Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2006 Hi Jen -- Welcome to the group. My ped doesn't always agree with me, but since my kids are rarely sick, he really can't make me feel like a bad mother. I think it just bothers him that I challenge what he recommends, and that on those rare occasions when one of my kids is ill, he knows that if he writes a prescription, I probably won't fill it. Anyway, I'm . I live in NY, married to the love of my life, and we have 2 terrific kids, DS 17 and DD 12 - both partially vaxed, and my passion is helping individuals and families overcome health challenges from a nutritional approach. I look forward to getting to know you. Health & blessings, Project MAHMA -- Moms At Home Making A difference... and a lot of money! http://www.ExcitingHealth.CreateMyFuture.com http://www.ThisIsYourShot.biz http://www.Shaklee.net/ExcitingHealth 1-866-312-8064 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2006 Hi Nicola -- Welcome to the group. I'm . I live in NY with my DH and 2 kids -- DS 17 and DD 12, both partially vaxed. Funny you should mention that your DS got whooping cough in spite of the vaccine. As a young child, my DS had a severe allergic reaction to the whooping cough vaccine, so he was only partially vaxed (that's when I started to question vaccine safety), and about 2 years ago he got whooping cough. He didn't have the " whoop " , it was just a persistent cough, and he was able to play lacrosse and football despite the cough. I didn't even realize that's what he had till he was coughing for a few weeks and I figured I should get him checked out by the doctor. Thankfully his immune system is strong and the cough was more annoying than painful -- I know that's not ususally the case. :-( I look forward to getting to know you. Health & blessings, Project MAHMA -- Moms At Home Making A difference... and a lot of money! http://www.ExcitingHealth.CreateMyFuture.com http://www.ThisIsYourShot.biz http://www.Shaklee.net/ExcitingHealth 1-866-312-8064 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2006 Hi Patty -- Welcome to the group -- it's very supportive, and there's a lot of great info. I'm . My DH and I live in NY with our 2 kids, DS 17 and DD 12 - both partially vaxed. My passion is helping individuals and families overcome health challenges from a nutritional approach. I look forward to getting to know you. Health & blessings, Project MAHMA -- Moms At Home Making A difference... and a lot of money! http://www.ExcitingHealth.CreateMyFuture.com http://www.ThisIsYourShot.biz http://www.Shaklee.net/ExcitingHealth 1-866-312-8064 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2006 Thanks !! good to meet you to!! jen c -- Re: intro Hi Jen -- Welcome to the group. My ped doesn't always agree with me, but since my kids are rarely sick, he really can't make me feel like a bad mother. I think it just bothers him that I challenge what he recommends, and that on those rare occasions when one of my kids is ill, he knows that if he writes a prescription, I probably won't fill it. Anyway, I'm . I live in NY, married to the love of my life, and we have 2 terrific kids, DS 17 and DD 12 - both partially vaxed, and my passion is helping individuals and families overcome health challenges from a nutritional approach. I look forward to getting to know you. Health & blessings, Project MAHMA -- Moms At Home Making A difference... and a lot of money! http://www.ExcitingHealth.CreateMyFuture.com http://www.ThisIsYourShot.biz http://www.Shaklee.net/ExcitingHealth 1-866-312-8064 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2006 Thank you. I know it's better to take baby steps. I like using my pedometer, but you wouldn't believe all the times I hit the buttons and cancel out my steps. But I figure as long as I am moving my body, I'm doing good. hugs Marla Re: intro Good for you! That is one of those small steps. You will be so surprised as too how much of a difference cutting some of the small stuff out can make. I'm still taking little steps too but I think all these small steps is making me more aware of what I'm doing. My stepometer fell off my waist yesterday and broke:( Ahh well. they didnt have all these fancy gadgets in the old days. Noone really needs them anyhow. ~:~The Personal Touch~:~Tags, Stats, or anything else personalized with your name.Everything here is personalized!http://free.hostdepartment.com/t/thepersonaltouchMy Personal Web Site Re: intro Hi Marla, This group is wonderful. They have been a GREAT support to me when no one else was. I hope you will continue to join and post and get some great support too. 100-Plus Files page 100-plus/files100-Plus Links page 100-plus/links Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 9, 2006 Thanks for the reply Bill. I would defiantly like to hear your experiences with SMA. I found out 3 years ago what I have after being told several other disease. I would appreciate that very much. You can E-mail me privately also whatever works for you. Terry Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 10, 2006 Marla I am really glad we have helped give you some support. This really is a great place. