldn't know about estrogen > overload, or adrenal fatigue. And for some people > the salt and companion nutrients are not enough to > get everything balanced. I've been taking Iodine > for months and doing the salt and all the > nutrients, and I still had to go hunting for > answers for hormone imbalance. And it's been a > long bunch of trial and error as far as the > hormones go. And I didn't read about that in the > Iodine Protocol.> > This guy just makes it easier by talking about > everything at once. He's got just about everything > covered, he just doesn't publicly push as large a > dose of Iodine as we do.> > I'm not telling people to abandon the IP. I follow > the IP myself. But it sure would have saved me > months of digging and pulling my hair out over a > bad case of estrogen overload, and wayyy low > progesterone, and very weak adrenals if I had > stumbled across that website first. I had to find > out myself that low progesterone effects the way > the thyroid hormones work, and that it, and not > just hypoT, could wreck the adrenals. Yeah the IP > will probably correct all that eventually, and > It's knocking a lot of bad stuff out of the bod, > but why should I have to suffer in the meantime?> > So I say take the information that is provided and > make use of it. And if his take on Iodine is > different than mine, I can ignore it.> > I know about the different hormones because I did > the digging BEFORE I saw the videos, but there may > be people out there that DON'T know and it is > invaluable info. It might save some people some > difficulties. The info about how the thyroid > works, and how the hormones effect the thyroid > and how the body uses the thyroid hormones is > invaluable. He's not just pushing thyroid hormones > and adrenals without Iodine, or just Iodine and > nutrients without the other added hormones, he's > put all the pieces together and explained how it > all works together. The only thing he doesn't > cover is Leptin, and the insulin/leptin/ cortisol > receptors. I didn't hear any mention of that.> > The information he gives is no different than any > other information that anyone else presents. Take > what can be used and leave the rest.> > Bethann> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 shallow as a kiddies wading pool From: YardBirdMail <yardbirdmail@...>iodine Sent: Sun, April 11, 2010 4:18:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: Absolute must read about iodine dosing & thyroidhttp://www.advancingthyroidcare.com/Bethann"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance...it is the illusion of knowledge" ~ Hawkingspacejunkie2001us wrote:> > > can you post the link to his site again? I opened the 3 chapters of his > book but don't have the original link. THX> > > >> > Yeaho, but all that is not the official Iodine> > Protocol, that's all stuff we've researched, or> > Steph has researched and we share. The Iodine> > Protocol and companion nutrients are the main> > thing. And yeah the salt supports the adrenals and> > the vit c and the nutrients, but the official> > Iodine Protocol doesn't call for progesterone, or> > cortisol, from what I've read. The main thing IS> > the Iodine and the companion nutrients, that IS> > the Iodine Protocol, even though we individually> > discuss other things. I'm not saying that's bad,> > mind you, I'm just saying the Iodine Protocol> > emphasizes the Iodine and companion nutrients,> > rather than adding progesterone and cortisone, and> > that they must all be balanced. If I hadn't done> > my own research I wouldn't know about estrogen> > overload, or adrenal fatigue. And for some people> > the salt and companion nutrients are not enough to> > get everything balanced. I've been taking Iodine> > for months and doing the salt and all the> > nutrients, and I still had to go hunting for> > answers for hormone imbalance. And it's been a> > long bunch of trial and error as far as the> > hormones go. And I didn't read about that in the> > Iodine Protocol.> >> > This guy just makes it easier by talking about> > everything at once. He's got just about everything> > covered, he just doesn't publicly push as large a> > dose of Iodine as we do.> >> > I'm not telling people to abandon the IP. I follow> > the IP myself. But it sure would have saved me> > months of digging and pulling my hair out over a> > bad case of estrogen overload, and wayyy low> > progesterone, and very weak adrenals if I had> > stumbled across that website first. I had to find> > out myself that low progesterone effects the way> > the thyroid hormones work, and that it, and not> > just hypoT, could wreck the adrenals. Yeah the IP> > will probably correct all that eventually, and> > It's knocking a lot of bad stuff out of the bod,> > but why should I have to suffer in the meantime?> >> > So I say take the information that is provided and> > make use of it. And if his take on Iodine is> > different than mine, I can ignore it.> >> > I know about the different hormones because I did> > the digging BEFORE I saw the videos, but there may> > be people out there that DON'T know and it is> > invaluable info. It might save some people some> > difficulties. The info about how the thyroid> > works, and how the hormones effect the thyroid> > and how the body uses the thyroid hormones is> > invaluable. He's not just pushing thyroid hormones> > and adrenals without Iodine, or just Iodine and> > nutrients without the other added hormones, he's> > put all the pieces together and explained how it> > all works together. The only thing he doesn't> > cover is Leptin, and the insulin/leptin/ cortisol> > receptors. I didn't hear any mention of that.