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June 18, 2001

it's such a shame in our society today that we have to lie to protect our

kids

Sherri

MomToTwoKids wrote:

> You lie and claim you never vaccinated. If you are only going to

> selectively vaccinate, then they never need to know. Use free

> clinics.

>

> If, by the time they are in school, they have their immunizations,

> and you simply did not follow the standard schedule, nobody will care

> or question why you delayed it - all they care about is that the set

> number of vaccines ordered in your state are completed before

> kindergarten.

>

> > For those who have decided to selectively vaccinate or delay

> vaccinating.

> > How do you handle public school issues where vaccinations are

> mandatory

> > except for medical or religious exemptions? If a parent delayed

> vaccinating

> > until age 5 and only selectively vaccinate, how do you handle this

> issue with

> > a public school?

> >

> > TIA!

> >

July 27, 2001

I was wondering if anyone else has problems with clouds. When ever it's

cloudy outside, ( I think it's the atmospheric pressure) I just get feeling

really run down and it seems that my digestive system slows down a lot as

well. I can't seem to focus, my eyes or my mind.

Is this a symptom of cancer? Is anyone esle experiencing this?

Klaus

July 27, 2001

Hey ah, yeah, thanks This really helped???????

BTW, There is no link for "sunbathing" on that site.

In a message dated 7/27/01 8:44:54 AM Mountain Daylight Time, dukeofchurchill@... writes:

Don't know your circumstances but go to www.healself.org and see what he says about sunbathing.

> I was wondering if anyone else has problems with clouds. When ever it's > cloudy outside, ( I think it's the atmospheric pressure) I just get feeling > really run down and it seems that my digestive system slows down a lot as > well. I can't seem to focus, my eyes or my mind.

> > Is this a symptom of cancer? Is anyone esle experiencing this?

> > Klaus

>

July 27, 2001

Don't know your circumstances but go to www.healself.org

and see what he says about sunbathing.

> I was wondering if anyone else has problems with clouds. When ever it's

> cloudy outside, ( I think it's the atmospheric pressure) I just get feeling

> really run down and it seems that my digestive system slows down a lot as

> well. I can't seem to focus, my eyes or my mind.

>

> Is this a symptom of cancer? Is anyone esle experiencing this?

>

> Klaus

>

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July 27, 2001

In a message dated 7/27/01 12:01:06 PM Mountain Daylight Time, Skibelt@... writes:

Don't know your circumstances but go to www.healself.org and see what he says about sunbathing.

Yeah but he don't say nuttin about what I asked about. I'm not suffering from SAD. I can get sun for 3 hours and get pretty red, 2 days later if it's cloudy out, my body hurts, my head hurts, my digestive system seems to get sluggish, depression comes over me.

I thought this was supposed to be some kind of support group for those with cancer. Aren't support groups s'posta talk to each other?

Klaus

July 27, 2001

http://www.healself.org/sun.html

Try this link.

> Hey ah, yeah, thanks This really helped???????

>

> BTW, There is no link for " sunbathing " on that site.

>

> In a message dated 7/27/01 8:44:54 AM Mountain Daylight Time,

> dukeofchurchill@... writes:

>

> > Don't know your circumstances but go to www.healself.org

> > and see what he says about sunbathing.

> >

> > > I was wondering if anyone else has problems with clouds. When ever it's

> > > cloudy outside, ( I think it's the atmospheric pressure) I just get

> > feeling

> > > really run down and it seems that my digestive system slows down a lot as

> > > well. I can't seem to focus, my eyes or my mind.

> > >

> > > Is this a symptom of cancer? Is anyone esle experiencing this?

> > >

> > > Klaus

> > >

> >

>

July 29, 2001

Hey Michele,

I think the answer to the question is that this disease is very rare to us & everyone else, but not rare to the doctors. Cuz when I talk to my doctor about it, he also tells me this is not a rare disease. But your right, none of us had heard about it, till we or our spouse's were diagnosed with it. I have also told people about this and got the same response " cholest -t-t-aaaa What???" Then you try to explain it to them and they are just blown away.

The doctors know all about it, but not the general public. Maybe that should change don't you think? This is something serioius that affects many many people who are totally unaware of this disease. It just stays hidding on the back burner, till Whoa, watch out!! You got full blown c-toma and need a tympano-mastoidectomy surgery. And the thing is that even babies are born with this disease sometimes. I really think more people should be made more aware of this, so let's start planning our national C -Toma Campaign!!!

