Guest guest Posted September 28, 2009 Report Share Posted September 28, 2009 , I think you will love the Freedom once you've adjusted to it. We're trying to have a wonderful day here but looks like summer went south. LOL That is the coast for yuh. *---* *---* *---* *---* *---* A bicycle can't stand alone because it is two-tired. & Dreamer Doll ke7nwn E-mail- rclark0276@... Home Page- http://webpages.charter.net/dog_guide/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 > There are a number of electrosensitives, who do react to batteries. But do we know what they are reacting to? The battery slowly discharging? The charge it is currently holding? Offgassing of chemicals? (do they react to " dead " batteries?) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 > I just assumed was talking about people like me, who drain > batteries. You know, we once had someone here who felt *better* around batteries... in fact, this person put a " D " battery on top of their computer monitor because it made them feel better while using the computer. Cheaper than an EMF protection device, that's for sure! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I have heard that from others. I myself came in the vicinity of such a person with a meter in my hand, which was in the off-position. But when I came as close to 1 meter distance, this person got a red head, as an allergic reaction. I do know of other persons who will get complete allergic reactions over their total body when a visitor comes with a cell phone in his pocket. Perhaps it is also a reaction to the battery of this cell phone, in stead of the communications signals to the masts. Greetings, Claessens member Verband Baubiologie www.milieuziektes.nl www.milieuziektes.be www.hetbitje.nl checked by Norton Re: batteries > There are a number of electrosensitives, who do react to batteries. But do we know what they are reacting to? The battery slowly discharging? The charge it is currently holding? Offgassing of chemicals? (do they react to " dead " batteries?) Marc ------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 My parents have a big battery that stays in the house that they use to power their electric golf cart - it gives me terrible symptoms and I have to keep moving it around the house so that it is at one end and I am at the other since distance from it is the only thing that helps.  Steph From: Marc <marc@...> Subject: Re: batteries Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 17:24  > I just assumed was talking about people like me, who drain > batteries. You know, we once had someone here who felt *better* around batteries... in fact, this person put a " D " battery on top of their computer monitor because it made them feel better while using the computer. Cheaper than an EMF protection device, that's for sure! Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 > My parents have a big battery that stays in the house that they use to > power their electric golf cart - it gives me terrible symptoms and I have > to keep moving it around the house so that it is at one end and I am at > the other since distance from it is the only thing that helps. Does the battery give you the same kind of symptoms that you get from other EMF sources, or are the symptoms you get from the battery unique? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 > I do know of other persons who will get complete allergic reactions over > their total body when a visitor comes with a cell phone in his pocket. > Perhaps it is also a reaction to the battery of this cell phone, in stead > of the communications signals to the masts. I wonder if this applies to battery-operated wrist-watches as well... there are a few watches which don't require batteries (manual winding or self-winding based on body motion). I wonder if an ES person might react badly to a battery-operated watch but not to a watch that contains no battery? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2010 Report Share Posted July 26, 2010 I have a battery operated mattress pad I would love to use in the winter when sleeping outdoors but I react to it so can't use it. Loni From: Marc <marc@...> Subject: Re: batteries Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 10:12 AM  > There are a number of electrosensitives, who do react to batteries. But do we know what they are reacting to? The battery slowly discharging? The charge it is currently holding? Offgassing of chemicals? (do they react to " dead " batteries?) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2010 Report Share Posted July 30, 2010 Yup, I just checked one of mine; it's not tiny (2 AA, with three brightness modes and strobe, and pretty bright at full power); at medium and high levels it makes the AM radio screech. Can't say it's bothered me to use it, but still, interesting... R. > > > Hi all, thanks to everyone who has had suggestions for and me. Just > quickly, to clarify her reactions to batteries, that is to any > battery-operated device, including tiny LED flashlights. She is fine if the > item is off, but once turned on the tiny magnetic field is enough to give > her symptoms, even from a good distance away. We have to use candles (found > one that is MCS safe for her!), and wind up watch. Yes, she has felt tiny > watch batteries! > > best, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Hi Marc - no it is just much the same as my reaction to cell phones etc - exhaustion, pain, sore throat and glands and migraine/ neualgia type  headache.  Steph From: Marc <marc@...> Subject: Re: batteries Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 20:18  > My parents have a big battery that stays in the house that they use to > power their electric golf cart - it gives me terrible symptoms and I have > to keep moving it around the house so that it is at one end and I am at > the other since distance from it is the only thing that helps. Does the battery give you the same kind of symptoms that you get from other EMF sources, or are the symptoms you get from the battery unique? Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 No Bill  My reaction is independent of it being connected to the charger and plugged in on charge - I still react to it. With my eyes closed I could tell you whether it was in the room or not.  Steph > > From: Marc <marc@... <marc%40ufoseries.com>> > Subject: Re: batteries > <%40> > Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 17:24 > > > > > > I just assumed was talking about people like me, who drain > > batteries. > > You know, we once had someone here who felt *better* around batteries... > in fact, this person put a " D " battery on top of their computer monitor > because it made them feel better while using the computer. Cheaper > than an EMF protection device, that's for sure! > > Marc > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 > Hi Marc - no it is just much the same as my reaction to cell phones etc - > exhaustion, pain, sore throat and glands and migraine/ neualgia type > headache. Okay, thanks for that... with all this talk about batteries, I think I'm going to try wearing a battery-free (self-winding) watch, rather than the battery ones I have been wearing. (and then there's the issue of the " glow-in-the-dark " dials/hands, which at one time was radioactive... not so sure these days) Marc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2010 Report Share Posted July 31, 2010 Sorry to keep asking questions... I'm just trying to be scientific.. Did you try holding a portable AM radio near the battery, listening for anything on any frequency on the dial? It's possible there's some kind of electronic charge controller built in (does it have any little lights on it?). If it is the DC electric field affecting you, it should be very easy to shield that so it would not affect you unless you were very close. Bill On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 2:34 PM, <reader41@...> wrote: > > > No Bill > > My reaction is independent of it being connected to the charger and plugged > in on charge - I still react to it. With my eyes closed I could tell you > whether it was in the room or not. > > Steph > > > > > > From: Marc <marc@... <marc%40ufoseries.com> <marc% > 40ufoseries.com>> > > Subject: Re: batteries > > <%40> <% > 40> > > > Date: Monday, 26 July, 2010, 17:24 > > > > > > > > > > > I just assumed was talking about people like me, who drain > > > batteries. > > > > You know, we once had someone here who felt *better* around batteries... > > in fact, this person put a " D " battery on top of their computer monitor > > because it made them feel better while using the computer. Cheaper > > than an EMF protection device, that's for sure! > > > > Marc > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Hi Loni, Yes, lithium is supposed to be the battery type that is most compatible with the body. However, since fire alarms are not worn on the body, it probably doesn't matter. When I was testing fire alarms to put in the new house, 5 years ago, I found the battery operated types to be more comfortable than the AC powered ones, probably due to the electrical field. Though they are not entirely " quiet " like the one in my travel trailer from 1993. Can't get that model anymore... Loni wrote: > I am switching out the electrical Fire alarms for battery operated. Is a life time lithium power cell ok for EHSers? Loni > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 As far as I know they are fine. On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Loni <loni326@...> wrote: > > > > > I am switching out the electrical Fire alarms for battery operated. Is a > life time lithium power cell ok for EHSers? Loni > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Thank you for your response Bill! I will get one then! Loni > > > > > I am switching out the electrical Fire alarms for battery operated. Is a > life time lithium power cell ok for EHSers? Loni > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Thanks ; good to know! If I disconnet the electrical one & replace with the battery operated will that still be within code. So what I am asking is if we had a fire would insurance co accept the battery operated fire alarm? Just thinking of all aspects. Loni > I am switching out the electrical Fire alarms for battery operated. Is a life time lithium power cell ok for EHSers? Loni > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Well, I had an odd observation over Christmas. As much as I dislike led lights, battery operated or not, I decided to try a small string of solar powered ones, after noticing some, neighbors had didn't hurt my eyes as badly as the rest. It has one NiMH rechargable battery with it. I was really happy with this, as I felt nothing bad from it, at least not over about 6 " away. While the other lights are hard to stand for long as I've mentioned. I didn't get it recharged one day and decided to use an alkaline one in it's place (not enough sun to do the job right now). So, I stuck it in and turned it on, and yowie! The dirty electricity from that thing was strong, almost visible if you would, in comparison to the NiMH one. I could feel that several feet away and it was totally nasty. After the other was charged, I put it back in hoping it was still fine, and it was. I tried the alkaline again just for a test. Same reaction. This says to me that the frequency of the elements they are made from definitely comes into play, as their vibration rate is going to be affected by electricity going through also. The same as happens in fluorescent bulbs. I noticed something similar a couple years ago when they started putting the lithium standard size batteries in the stores also. That got my attention right away, being lithium's effects on the body, that they can be more hazardous as mentioned in rfid post, in spite of their longer life span. I don't have one handy the correct size currently, to check that out in these leds to compare also, but it's just something else to consider. ~ Snoshoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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