> >> > The information he gives is no different than any> > other information that anyone else presents. Take> > what can be used and leave the rest.> >> > Bethann> >> > ------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 colonoscopies and endoscopes procedures work for those who have it to that large of a degree. A lot more have 'low level' that won't show that much damage yet but causing all kinds of problems including autoimmunities of various types.. There is also a stool antibody test that picks it up in those cases by enterolab.com. Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: DeNormandie I have celiac's disease, gluten, wheat and barley and maybe even if you feel fine it damages the villi that lines the intestines and then your body can't absorb the nutrients from food and supplements. You can actually can get cancer from this. They say that 80% of the people that do have this auto immune disease doesn't know it. That is why colonoscopies and endoscopes procedures are very important. I also have crohn's and ischemic colitis. SO what we put in our bodies through the years does have a big affect on our insides and Iodoral has helped me a lot. from Illinois Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Could be lots of things in the environment or food/water supply. How about wheat for one? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19352315 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11407647 > why do autoimmunities occur?? > > Steph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 thank you and Bethann! > > > > Yeaho, but all that is not the official Iodine > > Protocol, that's all stuff we've researched, or > > Steph has researched and we share. The Iodine > > Protocol and companion nutrients are the main > > thing. And yeah the salt supports the adrenals and > > the vit c and the nutrients, but the official > > Iodine Protocol doesn't call for progesterone, or > > cortisol, from what I've read. The main thing IS > > the Iodine and the companion nutrients, that IS > > the Iodine Protocol, even though we individually > > discuss other things. I'm not saying that's bad, > > mind you, I'm just saying the Iodine Protocol > > emphasizes the Iodine and companion nutrients, > > rather than adding progesterone and cortisone, and > > that they must all be balanced. If I hadn't done > > my own research I wouldn't know about estrogen > > overload, or adrenal fatigue. And for some people > > the salt and companion nutrients are not enough to > > get everything balanced. I've been taking Iodine > > for months and doing the salt and all the > > nutrients, and I still had to go hunting for > > answers for hormone imbalance. And it's been a > > long bunch of trial and error as far as the > > hormones go. And I didn't read about that in the > > Iodine Protocol. > > > > This guy just makes it easier by talking about > > everything at once. He's got just about everything > > covered, he just doesn't publicly push as large a > > dose of Iodine as we do. > > > > I'm not telling people to abandon the IP. I follow > > the IP myself. But it sure would have saved me > > months of digging and pulling my hair out over a > > bad case of estrogen overload, and wayyy low > > progesterone, and very weak adrenals if I had > > stumbled across that website first. I had to find > > out myself that low progesterone effects the way > > the thyroid hormones work, and that it, and not > > just hypoT, could wreck the adrenals. Yeah the IP > > will probably correct all that eventually, and > > It's knocking a lot of bad stuff out of the bod, > > but why should I have to suffer in the meantime? > > > > So I say take the information that is provided and > > make use of it. And if his take on Iodine is > > different than mine, I can ignore it. > > > > I know about the different hormones because I did > > the digging BEFORE I saw the videos, but there may > > be people out there that DON'T know and it is > > invaluable info. It might save some people some > > difficulties. The info about how the thyroid > > works, and how the hormones effect the thyroid > > and how the body uses the thyroid hormones is > > invaluable. He's not just pushing thyroid hormones > > and adrenals without Iodine, or just Iodine and > > nutrients without the other added hormones, he's > > put all the pieces together and explained how it > > all works together. The only thing he doesn't > > cover is Leptin, and the insulin/leptin/ cortisol > > receptors. I didn't hear any mention of that. > > > > The information he gives is no different than any > > other information that anyone else presents. Take > > what can be used and leave the rest. > > > > Bethann > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 There is a theory that autoimmunities of every type are the result of too low immune function not too high. That the immune system when it becomes weak confuses body tissue with invaders. And is responding to any inflammatory