Batteries

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> There are a number of electrosensitives, who do react to batteries.

But do we know what they are reacting to? The battery slowly

discharging? The charge it is currently holding?

Offgassing of chemicals?

(do they react to " dead " batteries?)

Marc

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> I just assumed was talking about people like me, who drain

> batteries.

You know, we once had someone here who felt *better* around batteries...

in fact, this person put a " D " battery on top of their computer monitor

because it made them feel better while using the computer. Cheaper

than an EMF protection device, that's for sure!

Marc

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I have heard that from others.

I myself came in the vicinity of such a person with a meter in my hand, which

was in the off-position.

But when I came as close to 1 meter distance, this person got a red head, as an

allergic reaction.

I do know of other persons who will get complete allergic reactions over their

total body when a visitor comes with a cell phone in his pocket.

Perhaps it is also a reaction to the battery of this cell phone, in stead of the

communications signals to the masts.

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Re: batteries

> There are a number of electrosensitives, who do react to batteries.

But do we know what they are reacting to? The battery slowly

discharging? The charge it is currently holding?

Offgassing of chemicals?

(do they react to " dead " batteries?)

Marc

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My parents have a big battery that stays in the house that they use to power

their electric golf cart - it gives me terrible symptoms and I have to keep

moving it around the house so that it is at one end and I am at the other since

distance from it is the only thing that helps.

 

Steph

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: batteries

Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 17:24

 

> I just assumed was talking about people like me, who drain

> batteries.

You know, we once had someone here who felt *better* around batteries...

in fact, this person put a " D " battery on top of their computer monitor

because it made them feel better while using the computer. Cheaper

than an EMF protection device, that's for sure!

Marc

[Guest guest]

> My parents have a big battery that stays in the house that they use to

> power their electric golf cart - it gives me terrible symptoms and I have

> to keep moving it around the house so that it is at one end and I am at

> the other since distance from it is the only thing that helps.

Does the battery give you the same kind of symptoms that you get from other

EMF sources, or are the symptoms you get from the battery unique?

Marc

[Guest guest]

> I do know of other persons who will get complete allergic reactions over

> their total body when a visitor comes with a cell phone in his pocket.

> Perhaps it is also a reaction to the battery of this cell phone, in stead

> of the communications signals to the masts.

I wonder if this applies to battery-operated wrist-watches as well...

there are a few watches which don't require batteries (manual

winding or self-winding based on body motion). I wonder if an

ES person might react badly to a battery-operated watch but not

to a watch that contains no battery?

Marc

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I have a battery operated mattress pad I would love to use in the winter when

sleeping outdoors but I react to it so can't use it. Loni

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: batteries

Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 10:12 AM

 

> There are a number of electrosensitives, who do react to batteries.

But do we know what they are reacting to? The battery slowly

discharging? The charge it is currently holding?

Offgassing of chemicals?

(do they react to " dead " batteries?)

Marc

[Guest guest]

Yup, I just checked one of mine; it's not tiny (2 AA, with three brightness

modes and strobe, and pretty bright at full power); at medium and high levels it

makes the AM radio screech.  Can't say it's bothered me to use it, but still,

interesting...

R.

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>

> Hi all, thanks to everyone who has had suggestions for and me. Just

> quickly, to clarify her reactions to batteries, that is to any

> battery-operated device, including tiny LED flashlights. She is fine if the

> item is off, but once turned on the tiny magnetic field is enough to give

> her symptoms, even from a good distance away. We have to use candles (found

> one that is MCS safe for her!), and wind up watch. Yes, she has felt tiny

> watch batteries!

>

> best,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Marc - no it is just much the same as my reaction to cell phones etc -

exhaustion, pain, sore throat and glands and migraine/ neualgia type  headache.

 

Steph

From: Marc <marc@...>

Subject: Re: batteries

Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 20:18

 

> My parents have a big battery that stays in the house that they use to

> power their electric golf cart - it gives me terrible symptoms and I have

> to keep moving it around the house so that it is at one end and I am at

> the other since distance from it is the only thing that helps.

Does the battery give you the same kind of symptoms that you get from other

EMF sources, or are the symptoms you get from the battery unique?

Marc

[Guest guest]

No Bill

 

My reaction is independent of it being connected to the charger and plugged in

on charge - I still react to it. With my eyes closed I could tell you whether it

was in the room or not.

 

Steph

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> From: Marc <marc@... <marc%40ufoseries.com>>

> Subject: Re: batteries

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> Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 17:24

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> > I just assumed was talking about people like me, who drain

> > batteries.