Anyways, I'm feeling a bit better today. One in the afternoon and I just woke up. That was one helluva tranq. hehe!!! Hope everything is good with everyone else.

And Mike, it would be really nice if your friend would like to share her story about this nasty disease. Maybe just get her to write some things down on paper for you and so on. Thanx for joining, you seem like a good, caring friend.

Ciau 4 Now

Kim

Michele <iambored97601@...> wrote: Hey everyone,Got a question. We all know that this is not a rare disease but from what I can tell, know one had ever heard of it until they were diagnosed. Has anyone ever asked their dr. if this disease IS NOT rare, why hasn't anyone ever heard of it until they were diagnosed? When anyone finds out what Larry has, they go a cholestea-what? I've never heard of that.Anyone got an answer? I'm just curious. I will be asking Larry's doctor when I see him for surgery exactly one month from today!Michele

August 7, 2001

Personally I am trying to tell people I meet fairly often that I have HepC

in case I have an accident. From there I would say that if I meet someone

I'm attracted to I'll take it slowly & let them know before I try to get

close. Sad to say but if they can't accept you with HepC at the beginning of

a relationship it won't last if they find out later. As you've family, they

have to know as much as they can handle, & I wouldn't like to hide it from

them or have them cover for me, if you want a long term relationship I feel

they have to know!

If you have sex casually use protection, advice I've had is that with a

permanent partner contamination is less likely, though precautions are

advised unless you want children.If you take Rebetol/Ribavirin you must use

protection for up to seven months after finishing treatment.[it affects your

sperm]

I wouldn't take the chance of infecting someone who is ignorant of the need

for protection, as an ex blood donor I may have passed it on to 25+ people

through ignorance, until we have a cure I feel we must do all we can to stop

it spreading, take your time & build on a solid base.

All the best, Dave.

Question

> Hello everyone.

> I have a maybe silly question but it's bugging me so i'm asking it. I

> was diagnosed with hep-C back in October of 2000. I really do not

> know too much about it, but i am learning everyday. I know that the

> gastro dr. gave me clearance to have surgery done, and said I had no

> stigmata of liver disease, and he said my normal protime indicates

> that my blood coagulation system is in working order. I am a single

> parent with two teenagers. I haven't dated in a while, but would like

> to do so, and hopefully maybe find someone to share life with...I am

> not really sure how to handle a new relationship with hep-C...

> I am afraid of scaring everyone away if I come right out of the gates

> and tell them, yet i feel unresponsible and wrong if i don't. And

> what about sexual relations? SHould I tell or should i not???

> Geeez.....what a mess......please help me if anyone can....

>

August 16, 2001

Hi Gay and welcome to the group. At the time of the Cook Right book,

sunflower seeds were neutral for O's. It was several years later when Live

Right came out and with more sophisticated equipment and further study,

Sunflower seeds have now shown to be avoids. That's why there are

discrepancies in the different books. Written at different times, the work

Dr. D showed different results.

>

> Hello group,

>

> I am a little confused in the LR4YT it says sunflower seeds are an avoid,

> and in the CR4YT book in trail mixes for " Os " it lists sunflower seeds in

some

> of the recipes?? Also, how about hominy? And Beer some say

> occasionally and some say avoid?

>

> Thank a bunch

>

> Gay

>

> walltribe@...

August 21, 2001

In a message dated 8/21/01 9:10:58 AM GTB Daylight Time, JILBAIT@...

writes:

<<

Where can I find the state exemptions?

>>

http://www.access1.net/via/

August 21, 2001

You can find them under " state information " on my website:

www.vaccinationnews.com . Sandy

ALL INFORMATION, DATA, AND MATERIAL CONTAINED, PRESENTED, OR PROVIDED HERE

IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS

REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE

CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION

WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE

MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER.

question

Where can I find the state exemptions?

October 10, 2001

The quarantined vaccine has been stored at the manufacturer, Bioport.

MN

darocksmom@... wrote:

>

> Does Bioport have custody of those quarantined vaccines? If not, who does

> and how does it work?

> Jane

>

October 15, 2001

Dear Janice,

Emotions come up based on both factors - the points you tap on (as

Lyn mentioned), as well as the set up phrase.