state like the body is being invaded. I can't remember where I read about resetting the immune system and what was done to achieve that. It's been a great while ago that I read it and all my saved stuff went when my HD crashed. And if you take into consideration that the thyroid and hormones have an effect on immune response it kinda makes sense. Why would the immune system be stronger if everything else is weakened? I'm wondering how Iodine effects the thymus now, that's where all the killer T cells are made. Bethann " The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance...it is the illusion of knowledge " ~ Hawking porkerpie wrote: > > > Could be lots of things in the environment or food/water supply. How > about wheat for one? > http://www.ncbi. nlm.nih.gov/ pubmed/19352315 > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19352315> > http://www.ncbi. nlm.nih.gov/ pubmed/11407647 > <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11407647> > > > > why do autoimmunities occur?? > > > > Steph > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 Openness and flexibility are a must. Wish more people had that view. I get very tired of trying to persuade people of stuff that I know is right, but they are holding on to their previous beliefs. It's exhausting. My Dad takes Crestor. He's had heart surgery in the past. He's 82 now. I copied and printed that WHOLE article from W.P. on the statins being so dangerous? Mailed it to him. He emails me that " well, the damage is already done, so why bother going off it now. " How does one cope with that kind of attitude? He's a very intelligent man; actually a chemist. You'd think he'd be able to read the article knowledgeably and come to some sort of reasonable conclusion. But no. Sigh. Beverly > > > I've seen people ignore and berate an article that was incredible and could save lives over a word they didn't agree with. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 I believe that most metabolic disorders and autoimmune diseases are a result of nutritional deficiencies, and that environmental sensitivities and opportunistic infections (viral, bacterial, parasitic) only arise after the illness. For all that infectious organisms are blamed for various illnesses, there is always a percentage of the people with the disease who don't actually have the pathogen proposed as the cause. And I think that's because the co-occurring infections are simply opportunistic, taking hold when the body is weakened by key nutritional deficits. For anyone who isn't already aware, iodine kills candida, parasites, viruses, bacteria, and whatever other pathogens there are in the body, while totally sparing the friendly bacteria that we need for proper health. It prevents and treats many cancers. It heals thyroid malfunctions and fires up the metabolism. It is absolutely essential to good health. I recommend people do the iodine protocol and then see what else you need. Because without iodine, the body's metabolism cannot function correctly, and it won't be able to use the rest of the nutritional therapies you are doing. -- At 07:57 PM 4/11/2010, you wrote: >Could be lots of things in the environment or food/water supply. How about >wheat for one? >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19352315 >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11407647 > > > > why do autoimmunities occur?? > > > > Steph > > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2010 Report Share Posted April 11, 2010 > >The information he gives is no different than any >other information that anyone else presents. Take >what can be used and leave the rest. And what didn't work was that exposure to his message, or part of his message, was making Hashi's people feel they should not do iodine. Which is wrong. And which I was calling attention to the wrongness of it, because I really feel for anyone with Hashi's who has actually been made to be afraid of iodine. It's the only hope, yet it's being withheld or given in tiny doses. I was given tiny doses for a couple of years, and took small doses myself for several years before that. It was only until I got onto the full on IP that my body kicked into gear behind it. So I will amend my initial response to read: This doctor's message can be misinterpreted to be iodine-phobic, and therefore it could use some work. And I will reiterate that the cutting-edge evidence is that large doses of iodine can cure people of deep-seated metabolic disorders, including those of us with Hashi's. So please don't allow yourselves to be confused by other information, it is needless confusion that will only hold you back. It's actually very simple. -- ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Thank you for posting your experience with your nodules. That's encouraging for me with my goiter that's choking me! Is there a reason why you didn't go up to the 50mg Iodine dose I've read about? Also, is Iodine therapy a " for life " thing, or can we restore our Iodine levels and then back off the Iodoral? Thanks much, > > Here is what I took out of the videos: It is a lack of iodine that causes damage to the thyroid because the hydrogen peroxyde has nothing to work with and so destroys the thyroid tissue. > > I have nodules and a low level of antibodies. Since starting iodine two