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In a message dated 1/23/2004 8:28:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,

moobabies@... writes:

> I will warn you...during recovery you get out of the

> exercise habit REAL FAST.

NO! NO! NO! It was so hard to get myself here, I don't want to lose the

liking for exercise! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Hugs and blessings, Ann

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In a message dated 1/23/2004 8:28:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,

moobabies@... writes:

> I will warn you...during recovery you get out of the

> exercise habit REAL FAST.

NO! NO! NO! It was so hard to get myself here, I don't want to lose the

liking for exercise! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Hugs and blessings, Ann

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In a message dated 1/23/2004 8:28:18 PM Pacific Standard Time,

moobabies@... writes:

> I will warn you...during recovery you get out of the

> exercise habit REAL FAST.

NO! NO! NO! It was so hard to get myself here, I don't want to lose the

liking for exercise! Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

Hugs and blessings, Ann

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> HI Jo

>

> I was thinking, How did you know I moved?

> Inquiring minds want to know.

>

> God Bless

> Tonnie

=================================

I heard it from YOU! You said you were moving to a single story

house because the stairs were taking it's toll. Then I didn't hear

from you again until now.

Hugs

Jo

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> HI Jo

>

> I was thinking, How did you know I moved?

> Inquiring minds want to know.

>

> God Bless

> Tonnie

=================================

I heard it from YOU! You said you were moving to a single story

house because the stairs were taking it's toll. Then I didn't hear

from you again until now.

Hugs

Jo

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> Betcha ya don't know how much I love you..lol

> Thank you

> God bless and have a great day and kiss one of those babies for me

> on the wet cold nose...YOu do raise calfs right??LOL

> Pat

She raises grandchildren, Pat, you should know that! Remember,they

shuffle calves, raise kids.

Marta

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> Betcha ya don't know how much I love you..lol

> Thank you

> God bless and have a great day and kiss one of those babies for me

> on the wet cold nose...YOu do raise calfs right??LOL

> Pat

She raises grandchildren, Pat, you should know that! Remember,they

shuffle calves, raise kids.

Marta

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> Betcha ya don't know how much I love you..lol

> Thank you

> God bless and have a great day and kiss one of those babies for me

> on the wet cold nose...YOu do raise calfs right??LOL

> Pat

Have you seen those little buggars stick their tongues up their

noses? I used to live by a dairy (yes, in Oildale) as a kid. And

it always amazed me that they could stick their tongues clear up

their noses.

I guess all little kids are the same whether they are animals or

children

Sharon in Onyx

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> Betcha ya don't know how much I love you..lol

> Thank you

> God bless and have a great day and kiss one of those babies for me

> on the wet cold nose...YOu do raise calfs right??LOL

> Pat

Have you seen those little buggars stick their tongues up their

noses? I used to live by a dairy (yes, in Oildale) as a kid. And

it always amazed me that they could stick their tongues clear up

their noses.

I guess all little kids are the same whether they are animals or

children

Sharon in Onyx

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Oops

guess I forgot. I forget a lot of things these days lol.

God Bless

Tonnie

I heard it from YOU!  You said you were moving to a single story

house because the stairs were taking it's toll.  Then I didn't hear

from you again until now.

Hugs

Jo

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> hi jo- you said you had a tt right? did you have a hernia too?

>

> vicki

=============================

I did have one but it was tiny (size like a quarter)and had no Idea

I had it before the TT. The surgeon told me it was there after I

woke up. Actually the kind could have been more dangerous..if the

bowel would have poked it head through and got stuck it could have

strangulated and set up an emergency situation. In hindsight I now

know the " pinching " pains I would occasionally get were the hernia

poking through.

So Yes I had one...but didn't know it. The surgeon said my ab

muscles were in real good shape and he " had to do very little muscle

repair " . I don't know if that is why I didn't get a big

one...because I did " lift " things all the time and deserved one.

Jo

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> > hi jo- you said you had a tt right? did you have a hernia too?

