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What a wonderful post. I'm so glad that you were able to get your sleep back on

track. Sometimes the problem is emotional/mental and sometimes physical. But it

should *always* be addressed.

When my kids were babies it was terrible for me. I'm one of those that simply

cannot function when sleep deprived. That was the worst memory I have from when

they were very little.

Barbara

Help

My name is Doug, I have had " heavy head " feelings for the past 4-5

years, and Doc.'s chalked it up to not sleeping well. I just lived w/

it.

I had one of these sensations while giving a presentation, resulted in

a panic attack. This was 9 months ago and continue w/ problems.

Doc.'s want me to take Lexapro. 10mg for the first two weeks and then

20mg for 3 months, is that a lot for someone w/ mild(what i call)

issues? I'm scared of it's effects, withdrawals, etc.

I think I can control it w/ my attitude on my own. Maybe I'm wrong.

What about counsling? If you start Lexapro, do people stay on it their

whole life?

Please help.

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That is great. I've had good sleep the last 3 nights and a much better 2.5

days. I don't really expect it to change over night, but what was your

experience? How long does it take to start feeling 100% after getting good

sleep?

Is pressure/fullness in your ears a symptom of anxiety? I already had my ears

checked......

Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote:

What a wonderful post. I'm so glad that you were able to get your sleep back

on track. Sometimes the problem is emotional/mental and sometimes physical. But

it should *always* be addressed.

When my kids were babies it was terrible for me. I'm one of those that simply

cannot function when sleep deprived. That was the worst memory I have from when

they were very little.

Barbara

Help

My name is Doug, I have had " heavy head " feelings for the past 4-5

years, and Doc.'s chalked it up to not sleeping well. I just lived w/

it.

I had one of these sensations while giving a presentation, resulted in

a panic attack. This was 9 months ago and continue w/ problems.

Doc.'s want me to take Lexapro. 10mg for the first two weeks and then

20mg for 3 months, is that a lot for someone w/ mild(what i call)

issues? I'm scared of it's effects, withdrawals, etc.

I think I can control it w/ my attitude on my own. Maybe I'm wrong.

What about counsling? If you start Lexapro, do people stay on it their

whole life?

Please help.

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When my psych and I finally figured out what I should be taking, full sleep came

in two nights. And if I sleep well, my days are wonderful! If I don't sleep I

am like a monster, a crying mess, feeling guilty and remorse for this and that,

thinking God is punishing me for something...it's horrible not sleeping.

Liz

“We have loved the stars too fondly to fear the night.â€

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That is great. I've had good sleep the last 3 nights and a much better 2.5 days.

I don't really expect it to change over night, but what was your experience? How

long does it take to start feeling 100% after getting good sleep?

Is pressure/fullness in your ears a symptom of anxiety? I already had my ears

checked......

Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote:

What a wonderful post. I'm so glad that you were able to get your sleep back on

track. Sometimes the problem is emotional/mental and sometimes physical. But it

should *always* be addressed.

When my kids were babies it was terrible for me. I'm one of those that simply

cannot function when sleep deprived. That was the worst memory I have from when

they were very little.

Barbara

Help

My name is Doug, I have had " heavy head " feelings for the past 4-5

years, and Doc.'s chalked it up to not sleeping well. I just lived w/

it.

I had one of these sensations while giving a presentation, resulted in

a panic attack. This was 9 months ago and continue w/ problems.

Doc.'s want me to take Lexapro. 10mg for the first two weeks and then

20mg for 3 months, is that a lot for someone w/ mild(what i call)

issues? I'm scared of it's effects, withdrawals, etc.

I think I can control it w/ my attitude on my own. Maybe I'm wrong.

What about counsling? If you start Lexapro, do people stay on it their

whole life?

Please help.

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Sleeplessness is a symptom of depression. Once the depression is treated, the

sleep pattern will improve. My experience. Sue CWhat a wonderful post.

I'm so glad that you were able to get your sleep back on track. Sometimes the

problem is emotional/mental and sometimes physical. But it should *always* be

addressed.When my kids were babies it was terrible for me. I'm one of those that

simply cannot function when sleep deprived. That was the worst memory I have

from when they were very little.Barbara

HelpMy name is Doug, I have had " heavy head " feelings for the past 4-5

years, and Doc.'s chalked it up to not sleeping well. I just lived w/ it.I had

one of these sensations while giving a presentation, resulted in a panic attack.

This was 9 months ago and continue w/ problems. Doc.'s want me to take Lexapro.

10mg for the first two weeks and then 20mg for 3 months, is that a lot for

someone w/ mild(what i call) issues? I'm scared of it's effects, withdrawals,

etc.I think I can control it w/ my attitude on my

own. Maybe I'm wrong. What about counsling? If you start Lexapro, do people stay

on it their whole life?Please help.

