Re: depressed and confused Veggie

January 12, 2005

Quinoa is a complete protein suitable for type 'O' veggies.

I was veggie but re-evaluated upon coming upon this diet and finding out about

it and decided my health has to come first so I do the best I can to use good

sources but do now have meat which I have actually had much less of a problem

changing to than I expected - surprising really as I was never one for even

liking meat.

hth

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January 12, 2005

I've worked with other vegetarian type o bloods who were successful in

their diet. But it is very difficult. If you don't get the proper

nutrients, you will feel ill and you will make yourself prone to

cancer and other serious health issues. And the fact is, there are a

few nutrients out there that can only be found outside of vegetarian

sources.

Please read " Diet For a New America " by Robbins. He is the son

of the ice-cream guru who invented Baskin Robbins. After learning

about the meat industry he gave away his father's business, which he

had inherited, and became a vegetarian. He has one of the best

referenced books I've ever read. It explains exactly how to be a

healthy vegetarian, where to get all your nutrients from, and - if you

ever did decide to eat meat - where to purchase organic meat.

And don't stress. I think you'll be fine. Just make sure to do your

research and know what you're doing.

Kathy R.

January 12, 2005

>>tell me what shall I do????isnt anyone willing to help me build a

vegetarian diet that will be healthy????

I hope my previous post didn't seem harsh - I've only just got your full

original post thru now!

It seems to me that you may just need to look at the lists of acceptable foods

for 'o's and just do your best. Maybe it is possible to ask Dr. D'adamo himself

for his view ?

There is plenty still which you can have, the problem seems to be the quality of

the protein to hand - as a veggie you will be a dab hand at ensuring you mix and

end up with complete protein over the course of the day.

It may be this will be a mental and physical change which will need to be a step

at a time for you and will just take as long as it takes; you've waxed strong in

specific beliefs and feelings and you can't go against them overnight.

Best of Luck

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January 12, 2005

Hello Tara,

I'm curious, what blood type is your husband? Is he healthy on his

lacto-vegetarian diet?

I'm sorry you are in so much pain. When I first read about the BTD, I

didn't know my blood type, so I (erroneously) assumed I was an A, as I

liked being a vegetarian. I had a long, gradual transistion to eating

red meat again; though I was never very strict as a vegetarian, eating

fish and poultry occassionaly.

Have you tried a meat, poultry or fish broth? I imagine that would be

easier than pieces of meat.

As others have said, there are some that eat a veggie O diet.... do

what feels best for you

Good luck, T

January 13, 2005

In a message dated 1/13/2005 3:25:21 PM Eastern Standard Time,

gbredbone@... writes:

The food list has eggs and chicken as an " avoid " for O types.

They're neutral for O. I don't know what list you're looking at.

January 13, 2005

Ginger Ballard wrote:

> The food list has eggs and chicken as an " avoid " for O types.

That can not be surely!!

It's allowed according to all the O books.

Has to be a mistake?

....Irene

--

Irene de Villiers, B.Sc; AASCA; MCSSA; D.I.Hom.

January 13, 2005

Check the updated food lists on the web - neither of them are avoids.

---- Original Message ----

From: gbredbone@...

>

>The food list has eggs and chicken as an " avoid " for O types.

>

January 13, 2005

I don't agree with the low protein discussion, but here is an

interpetation of the Type O diet for vegetarians from the web:

http://www.veg-soc.org/html/articles/blood-type-nutrition.html

by Manton

In his new book, The Eat Right Diet, Dr D'adamo introduces the

concept of dietary lectins - and their potential to influence the

capacity of all bodily organ systems to function effectively. I have

been using the principles espoused in his book in my practice since

late 1997 with great success and have reduced the need for food

sensitivity testing in people suffering from allergic complaints.

There have been some instances where I have seen health problems such

as arthritis, diabetes and skin disorders resolved by dietary therapy

alone using D'adamo's nutritional concepts.

However, one pressing concern for people on vegetarian diets is his

recommendation for those with `O' and `B' blood types to consume more

animal protein while reducing intake of unsuitable grains and plant

proteins. I would certainly agree that his nutritional programming

appears to be encouraging these blood types, the `O' blood type in

particular, to consume foods considered to be highly unethical by

serious vegetarians.

With this in mind, in July 1999 I ventured to the Gold Coast and the

International Congress on Natural Medicine where Dr D'adamo was

to speak. After much discussion with him, it emerged that he is a

true humanitarian, and while he indicated that `O' and `B' types do

benefit from animal proteins, he made it quite clear that vegetarians

from these blood groups can achieve good health without consuming

flesh and animal derived proteins.