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 10, 2006 no late night munching GREAT JOB!!!!eeyore1959@... wrote: I have to share this. I did not eat last night before bed. I just kept thinking about all of you, and how supportive you all are. It's like you all gave me strength. Live, Love, Laugh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 10, 2006 that is hard - do you have an alternante snack while she's snacking? Popcorn is one of my favorites fear of failure is strong (come to think of it so is fear of sucess), but with you as a role model - who knows - you both me snacking on veggies <GBG>eeyore1959@... wrote: Oh I am just like you. If I don't see it, I don't think about it, and I don't want it. But it's hard when she sits and snacks in front of me. But I am trying. I did talk with her yesterday about the snacks, and she agreed to keep them someplace I can't find. I kind of think she does want to lose too, but is afraid to try, afraid of failing. So I need to be strong, to show her a positive side. Live, Love, Laugh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 11, 2006 Thanks so much. I've had a good last few days. I weigh in on monday. So I'm hoping. hugs Marla Re: intro no late night munching GREAT JOB!!!!eeyore1959@... wrote: I have to share this. I did not eat last night before bed. I just kept thinking about all of you, and how supportive you all are. It's like you all gave me strength. Live, Love, Laugh 100-Plus Files page 100-plus/files100-Plus Links page 100-plus/links Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 11, 2006 Your right. Instead if fighting the urge to snack with her, it would be easier and maybe more productive to have a healthy snack at the same time. I love popcorn, and baby carrots. I never thought about the fear of success. But it makes sense. Thanks hugs Marla Re: intro that is hard - do you have an alternante snack while she's snacking? Popcorn is one of my favorites fear of failure is strong (come to think of it so is fear of sucess), but with you as a role model - who knows - you both me snacking on veggies <GBG>eeyore1959@... wrote: Oh I am just like you. If I don't see it, I don't think about it, and I don't want it. But it's hard when she sits and snacks in front of me. But I am trying. I did talk with her yesterday about the snacks, and she agreed to keep them someplace I can't find. I kind of think she does want to lose too, but is afraid to try, afraid of failing. So I need to be strong, to show her a positive side. Live, Love, Laugh 100-Plus Files page 100-plus/files100-Plus Links page 100-plus/links Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 14, 2006 Hi Sara -- Welcome to the group. I'm , and I live in NY with my DH and 2 terrific kids, and I wish I'd had curiosity about vaccines when I was 16 -- Happy learning, there's lots of info here. I look forward to getting to know you. Health & blessings, Project MAHMA -- Moms At Home Making A difference... and a lot of money! http://www.ExcitingHealth.CreateMyFuture.com http://www.ThisIsYourShot.biz http://www.Shaklee.net/ExcitingHealth 1-866-312-8064 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 15, 2006 Hi , Thanks for the warm welcome. I have to admit it's cynicism as much as curiosity, lol. I've already learned a lot - hope to continue doing so. -Sara --- P <ExcitingHealth@...> wrote: > Hi Sara -- > > Welcome to the group. I'm , and I live in NY > with my DH and 2 terrific > kids, and I wish I'd had curiosity about vaccines > when I was 16 -- Happy > learning, there's lots of info here. > > I look forward to getting to know you. > > Health & blessings, > > > Project MAHMA -- Moms At Home Making A difference... > and a lot of money! > > http://www.ExcitingHealth.CreateMyFuture.com > > http://www.ThisIsYourShot.biz > > http://www.Shaklee.net/ExcitingHealth > > 1-866-312-8064 > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 19, 2006 On Feb 17, 2006, at 5:16 PM, wrote: > Hello everyone! > > My name is and I'm a soapmaker with 9 years under my belt. > Or is it 10? I can never remember anymore. I've been doing it forever. > *lol* At any rate, I've wanted to learn more about the mysteries of > scent for a long time as I'm not really happy with using fragrance > oils in my products any more. I received some perfume from a friend (who I > truly admire) and it made me want to learn more. So, here I am. > *waving hello from Minnesota* > > > Hi . I am from Minnesota too! I currently live in California, but was home for a month, just got back yesterday. Glad to be out of 30 below!!! Welcome. Do you sell your soap in MN? Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 19, 2006 < I am from Minnesota too! I currently live in California, but was home for a month, just got back yesterday. Glad to be out of 30 below!!! Welcome. Do you sell your soap in MN?> *waving* Hi Jo! Where in California do you live? My Mom migrated that way and is currently down in San Diego. And, yep. I do sell my soap in MN along with a few other places (my wholesale accounts). I don't know if posting a link is appropriate so I'll err on the side of caution and not post it. ;o) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 20, 2006 On Feb 19, 2006, at 4:51 PM, wrote: > < I am from Minnesota too! I currently live in California, but was > home > for a month, just got back yesterday. Glad to be out of 30 below!!! > Welcome. Do you sell your soap in MN?> > > *waving* Hi Jo! Where in California do you live? My Mom > migrated > that way and is currently down in San Diego. And, yep. I do sell my > soap in MN along with a few other places (my wholesale accounts). I > don't know if posting a link is appropriate so I'll err on the side of > caution and not post it. ;o) > > > > I live in Los Angeles. Usually the first of the month you can post > your site and any discounts etc. that you want people to know > about. You can e-mail me privately if you want with your site. I > would love to check it out! Nice to meet a fellow Minnesotan! MJ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 23, 2006 Hi Sara -- Cynicism works -- it all leads to questioning, and that's a good thing! :-) On 2/15/06, Sara <jade_phoenix128@...> wrote: > Hi , > > Thanks for the warm welcome. > I have to admit it's cynicism as much as curiosity, > lol. I've already learned a lot - hope to continue > doing so. > > -Sara Health & blessings, CREATING HEALTHIER LIVES... one family at a time! http://www.Shaklee.net/ExcitingHealth 1-866-312-8064 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 15, 2006 Welcome , you will. There are a lot of nice people here who are quite helpful. When you're ready to procede, there are tons of recipes on the internet to choose from. I just started making my own soaps about 2 months ago. Before that I did the M & P thing for several years. Since I've started, I've made about 15 batches of CP and HP soaps, 1 shampoo, and 2 bubble baths--in addition to still using the M & Ps! It's so addicting--once you get started--and if you're into herbs, there are tons of things you can do with herbs and soaps! Hope you have fun, enjoy. G. <emaria_39@...> wrote: Hello all, My name is and I live in San Diego with my Marine husband and kids. I am a massage therapist and would love to create some of my own products. I am in the process now of making eye pillows and such, but want to know more about making scrubs and soaps and candles to sell. I think I am going to enjoy this group. Thanks for allowing me to join. --------------------------------- Travel Find great deals to the top 10 hottest destinations! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 4, 2006 Welcome LeAnn! I think in time you might change your mind in regards to your statement below about vaccines. : ) Kay LeAnn <wineredroses@...> wrote: I do not feel that vaxes are evil or wholly bad things, but they are not right for my family specifically. LeAnn Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 22, 2006 Intro I > can't find other examples of people with arthritis getting > chrondromalacia. The chrondromalacia usually comes before the > arthritis, not the other way around. I'm not sure what you mean. Chondromalacia is a form of arthritis; Main Entry: ar·thri·tis Pronunciation: är-'thrI-t & s Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural ar·thrit·i·des /-'thri-t & - " dEz/ Etymology: Latin, from Greek, from arthron : inflammation of joints due to infectious, metabolic, or constitutional causes; also : a specific arthritic condition ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////\ //// Chondromalacia means " cartilage inflammation " ......although doctors say cartilage cannot get inflammed.....but that is another story . Welcome to the Twilight Zone of knee problems . Would you be talking about osteoarthritis? That is just another form of arthritis. Mike MT Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 23, 2006 Hi Mike I've only been reading about this condition since yesterday, but sites seem to say that chondromalacia in adults is a type of arthritis, but