years ago (25mg per day), my nodules have shrunk. I don't know what my antibodies were before starting iodine, but suspect they were higher than they are now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 I understand the necessity for iodine in a healthy body, and all of the good things it can do. But it doesn't heal the gut, right? If you have leaky gut syndrome, undigested food, bacteria, etc. get into the bloodstream, and this would contribute to auto-immune issues - the immune system attacking proteins. Is that basically the idea? In fact Lugols could be quite irritating to the gut lining from what I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 That's why Iodoral works better. The silica in the pill helps get it lower in the gut to avoid irritation. Steph Re: Absolute must read about iodine dosing & thyroid I understand the necessity for iodine in a healthy body, and all of the good things it can do. But it doesn't heal the gut, right? If you have leaky gut syndrome, undigested food, bacteria, etc. get into the bloodstream, and this would contribute to auto-immune issues - the immune system attacking proteins. Is that basically the idea? In fact Lugols could be quite irritating to the gut lining from what I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 lugol treatment can kill candida which has a role to play in the leaky gut. On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:22 PM, porkerpie <joanhulvey@...> wrote: Â I understand the necessity for iodine in a healthy body, and all of the good things it can do. But it doesn't heal the gut, right? If you have leaky gut syndrome, undigested food, bacteria, etc. get into the bloodstream, and this would contribute to auto-immune issues - the immune system attacking proteins. Is that basically the idea? In fact Lugols could be quite irritating to the gut lining from what I understand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 The doctor that runs the Hormone and Health...Naturally group routinely tests and retests patients that are on iodoral and her testing results show that iodine has no effect on candida at all. Dianne > > lugol treatment can kill candida which has a role to play in the leaky gut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 COMMENT by WALTER LAST According to my experience and understanding the greatest benefit of high iodine intake is its effectiveness in killing Candida and other fungi and microbes. This may also be a reason for its effectiveness with breast cancer and ovarian cysts. The secret of this success may be the fact that both iodine and fungi have an affinity for the mucous membranes. By keeping the mucous membranes healthy iodine greatly helps to overcome autoimmune diseases, sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer, and other lung problems, and also intestinal diseases, including inflammatory conditions and cancers. The common use of iodine as an antimicrobial agent is 4 x 6 to 8 drops of Lugol’s solution for 3 weeks, see the Ultimate Cleanse (www.health-science-spirit.com/ultimatecleanse.html). However, the FDA recently banned Lugol’s solution, but in the US you can still obtain Iodoral (iodine tablets) and a 2% iodine solution and take five times as many drops as stated for Lugol’s solution, but make sure you use a water-based solution, not iodine in alcohol. In Australia you can obtain Lugol’s solution from www.strideintohealth.com.  from this site and i know a person who did it and it worked very good On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Dianne <dwarrickh@...> wrote:  The doctor that runs the Hormone and Health...Naturally group routinely tests and retests patients that are on iodoral and her testing results show that iodine has no effect on candida at all. Dianne >> lugol treatment can kill candida which has a role to play in the leaky gut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 I agree with this. Bacteria, viruses and parasites are everywhere, and it's only when the immune system is compromised that we cannot deal with these opportunistic creatures. The role of bacteria is, after all, to break down decaying matter. They live off it. If our cells are healthy and intact, then we should be able to withstand their onslaught.But I also believe that some foods that humans currently eat were never designed for us. Some of us may get away with eating them, and over time we may evolve (and some have evolved) to efficiently process them, but for many of us we're just not there yet. Our genes still view such foods as foreign and will mount an immune response to their ingestion.Joannewww.joanneunleashed.comOn Apr 12, 2010, at 3:42 AM, iodine wrote:I believe that most metabolic disorders and autoimmune diseases are a result of nutritional deficiencies, and that environmental sensitivities and opportunistic infections (viral, bacterial, parasitic) only arise after the illness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 Well that treatment dosage is 200 mg of Lugol's and I know that the doctor I referred to does not dose Iodoral that high. Especially without keeping an eye on thyroid by testing. That amount of iodine every day affects other hormonal systems in the body as well and I know I would never blindly dose myself with that much for whatever reason without being