HELP

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Hi , But my question still is to treat or not. Sure benefits of clearing this is good, but the side affects worry me. I have dealt with alot in my life , but for some reason in the back of my head I don't want to treat. Are you doing treatment?? Guess what I'm looking for is how other people went through or are going through it. Thanks for writing and I get what you are saying. Later, Theresa Schrage <mschrage@...> wrote: Hi Theresa, To me and in my experience since learning

about having Hep C was to look at clearing my mind of the normal fears and concerns that normally come with such news. Everyone entertains the "what if syndrome." People can become immobilized by this. It depresses, in some cases, a person natural immune abilities. Just like stress it can open the door to other health related difficulties. So what I would suggest first is to come to real terms with the condition. Get your mind under control and look as clearly at your fears as you can. Once you do, then healing is much more possible. In Peace, Help I have just found out my docs want to treat my hep c which i found out i had in 2004. My big question is should i do it???? I read all info on hep

treatments, and side affects, my big thing is the sickness, i am a para and have been one for 32 years , so you see may be harder on me than some. But who knows. I'm trying to find some sort of support and info on should I . I'm not a drinker, nor smoker, really never been sick, found about hep when removed my gallbladder in 2004, if it hadn't been for that they would have never known, so then what. My head hurts I think of the what if's so much, can anyone give a lil advice?? Thanks for listening, hope to hear back. Theresa in Louisiana

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Hello I am not treating yet because I am currently working in Saudi Arabia but I just started taking a vitamin called Maximum Milk Thistle it is supposed to lower your virus count aftera while if you know anything about it let me know. PEACEtheresa hebert <Rodalways70512@...> wrote: Hi , But my question still is to treat or not. Sure benefits of clearing this is good, but the side affects worry me. I have dealt with alot in my life , but for some reason in the back of my head I don't want to treat. Are you doing treatment?? Guess what I'm looking for is how other people went through or are going through it. Thanks for writing and I get what you are saying. Later, Theresa Schrage <mschrage@...> wrote: Hi Theresa, To me and in my experience since learning about having Hep C was to look at clearing my mind of the normal fears and concerns that normally come with such news. Everyone entertains the "what if syndrome." People can become immobilized by this. It depresses, in some cases, a person natural immune abilities. Just like stress it can open the door to other health related difficulties. So what I would suggest first is to come to real terms with the condition. Get your mind under control and look as clearly at

your fears as you can. Once you do, then healing is much more possible. In Peace, Help I have just found out my docs want to treat my hep c which i found out i had in 2004. My big question is should i do it???? I read all info on hep treatments, and side affects, my big thing is the sickness, i am a para and have been one for 32 years , so you see may be harder on me than some. But who knows. I'm trying to find some sort of support and info on should I . I'm not a drinker, nor smoker, really never been sick, found about hep when removed my gallbladder in 2004, if it hadn't been for that they would have never known, so then what. My head hurts I think of the what if's so much, can anyone give a lil advice?? Thanks for listening, hope to hear

back. Theresa in Louisiana

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do you know anything about Maximum Milk Thistle? They claim it will lower your viral count. Please reply.PEACE AND SOUL. Schrage <mschrage@...> wrote: Hi Theresa, To me and in my experience since learning about having Hep C was to look at clearing my mind of the normal fears and concerns that normally come with such news. Everyone entertains the "what if syndrome." People can become immobilized by this. It depresses, in some cases, a person natural immune abilities. Just like stress it can open the door to other

health related difficulties. So what I would suggest first is to come to real terms with the condition. Get your mind under control and look as clearly at your fears as you can. Once you do, then healing is much more possible. In Peace, Help I have just found out my docs want to treat my hep c which i found out i had in 2004. My big question is should i do it???? I read all info on hep treatments, and side affects, my big thing is the sickness, i am a para and have been one for 32 years , so you see may be harder on me than some. But who knows. I'm trying to find some sort of support and info on should I . I'm not a drinker, nor smoker, really never been sick, found about hep when

removed my gallbladder in 2004, if it hadn't been for that they would have never known, so then what. My head hurts I think of the what if's so much, can anyone give a lil advice?? Thanks for listening, hope to hear back. Theresa in Louisiana

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Theresa one thing I feel I Know is what you believe you will create. If you are familiar with placebo studies the person's state of mind affects the outcome. The power of conscious thought is very underrated and little understood. You can take a low dose aspirin and if your in a certain mind, it will offer you all kinds of healing energies.

See Theresa, health is a state of mind. No thing external will work until and unless a person gets a grip on who they are in relationship to whatever it is.

This is why many therapies do not work. People do not believe they have any real power. People rely on externals exclusively to heal. Within our bodies everything for healing is there. The first thing is our thoughts. What you believe you receive.

As I said earlier try to calm your mind.