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I asked my primary phys. if he had any suggestions of

a psych. and he recommended some on that many of his

patients used. You can start there. If you go to

church you can try your Pastor for suggestions. Maybe

your local health dept. Maybe Webmd has a site of

counselors/psychs. in your area.

ak

--- buckeyes81973 <buckeyes81973@...> wrote:

> Thanks. I'm going to try the counseling as well.

>

> Who would you see for this?

>

>

> >

> > > My name is Doug, I have had " heavy head "

> feelings

> > > for the past 4-5

> > > years, and Doc.'s chalked it up to not sleeping

> > > well. I just lived w/

> > > it.

> > >

> > > I had one of these sensations while giving a

> > > presentation, resulted in

> > > a panic attack. This was 9 months ago and

> continue

> > > w/ problems.

> > > Doc.'s want me to take Lexapro. 10mg for the

> first

> > > two weeks and then

> > > 20mg for 3 months, is that a lot for someone w/

> > > mild(what i call)

> > > issues? I'm scared of it's effects,

> withdrawals,

> > > etc.

> > >

> > > I think I can control it w/ my attitude on my

> own.

> > > Maybe I'm wrong.

> > > What about counsling? If you start Lexapro, do

> > > people stay on it their

> > > whole life?

> > >

> > > Please help.

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

>

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please be carefull when taking otc drugs. the

interactions could be deadly. check with your

pharmacist first to make sure the mix is safe.

ak

--- Doug Doug <buckeyes81973@...> wrote:

> I have decent control over the diabetes. Always

> could be better, but my theory is I have to live

> life as well.

>

> I took an over the counter sleep aid last night.

> Half a dose - whipped my butt. Wife said I didn't

> move all night long when I usually toss and turn.

> She had to check to see if I was breathing...lol.

> Anyway - feel a little better today. I'll take

> again tonight to see how it goes.

>

> Thanks for you help!

>

> Doug

>

> Barbara <bjarrett@...> wrote:

> I'm assuming you've got good control over your

> diabetes?

>

> I don't understand GP's. They can be so stupid

> sometimes. The sleep issues need to be addressed

> first. As you stated, you were fine when you were

> getting adequate sleep. That should be the lightbulb

> over the docs head. It seems at this point that it

> would be easy to DX. Why they want to throw these

> kinds of drugs at it without dealing with a basic

> sleep issue first is beyond me.

>

> Barbara

>

>

> Help

> > >

> > >

> > > My name is Doug, I have had " heavy head "

> feelings for the

> past 4-

> > 5

> > > years, and Doc.'s chalked it up to not sleeping

> well. I just

>

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Hmmm. The pressure/fullness could be. People report lottsa different physical

symptoms when it comes to anxiety and depression. I have that problem and I

think mine is directly related to medication. I use Mucinex to keep it under

control. I have sinusitis, rhinitis and all kinds of other -itises so that is a

main contributor to my stuffy ear symptoms.

Barbara

Help

My name is Doug, I have had " heavy head " feelings for the past 4-5

years, and Doc.'s chalked it up to not sleeping well. I just lived w/

it.

I had one of these sensations while giving a presentation, resulted in

a panic attack. This was 9 months ago and continue w/ problems.

Doc.'s want me to take Lexapro. 10mg for the first two weeks and then

20mg for 3 months, is that a lot for someone w/ mild(what i call)

issues? I'm scared of it's effects, withdrawals, etc.

I think I can control it w/ my attitude on my own. Maybe I'm wrong.

What about counsling? If you start Lexapro, do people stay on it their

whole life?

Please help.

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It skews my perceptions of things around me as well as my own perception of

self. It's horrible! I hate feeling like that. :-(

Barbara

Help

My name is Doug, I have had " heavy head " feelings for the past 4-5

years, and Doc.'s chalked it up to not sleeping well. I just lived w/

it.

I had one of these sensations while giving a presentation, resulted in

a panic attack. This was 9 months ago and continue w/ problems.

Doc.'s want me to take Lexapro. 10mg for the first two weeks and then

20mg for 3 months, is that a lot for someone w/ mild(what i call)

issues? I'm scared of it's effects, withdrawals, etc.

I think I can control it w/ my attitude on my own. Maybe I'm wrong.

What about counsling? If you start Lexapro, do people stay on it their

whole life?

Please help.

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Lexapro is also prescribed for anxiety. I've been on Lex for a8 months and it

has changed my life for the better....better than ever !!! Sue CFrom: karenr1071 [mailto:

karenr1071@...]Lexapro@...: Tue, 16 Jan 2007 22:46:54

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Hi everyone!I have been real stressed out lately and went to the doctor she

perscribed lexapro. I am not depressed. I was hopeing to get xanax to help me

with the stress. I am not sure about this lexapro. I would like some

input.tham=nks , karen

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I found yoga really helps me relax my band(stomach?) when I get stressed and

can't eat. It teaches you how to relax so you can use it any time. since you

are already exercising why not include yoga. they have many types including

relaxation yoga. It makes you in touch with your body and able to control stress

when it works on your body.

carol

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SmarterBansters,

I need help,

As many of you know, I had a very slow start (I think it was because of my low

BMI) and then did not get the fill right away as they suggested, and then went

to the second one, I was terrorized for the idea of being too tight, so asked

the doctor to put just a little, only to come back in 4 weeks for more. Then Dr.

