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[Guest guest]

on 19/11/02 4:04 AM, rhonda m pineau at scottron2@... wrote:

> Hi all. Had to write because the most amazing thing has happened. I

> started Olivia on Pediasure and finally after 2 years this child is

> producing BROWN bm's! In all her life (a whole 2 yrs lol) she had

> probably pooped brown 3 times until now. I'm in shock. She also seems

> to be more verbal, not just babbling but actually saying mama and dada

> and last night she said bubba, her bottle was empty. What do you make of

> this? It couldn't possibly just be a coincidence, could it? I'm stumped

> but happy. Now, if only it wasn't so damn expensive. 6 8oz cans for 9

> dollars. That's quite a bit of money. Think a doc could write a script

> for it? (Probably wishful thinking). Any comments would be quite

> welcome. Thanks.

> Rhonda

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would definitely try for a script it is available on script here in NZ if the

child proves to be a very difficult eater etc.

Regards

Terri NZ

PS - I thought this was dairy? maybe with the enzymes it sorts the proteins.

Re: (unknown)

on 19/11/02 4:04 AM, rhonda m pineau at scottron2@... wrote:

> Hi all. Had to write because the most amazing thing has happened. I

> started Olivia on Pediasure and finally after 2 years this child is

> producing BROWN bm's! In all her life (a whole 2 yrs lol) she had

> probably pooped brown 3 times until now. I'm in shock. She also seems

> to be more verbal, not just babbling but actually saying mama and dada

> and last night she said bubba, her bottle was empty. What do you make of

> this? It couldn't possibly just be a coincidence, could it? I'm stumped

> but happy. Now, if only it wasn't so damn expensive. 6 8oz cans for 9

> dollars. That's quite a bit of money. Think a doc could write a script

> for it? (Probably wishful thinking). Any comments would be quite

> welcome. Thanks.

> Rhonda

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

n,

Pediasure is a nutritional supplement, kinda like Ensure or maybe a

protein shake. It's good for gaining weight but it also has a ton of

vitamins and minerals in it. (And in our case, it makes yellow poop turn

brown:) I've been buying it at the grocery store next to formula and

it's 8.99 for 6 cans, 8oz.

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

yeah, it's still dairy but I don't think Livia has a dairy issue. (Not

100% sure, though.) I'm not giving her enzymes right now.

[Guest guest]

Becky,

..> Anybody know of a lawyer handling such cases near

..> Dallas, TX?

First, are you still in the military? When did you get your last

anthrax shot? Who (military or civilian) diagnosed you? You only have

TWO YEARS after your last shot to file suit under the Federal Tort

Claims Act (FTCA).

If you haven't already had a fitness-for-duty MEB/PEB, you have the

right to request one. DO IT! Have your neurologist do the referral.

The reason for this is to demonstrate that you brought to the attention

of the Air Force that you have a disqualifying condition. If they screw

you by giving you the infamous " 10%-and-severance pay " judgment (and

they will), you can either take it or reject it and opt to stay in until

you get sicker, and ask for another MEB/PEB later. (Since you already

have a disqualifying condition, I don't recommend that.) The MEB/PEB

finding gives you grounds to appeal Air Force errors in the Federal

Courts. It may sound as though this is the long way around, but believe

me, it's necessary!

In the Internet Age, it's not absolutely necessary to work with an

attorney in your area. It does make things easier, though. I suggest

you contact Braslow <mailto:DBrawslow@...> with the

SHERMAN, SILVERSTEIN, KOHL, ROSE & PODOLSKY law firm.

4300 Haddonfield Road

Suite 311

Pennsauken, New Jersey 08109

(856) 662-0700

http://www.sskrplaw.com/

They're handling the product liability class-action lawsuit against

Bioport for us. If you are or were in the military, I definitely

recommend my own attorney, J Byron Holcomb <mailto:bylaw@...>. He

does pretty much only military and veteran litigation.

I seem to be suing everybody in sight these days. Join in on the fun!

..> Got out before I would have had to take the

..> 6th one (waiver from doc at NSA would have been

..> insufficient if pressed - real one would have had to

..> come from the AF Surgeon General).

Appealing to the AFSG wouldn't have been of much benefit, anyway. Those

folks are part of the problem.

..> Was just diagnosed with MS last week.

I'm very sorry you developed ANY autoimmune disease from the anthrax

immunization. I know what it's like. (I have a version of seronegative

rheumatoid arthritis as a result of getting the anthrax immunization.)

The next year is going to be a really terrifying time for you. With my

experience as a guide, I suggest you IMMEDIATELY ask to see a clinical

psychologist at your local VA. You're going to be dealing with a lot of

problems spanning everything from life and death to body image to the

uncertainty of not knowing your prognosis. A clinical psychologist is

best equipped to help you. You won't emerge knowing any answers, but

being able to deal with the questions is the next best thing.