In Peace,

Help

I have just found out my docs want to treat my hep c which i found out i had in 2004. My big question is should i do it???? I read all info on hep treatments, and side affects, my big thing is the sickness, i am a para and have been one for 32 years , so you see may be harder on me than some. But who knows. I'm trying to find some sort of support and info on should I . I'm not a drinker, nor smoker, really never been sick, found about hep when removed my gallbladder in 2004, if it hadn't been for that they would have never known, so then what. My head hurts I think of the what if's so much, can anyone give a lil advice?? Thanks for listening, hope to hear back. Theresa in Louisiana

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Amen....i liked your response. i am fixing to start

treatment in a few weeks and i am trying to have a

positive attitude about it because i believe that a

positive attitude is most important in a situation

like this. none of us asked to have this disease and

are devistated to learn that we have it. i have talked

to all kinds of people who have had the treatment and

they are all different. Mine I hope is not bad, but if

so it is worth the fact that this may rid my body of

this terrible disease, Its better than the

alternative. Right?

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Hi Theresa, I have read your message, and all of the responses that you have gotten, and I am facing the same thing right now, with not only myself, but both of my children, and my husband. I went to a hepatologist, at the Liver Center, in Houston, Tx., and asked him what I should do. He said that they would not even consider treating my children at the age they are, due to the side effects being far too hard on their bodies. He said that there were things that I could do to keep their viral count down, such as changes in diet, herbal medicines (antioxidants), like Milk thistle, and Alpha Lipoic Acid. DON'T DRINK, was a very strong response from him. Red meats are harder to digest, so you might want to stick with poultry, fish, etc. Water, with a bit of lemon has an antioxidant effect, also. As far as treatment for an adult, he said that the treatment would not get

rid of the virus at this time, but that in a few years, they should have more information, and possibly a cure, and that I should wait. My good friend has this also, and he has cirrhosis, at this point, and he regrets not having taken the treatment, but I know others who have taken it, and they had to quit their jobs, and are a bit better, but are still fighting the disease. There is no one that can tell us whether we should or shouldn't take the treatment, as is it such an individual thing, but I did read one message that said that a woman who had undergone the treatment (from our group), and it did not help. She lost her life anyway. I am going to listen to the specialist, and hold out for something better. They are making leaps and bounds with research, and I have faith that a cure will be found to get rid of this for good. You should do what you feel comfortable with, and listen to the real experts. Keep your chin up. SBTHERESA <Rodalways70512@...> wrote: I have just found out my docs want to treat my hep c which i found out i had in 2004. My big question is should i do it???? I read all info on hep treatments, and side affects, my big thing is the sickness, i am a para and have been one for 32 years , so you see may be harder on me than some. But who knows. I'm trying to find some sort of support and info on should I . I'm not a drinker, nor smoker, really never been sick, found about hep when removed my gallbladder in 2004, if it hadn't been for that they would have never known, so then what. My head hurts I think of the what if's so much, can anyone give a lil advice?? Thanks for listening, hope to hear back.Theresa in Louisiana

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Hi Gillian,

I am sorry to hear of your problems and pain and scoliosis. From what

I've been told, the loss of feeling in one's legs and private region

can be considered a medical emergency, and can be caused by back

problems (one example is lumbar herniated disks),among other things.

Since your most recent acute problem, has anyone taken a x-ray or MRI

of your spine? Keeping in mind that I'm not a doctor and don't know

your entire medical history to know if it's entirely appropriate, I'd

look into getting a spine x-ray and an evaluation by whatever

medical professional you can get to quickly that is familiar with

spines. Not to scare you, but I believe that problems higher up in

the spine or spinal cord can cause problems in the lower body as well.

While many of us here at this group have scoliosis, the group is

designed primarily for support of those with problems caused by

nonsegmental (Harrington rod) instrumentation. Since it sounds like

you don't have any spinal instrumentation currently, you would

probably find more of the type of information you are looking for if

you join a Scoliosis support group or a spine support group. Here are

a couple of sites that you might find useful:

Scoliosis Treatment/messages

http://www.scoliosis.org/forum/index.php

http://www.spine-dr.com/site/BB/index.cfm

I hope that you will be able to find a medical professional to help

you. (If any other members have other/better advice, please chime in

ASAP!)

loriann

>

> Hi All

> I am new but moderate another Arthritic Group and member at another

> on Health.

> To cut a long story short, I am 46 female reside in Ireland Europe.

> I have been diagnosed with Arthritis, too many to mention and not a

> real problem. However in 1996 a x-ray revealed Lumbar Spine

> Scoliosis, which is a curved sideways spine in my lower back.

> Then in 2002 due to back pain I had another x-ray and the result:

> Scoliosis of the Lumbar Spine convex to right degenrative changes

> are noted at L2/3 and L3/4 hope that means something to someone.