Kuri got me in November and put the 2.4 cc which I am at now.

Due to family issues, I was so stress out that the band felt tight and the

Holidays and financial situations that I PB a lot, I though I was tight and was

scare and ate liquid, soft, mushy, type including high calories. I gained over

the Holidays 3 pounds and then lost it in January.

Well, family left and now I am still the same weigh I was before the fill in

November. My stress level is down and I can see that at times I can eat more

than 1 cup of solids.

I started working out 4 to 5 times a week ( 2 x 1 hour step classes and 2 x 40

min treadmill) for the last 3 weeks and I am still the same weighs.

In conclusion with ups and downs it has been 6 months since I can't break the

200sh.

I started to drink 1 gallon of water a day , 2 weeks since I drink that ( I am

very lucky to have a bathroom close to my office). I consume anywheres from 1000

to 1500 cal and get most proteins.

I have 2 glasses of wine wine only on Sat or and Sun those are the only days of

the week.

I read the band rules over and over and I am following the rules. I got the band

foods and I am following it.

Last nite, I set up a trainer to start with weighs 2 times a week and he said no

breads or crackers after 4 PM, which is ok with me cause I can't eat bread

anyhow...

I had done lots of improvement es since January with water and exercise, what

else I have to do to break this weigh and go on losing? Do I need more fill?

I appreciated your input.

Lidia

4/20/06

225/203/150

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i had a real problem with my band have never talked about it

before... i counldn't eat anything hardly then went to mexico, took

some out, went back put some in, went back took it all out and never

went back. don't know if i should try it again or take it out, it

suckd because i thought it was going to help me and i could finanly

be the real me, comfortable at a reasonable weight, i cut everything

small ate teeny tiny bites nothing stated down and it sucks driving

into mexico??? your not alone

ttims

12/15/2006

178/175/130

cr.

>

> SmarterBansters,

>

> I need help,

>

> As many of you know, I had a very slow start (I think it was

because of my low BMI) and then did not get the fill right away as

they suggested, and then went to the second one, I was terrorized

for the idea of being too tight, so asked the doctor to put just a

little, only to come back in 4 weeks for more. Then Dr. Kuri got me

in November and put the 2.4 cc which I am at now.

>

> Due to family issues, I was so stress out that the band felt

tight and the Holidays and financial situations that I PB a lot, I

though I was tight and was scare and ate liquid, soft, mushy, type

including high calories. I gained over the Holidays 3 pounds and then

lost it in January.

> Well, family left and now I am still the same weigh I was before

the fill in November. My stress level is down and I can see that at

times I can eat more than 1 cup of solids.

> I started working out 4 to 5 times a week ( 2 x 1 hour step

classes and 2 x 40 min treadmill) for the last 3 weeks and I am

still the same weighs.

> In conclusion with ups and downs it has been 6 months since I

can't break the 200sh.

> I started to drink 1 gallon of water a day , 2 weeks since I

drink that ( I am very lucky to have a bathroom close to my office).

I consume anywheres from 1000 to 1500 cal and get most proteins.

> I have 2 glasses of wine wine only on Sat or and Sun those are

the only days of the week.

> I read the band rules over and over and I am following the rules.

I got the band foods and I am following it.

>

> Last nite, I set up a trainer to start with weighs 2 times a week

and he said no breads or crackers after 4 PM, which is ok with me

cause I can't eat bread anyhow...

>

> I had done lots of improvement es since January with water and

exercise, what else I have to do to break this weigh and go on

losing? Do I need more fill?

>

> I appreciated your input.

>

> Lidia

> 4/20/06

> 225/203/150

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Get your own web address.

> Have a HUGE year through Small Business.

>

>

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Hi, TT ! welcome! (Do you have afirst name? :-) )

The band is there, ready to help you, if you're ready to work with

it. IMO, if we choose Mexico, we must shoulder a great deal more

responsibility. We really should have pre-arranged a local care

provider, since - as you found out - it is very very difficlut to

have to return to MX on a moment's notice. for this reason, I now

recommend using a MX doc ONLY if there is local care available. The

initial surgery cost may be less for MX, but there is a lot of other

expense that must also be factored in.

Firstly, where do you live? Maybe we can help you find local care.

And who is your doc?

Then, we can work with you on the other issues if you DO want to

start again with your band. There is no problem just leaving it

there, unusued, but you might want to re-dedictae yourself to working

with it and starting to learn the things needed to do well.

We're here to help as best we can!