> >

> > vicki

>

> =============================

> I did have one but it was tiny (size like a quarter)and had no

Idea

> I had it before the TT. The surgeon told me it was there after I

> woke up. Actually the kind could have been more dangerous..if the

> bowel would have poked it head through and got stuck it could have

> strangulated and set up an emergency situation. In hindsight I

now

> know the " pinching " pains I would occasionally get were the hernia

> poking through.

>

> So Yes I had one...but didn't know it. The surgeon said my ab

> muscles were in real good shape and he " had to do very little

muscle

> repair " . I don't know if that is why I didn't get a big

> one...because I did " lift " things all the time and deserved one.

>

> Jo

********************************

so what would have happened if you didnt have a tt? Dr Z said i wont

need one so thats why im asking. what if there is a hernia that he

cant feel? when i was there last time, he had me push so he could

feel for one.

vicki

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> > hi jo- you said you had a tt right? did you have a hernia too?

> >

> > vicki

>

> =============================

> I did have one but it was tiny (size like a quarter)and had no

Idea

> I had it before the TT. The surgeon told me it was there after I

> woke up. Actually the kind could have been more dangerous..if the

> bowel would have poked it head through and got stuck it could have

> strangulated and set up an emergency situation. In hindsight I

now

> know the " pinching " pains I would occasionally get were the hernia

> poking through.

>

> So Yes I had one...but didn't know it. The surgeon said my ab

> muscles were in real good shape and he " had to do very little

muscle

> repair " . I don't know if that is why I didn't get a big

> one...because I did " lift " things all the time and deserved one.

>

> Jo

**********************************8

btw- where were the pinching pains? were they noticable. i dont

think i know anyone who hasnt gotten a hernia. hair loss too- i

havent lost my hair yet but im waitin.

vicki

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In a message dated 2/1/2004 11:43:52 PM Central Standard Time,

moobabies@... writes:

Vicki...as long as your following Doctors orders now and doing what

your supposed to, like eating protein, taking vitamins and so

on.......don't borrow trouble.....cross bridges when you come to

them.

JO

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Vicki,

Just do things normally and if anything abnormal happens ask about it.

Don't worry about stuff that only happens to a small percentage of pts. Like I

have been told this weekend you can work yourself into a tizzy worrying about

the " what ifs " .

You seem to be having a textbook Ds surgery ....be glad and rejoice and

don't worry...be happy....LOL

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG to RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY to DS revision Dec 2002 -down 118 lbs so far (377.7 to 259.4 and still

going

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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In a message dated 2/1/2004 11:43:52 PM Central Standard Time,

moobabies@... writes:

Vicki...as long as your following Doctors orders now and doing what

your supposed to, like eating protein, taking vitamins and so

on.......don't borrow trouble.....cross bridges when you come to

them.

JO

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

Vicki,

Just do things normally and if anything abnormal happens ask about it.

Don't worry about stuff that only happens to a small percentage of pts. Like I

have been told this weekend you can work yourself into a tizzy worrying about

the " what ifs " .

You seem to be having a textbook Ds surgery ....be glad and rejoice and

don't worry...be happy....LOL

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG to RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY to DS revision Dec 2002 -down 118 lbs so far (377.7 to 259.4 and still

going

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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In a message dated 2/2/2004 12:09:53 AM Central Standard Time,

lghthousegrl@... writes:

vicki

who worries too much

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sometimes it's hard not to worry....That's my problem sometimes too.

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG to RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY to DS revision Dec 2002 -down 118 lbs so far (377.7 to 259.4 and still

going

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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In a message dated 2/2/2004 12:09:53 AM Central Standard Time,

lghthousegrl@... writes:

vicki

who worries too much

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sometimes it's hard not to worry....That's my problem sometimes too.