>

> You know, we once had someone here who felt *better* around batteries...

> in fact, this person put a " D " battery on top of their computer monitor

> because it made them feel better while using the computer. Cheaper

> than an EMF protection device, that's for sure!

>

> Marc

>

>

[Guest guest]

> Hi Marc - no it is just much the same as my reaction to cell phones etc -

> exhaustion, pain, sore throat and glands and migraine/ neualgia type

> headache.

Okay, thanks for that... with all this talk about batteries, I think

I'm going to try wearing a battery-free (self-winding) watch, rather

than the battery ones I have been wearing.

(and then there's the issue of the " glow-in-the-dark " dials/hands,

which at one time was radioactive... not so sure these days)

Marc

[Guest guest]

Sorry to keep asking questions... I'm just trying to be scientific..

Did you try holding a portable AM radio near the battery, listening for

anything on any frequency on the dial? It's possible there's some kind

of electronic charge controller built in (does it have any little lights on

it?).

If it is the DC electric field affecting you, it should be very easy to

shield that so it would not affect you unless you were very close.

Bill

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:34 PM, <reader41@...> wrote:

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> No Bill

>

> My reaction is independent of it being connected to the charger and plugged

> in on charge - I still react to it. With my eyes closed I could tell you

> whether it was in the room or not.

>

> Steph

>

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> >

> > From: Marc <marc@... <marc%40ufoseries.com> <marc%

> 40ufoseries.com>>

> > Subject: Re: batteries

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> > Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 17:24

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> >

> > > I just assumed was talking about people like me, who drain

> > > batteries.

> >

> > You know, we once had someone here who felt *better* around batteries...

> > in fact, this person put a " D " battery on top of their computer monitor

> > because it made them feel better while using the computer. Cheaper

> > than an EMF protection device, that's for sure!

> >

> > Marc

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Loni,

Yes, lithium is supposed to be the battery type that is most compatible

with the body. However, since fire alarms are not worn on the body, it

probably doesn't matter.

When I was testing fire alarms to put in the new house, 5 years ago, I

found the battery operated types to be more comfortable than the AC

powered ones, probably due to the electrical field. Though they are not

entirely " quiet " like the one in my travel trailer from 1993. Can't get

that model anymore...

Loni wrote:

> I am switching out the electrical Fire alarms for battery operated. Is a life

time lithium power cell ok for EHSers? Loni

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[Guest guest]

As far as I know they are fine.

On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Loni <loni326@...> wrote:

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> I am switching out the electrical Fire alarms for battery operated. Is a

> life time lithium power cell ok for EHSers? Loni

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for your response Bill!  I will get one then!  Loni

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> I am switching out the electrical Fire alarms for battery operated. Is a

> life time lithium power cell ok for EHSers?  Loni

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>

[Guest guest]

Thanks ; good to know! If I disconnet the electrical one & replace with

the battery operated will that still be within code. So what I am asking is if

we had a fire would insurance co accept the battery operated fire alarm?  Just

thinking of all aspects. Loni

> I am switching out the electrical Fire alarms for battery operated. Is a life

time lithium power cell ok for EHSers? Loni

>

>

[Guest guest]

Well, I had an odd observation over Christmas.

As much as I dislike led lights, battery operated or not, I decided to try a

small string of solar powered ones, after noticing some, neighbors had didn't

hurt my eyes as badly as the rest.

It has one NiMH rechargable battery with it. I was really happy with this, as I

felt nothing bad from it, at least not over about 6 " away. While the other

lights are hard to stand for long as I've mentioned.

I didn't get it recharged one day and decided to use an alkaline one in it's

place (not enough sun to do the job right now).

So, I stuck it in and turned it on, and yowie! The dirty electricity from that

thing was strong, almost visible if you would, in comparison to the NiMH one. I

could feel that several feet away and it was totally nasty. After the other was

charged, I put it back in hoping it was still fine, and it was.

I tried the alkaline again just for a test. Same reaction. This says to me that

the frequency of the elements they are made from definitely comes into play, as

their vibration rate is going to be affected by electricity going through also.

The same as happens in fluorescent bulbs.

I noticed something similar a couple years ago when they started putting the

lithium standard size batteries in the stores also. That got my attention right

away, being lithium's effects on the body, that they can be more hazardous as

mentioned in rfid post, in spite of their longer life span.

I don't have one handy the correct size currently, to check that out in these

leds to compare also, but it's just something else to consider.

~ Snoshoe