SAndy r

>

> i had a real problem with my band have never talked about it

> before... i counldn't eat anything hardly then went to mexico, took

> some out, went back put some in, went back took it all out and

never

> went back. don't know if i should try it again or take it out, it

> suckd because i thought it was going to help me and i could finanly

> be the real me, comfortable at a reasonable weight, i cut

everything

> small ate teeny tiny bites nothing stated down and it sucks driving

> into mexico??? your not alone

> ttims

> 12/15/2006

> 178/175/130

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Hi Sheri,

Welcome to the group. Ultimately no one can do this

for you.. you have to take the steps and take actions

for yourself. However, I can see if I can give you

some encouragement, since I can relate a lot to what

you say, and have managed to turn my life around a

lot, and see what worked for me.

There would be too much to go over in email, so if you

like send me your phone number privately and I will

call you up. Also please provide your time zone and

good times to call.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

380/242/150

--- sheri <Sheriducky@...> wrote:

> hi, i'm ri,

> i'm 5'2, 285 lbs. and i pretty much live in a

> recliner chair now.

> i hope someday i can start eating healthy and losing

> some weight.

> currently the way i'm eating is *extremely*

> unhealthy (99% fast

> food), and i am getting fatter and fatter, and

> sicker and sicker as

> each day goes by. but i'm just so depressed and

> hurting so much

> emotionally right now that i just really don't

> care.. i just can't

> even think about trying to do something like that

> right now when i'm

> in so much pain. :( right now i eat to try to ease

> this pain. i

> keep hoping i can find some help and some support.

> right now i just

> need a friend.. someone to help me up out of this.

> really, i'd just

> rather be dead than go through this horrible

> emotional pain

> everyday.

> i keep trying to find a group with some strong

> christian women that

> have maybe been through some of the same things i'm

> going through, in

> hopes that maybe someone can help me. i don't have

> any female

> friends, real-life or on the internet, and i just

> don't know where to

> turn, and i am desperate.

> is there anyone here that can help me?

>

>

>

>

>

>

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There would be too much to go over in email, so if youlike send me your phone number privately and I willcall you up. Also please provide your time zone andgood times to call.

Same offer here. I do not get charged for long distance so if you need someone to call and encourage you feel free to forward.

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Sheri, hon....

You have a whole group of tons of women here to help you, just let us know day by day how you are feeling and what we can help with.

But, first you also have to decide to do this for yourself. Ditch *most* of the fast food, start drinking water and journaling and doing some form of exercise. If it is too painful for now, get 's Sit Tight program, or on the PBS channel is Sit and be Fit. If you can walk at all reasonably comfortably, just get up and slowly start adding more exercise.

Hey, I would recommend reading the book Body Clutter to help you get through the why of why you are holding on to this.

Hugs and good luck. It can be done, we have gals bigger than you. I started at 310 (5'8") and just keep challenging myself to move forward and downward on the scale.

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>> Hi Sheri,

Welcome to the group.

thanks :)

>> Ultimately no one can do this

for you.. you have to take the steps and take actions

for yourself. However, I can see if I can give you

some encouragement, since I can relate a lot to what

you say, and have managed to turn my life around a

lot, and see what worked for me.

thanks.

the problem is this depression and horrible emotional

pain that keeps me from even being able to function

most of the time. that's why it takes me so long to

reply to people online sometimes.

sometimes i can't eat at all because i am so nauseous

and sick to my stomach because i am so emotionally

distraught, and other times i need to eat just to ease

the pain, and i just eat whatever feels good at the

time.

i just can't force myself to eat healthy and exercise

when i am crying and hurting so much emotionally, just

trying to get through each day is so hard, i just have

to try to get through one minute at a time.

at times i am able to block out alot of the pain so i

can function, or i don't know how i would even survive..

also, not having a kitchen other than a refrigerator

and a toaster is also a problem.

and living in a small, stressful, chaotic,

over-crowded house filled with people and their stuff

makes it next to impossible to even get around. with

a yard that is very uneven and the neighborhood

streets are too hilly for me to walk to or from the

house. and have alot of trouble getting a ride when

i'm feeling up to it. so i'm stuck in a hot room just

sitting in my chair 99% of the time.

>> There would be too much to go over in email, so if you like send

me your phone number privately and I will call you up. Also please

provide your time zone and good times to call.

you don't know how much i have wanted a female friend i could

actually talk to, irl or on the phone. i have wanted and needed that

for so long..

the thing is i am really really really shy, and i probably would end

up not being able to say much until i got to know you and trust you

better.

also, i don't have anywhere private i could talk, there are 8 people

in this house and i couldn't talk about any of this stuff where they

could hear me. i used to have a cell phone, but that got taken away

from me when a friend that was paying for it wasn't able to pay for

it anymore.

it would be so nice if i had someone i could talk to that i could

trust and was understanding of my problems. : /

i just have a difficult time concentrating well enough, through all

the depression, emotional pain and chaos, to express how i feel.