GET INTO THE VA HEALTH CARE SYSTEM NOW! Don't worry if you haven't yet

been rated by the VA. Take your DD-214, all your VA rating letters (if

you've been rated) and all the medical records you have (make copies of

your military medical records relating to at least all your active

medical problems) and take them with you to the VA. It takes at least a

full day to get into the system, but once you're in, you're good.

Whatever you do, make sure you have a way to continue your medications

and that you have a source of medical care.

It's important that you get on effective medications quickly. In the

beginning of any disease, you have the most to lose by delaying

treatment. Make medical care your highest priority.

The VA is good, but it's overworked, underfunded, and understaffed.

This means that you'll have to be your own energetic advocate to get the

best care you can. If you're not a health care professional, the

" system " can seem daunting and unresponsive. It really isn't. You have

to push it though to make it work optimally for you.

In your particular situation, you need to get plugged into the Neurology

Clinic and the Ophthalmology Clinic at the outset. The VA doesn't yet

have in-house facilities to take care of all the needs of women

veterans, so get information on the VA programs for women veterans and

start to learn about them.

E-mail me directly if you like, and I'll do my best to help you from

here. Remember, the next year is going to be difficult in more ways

than you can imagine, but believe me, you can do it!

Please keep in touch,

Fisher, MD

(Formerly: LTC USAFR MC FS)

Seattle, WA

P.S. -- The Jefferson quote refers to our post-9/11 erosion of civil

liberties. I'm politically very far to the left. You can imagine how

well this went over in the Air Force!

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The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with

the blood of patriots & tyrants. It is its natural manure.

-- Jefferson

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[Guest guest]

The district quickly withdrew their motion and drew up the settlement

agreement to be signed Monday..... although the response will still be of

record. This is how you get your district to listen to you. Don't take

thier ' no's ' as a final word....it isnt. It isn't even close. By going

to due process you not only guarantee the immediate future through stay put

but also put the district in a postion not to delay or impede the action or

they will be in non compliance of the 'Rowley' a well known and usually the

only defense in due process for districts. Parents that are having problems

shouldn't give up .... keep fighting. If you need encouragement....we will

encourage you. If you live in Colorado..... Move.

Peace to the children.

Mike

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Contact Mike for free online advocacy here at this email address or

call if you need immediate assistance at 808-845-7841 in Honolulu at my

home office.......1659 Meyers Street Monolulu, HI 96819(send any

doc's/donations here please)....... We offer parents up to 1 hour of free

teleconference or phone advice. Due to increasing costs and lack of outside

funding/donations(if you can send us either long distance phone cards or a

small monetary donation to help cover office supplies and other costs..we

would realy appreciate it), we are now asking for a min. donation of

$300.00 to cover the costs of initiating the case and preparing the due

process documents/discovery... for cases that go beyond the need of a phone

conference or teleconferece with the district and require more than 1 hour

of teleconference time, we ask for a donation based on the current

situation. This is to cover the cost only... of the services we provide...

we are a not for profit entity and work for children, not money. For

informal help you can also call , our Chicago area rep at 217-586-7504,

for free phone advocacy anytime. In person professional advocacy available

on a case by case basis nationwide. We will be partnering up with a new

attorney soon here in Hawaii where our office will be located, until then

please call me at the 808 # if you need to....

don't hesitate.

" Peace to the Children "

- Mike

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>Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:58:18 -0800

>

>

>

>

>Tanja....

>

>Can you do me a huge favor and fax this over to the Calif. SEHO for me this

>weekend at (916)739-7099.... I don't know if my printer will be here yet by

>then and I still have to replace my fax.... when I say 'non profit' I mean

>it.... haha... thank you very much,

>

>

>

>

>11-25-02

>

>In the Matter of E. II V PCOE/Placer Hills

>Case # SN-02-09175

>

>RESPONSE TO MOTION FROM RESPONDENT OF 11/18/02

>RE: Clarification of Summary Order to Stay Put

>

>The Respondent has been told of the multiple supreme court cases regarding

>Stay Put such as the Honig in the 4 page Summary Order that was issued by

>Hearing Officer Bryliski. It was then again motioned by petitioner that

>the respondent be held in contempt for their actions regarding stay put,

>and again motioned that they be ordered to follow the Summary Ruling which

>led to the SEHO referring the petitioner to the Calif. Dept. of Ed.

>Procedural Safeguard, in which the petitioner then brought the complaint

>to. It was stated in the second ruling, the minute ruling, that this is

>not

>a matter of the SEHO as you have already ruled and the compliance of the

>order, or non-compliance in this instance, was a concern of Procedural

>Safeguard and their jurisdiction. The Respondent has been duly notified

>of

>the order and has been duly notified a second time to follow the order by

>the minute ruling. Why now, 2 months after the order was put into effect

>would they want clarification ? Regardless of their wants or desires for

>clarification, it is the Petitioners opinion they should already know the

>stay put laws and abide by them without an order from the SEHO, or a second

>order such as was in the minute ruling.