I am convinced his program will gain wide acceptance in the

Australian naturopathic community. My charter is to see D'adamo's

work and theories interpreted correctly. In this article I would like

to illustrate how `O' and `B' blood type individuals can implement

the basic tenets of the blood type diet while maintaining their

vegetarian way of eating.

The Lectin-Blood Type Connection

D'adamo's theories are based on a chemical reaction taking place

between your blood and the foods you eat. Due to the so-named lectins

contained within foods, your immune and digestive systems still

maintain favouritism for foods that your blood-type ancestors ate.

Lectins are an abundant and diverse range of proteins found in foods -

predominantly seeds and particularly those of legumes - that seek

out and bind to carbohydrates in red blood cells.

Your blood-type antigen is one of 4 different carbohydrate structures

that stick out and label every one of your red cells as

either `O','A','B `or `AB' blood type. (An antigen is a foreign

substance which stimulates an immune response.) Certain lectins that

are incompatible with specific blood-type carbohydrate antigens will

attach themselves to that antigen, leading to blood cell clumping or

agglutination. Once cells are agglutinated, they become targeted for

destruction by the immune system as if they were some type of foreign

invader.

Your blood-type antigen is found not only on your red blood cells, it

is also extensively expressed in digestive mucus, gastric-acid

secretions, pancreatic juices and bile. So if you eat food lectins

that are offending for your blood type, in addition to agglutinating

your red cells, they also have the potential to cause bodily cells in

the digestive tract to clump together and lead to an immune system

response.

For example, when blood type `A' people drink cow's milk, the milk

lectin can interact directly with cells along the digestive tract

lining, resulting in localized inflammation with symptoms such as

bloating, flatulence, gut cramping and discomfort. For a person with

digestive system problems, looking at red blood cells via live blood

analysis is an excellent tool by which we can determine what is

happening to similar cells in the digestive system.

In the past, practitioners using live blood microscopy, like myself,

have related the picture in photo B to having excess protein in the

diet, or to the patient being incapable of effectively assimilating

protein. However, it seems that eating harmful lectins in foods is

also a major determinant of cellular agglutination which will occur

throughout the whole body. Because red blood cells bring oxygen to

every cell in the body, this is very undesirable and you will become

more fatigued. Agglutination is also reflective of an increase in

organic acid level within the body, which accelerates the rate at

which you age and increases the risk of developing infectious

illness, cancer and heart disease.

The Protein Equation

Your day-to-day energy levels and endurance are partly determined by

how well you assimilate protein. This assimilation can be impaired by

many factors such as the consumption of those dietary lectins that

cause localized inflammation in the villi of the digestive tract

lining. The inflammation prevents the uptake of amino acids and other

nutrients, often bringing on symptoms like bloating, fatigue and/or

sugar cravings after the meal.

So What's the Answer?

We don't want to make the mistake of over-eating protein in order to

compensate for any inadequacies in assimilating these amino acids.

The adult body needs about 40 grams of pure protein daily to maintain

metabolic equilibrium, which amounts to 0.5 - 0.7 grams protein for

every kilogram of ideal body weight. This amounts to approximately

30 - 50 grams of protein a day which should be delivered over a

minimum of 3 daily serves. The challenge is to optimize the

utilization of these dietary proteins.

Plant proteins are more likely to be digested into their constituent

amino acids and then absorbed into the bloodstream. These amino acids

are easier for bodily cells to utilize in cell construction.

Vegetarian proteins will also improve cellular respiration within

mitochondria.

In the context of blood typing, we need to eat beneficial or neutral

vegetarian proteins in combination with grains and vegetables that

don't contain lectins that impair digestive system function and amino-

acid uptake.

By consuming only beneficial lectins, we also encourage the growth of

friendly gut bacteria which further improves the uptake of amino

acids from the plant proteins. The lacto/ovo `O' and `B' blood-type

individuals can also add milk and egg proteins to the range from

which amino acids can be derived. D'adamo assured me that O- and B-

type vegetarians can have optimal health if they choose their plant

proteins and meal combinations wisely.

The `O' Blood-type Vegetarian Program

I have put many vegetarian menus together for this blood type.

Remember that the neutral proteins are well utilized as long as the

intestinal environment is healthy and the digestive organs, including

the stomach, liver, gall bladder and pancreas, are all working well

or being supported therapeutically.

`O'-type Program Overview

The main point to remember is to avoid combining your

beneficial/neutral vegetarian proteins with offending lectins in

grains, vegetables and fruits. Make up your daily protein allowance

from any of the neutral or beneficial vegetarian proteins listed in

the above table.