>> Luv,

Debby

San , CA

380/242/150

wow, you've sure lost alot of weight, that's cool.

thanks so much for replying.

i'm in san diego btw.

ri

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>> Hi Sheri,

Welcome to the group.

thanks :)

>> Ultimately no one can do this

for you.. you have to take the steps and take actions

for yourself. However, I can see if I can give you

some encouragement, since I can relate a lot to what

you say, and have managed to turn my life around a

lot, and see what worked for me.

thanks.

the problem is this depression and horrible emotional

pain that keeps me from even being able to function

most of the time. that's why it takes me so long to

reply to people online sometimes.

sometimes i can't eat at all because i am so nauseous

and sick to my stomach because i am so emotionally

distraught, and other times i need to eat just to ease

the pain, and i just eat whatever feels good at the

time.

i just can't force myself to eat healthy and exercise

when i am crying and hurting so much emotionally, just

trying to get through each day is so hard, i just have

to try to get through one minute at a time.

at times i am able to block out alot of the pain so i

can function, or i don't know how i would even survive..

also, not having a kitchen other than a refrigerator

and a toaster is also a problem.

and living in a small, stressful, chaotic,

over-crowded house filled with people and their stuff

makes it next to impossible to even get around. with

a yard that is very uneven and the neighborhood

streets are too hilly for me to walk to or from the

house. and have alot of trouble getting a ride when

i'm feeling up to it. so i'm stuck in a hot room just

sitting in my chair 99% of the time.

>> There would be too much to go over in email, so if you like send

me your phone number privately and I will call you up. Also please

provide your time zone and good times to call.

you don't know how much i have wanted a female friend i could

actually talk to, irl or on the phone. i have wanted and needed that

for so long..

the thing is i am really really really shy, and i probably would end

up not being able to say much until i got to know you and trust you

better.

also, i don't have anywhere private i could talk, there are 8 people

in this house and i couldn't talk about any of this stuff where they

could hear me. i used to have a cell phone, but that got taken away

from me when a friend that was paying for it wasn't able to pay for

it anymore.

it would be so nice if i had someone i could talk to that i could

trust and was understanding of my problems. : /

i just have a difficult time concentrating well enough, through all

the depression, emotional pain and chaos, to express how i feel.

>> Luv,

Debby

San , CA

380/242/150

wow, you've sure lost alot of weight, that's cool.

thanks so much for replying.

i'm in san diego btw.

ri

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> There would be too much to go over in email, so if you

> like send me your phone number privately and I will

> call you up. Also please provide your time zone and

> good times to call.

<< Same offer here. I do not get charged for long distance so if you

need someone to call and encourage you feel free to forward.

thanks. but like i said in reply to debby--

you don't know how much i have wanted a female friend i could

actually talk to, irl or on the phone. i have wanted and needed that

for so long.. the thing is i am really really really shy, and i

probably would end up not being able to say much until i got to know

you and trust you better.

also, i don't have anywhere private i could talk, there are 8 people

in this house and i couldn't talk about any of this stuff where they

could hear me.

i used to have a cell phone, but that got taken away from me when a

friend that was paying for it wasn't able to pay for it anymore.

it would be so nice if i had someone i could talk to that i could

trust and was understanding of my problems. : /

i just have a difficult time concentrating well enough, through all

the depression, emotional pain and chaos, to express how i feel.

i really wish i could.. : /

and thank you so much for your reply.

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>> Sheri, hon....

You have a whole group of tons of women here to help you, just let

us know day by day how you are feeling and what we can help with.

thanks. :)

>> But, first you also have to decide to do this for yourself.

Ditch *most* of the fast food, start drinking water and journaling

and doing some form of exercise. If it is too painful for now, get

's Sit Tight program, or on the PBS channel is Sit and be

Fit. If you can walk at all reasonably comfortably, just get up and

slowly start adding more exercise.

thanks.

the problem is this depression and horrible emotional pain that keeps

me from even being able to function most of the time. that's why it

takes me so long to reply to people online sometimes. sometimes i

can't eat at all because i am so nauseous and sick to my stomach

because i am so emotionally distraught, and other times i need to eat

just to ease the pain, and i just eat whatever feels good at the

time.

i just can't force myself to eat healthy and exercise when i am in so

much emotional pain, crying and hurting so much. just trying to get

through each day is so hard, i just have to try to get through one

minute at a time. at times i am able to block out alot of the pain

so i can function, or i don't know how i would even survive.

also, not having a kitchen other than a refrigerator and a toaster is

also a problem. and living in a small, stressful, chaotic, over-

crowded house filled with people and their stuff makes it next to

impossible to even get around. with a yard that is very uneven and

the neighborhood streets are too hilly for me to walk to or from the

house. and have alot of trouble getting a ride when i'm feeling up to

it. so i'm stuck in a hot room just sitting in my chair 99% of the

time.

>> Hey, I would recommend reading the book Body Clutter to help you

get through the why of why you are holding on to this.

ok. well, it's hard for me to concentrate to read

much, but i'll try to get it from the library. i wish it came as an

audio book.