> Last year 2005 I had what I thought was some weird spasm that came

> out just above my pubic hair line. It was bad enough to take first

> my legs away and then my breath away! Saw my Physyican who thought

> it might be 'kidney stones' so ordered a Ultrasound but told me not

> to worry better out than in? While waiting for the Ultrasouns

> appointment, one evening got up from the chair to make a cup of tea,

> lifted the kettle and yes you have it BANG! Same acute onset pain,

> same place, same legs and breathe failure. It lasted for thirty

> minutes, then vanished but the soreness, felt as if I had been

> kicked by a horse in the abdomen and back! This time my GP gave me

> morphiene, do not remember much of that day, night, day. Twas

> probably a fluke so why worry.

> Saturday morning still waiting for the Ultrasound non-urgent was

> three month waiting list, got out of bed and BANG. OK enough is

> enough I rang for a taxi ended up in ER and off we jolly well went.

> Tis long, so the short of it all my organsa were checked, kidneys,

> gall bladder, baldder, ovaries, womb, appendix and I had smears,

> swabs. In November I returned to GYN [do not ask] to be told all was

> NORMAL, but as I am starting the menopausel phase it was probably

> due to my womb shrinking? I did not have another sudden acute onset

> so did not worry.

> Last Wednesday I was woken from my sleep by a pain, turned over and

> BANG! Same thing and I felt like screaming. I saw my Physician who

> gave me a large injection of anti-inflammatory in one butt, another

> pain killer in the other butt and a prescription for Durogesic

> Transdermal Patch conatins Fentanyl! Then my Physician said 'Gill

> you need a MRI, to see the nerves!' Now I could not sit down but

> felt better. Stuck the patch on Thursday night had a few weird

> dreams. Friday was groggy and then 8pm I vomitted. I vomitted again

> at 11pm, Saturday 8am and again 10am, before seeing a Physician who

> gave me another injection in my butt!

> Since then I have felt zero. Moreover going for a call of nature is

> interesting now have to use a mirror to make sure i cleaned myself.

> I went to Pilates and my legs could be in America for all I can feel

> and managed to scare most of the other females attending into

> requesting Tuesday Night Class of Pilates, to get away from me, I

> guess? The coordination is zero below the waist, so we had a few

> bangs, clashes? OK Newtons Cradle!

> Now I really need to know what to expect IF they suggest spinal

> surgery? Might was to fuse, or straighten, perhaps both? I need to

> know the Risks Vs. Benefits so am hoping someone will be able to

> HELP?

> Sorry it is long and for barging in, but Scoliosis is not on any of

> my Arthritic members and I am not sure any have had disc/nerve

> problems, although they have nearly all had MRI's?

> Thanking you in anticipation

> Gillian

>

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I always know you're great.

i apologize for the delay in getting back to you, -- I haven't looked at my

e-mails for awhile.

At 02:49 PM 6/1/2006 +0200, you wrote:

>dear Bayard and other senior immuners, I need your help to go ahead or not

>or in which other ways, with this immunics project I love a lot.

>I have started this project in Italy in march and I went on untill now

>carried by my enthusiasm for your work and discoveries. But now I think I

>really need your help because I don't want to do something wrong. It is

>not " my " work, it's " your " work, you have to direct it. I will explain

>myself better:

>1) I made a little handbook for people to have and keep at home, that I

>can send to you if you want to have a look and approve it or reject it. It

>contains: some consideration about immunics, the hub and the beginning

>lesson (what is Harmonic accessing, how do you test). Than the resume of

>the lessons about: remove viruses, remove traumas, alliance with your

>organs, recode your DNA. With this in their hands, they can read and learn

>all these skills easily. next manual will cover the remaning lessons for

>skill 1, and maybe the accelerator, I don't know because I am doing it

>right now for the next meeting. Then I will try to put the other skills

>on a third one. I am giving also some lists so people can test various

>items. Now, with this handbook people will not need to access your site

>anymore, even if it is just a resume, and taking into account that they

>don't speak english, so it would have been impossible anyway. Maybe some

>of them will keep in touch, many of them will be lost on the road. But

>they can still pass on to other friends the handbook for free. So at the

>end, you will not receive money benefits from my work. But your work will

>spread a lot. maybe other people will join if they have the possibility to

>have a look at the handbooks. You know, Italy is not U.S. Here a lot of

>people don't like or don't even know how to use internet, many don't speak

>english at all. The thing is: did I do wrong creating this handbook? Do

>you think or like to have it or should I eliminate it? Is it your work, so

>I feel a sort of uneasiness in taking initiative for you. Maybe you don't

>like it at all. So, before going ahead, please let me know what you think.

>2) I have taught to some people in Milan, Rome and Venice (radionics

>students of mine and their friends). I have asked for a little money for

>one afternoon lesson and the handbook (35 euro). I will donate part of

>this sum to you as royalties. What do you think about this? Do you like it

>or do you have other directions for me?