under a doctor's care. Her testing pre/post iodine using stool tests showed no effect on Candida. Tests did show results using a 6 week treatment of ProEnt2 Plus at 4 a day as previously mentioned. People have detox symptoms with 12.5 mg so I can just imagine what would happen to someone that decided to jump right into that 200 mg protocol. I read posts all the time about people saying iodine eliminates candida but tests prove that " blanket " statement is not true. And you didn't specify an amount in your simple statement either: " lugol treatment can kill candida which has a role to play in the leaky gut. " Maybe you should have actually said, " 200 mg a day of Lugol's for 3 weeks kills candida. " Dianne > > *COMMENT by WALTER LAST* > According to my experience and understanding the greatest benefit of high > iodine intake is its effectiveness in killing Candida and other fungi and > microbes. This may also be a reason for its effectiveness with breast cancer > and ovarian cysts. The secret of this success may be the fact that both > iodine and fungi have an affinity for the mucous membranes. By keeping the > mucous membranes healthy iodine greatly helps to overcome autoimmune > diseases, sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer, and other lung problems, and > also intestinal diseases, including inflammatory conditions and cancers. > > The common use of iodine as an antimicrobial agent is 4 x 6 to 8 drops of > Lugol's solution for 3 weeks, see the Ultimate > Cleanse<http://www.health-science-spirit.com/ultimatecleanse.html>( > www.health-science-spirit.com/ultimatecleanse.html). However, the FDA > recently banned Lugol's solution, but in the US you can still obtain Iodoral > (iodine tablets) and a 2% iodine solution and take five times as many drops > as stated for Lugol's solution, but make sure you use a water-based > solution, not iodine in alcohol. In Australia you can obtain > Lugol'ssolution from > www.strideintohealth.com. > > from this site > and i know a person who did it and it worked very good > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 you put it better,but you cannot always bring all the info. my wife with cancer used this treatment every 3 months as we assume there is conection candida cancer.see knowthecause and doctor simoncini.no problems with detox On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 3:28 PM, Dianne <dwarrickh@...> wrote: Â Well that treatment dosage is 200 mg of Lugol's and I know that the doctor I referred to does not dose Iodoral that high. Especially without keeping an eye on thyroid by testing. That amount of iodine every day affects other hormonal systems in the body as well and I know I would never blindly dose myself with that much for whatever reason without being under a doctor's care. Her testing pre/post iodine using stool tests showed no effect on Candida. Tests did show results using a 6 week treatment of ProEnt2 Plus at 4 a day as previously mentioned.People have detox symptoms with 12.5 mg so I can just imagine what would happen to someone that decided to jump right into that 200 mg protocol. I read posts all the time about people saying iodine eliminates candida but tests prove that " blanket " statement is not true. And you didn't specify an amount in your simple statement either: " lugol treatment can kill candida which has a role to play in the leaky gut. " Maybe you should have actually said, " 200 mg a day of Lugol's for 3 weeks kills candida. " Dianne>> *COMMENT by WALTER LAST* > According to my experience and understanding the greatest benefit of high> iodine intake is its effectiveness in killing Candida and other fungi and> microbes. This may also be a reason for its effectiveness with breast cancer > and ovarian cysts. The secret of this success may be the fact that both> iodine and fungi have an affinity for the mucous membranes. By keeping the> mucous membranes healthy iodine greatly helps to overcome autoimmune > diseases, sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer, and other lung problems, and> also intestinal diseases, including inflammatory conditions and cancers.> > The common use of iodine as an antimicrobial agent is 4 x 6 to 8 drops of > Lugol's solution for 3 weeks, see the Ultimate> Cleanse<http://www.health-science-spirit.com/ultimatecleanse.html>( > www.health-science-spirit.com/ultimatecleanse.html). However, the FDA> recently banned Lugol's solution, but in the US you can still obtain Iodoral > (iodine tablets) and a 2% iodine solution and take five times as many drops> as stated for Lugol's solution, but make sure you use a water-based> solution, not iodine in alcohol. In Australia you can obtain > Lugol'ssolution from > www.strideintohealth.com.