>> Hugs and good luck. It can be done, we have gals bigger than

you. I started at 310 (5'8 " ) and just keep challenging myself to

move forward and downward on the scale.

thanks, *hugs*. oh, i know i'm no were near being the biggest, but

at this rate i'm headed down that path. : /

and thanks so much for you're reply.

ri

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--- sheri <Sheriducky@...> wrote:

> thanks.

> the problem is this depression and horrible

> emotional

> pain that keeps me from even being able to function

> most of the time. that's why it takes me so long to

> reply to people online sometimes.

I understand totally. The problems are like a

snowball rolling downhill.. they just get bigger and

bigger and more overwhelming. Stopping that momentum

can be SOOO difficult! But if you don't stop now it's

not going to get any easier!

Many of these things I had to deal with when I hit my

bottom at 380 pounds. I had probably one of the worst

births with my son imagineable, with botched

epidurals, a week in chemical labor and then a week

recovering from a vertical c-section.

After going through that, I thought I was as close to

death at my age of 33 that I ever want to be. I

couldn't carry my 8 pound son from the living room to

the back of the house to change his diaper.. just the

additional 8 pounds was too much for my back. Like

you I was in a chair most of the time. If you don't

believe me, look at me in this " before " photo (I spent

a lot of time in this large chair!):

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/images/hunter15.jpg

And now look at me in this photo:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/lowcarb/debbylwtd.jpg

There is nothing special about me.. I'm not immune to

food. I *want* to be able to eat what I want, I

*don't* want to have to exercise. The big difference,

and perhaps the biggest epiphany I had of all, is that

it doesn't matter what I *want* from moment to moment,

it matters what I DO. Do I wish it wasn't hard? Hell

yes! Do I wish I could eat ice cream? Yes! Do I let

those things stop me? No! Actions produce results..

I can sit here and lament about what I *want* until

the cows come home.. reality is that I can't eat those

things and be healthy.

I refuse to delude myself, lie to myself, that I can

handle those foods and have anything else I *want* in

life. It is an either/or.. literally I can't have my

cake and eat it too. Either I can have the ability to

walk without pain, wear cute clothes, be able to

inspire people, (oh God this is a miracle) and play

and run with my son at the park, or I can have ice

cream! I choose the rest of my life!

Because the biggest epiphany I had is that nothing in

my life would come, nothing mattered, unless I took

care of my health. I couldn't be a good parent,

worker, wife, or even a person because I was too busy

slowly commiting suicide with food.. because I wanted

to eat ice cream.

And when I looked back I realized that all of the

things I wanted food to do for me, they never did

them! They never comforted me, or at least for more

than a few minutes.. I could never enjoy them. I was

always too busy feeling disgusted with myself and

guilty, because I knew what I was doing! Even if I

managed to numb myself for a few minutes during a

binge, following that would be hours, days, weeks of

lamenting.. hardly worth it!

I realized that I wanted a life without pain, more

than I wanted to ever eat ice cream again. I wanted

to walk more than I wanted cookies. And every time I

emotionally or physically want cookies, I remember

that the cost for eating those is pain. I don't know

about you but I'm a wimp about pain.

When I hear about people that live their lives with

migraines regularly or chronic back pain, my heart

goes out to them.. I don't know how they go on. But I

know that I will do what ever I can to avoid that

pain. If you think things can't get worse, believe me

they can.

Your suffering can get worse with this weight, to the

point where you will need a machine to breath, to

where just sitting hurts your back, to where you can't

do anything because there's so much pain. You've

given up living your life because why? Because food

has done so much to make you happy right?

When people tell me I *can't* stop eating <insert

unhealthy food here> I tell them you can and you would

if you hit bottom - if you truly saw the cost of

making that choice. If you had a heart attack

tomorrow, and you had to face your mortality, you'd

probably be able to give up <insert unhealthy food

here> without much thought.

Don't let yourself get to the point where there is no

return.. don't let yourself get to the point where you

have hit your bottom like I did.. turn it around now..

because I promise you that nothing tastes as good as

being able to live LIFE.. to be able to walk, get out

of your chair.. it's better than a million cookies!

> sometimes i can't eat at all because i am so

> nauseous

> and sick to my stomach because i am so emotionally

> distraught, and other times i need to eat just to

> ease

> the pain, and i just eat whatever feels good at the

> time.

As I said above.. the food will not ease the pain..

only you can do that - you do that by consistently

making good choices. When you make good choices, you

take care of yourself, you feel better about yourself,

and then the momentum starts swinging the other

direction. Take the first teeny tiny baby step.. give

yourself a big pat on the back, and when you are ready

take another.

> to try to get through one minute at a time.

> at times i am able to block out alot of the pain so

> i

> can function, or i don't know how i would even

> survive..

That's all you can do at any time.. is live in the

present.. the present is a gift.. live into a future

that you create.. you do have the power within you, I

know you do.

> also, not having a kitchen other than a refrigerator

> and a toaster is also a problem.

> and living in a small, stressful, chaotic,

> over-crowded house filled with people and their

> stuff

> makes it next to impossible to even get around.