>3) I created a group. Now people who don't know anything suscribed,

>and asked to know things from other people in the group to whom I

>explained before. I don't have any site (except your in english) to send

>them to learn. I can imagine you are suspicious about me, and maybe you

>don't trust my translations. Can you find an italian reader to check and

>correct my work? So we can put the italian version as soon as possible. I

>can create an italian site, similar to yours but not so extensive right

>now. We can put your paypal button (a friend told me it is very easy to

>put it) so the donations will go directly to you for the access. Or you

>can have the translations and put it in your italian version site. People

>who recieved the handbook, can also give it for free via emails or mail.Or

>download it in other internet sites or group, or ask me to download them

>in my immunic group, saying is for the benefit of humanity.

>4) I am making a lot of noise about immunics around. I am well known in

>Italy, for my radionics work, as a writer and I participated in tv

>programs and write on newspapers. So, I can bet that another italian

>writer sooner will use my translations to write a book about immunics,

>explaining all the techniques.

>So, these are the things that are worring me now. Please, let me know what

>you think and how to go ahead in a way you approve.

>Warm regards

>Alessandra Previdi

Your friend,

Bayard

http://www.TheCureDrive.org

32,000 cures and counting

[Guest guest]

What you said here makes it all the more imperative that you organize a

March or demonstration.

Buz.

At 04:07 PM 6/7/2006 +0200, you wrote:

>Hi Bayard, I have read the link but I find difficult here in Italy to do

>those things. We don't have " churches " like your have in US so easily. The

>only movement that accomplished to be recognized as a church is

>Scientology, but they don't say they cure people. We cannot say that we

> " cure " anything, not even an animal. People are being put in prison just

>for saying this, (only doctors can cure, only conventional medicine can

>cure) Here we don't recognize acupuncture, neither homeopathy, reiki,

>touch for health, ecc.ecc. Even to give a Bach flower can be a problem ( a

>penal law problem, this means that you go to prison). I will be in Venice

>for a few days, will be back next week. I think if you have something as

>Skipe or similar can be a good way to communicate. I don't speak english

>very well so I can help myself writing (this is not good too!! But I have

>time to think). Also, in the afternoon I usually stay with my little baby,

>she is 2 years old and tuesday and wednsday I work in a healing centre (I

>am a colonic irrigation practitioner besides many other things!!) So a

>good day can be monday, thursday or friday, in the morning. let me know if

>you have skipe or other systems, or what you suggest.

>I have just bought a translation software (Systransoft) so I can probably

>speed the translations of your site. I think this is the main action to

>do, because people don't know how to get informations after I have

>inspired them about immunics. I will not prepare not give any other

>handbook besides the first one, untill your comunication about this. (by

>the way, I have just received an email from US, a girl is asking for my

>handbook, she must have read about it in the immunics group.)

>Ciao!

>Alessandra

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Re: HELP

>

>

>>Send me your number and I'll give you a buzz at some point over the next

>>few days when I have a little time. Familiarize yourself with the

>>projects on this page immediately -- we'll be talking about them, if you

>>haven't already.

>>http://www.wayimmune.org/00open/1_save_lives/save_lives.htm

>>

>>Bayard

Your friend,

Bayard

http://www.TheCureDrive.org

32,000 cures and counting

[Guest guest]

Hi Isabel,

Do you know EFT? If not you can download the manual at www.emofree.com

and learn to do it in about an hour I'd say.

The best thing to do I think is to simply tap on 'Even though I'm so

hurt my husband has left me for another woman I deeply and completely

accept myself'.

That may be good enough but there may also be more specific aspects

involved such as 'I feel betrayed' etc. The thing to do is just search

your own feelings and tap on what comes up.

Have you thought about contacting an EFT therapist? That would be the

best thing by far. You should be able to find one near you from the

website above.

It may seem like the pain could never ever possibly go away,

especially not by a silly tapping process. But just bear in mind,

according to EFT, even the most intense awful emotions are simply

blockages of energy, that's all they are. They even, I think, lose

some of their intensity when you consider that and best of all when

you tap they evaporate.

All the best,

Alistair

>

> Hello my name is Isabel I'm so hurt my husband of 17 years has left me

> for another women. I can't think right I lost my job because of this. I

> don't know what to do. Can someone help me.

>

[Guest guest]

HELLO BANDSTERS I HOPE EVERYONE IS LOSING LOSING. I NEED HELP. I

RECEIVED MY SECOND FILL ON 3/12/06 (2.0) AND I FELT REALLY RESTRCITED

THROUGHOUT THE DAY. WELL MORE IN THE MORNINGS. I'M NOW AT A POINT WHERE

I REALLY DON'T FEEL AS RESTRICTED IN THE LATER PART OF THE DAY AND I'M

REALLY REALLY HUNGRY. I WAS THINKING THAT I NEEDED TO GET ANOTHER FILL.