> > from this site> and i know a person who did it and it worked very good> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 So, you are saying that the iodine at 200mg for a three week period DID/wil cure the candida? Is that correct? Pam Well that treatment dosage is 200 mg of Lugol's and I know that the doctor I referred to does not dose Iodoral that high. Especially without keeping an eye on thyroid by testing. That amount of iodine every day affects other hormonal systems in the body as well and I know I would never blindly dose myself with that much for whatever reason without being under a doctor's care. Her testing pre/post iodine using stool tests showed no effect on Candida. Tests did show results using a 6 week treatment of ProEnt2 Plus at 4 a day as previously mentioned.People have detox symptoms with 12.5 mg so I can just imagine what would happen to someone that decided to jump right into that 200 mg protocol. I read posts all the time about people saying iodine eliminates candida but tests prove that "blanket" statement is not true. And you didn't specify an amount in your simple statement either: "lugol treatment can kill candida which has a role to play in the leakygut." Maybe you should have actually said, "200 mg a day of Lugol's for 3 weeks kills candida." Dianne>> *COMMENT by WALTER LAST* > According to my experience and understanding the greatest benefit of high> iodine intake is its effectiveness in killing Candida and other fungi and> microbes. This may also be a reason for its effectiveness with breast cancer> and ovarian cysts. The secret of this success may be the fact that both> iodine and fungi have an affinity for the mucous membranes. By keeping the> mucous membranes healthy iodine greatly helps to overcome autoimmune> diseases, sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer, and other lung problems, and> also intestinal diseases, including inflammatory conditions and cancers.> > The common use of iodine as an antimicrobial agent is 4 x 6 to 8 drops of> Lugol's solution for 3 weeks, see the Ultimate> Cleanse<http://www.health- science-spirit. com/ultimateclea nse.html>( > www.health-science- spirit.com/ ultimatecleanse. html). However, the FDA> recently banned Lugol's solution, but in the US you can still obtain Iodoral> (iodine tablets) and a 2% iodine solution and take five times as many drops> as stated for Lugol's solution, but make sure you use a water-based> solution, not iodine in alcohol. In Australia you can obtain> Lugol'ssolution from > www.strideintohealt h.com.> > from this site> and i know a person who did it and it worked very good> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2010 Report Share Posted April 12, 2010 yes,that is my experience .a friend had terrible craving for sugars which i believe is a possible a sign of candida.she did the cure and the craving was over.she is doing at the same time low carb diet,but that was not enough.we live in the netherlands and we buy the lugol from the site of the article.if you read good the article,he is mentioning all that is mentioned in this group and from is experience it works best for candida.he recomends to repeat it every 3 months if you have systemic prolbem On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Pamela Olson <pamela.olson@...> wrote:  So, you are saying that the iodine at 200mg for a three week period DID/wil cure the candida? Is that correct? Pam  Well that treatment dosage is 200 mg of Lugol's and I know that the doctor I referred to does not dose Iodoral that high. Especially without keeping an eye on thyroid by testing. That amount of iodine every day affects other hormonal systems in the body as well and I know I would never blindly dose myself with that much for whatever reason without being under a doctor's care. Her testing pre/post iodine using stool tests showed no effect on Candida. Tests did show results using a 6 week treatment of ProEnt2 Plus at 4 a day as previously mentioned.People have detox symptoms with 12.5 mg so I can just imagine what would happen to someone that decided to jump right into that 200 mg protocol. I read posts all the time about people saying iodine eliminates candida but tests prove that " blanket " statement is not true. And you didn't specify an amount in your simple statement either: " lugol treatment can kill candida which has a role to play in the leaky gut. " Maybe you should have actually said, " 200 mg a day of Lugol's for 3 weeks kills candida. " Dianne> > *COMMENT by WALTER LAST* > According to my experience and understanding the greatest benefit of high> iodine intake is its effectiveness in killing Candida and other fungi and> microbes. This may also be a reason for its effectiveness with breast cancer > and ovarian cysts. The secret of this success may be the fact that both> iodine and fungi have an affinity for the mucous membranes. By keeping the> mucous membranes healthy iodine greatly helps to overcome autoimmune > diseases, sinus problems, asthma, lung cancer, and other lung problems, and> also intestinal diseases, including inflammatory conditions and cancers.> > The common use of iodine as an antimicrobial agent is 4 x 6 to 8 drops of > Lugol's solution for 3 weeks, see the Ultimate> Cleanse<http://www.health- science-spirit. com/ultimateclea nse.html>( > www.health-science- spirit.com/ ultimatecleanse. html). However, the FDA> recently banned Lugol's solution, but in the US you can still obtain Iodoral > (iodine tablets) and a 2% iodine solution and take five times as many drops> as stated for Lugol's solution, but make sure you use a water-based> solution, not iodine in alcohol. In Australia you can obtain > Lugol'ssolution from > www.strideintohealt h.com. > > from this site> and i know a person who did it and it worked very good> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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