chrondromalacia in children isn't. Maybe I understood it wrong. The info I've found says having chondromalacia as a child does not make you more susceptible to arthritis as an adult. Ah... here we go.. found this website http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/9339/31202.html which lists causes of chondromalacia ....start quote.... Many different types of joint injuries and joint disorders can lead to chondromalacia. In the knee, chondromalacia is usually related to injury, overuse of the knee, and poorly aligned muscles and bones around the knee joint. These causes include: Trauma, especially a fracture (break) or dislocation of the kneecap An imbalance of the muscles around the knee (Some muscles are weaker than others.) Overuse (repeated bending or twisting) of the knee joint, especially during sports Poorly aligned muscles or bones near the knee joint Injury to a meniscus (C-shaped cartilage inside the knee joint) Rheumatoid arthritis or osteoarthritis An infection in the knee joint Repeated episodes of bleeding inside the knee joint Repeated injections of steroid drugs into the knee .....end quote...... So arthritis can be a cause. My daughter has very short/tight/weak muscles in her knees/ankles and doesn't have a normal range of movement in these joints (she was born like that) so I guess that makes her even more suspectible. People with chondromalacia aren't put on prescription arthritis drugs and don't see rheumatologists.. so why is it classed as arthritis? Donna Australia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 23, 2006 I think chondromalacia is sometimes lumped in with arthritis because a lot of doctors are lazy & don't use their brains. I think arthritis is in the list of things that can cause chondromalacia because, sure, if your articular cartilage is deteriorating from osteoarthritis, you may have spots that deteriorate faster than others and those " divots " look like chondromalacia. But I think REAL chondromalacia is due to one of the other causes. And docs who dismiss it as arthritis are saying they don't want to put the energy into dealing with it. Have you looked up SaluCartilage? It's possible that it's been approved for use in Australia. It's been approved in Europe and Canada (but not, of course, the US, because the FDA likes to wait & see what happens to Europeans for about 15-20 years before they'll approve new procedure or devices -- but not, you'll notice, drugs, which they're paid big money by the pharmaceutical company to approve before they're ready). Pardon my soapbox. SaluCartilage is plugs made of the same polymer that contact lenses are made of, but way tougher. If all you have is spots of worn cartilage and they're not too big, the OS goes in, drills out a clean hole where the spots are, pushed the plugs in, and voila! You can use your legs again. I've written the company that makes them (in the US -- ironic?) to ask when they expect the FDA to approve it here but they never answer me. Ann Re: Intro Hi Mike I've only been reading about this condition since yesterday, but sites seem to say that chondromalacia in adults is a type of arthritis, but chrondromalacia in children isn't. Maybe I understood it wrong. The info I've found says having chondromalacia as a child does not make you more susceptible to arthritis as an adult. Ah... here we go.. found this website http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/9339/31202.html which lists causes of chondromalacia ...start quote.... Many different types of joint injuries and joint disorders can lead to chondromalacia. In the knee, chondromalacia is usually related to injury, overuse of the knee, and poorly aligned muscles and bones around the knee joint. These causes include: Trauma, especially a fracture (break) or dislocation of the kneecap An imbalance of the muscles around the knee (Some muscles are weaker than others.) Overuse (repeated bending or twisting) of the knee joint, especially during sports Poorly aligned muscles or bones near the knee joint Injury to a meniscus (C-shaped cartilage inside the knee joint) Rheumatoid arthritis or osteoarthritis An infection in the knee joint Repeated episodes of bleeding inside the knee joint Repeated injections of steroid drugs into the knee ....end quote...... So arthritis can be a cause. My daughter has very short/tight/weak muscles in her knees/ankles and doesn't have a normal range of movement in these joints (she was born like that) so I guess that makes her even more suspectible. People with chondromalacia aren't put on prescription arthritis drugs and don't see rheumatologists.. so why is it classed as arthritis? Donna Australia Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 23, 2006 Donna: When I was originally classified as having CP my doc made this explanation: I had bad knees - and had them my whole life. Had I been diagnosed at a much younger age I would have been told I had chrondromalacia patella - but because I was over 40(I am 42 now) I had osteoarthritis (oh joy oh bliss!). He explained that they are one and the same - just a different name depending on the age of the patient. I have had this condition since I was a chld - and my history sounds not unlike your daughter's. The difference being - I stopped strenuous activities. I found myself overweight and I still had the problems...just now I had the weight to lose too. Please talk to your doctor and a physiotherapist to find out what activities your daughter can participate in. I started physical exercise again and because of it I was able to reduce the symptoms of the CP. She should concentrate of quadricep muscle strengthening. This will help " tighten " her knee and reduce the pain (believe it or not!). Where in AU are you? I have many friends in Sydney! I hope that your daughter is holding up well - this can be a struggle. Hugs & blessings, Kim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 23, 2006 In the first place, chondromalacia is a name doctors give anterior knee pain when they really don't know what is causing it. Fortunately children with it usually fully recover without harsh treatment. I was under the treatment of a rheumatologist, and took many different types of prescription arthritis drugs for it. The only one that really worked for me was Vioxx, but I quit taking it about a month before it was taken off the market because it was giving me severe headaches. I had undiagnosed severe pain in both knees for years in my teens, but was relatively painfree for about 25 years after that. I am now 50 and have gone through 4 arthroscopic surgeries and have managed to reach a point where I can function in life hopefully for years yet. Mike MT Re: Intro Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 23, 2006 Hi Kim Thanks for your message, and explaining that osteoarthritis and chondromalacia are the same, but it depends on the age of the patient. I am feeling confused about it still as others are saying a different thing. My daughter is overweight, I just did a conversion from kilograms to pounds so you could understand what I am talking about. My 10 year old weighs 121 pounds, which is the size of some adults (that is 55kgs). So she is quite big. The weight problem started the same year as the arthritis. So losing weight is a huge issue for her, and it's not like we haven't tried.. we've been to dieticians, special university programs, plus lots of other things and nothing works. It is very hard to convince her to do any sort of exercise, even going for a simple short walk bring complaints about sore this and sore that. I have a very skinny friend (weighs less than my daughter) who used to be very large (she has lost almost double her weight. She has osteoarthritis in her back and a few other joints (her knees re Ok though) but even when she lost so much weight, it made no difference to the level of pain in her joints. Thanks for the advise as to talking to the physio and doctors about activities. I will do that when we see the physio next week. In Brisbane which is north of Sydney. It's interesting that you had knee pain as a child and it continued all this time. I have a feelign that is that same thing my daughter is in for. Donna Australia > > Donna: > > When I was originally classified as having CP my doc made this > explanation: > > I had bad knees - and had them my whole life. Had I been diagnosed > at a much younger age I would have been told I had chrondromalacia > patella - but because I was over 40(I am 42 now) I had > osteoarthritis (oh joy oh bliss!). He explained that they are one > and the same - just a different name depending on the age of the > patient. > > I have had this condition since I was a chld - and my history sounds > not unlike your daughter's. The difference being - I stopped > strenuous activities. I found myself overweight and I still had the > problems...just now I had the weight to lose too. Please talk to > your doctor and a physiotherapist to find out what activities your > daughter can participate in. I started physical exercise again and > because of it I was able to reduce the symptoms of the CP. > > She should concentrate of quadricep muscle strengthening. This will > help " tighten " her knee and reduce the pain (believe it or not!). > > Where in AU are you? I have many friends in Sydney! > > I hope that your daughter is holding up well - this can be a > struggle. > > Hugs & blessings, > > Kim > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