Different points may well bring up different emotions, and often

while tapping, if new emotions come up, it's often works to

incorporate them into the tapping. For example, suppose you start

out with irritation and annoyance at the itching/pain, then while

tapping, " fear " comes up, you can add in the fear and change your

reminder phrase to " feeling annoyance, irritation and fear " while

continuing the tapping sequence. This will help tune in to and

dissipate the new emotions that come up during the process.

Secondly, in the set up phrase, suppose your set up phrase is:

" Even though I feel irritated and annoyed at the itching/pain, "

deeper emotions can come up with different endings. Some

possibilities:

" I deeply and completely love and accept myself. "

" I deeply and completely love, accept and forgive myself for my part

in it. "

" I deeply and completely love, accept and forgive myself and any

others involved. "

" I know I can have a smooth and relaxed feeling on my skin. "

As you go further and further towards the choice of " desired goal or

end result " , deeper emotions may come up. Childhood traumas may come

up. Or, in some cases, nothing may come up.

Here is where applied kinesiology plays an interesting role. With

A.K. one can muscle test the age capacity of the first time this

occurred, who was involved, etc. Healing this primary causal issue

can help heal the present day problem.

One can muscle test if there is an emotional component left to be

dealt with (in which case EFT can work well) or if there are other

priorities that require more attention, such as cleansing,

nutritional deficiencies, toxicity in the body, infections etc.,

chakras, reactives, electrical or structural or spiritual work....

there are so many aspects of an issue that need to be looked at.

I can work over the phone to help, if wanted. Let me know, and we can

set up a time, if interested.

You can write to me off-list at the email address, if you wish:

EmotionalFreedomTechniques-owner

With best wishes,

Dayu

> I realise that the set up staement has to be as precise as possible

> and 'hit the spot' but if one starts with a general set up and

> continues tapping would this in itself help to bring out

> the 'real'issue to be tapped on?

> I haven't got a specific in mind - but an example could be person

has

> a physical pain somewhere or itch or whatever. Apart from general

> feelings such as irritation with itch or annoyed with pain etc

there

> is nothing else to go on (or rather we can't find it)

> If we do rounds of tapping on this general state would this in time

> bring out the 'real' issue to be tapped on? and is there a limit to

> rounds of tapping before something should change?

> Janice

October 15, 2001

Thank you for that explanation. As I have only done basic training I

was not aware the actual point could trigger a reminder.

Janice

> > I realise that the set up staement has to be as precise as

possible

> > and 'hit the spot' but if one starts with a general set up and

> > continues tapping would this in itself help to bring out

> > the 'real'issue to be tapped on?

> > I haven't got a specific in mind - but an example could be person

> has

> > a physical pain somewhere or itch or whatever. Apart from general

> > feelings such as irritation with itch or annoyed with pain etc

> there

> > is nothing else to go on (or rather we can't find it)

> > If we do rounds of tapping on this general state would this in

time

> > bring out the 'real' issue to be tapped on? and is there a limit

to

> > rounds of tapping before something should change?

> > Janice

October 20, 2001

In a message dated 10/20/01 10:51:29 PM GTB Daylight Time, HappiHome@...

writes:

<<

My neighbor has a newborn, will any of the vaccinations he will be getting

over the next year put my unvaccinated two year old at risk?

>>

At most the varivax vaccine given btw 12m-18mo.Otherwise just the normal cold

stuff.My neighbors kids have CONSTANT colds or snotty noses.Oh the rotavirus

vaccine is back on the market in trials,so this is another threat at 2,4,6

months old.Ask if they are participating in the new trials. The virus lingers

in the poop like the OPV does.

sara

October 20, 2001

If they are live virus vaccines, either do not allow

your wee contact with this wee one for a few days

after, or as they get older, have them play outside,

if her wee one was just vaxed. Dead virus vax, as far

as I know, do not pose any transmissable " threat " , but

if you are uncomfortable with it, just keep wee ones

seperated for a few days after vaxing occurs.

~Donna...IL

--- Bridget B <HappiHome@...> wrote:

> My neighbor has a newborn, will any of the

> vaccinations he will be getting over the next year

> put my unvaccinated two year old at risk?

>

> Bridget

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

__________________________________________________

October 20, 2001

to be clear, the mmr and what else are live?