BUT, I DIDN'T WANT TO RUSH IT. I'VE LOST 15 LBS SINCE MY LAST FILL

HOWEVER, I HAVEN'T MOVED DOWNWARD IN ABOUT 2 WEEKS. I HAVE HOWEVER

GAINED 4 LBS AND I HAVEN'T CHANGED MY WORKOUT SCHEDULE. I'VE ACTUALLY

INCLUDED 2 ADDITIONAL AEROBIC CLASSES DURING THE WEEK TO MY 5 X'S A

WEEK CARDIO AND FIVE DAYS OF WT TRAINING.

[Guest guest]

You know muscle weighs more than fat. Measure your inch lost. Just my Opinion. Hope this helps.I'm still on Top of the World. Lost another # this morning, makes 11# total so far, but I am not exercising, just walking. Best thing I've done for myself in years. Would do it again in a heart beat. Thank You Liz for the sweet note. You all have given me so much inspiration on the last 1 1/2 yrs.Than I was just reading the posts. So Glad to get you a boost!!!!! Hey let me know if you need another--I'm a Happy Bandsters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Deb benyam02 <sheegog@...> wrote: HELLO BANDSTERS I HOPE EVERYONE IS LOSING LOSING. I NEED HELP. I RECEIVED MY SECOND FILL ON 3/12/06 (2.0) AND I FELT REALLY RESTRCITED THROUGHOUT THE DAY. WELL MORE IN THE MORNINGS. I'M NOW AT A POINT WHERE I REALLY DON'T FEEL AS RESTRICTED IN THE LATER PART OF THE DAY AND I'M REALLY REALLY HUNGRY. I WAS THINKING THAT I NEEDED TO GET ANOTHER FILL. BUT, I DIDN'T WANT TO RUSH IT. I'VE LOST 15 LBS SINCE MY LAST FILL HOWEVER, I HAVEN'T MOVED DOWNWARD IN ABOUT 2 WEEKS. I HAVE HOWEVER GAINED 4 LBS AND I HAVEN'T CHANGED MY WORKOUT SCHEDULE. I'VE ACTUALLY INCLUDED 2 ADDITIONAL AEROBIC CLASSES DURING THE WEEK TO MY 5 X'S A WEEK CARDIO AND FIVE DAYS OF WT TRAINING.

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[Guest guest]

It is possible that you are gaining muscle, and muscle weighs more then fat. Are you losing inches? 290/209/180 DOB 9-20-05benyam02 <sheegog@...> wrote: HELLO BANDSTERS I HOPE EVERYONE IS LOSING LOSING. I NEED HELP. I RECEIVED MY SECOND FILL ON 3/12/06 (2.0) AND I FELT REALLY RESTRCITED THROUGHOUT THE DAY. WELL MORE IN THE MORNINGS. I'M NOW AT A POINT WHERE I REALLY DON'T FEEL AS RESTRICTED IN THE LATER PART OF THE DAY AND I'M REALLY REALLY HUNGRY. I WAS

THINKING THAT I NEEDED TO GET ANOTHER FILL. BUT, I DIDN'T WANT TO RUSH IT. I'VE LOST 15 LBS SINCE MY LAST FILL HOWEVER, I HAVEN'T MOVED DOWNWARD IN ABOUT 2 WEEKS. I HAVE HOWEVER GAINED 4 LBS AND I HAVEN'T CHANGED MY WORKOUT SCHEDULE. I'VE ACTUALLY INCLUDED 2 ADDITIONAL AEROBIC CLASSES DURING THE WEEK TO MY 5 X'S A WEEK CARDIO AND FIVE DAYS OF WT TRAINING.

[Guest guest]

Hi, You probably are gaining alot of muscles but, 15 lbs in 4 months is on the slow side I think. We should be losing 1-2lbs a week or 4-8 lbs a month on average. So, my opinion is filler' up! With that awesome work-out schedule and a fill, you will really kick-start your weight loss!!

Good luck.......Dana

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HELLO BANDSTERS I HOPE EVERYONE IS LOSING LOSING. I NEED HELP. I RECEIVED MY SECOND FILL ON 3/12/06 (2.0) AND I FELT REALLY RESTRCITED THROUGHOUT THE DAY. WELL MORE IN THE MORNINGS. I'M NOW AT A POINT WHERE I REALLY DON'T FEEL AS RESTRICTED IN THE LATER PART OF THE DAY AND I'M REALLY REALLY HUNGRY. I WAS THINKING THAT I NEEDED TO GET ANOTHER FILL. BUT, I DIDN'T WANT TO RUSH IT. I'VE LOST 15 LBS SINCE MY LAST FILL HOWEVER, I HAVEN'T MOVED DOWNWARD IN ABOUT 2 WEEKS. I HAVE HOWEVER GAINED 4 LBS AND I HAVEN'T CHANGED MY WORKOUT SCHEDULE. I'VE ACTUALLY INCLUDED 2 ADDITIONAL AEROBIC CLASSES DURING THE WEEK TO MY 5 X'S A WEEK CARDIO AND FIVE DAYS OF WT TRAINING.