Listen, your situation is challenging, no doubt, but

you CAN make it work. I had a similar situation.. I

could barely manage going to the grocery store, let

alone standing long enough to cook healthy foods! So

for the first two months I would send my hubby to the

store, he would buy me a stack of healthier low carb

microwave dinners, and that is what I would eat. I

ate a lot of them, as my appetite was big, and

microwaved food isn't that great.. but it got the

momentum going *just* enough so I could stand long

enough to make some fresh foods.

After a year of *just* working on cleaning up my diet,

I had lost 15 pounds, which isn't much but more

importantly my joints weren't hurting as bad, and I

was able to start exercising VERY slowly. Many times

only 2 minutes at a time! You get your food somehow

right? Say you are eating fast food, or getting

deliveries.. order something healthier! Get a

healthier microwave meal. Because if you take that

very tiny step along that path, and put another baby

step in front of you, it doesn't matter how far you

have to go.. you'll never get there if you don't

START!

> with

> a yard that is very uneven and the neighborhood

> streets are too hilly for me to walk to or from the

> house. and have alot of trouble getting a ride when

> i'm feeling up to it. so i'm stuck in a hot room

> just

> sitting in my chair 99% of the time.

Even in your chair you can do something. There are

over eaters anonymous phone numbers you can call for a

telephone meeting. There are exercises you can do in

your chair. You can talk to me. :) Like I said I

know it's challenging but it's not going to get

easier. How much more difficult are you going to let

it get?

> you don't know how much i have wanted a female

> friend i could

> actually talk to, irl or on the phone. i have

> wanted and needed that

> for so long..

> the thing is i am really really really shy, and i

> probably would end

> up not being able to say much until i got to know

> you and trust you better.

LOL.. don't worry about that. Anyone who knows me

knows that you'd be lucky to get a word in edgewise

anyway.. so just you listening is enough. :)

> also, i don't have anywhere private i could talk,

> there are 8 people

> in this house and i couldn't talk about any of this

> stuff where they

> could hear me.

So let them listen! Who cares what they think? Do

you think they don't know you have a problem with your

weight? They might admire that you are actually

trying to work on it. Besides if you talk to me you

won't be saying much to me but " uh-huh " anyway. I

talk *that* much! :) But I have a lot of good stuff

to say so people forgive me that listening isn't my

strong suit. :)

> wow, you've sure lost alot of weight, that's cool.

> thanks so much for replying.

You're welcome. There's nothing I have done that

anyone else couldn't do.. I am *not* special.. it's

just a choice.. it's just a matter of really figuring

out what you value in life (and what ever it is to get

you to that point).. the taste and pleasure of food,

or all of the things you have to give up to continue

your love affair with food.. when food almost killed

me.. I realized the love was one-sided and found

another relationship.. with myself.

You are still in there.. lost behind what your

relationship with food has done to you.. you are a

good person who deserves so much more. If you had a

friend who was in a relationship with someone who beat

them, you'd tell them to leave right?

But yet many of us have this same relationship with

(unhealthy) food and yet we never leave it.. we

welcome it with open arms because it whispers

platitudes in our ears of how good it will taste, the

pleasures of the moment.. but how long before it's

back to beating you down.. like the abusive spouse?

How often does it really make you feel good.. when

does it really make you feel better? Thing about it..

Change your relationship with food.. and change your

life.... put it back in it's place of sustenance only

... only healthy foods are foods you value because they

value you.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

380/242/170

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Serenity is not freedom from the storm, but peace amid the storm.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

Heal yourself with nutrition: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com

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Hi Toni,

This normal, just think of it as liquid fat let it drain and be

gone. You are suppose to let it heal from the inside out, so no

more neosporin. Just keep it clean with soap and water, important

to let it heal from the inside out. Gauze will help if you are out

and about and don't want to mess up clothing. Just my thoughts.

Hang in there you are doing great. Keep us posted.

Deb

>

> I hope this has happened to someone and you can tell me its normal

> I was banded on May 28, 2007. Last night my port site looked

infected

> under the tape that was put on at surgery. So I took off the tape

and

> and the damn broke. I wasn't blood but it was a blood tinged

liquid.

> It ran and ran for probley 10 minutes. I really was getting light

> headed. It finally stopped so I put neosporin and a bandaid on it

and

> went to bed. During the night I got up and it had bled again all

over

> my closes and the bed. I am not sure what to call the liquid. It

is

> not full blood. It isn't pus either. Not sure what to do. My

doctor

> is out of town and my insurance won't cover the an emergency

room. Has

> this happened to anyone else. Oh by the way this morning it

appears

> really good. No infection or anything.

> I havn't lost any weight either since Monday, a little discourged.