Re: question

If they are live virus vaccines, either do not allow

your wee contact with this wee one for a few days

after, or as they get older, have them play outside,

if her wee one was just vaxed. Dead virus vax, as far

as I know, do not pose any transmissable " threat " , but

if you are uncomfortable with it, just keep wee ones

seperated for a few days after vaxing occurs.

~Donna...IL

--- Bridget B <HappiHome@...> wrote:

> My neighbor has a newborn, will any of the

> vaccinations he will be getting over the next year

> put my unvaccinated two year old at risk?

>

> Bridget

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

__________________________________________________

October 20, 2001

At 03:03 PM 10/20/2001 -0500, you wrote:

>to be clear, the mmr and what else are live?

Chickenpox (and anyone who occasionally gets oral polio vaccine) and if

they come out with smallpox vax

Who knows about the killed ones. If they aren't totally killed (as

sometimes happens), then they act as live

Sheri

>

> --- Bridget B <HappiHome@...> wrote:

> > My neighbor has a newborn, will any of the

> > vaccinations he will be getting over the next year

> > put my unvaccinated two year old at risk?

> >

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October 24, 2001

I'm just like you-I just started on birth control

less than a year ago, and my problems started about

then. I have so many health problems that I really

didn't associate them with my thryoid, since my test

results always showed normal. That book I bought (Living

well with hypothyroidism) explained a lot-like how

birth control can cause your thyroid meds not to work

as well. My thyroid goes up and down all the time,

which is confusing to me, but my doctor today told me

that Synthroid is an " OLD " medicine, and makes your

levels go up and down...how can a drug like that even

get FDA approved if it does that? I never knew!

October 25, 2001

Really? I hadn't heard that about Synthroid. I'll

have to ask my doctor. He's actually very good about

discussing outside materials. He even read several articles

I brought in about pregnancy and hypo. Thanks for

the info. Ree

October 25, 2001

Hi, I haven't been able to post very much,

but your message about Synthroid caught my eye when I

scanned my clubs on My . Since Synthroid is

a *brand* name of the thyroid drug " levothyroxine " ,

was he referring specifically to that brand, when he

told you that *levothyroxine* is " an OLD medicine that

makes your levels go up and down " ? The reason I ask is

that I take Levoxyl -- a brand of levothyroxine that

costs about half as much as Synthroid. Levoxyl seems to

work very well (I'm on 175mcg, since I don't even HAVE

a thyroid gland). Anyway, I just wanted to

find out if that fact applies only to Synthroid, or to

all brands of levothyroxine...if your doc happened to

mention that. Thanks and take care, Chelle

October 25, 2001

Actually, it is the Levoxyl that I took too-I

assume she meant both the Synthroid and also the Levoxyl

since it is the generic-not positive though. I got to

wondering about why there is a settlement against Synthroid

too-anyone know?

October 25, 2001

I had never heard that either,but I know I've

been on the same dosage of Synthroid (Levoxyl)for the

last 7 years at least, no matter how many problems I

had, my tests always came back normal. I guess since

there are always so many new medicines coming out, even

something that has only been out a year could be called

" old " when something newer comes out. lol

October 27, 2001

Just an interesting factoid here-- Synthroid has NEVER been

FDA-approved!!!! <a

href=http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/8124/14219/331927.html

target=new>http://www.intelihealth.com/IH/ihtIH/WSIHW000/8124/14219/331927.html<\

/a>

October 28, 2001

Anyone know who is working on this?

Mel

>

> >Delivered-cure@...

> >From: Forshier L III Amn 55 CS/SCBP

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> > " 'CCF@...' " <CCF@...>

> >Subject: Question

> >Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 06:04:43 -0000

> >X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19)

> >

> >Viruses genetic codes when written on paper look like computer programs.

> >Viruses main objective is to attack and normal cell, alter the cell, to

> >create more viruses, then destroy the cell and move on. If viruses

genetic

> >code is so much like and computer program, and we can all ready engineer

> >humans genetic code, why don't we engineer a virus to attack abnormal

cells?

> >Malaria can not infect a person with recessive sickle-cell disease, do to

> >sickle-cell disease is abnormally shaped cells. So why not engineer

> >something that can go for abnormal cells? Not of sickle-cell patients but

of

> >cancer patients.

>

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