[Guest guest]

Hi I am a newbie. I was banded on 6-16-06. Right now is a healing and adjusting

time. The weight that you lose before your first fill is a Bonus. Of couse we

are going to lose some weight. We only had broth, water, protien drinks and

juice for the first 2 weeks. I lost 15 pounds during that time. And didnt expct

to keep it off once I stared the other stages. But I have. The real losing is

coming after you get your fill. " Be patient " , as Ive been told. I know its hard.

But you'll soon see the weight flying off after the proper fill. Take care.

KIra

---- mchlanna <mchlanna@...> wrote:

>

> Bandster,

>

> I need help. I was banded on 6/30/06 and was sick for two weeks. I

> could not hold anything down. I am much better now and I'm doing the

> protein drink in the morning, soup in the afternoon and very little

> soup in the evening or yogurt and that is it with water in between or

> diet lipton green tea. I lost a total of 23 pounds the first two

> weeks which is great, but now Naomi and I are getting discourage

> because no more weight is coming off. I do feel my clothes looser and

> I feel great, but why don't the pounds come off what are we doing

> wrong. Today is our 18 day since the surgery. Do we need to add

> something to our diet or maybe remove the protein drink? I added the

> protein drink because, I was just feeling too light headed and was

> ready to pass out. If anyone can suggest something, please do so. I

> don't want to feel discourage or like a failure. Thanks,

>

>

>

>

>

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, If you are not getting in enough calories your body will stop losing weight. Do not stop taking the proetien shakes, you need them, you are not getting in enough nutrition so you need the shakes. You will not be losing weight at the rate of 10 lbs a week, it is not a realistic expectation or a healthy one. Not even bypass patients lose at this rate. Right now your focus needs to be on healing, do not worry about the weight loss in this stage. Your body is healing and you need to get as much nutrition as you can even on this liquids stage. At this stage (week3) you may also add the pureed fruits daily. If you are still very restricted for this you can have the fruits that practically melt in your mouth like watermelon for example. Your goal is 800 to 1000 calories a day, right now it may be dififcult but as you add more foods it will get easier. Nina mchlanna <mchlanna@...> wrote: Bandster,I need help. I was banded on 6/30/06 and was sick for two weeks. I could not hold anything down. I am much better now and I'm doing the protein drink in the morning, soup in the afternoon and very little soup in the evening or yogurt and that is it with water in between or diet lipton green tea. I lost a total of 23 pounds the first two weeks which is great, but now Naomi and I are getting discourage because no more

weight is coming off. I do feel my clothes looser and I feel great, but why don't the pounds come off what are we doing wrong. Today is our 18 day since the surgery. Do we need to add something to our diet or maybe remove the protein drink? I added the protein drink because, I was just feeling too light headed and was ready to pass out. If anyone can suggest something, please do so. I don't want to feel discourage or like a failure. Thanks,

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Thanks Nina, I needed to hear that.nina eguia <nina_eguia@...> wrote: , If you are not getting in enough calories your body will stop losing weight. Do not stop taking the proetien shakes, you need them, you are not getting in enough nutrition so you need the shakes. You will not be losing weight at the rate of 10 lbs a week, it is not a realistic expectation or a healthy one. Not even bypass patients lose at this rate. Right now your focus needs to be

on healing, do not worry about the weight loss in this stage. Your body is healing and you need to get as much nutrition as you can even on this liquids stage. At this stage (week3) you may also add the pureed fruits daily. If you are still very restricted for this you can have the fruits that practically melt in your mouth like watermelon for example. Your goal is 800 to 1000 calories a day, right now it may be dififcult but as you add more foods it will get easier. Nina mchlanna <mchlanna@...> wrote: Bandster,I need help. I was banded on 6/30/06 and was sick for two weeks. I could not hold anything down. I am much better now and I'm doing the protein drink in the morning, soup in the afternoon and very little soup in

the evening or yogurt and that is it with water in between or diet lipton green tea. I lost a total of 23 pounds the first two weeks which is great, but now Naomi and I are getting discourage because no more weight is coming off. I do feel my clothes looser and I feel great, but why don't the pounds come off what are we doing wrong. Today is our 18 day since the surgery. Do we need to add something to our diet or maybe remove the protein drink? I added the protein drink because, I was just feeling too light headed and was ready to pass out. If anyone can suggest something, please do so. I don't want to feel discourage or like a failure. Thanks, Nina

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//I am having a really bad food day.//

We all have these. Some are worse then others.

What foods have been getting stuck?

// I can't keep anything down. //

I really want to help but I need more information.

Did you just wake up and you could not eat or drink or did you try

to eat something and then PB'd?