> Thanks Toni

>

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Toni,

This is totally normal. The "machine" that they use to place the port is VERY hot. It melts the fat around the area and yours is coming out now. I can't imagine this happening but Yolanda explained the day after surgery that it is totally normal and to use gauze. Remember to be cleaning those incisions with antibacterial soap and no more neosporen, you could keep it from coming out - we don't want that :)

Take care and keep us updated on how you are doing. Try to focus on healing right now, not weight loss. "Easier said than done huh?" :)

Cyrena www.mylapbandjourney.com

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DOB: 1/19/07

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I hope this has happened to someone and you can tell me its normalI was banded on May 28, 2007. Last night my port site looked infected under the tape that was put on at surgery. So I took off the tape and and the damn broke. I wasn't blood but it was a blood tinged liquid. It ran and ran for probley 10 minutes. I really was getting light headed. It finally stopped so I put neosporin and a bandaid on it and went to bed. During the night I got up and it had bled again all over my closes and the bed. I am not sure what to call the liquid. It is not full blood. It isn't pus either. Not sure what to do. My doctor is out of town and my insurance won't cover the an emergency room. Has this happened to anyone else. Oh by the way this morning it appears really good. No infection or anything. I havn't lost any weight either since Monday, a little discourged.Thanks Toni

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It's normal. If you look on your paperwork it explains it in detail. Your fat is reacting to the port and your fat is melting. Think of it as a freebie weight loss of an ounce or two. ;o) Keep gauze on it to absorb the material, keep it clean, use antibacterial soap daily and wash well.

On 6/9/07, Toni <tonikjohnson@...> wrote:

I hope this has happened to someone and you can tell me its normalI was banded on May 28, 2007. Last night my port site looked infected under the tape that was put on at surgery. So I took off the tape and

and the damn broke. I wasn't blood but it was a blood tinged liquid. It ran and ran for probley 10 minutes. I really was getting light headed. It finally stopped so I put neosporin and a bandaid on it and

went to bed. During the night I got up and it had bled again all over my closes and the bed. I am not sure what to call the liquid. It is not full blood. It isn't pus either. Not sure what to do. My doctor

is out of town and my insurance won't cover the an emergency room. Has this happened to anyone else. Oh by the way this morning it appears really good. No infection or anything. I havn't lost any weight either since Monday, a little discourged.

Thanks Toni

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Cyrena...

The equipment isn't hot at all, matter of fact two docs are holding all four trocars with rubber gloved hands the whole time. The 5th trocar is held with a stand only to keep it still, it's the one that maintains constant gas in the abdomen. The melting fat is the port reacting to the fat and the fat responds by melting.

Don't you wish we could have something in there to melt it alllllllllll?????? LOL!!

On 6/9/07, Cyrena Weeks <cyrenaweeks@...> wrote:

Toni,

This is totally normal. The " machine " that they use to place the port is VERY hot. It melts the fat around the area and yours is coming out now. I can't imagine this happening but Yolanda explained the day after surgery that it is totally normal and to use gauze. Remember to be cleaning those incisions with antibacterial soap and no more neosporen, you could keep it from coming out - we don't want that :)

Take care and keep us updated on how you are doing. Try to focus on healing right now, not weight loss. " Easier said than done huh? " :)

Cyrena www.mylapbandjourney.com

(240) 230/181/150

DOB: 1/19/07

Help

I hope this has happened to someone and you can tell me its normalI was banded on May 28, 2007. Last night my port site looked infected under the tape that was put on at surgery. So I took off the tape and

and the damn broke. I wasn't blood but it was a blood tinged liquid. It ran and ran for probley 10 minutes. I really was getting light headed. It finally stopped so I put neosporin and a bandaid on it and

went to bed. During the night I got up and it had bled again all over my closes and the bed. I am not sure what to call the liquid. It is not full blood. It isn't pus either. Not sure what to do. My doctor

is out of town and my insurance won't cover the an emergency room. Has this happened to anyone else. Oh by the way this morning it appears really good. No infection or anything. I havn't lost any weight either since Monday, a little discourged.

Thanks Toni

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I have read through my paper work but have missed that part. I read it again.

Toni

Re: Help

It's normal. If you look on your paperwork it explains it in detail. Your fat is reacting to the port and your fat is melting. Think of it as a freebie weight loss of an ounce or two. ;o) Keep gauze on it to absorb the material, keep it clean, use antibacterial soap daily and wash well.

On 6/9/07, Toni <tonikjohnson> wrote:

I hope this has happened to someone and you can tell me its normalI was banded on May 28, 2007. Last night my port site looked infected under the tape that was put on at surgery. So I took off the tape and and the damn broke. I wasn't blood but it was a blood tinged liquid. It ran and ran for probley 10 minutes. I really was getting light headed. It finally stopped so I put neosporin and a bandaid on it and went to bed. During the night I got up and it had bled again all over my closes and the bed. I am not sure what to call the liquid. It is not full blood. It isn't pus either. Not sure what to do. My doctor is out of town and my insurance won't cover the an emergency room. Has this happened to anyone else. Oh by the way this morning it appears really good. No infection or anything. I havn't lost any weight either since Monday, a little discourged. Thanks Toni

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