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG to RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY to DS revision Dec 2002 -down 118 lbs so far (377.7 to 259.4 and still

going

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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In a message dated 2/2/2004 12:13:57 AM Central Standard Time,

lghthousegrl@... writes:

i have had a textbook case. im lucky- just dont want it to be too

good to be true. i dont know anyone who hasnt had a hernia and if i

can avoid another surgery, im going for it

vicki

who hasnt started losing hair either.........hhmm

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well Now you do, because so far(Knock on wood) I don't have a hernia(that

I know of) But my hair did fall out for a while. It started at about month 3.

Scared me when it happened that I'd need a wig...LOL. But it didn't last long

and now it's fine. You might just get lucky and not lose hair. Just make sure

your getting your protein and doing the vitamins it doesn't happen to

everyone, it's just something that is common. They tell you so you don't freak

out

and think your weird or something. If you expect it you don't fear it so much.

Know what I mean?

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG to RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY to DS revision Dec 2002 -down 118 lbs so far (377.7 to 259.4 and still

going

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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In a message dated 1/31/2004 10:42:13 PM Pacific Standard Time,

moobabies@... writes:

> And of course the lovely

> drugs...enjoy!

Yes, the lovely drugs...I do plan to enjoy, as I am already in pain, since I

stopped taking my Vioxx. I want more drugs! LOL

Hugs and blessings, Ann

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> so what would have happened if you didnt have a tt? Dr Z said i

wont

> need one so thats why im asking. what if there is a hernia that he

> cant feel? when i was there last time, he had me push so he could

> feel for one.

>

> vicki

======================

Unless the bowel had become strangulated nothing would have

happened. " IF " the bowel would have become strangulated...I would

have been sick/hurting...tested and sent to surgery. They would

have repaired it when and IF I had problems...or it grew.

Vicki...as long as your following Doctors orders now and doing what

your supposed to, like eating protein, taking vitamins and so

on.......don't borrow trouble.....cross bridges when you come to

them.

JO

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> Scolded by the mama Vicki - :o)

>

> *******************************************

nope....vicki was scolded by mama jo and she needed it

vicki

who worries too much

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> In a message dated 2/1/2004 11:43:52 PM Central Standard Time,

> moobabies@h... writes:

> Vicki...as long as your following Doctors orders now and doing

what

> your supposed to, like eating protein, taking vitamins and so

> on.......don't borrow trouble.....cross bridges when you come to

> them.

>

> JO

> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

> Vicki,

> Just do things normally and if anything abnormal happens ask

about it.

> Don't worry about stuff that only happens to a small percentage of

pts. Like I

> have been told this weekend you can work yourself into a tizzy

****************************

i have had a textbook case. im lucky- just dont want it to be too

good to be true. i dont know anyone who hasnt had a hernia and if i

can avoid another surgery, im going for it

vicki

who hasnt started losing hair either.........hhmm

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> vicki

> who hasnt started losing hair either.........hhmm

=======================

You'll get there...don't worry, wouldn't want you to miss out on

that joy!!! Mine fell out from 4 months to 8 months. But you have

thick hair so try not to panic!!!

Jo

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> Jo, you showed me your tt about 6 weeks post-op (when I was an

> inpatient for the DS). Please post the name, address and phone

number

> of your tt surgeon in LA. Thanks.

Geez I have no shame! lol.

R. Schwartz

Board Certified: American Board of Plastic Surgery

Board Certified: American Board of Surgery

Pacifica Institute of Cosmetic and Reconstructive Surgery

2460 Ponderosa Drive North, Suite A-117

Camarillo, CA 93010

Telephone (805)484-2855

Fax (805) 389-1245

email: md @ pacifica-institute.com (without the spaces)

www.pacifica-institute.com

Jo

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Pat I'm on my way to bed as we speak...well actually I'm on my way

to TV land and hopefully I'll be asleep before 3am. I've just never

ever, ever been able to sleep well. God how I envy people who can

lay down and fall asleep. I have a rule..If I don't sleep for 2

nights on the 3rd night I use drugs! I made that rule after I went

5 days straight without any sleep...6th night I used drugs and slept

3 whole wonderful hours. I could actually Think again.

Hope that fever has broken. You need to be healthy for your surgery

in March.

Hugs

Jo

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