If you just woke up restricted and did nothing to cause it, it could

be " that time " and perhaps you are a little more restricted then

normal.

If you PB'd something and then tried to eat again (and PB'd again),

you may have irritated your stoma. This may be why you can not even

get water down.

I think when this happened to me, Nina suggested taking small sips

of warm liquid (tea, water) every 10-15 min. when I say small I

mean like a tablespoon at a time.

If you are still not able to keep this down, Dr A told me to not

drink anything for a few hours. This will give your stoma time for

the swelling to go down.

//Has anyone ever had this problem and how long does it last?//

This happened to me but it was right after surgery. It was just my

body's way of reacting to a foreign object. I panicked and ended up

in the ER getting an IV. I thought I was going to die from

dehydration. If only I had listened to Dr A and Nina when they said

it would go away.

Please keep in mind this is just my opinion based on my experience.

I am not a Dr, nurse or any other medical professional. If you

truly fear your band or your health may be in jeopardy, call Nina

immediately.

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Tonia, Stop trying to get anything down fro about 6 hours and then start again with water. Do not force anything down it won't work, just let is rest a few hours and start agian slowly. Call me if you need to. Nina 888344 3916 Tonia Telles <toniatelles@...> wrote: I am having a really bad food day. I can't keep anything down. I was banded 7-13-06 and have had no fills. I drank 2 ounces of water today and it came right up. I

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Hi . I see where you've mentioned " that time " . Can you

elaborate on your experience. Other than the regular misery that

comes once a month, is there something else we pre-ops should be

aware of? Thanks, .

>

> //I am having a really bad food day.//

> We all have these. Some are worse then others.

> What foods have been getting stuck?

>

> // I can't keep anything down. //

> I really want to help but I need more information.

> Did you just wake up and you could not eat or drink or did you try

> to eat something and then PB'd?

> If you just woke up restricted and did nothing to cause it, it

could

> be " that time " and perhaps you are a little more restricted then

> normal.

>

> If you PB'd something and then tried to eat again (and PB'd

again),

> you may have irritated your stoma. This may be why you can not

even

> get water down.

>

> I think when this happened to me, Nina suggested taking small sips

> of warm liquid (tea, water) every 10-15 min. when I say small I

> mean like a tablespoon at a time.

> If you are still not able to keep this down, Dr A told me to not

> drink anything for a few hours. This will give your stoma time

for

> the swelling to go down.

>

> //Has anyone ever had this problem and how long does it last?//

> This happened to me but it was right after surgery. It was just

my

> body's way of reacting to a foreign object. I panicked and ended

up

> in the ER getting an IV. I thought I was going to die from

> dehydration. If only I had listened to Dr A and Nina when they

said

> it would go away.

>

> Please keep in mind this is just my opinion based on my

experience.

> I am not a Dr, nurse or any other medical professional. If you

> truly fear your band or your health may be in jeopardy, call Nina

> immediately.

>

>

> 7/18/05

> 280/180/140

>

[Guest guest]

//Other than the regular misery that comes once a month, is there

something else we pre-ops should be aware of? //

Some people feel more restriction on or around " that time. "

I usually notice this a day or 2 before " that time " . I just wake up

and it feels like I had a fill overnight. For me, it only lasts a

couple of days. For others, it may last longer.

I am not sure why this happens. Maybe your body retains water and

everything swells up. This might cause your stoma to swell up (making

the band tighter).

Nina might be able to better answer why this happens.

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[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for the info . Sounds like a win win

situation to me. A free fill once a month, not too shabby. Hey,

I'll take it where I can get it. Thanks again. .

>

> //Other than the regular misery that comes once a month, is there

> something else we pre-ops should be aware of? //

>

> Some people feel more restriction on or around " that time. "

> I usually notice this a day or 2 before " that time " . I just wake

up

> and it feels like I had a fill overnight. For me, it only lasts a

> couple of days. For others, it may last longer.

> I am not sure why this happens. Maybe your body retains water and

> everything swells up. This might cause your stoma to swell up

(making

> the band tighter).

> Nina might be able to better answer why this happens.

>

>

> 7/18/05

> 280/180/140

>

[Guest guest]

I have found that there are always good and bad days. I just had my 3rd fill yesterday and I am going threw the same thing. I just take small sips of Isopure. I did get a cheese stick down... I really needed some calories. I was banded on 02-10-06. Hang in there. Sometimes it can last up to a week. But, usually it only last a couple of days.