Cereal Grains - Wheat and corn (maize) contain lectins such as gluten

and others that react with the blood and digestive tract cells, and

interfere with proper assimilation of amino acids, minerals and other

nutrients - as explained earlier. While wheat is by far the worse

offender, by avoiding lectins from both grains you can maximize the

assimilation of the nutrients in your protein foods. `O' blood types

should focus on reducing the total intake of grains and selecting

more often from rice, oats, millet, rye and barley. `O' types are

better to get starch from vegetables such as parsnip, peas and sweet

potato and to increase the intake of other vegetables and fruits. It

is important to substitute fruit for that piece of bread between

meals.

Vegetables - The nightshade vegetables, in particular eggplant,

potatoes, capsicum and chilli, cause arthritic conditions in

type `O's, because their lectins deposit in the tissues surrounding

the joints. Sweet-corn lectins affect the production of insulin, and,

like the lectin in wheat, can lead to obesity and mature-onset

diabetes. The assimilation of proteins will be enhanced by avoiding

combinations with potato and corn in the same meal. Alfalfa sprouts

contain components that, by irritating the digestive tract, can

aggravate type `O' hypersensitivity problems. The moulds in

cultivated mushrooms and fermented olives also tend to trigger

allergic reactions.

Fruits - Rockmelons and honeydew melons contain very high mould

counts so should be avoided. Oranges, tangerines and strawberries

should be avoided due to the high acidic reaction they induce in the

digestive tract. The type `O' digestive tract already has high

acidity and needs the balance of the alkaline fruits to reduce the

possibility of ulceration and irritation to the stomach and duodenal

lining. Blackberries, contain a lectin that aggravates type `O'

digestion so is also better avoided.

End of info from the web.

Dr. D'Adamo recommends the supplements coleus forskoli and l-

carnitine for vegetarians. I would probably try conjugated lineolic

acid as well, since that's one of the main things provided by beef.

A vegetarian diet is possible, though probably never ideal. Many

vegetarians do ultimately find that to maintain health especially

with older age they must add some animal protein.

Good luck

>

> Hi Everyone,

>

> I am posting after a while.I wish everyone a very happy 2,005,now

> that we have moved into the new year,I hope you find success with

your

> health and fitness goals.

>

> I've been waivering back and forth in thought during this time,and I

> do agree with many of the blood type principles.

>

> However the issue of vegetarianism keeps me in inner turmoil.

> I just cant imagine going back to eating meat,it doesnt seem the

> pure,and spiritual thing for me.

>

> The site,and smell of meat and fish makes me very sick,I feel

> nausiated,sad,frusated and devestated.They look like cut up flesh

> parts of a dead carcuss.

>

> I agree veganism is way to lacking and extreme for blood type O,but

> if the diet includes some eggs?and blood type O legal

> legumes,nuts,seeds etc,couldn't we have a shot at designing a

> vegetarian version of the blood type O DIET???

>

> For me,it goes way beyond diet and choice of food,my digestion is

> almost totally shot,I hate the thought of chewing on an animal.Most

> of the meats,and poultry are injected with hormomes,antibiotics,and

> full of dead dying diseased animals.And organic free range meats are

> very expensive!and hard to come by in my area.

>

> I would rather try to design an adequete vegetarian diet,then drive

> myself crazy trying to do the meat thing....

>

> My husband is east asian,and his family are pure lacto

> vegetarians,based on religious beliefs,and the belief that all life

> is sacred and to be respected.His culture expects the wife to follow

> suit,and even though I am American,trying to start meat would put

yet

> another huge cultural wall up,that right now im not willing to do..

>

> I tried eating chicken/fish,but became sad frustrated and more and

> more distanced from my husband,and the cost of free range meat is

far

> beyond the ordinary budget...

>

> so all of this stress of wanting to be well,and confusion over diet

> is making me depressed and full of anxiety......

>

> No one health guru or expert agrees on the same kind of diet,and

the

> PCRMS,violently oppose eating meat, while the Price pottengers

> campaigners and d adadmo boards encourage it...each has scientific

> studies to back it up,whos right and who is wrong?????who is to

say???

>

> maybe they are both right???maybe we are missing something?????

>

> I cannot find the info on how to be a vegetarian type O,and each

time

> I mention it,everyone on the board screams eat beef at me,I really

> feel terrible to eat cows,they are so peaceful and beautiful,it

> breaks my heart to wanna eat them....I just cannot bring myself to

do

> it,and its not an option for me!!!

>

> tell me what shall I do????isnt anyone willing to help me build a

> vegetarian diet that will be healthy????

>

> God bless,

>

> T

January 13, 2005

What advise would you give an A who didn't want to give up red meat?

(meaning that he would eat steaks every day)

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