[Guest guest]

I was in a rut as well the past few weeks where the scales wouldnt

tip, what I started doing was eating little healthy snacks every 2

hours between meals, so I would have grapes/apple/nectarine before

lunch and then have maybe a snack size tuna kit before I headed out

to the gym. If you can boost your protein in between meals that will

help, also change up your exercise. I decided one day of the week I

would swim at my local gym's pool and it seemed to help. I've also

started eating higher protein in the AM, I'll have like 3 chicken

nuggets which is about 120 cal but 12g of protein, then my 1/2

sandwich with turkey or chicken, then something high in protein in

the evening...like Fish. Kinda change things up a bit and see how it

works...give the body chance to adjust. You'll be surprised cause

all of a sudden I had dropped 4lbs which seemed over night. Also,

drink lots of water...it aids in losing weight. My gym produces

these flyers and it says that sometimes we think we are hungry when

in fact we need water...so drink water if you feel a twinge of

hunger to see if that is what your body really needed. Take Care!

Kelli

>

> Hello everyone

>

> This is keri in Florida. i have not wrote in awhile because

life has been crazy. any way i need help. i have lost a total of

50 lbs in 5 months. but i am stuck at 250. and cant go down. i

has been like this for the past 3 weeks, i dont need a fill but what

can i do to loose again. please help.

>

> keri

>

>

>

>

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Dear Chrissy,

When I told my beloved husband that I was going to have the lapband

done, he replied with most of the same comments that your honey gave

you. I love you anyway, I'm too concerned about your health, etc....

I have to be honest, the first few weeks were a little tense at the

Household. He couldn't believe that I would ever do something

he asked me not to do, and I couldn't believe that he would ever ask

me NOT to do something that I was convinced that I HAD to do to

survive. He sulked, I sulked, we had a few heated discussions about

it, I complained to my parents, he complained to my in-laws, and we

both told the other to " get over it " on more than one occasion.

When he told me that he loved me just the way I was, and didn't want

to risk losing me on the operating table, I asked if he would

realllllllly feel that much better if I dropped dead next year from

complications of my morbid obesity. ( Actually, I had to use that

line on my parents, too......I believe in recycling whenever

possible!)

I never expected that he would go with me, especially since he was

opposed to it in the first place, and when I returned from Mexicali

he didn't ask about the procedure, at least not at first.

Within a few weeks, as the weight was coming off, and I was careful

to only talk about the positive effects that I was experiencing, but

not the specific pound issues- for example, i'd say " Gosh, i have a

lot of energy tonight, wanna go for a walk? " he slowly started

asking questions about the lapband, about how I felt, and asking

information seeking ( instead of argument provoking) questions.

Now, he will do things like notice that the protein bars I like are

on sale, and pick up a package. Or smile at me when I am leaving for

work and comment on my " new " outfit ( meaning something that has

been in the storage closet for years).

Thankfully, we have also gotten to the point that we are completely

over the conflict that we initially had about this issue. I can

tease him and tell him that I'm glad he finally quit being such a

a** about this, and he will tease back and tell me that the next

time I decide to have some sort of surgical procedure he is allowed

to spend the equal amount of money on a big screen tv....

Hang in there. Even the people that we love the most are entitled to

be jerks from time to time. It makes them hard to live with, but we

do owe them the opportunity to see if they can pull themselves out

of it and turn into decent caring human beings again. <g>

But, in the end, it is YOUR body. You are the one who has to live

with yourself, and if this is the path that you are meant to take,

take it. Life is toooooo short to go through it being obese,

unhappy, unable to enjoy life and struggling with being a second

class citizen.

Best of luck to you, and to your loved one,

>

> I HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO THIS FOR A WHILE. AND WHEN IFOUND DR.A I

WAS

> SO EXCITED. I FINALLY GOT APPROVED FOR THE LOAN. I TOLD MY FIANCE

WHAT

> I WANTED TO DO AND HE GOT UPSET, HE SAID I LOVE YOU THE WAY YOU

ARE

> AND I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO THIS. HE SAID IF YOU CAN'T LOOSE IT

> NATURALLY THEN IT IS NOT MENT TO BE.HE DOSEN'T WANT ANYTHING BAD

TO

> HAPPEN TO ME PLUS HE HAS READ OF STORIES WHERE THE BAND SLIPS AND

HE

> THEN SAID YOUR GONNA SPEND 8,000 ON THIS AND THEN IT SLPIS THEN

WHAT,

> OR HE SAYS WE LIVE IN WASHINGTON STATE AND HE IS IN MEXICO WHAT

ABOUT

> THESE FILL HOW OFTEN DO YOU DO THEM, CAUSE YOU HAVE TO FIGURE IN A

> PLANETICKET EVERYTIME. I WAS SOOOOO EXCITED, BUT NOW I DONT KNOW

WHAT

> TO DO. HE IS SO AGAINST IT. I UNDERSTAND HE IS WORRIED ABOUT

ME,BUT I

> GUESS I THOUGHT HE WOULD BE AS EXCITED AS I AM. HE SAID IF I DO GO

HE

> WILL NOT BE HAPPY AND HE REFUSES TO GO WITH ME. SO ANYBODY HAVE

ANY

> HELPFULL THOUGHTS?

>

> CRISSY

>