> The Summary Order outlined enough case law (that the parents were

>easily able to understand) and defined exactly what was to be done.

>Status Quo was part of the order. I have had several conversations with

>Jack Mansperger, the previous behaviorist, who is more than willing to

>testify that 's after school program has been 5 days per week for

>close to two years. That is the Status Quo. Just because the respondent

>chose to change the IEP on his own without team consent or parent consent,

>does not change the fact that the status quo before his unauthorized change

>was 5 days per week 2 hours per day equating to 10 hours per week done from

>2:30 to 4:30 pm mon-fri during reg. school year. This can be documented by

>transportation records, the respondents own employees ( II's

>aides),

>and by the behaviorist that ran the school. It can also be documented by

>the data kept by the district that shows 5 days per week in the after

>school

>program.

>ONLY AFTER THE INITIATION OF DUE PROCESS did the school district change his

>IEP and cut the program to 3 days per week then stating that the

>behaviorist

>was incorporated in the 6 hours of enhancement. This has never been the

>case and is not the status quo. The status quo has been for the

>behaviorist

>to spend four hours per week overseeing the afterschool program and working

>1:1 with , and it has been done from 2:30 to 4:30 p.m., that is the

>' status quo ' , and can be proven easily by the respondents own records.

> We find this motion to be moot. We find it to be a waste of

>everyone's time. The petitioner has been working with Maureen Burness of

>the SELPA and Ken Poulsen, the actual superintendent of Placer Hills since

>before the date of the motion on a settlement, and have came to an

>agreement. The Petitioner will withdrawl this action upon that agrement

>being provided in writing as it is being prepared now by Placer Union's

>attorney Anne Sherlock from Gerard and Vinson. Ken Poulsen is aware of

>this

>motion and in a conversation today agreed that it was moot. He can be

>reached at 530-878-2606.

> In summary, due to the fact the district is fully aware and should be

>fully aware of what stay put is and what it is in the Summary Order, and

>the

>fact that we have already verbally settled and have informally settled via

>email with Ken Poulsen who is the Superintendent of the district of my sons

>school, the motion is moot and should be rendered so. We ask the SEHO to

>deny the motion of the district and to once again demand their compliance

>with the orders of the SEHO and refer the matter to the Procedural

>Safeguard

>unit, as before.

>

>

>In the Matter of E. II V PCOE/Placer Hills Unified

>Re: Response of the Respondent and the denial of the motion for

>Augmentative

>communication. Case SN 02-09175

>11-25-02

>

>The petitioner would like to inform the SEHO that the response contained

>false data that can be proven so just by reading the entire response. On

>the 17th page of the response there is a document that states 'page 8 of

>IEP' and in that written statement it states I was in full agreement of

>the

>use of the Voca Tech Talk device and on the top page of that document it

>states the meeting was recorded. If you did not listen to the recording,

>but only read the wording, you still will find I was verbally in agreement

>with the IEP. I was sent a copy of the signature page and faxed it back

>not

>only to Dr. Mozes but also to Maureen Burness of the Selpa the same day.

>The blank document that shows no signature is easily explained..... I did

>the IEP via teleconference from Hawaii... which is easily noted by

>listening

>to their recorded record of the IEP. This response was accurate, and the

>petitioners once again Motion that the district follow the guidelines set

>forth in the Augmentative Speech Assessment. We Motion that they follow

>the

>IEP held on that date as all members present and the recorded record and

>written record shows I was in complete approval of it. We also Motion

>that

>Dr. Mozes cease and decist in all activites that impede the special

>education of E. II, including but not limited to:

>Mistatement of facts, hiding augmentative devices and telling the

>assessors

><Mrs. Obrien> that the device had not been recieved when it had < Mrs.

>Obrien had to go to his office and retrieve the device so my son could

>start

>using it, Dr. Mozes contended the device had not been recieved>, Making

>statements regarding the education of II when he is not involved in

>it other then to hinder it, and making statements to either rena or myself

>about one another. Please Make note of these motions, we ask for your

>relief in the denial of the respondents motion and the granting of these

>motions.

>

>Thank you,

>

>

> E. , Sr.

>808-845-7841

>*********************************************

>The Office Of Advocacy for Autistic Children

>*********************************************

>----- We Need Your help to stay open -------

>**********************************************

> E. ,

>Reg. U.S. Civil Rights Lobbyist

>Dir, OAAC Dir, C.O.P.S. <inquire about this>

>Lil Mikey's Daddy

>============================

> " We Speak for those who can not, we will fight relentlessly for the Civil

>Rights of all Children....disabled or not .. Globally "

>============================

>Contact Mike for free online advocacy here at this email address

>or

>call if you need immediate assistance at 808-845-7841 in Honolulu at my

>home office.......1659 Meyers Street Monolulu, HI 96819(send any

>doc's/donations here please)....... We offer parents up to 1 hour of free

>teleconference or phone advice. Due to increasing costs and lack of

>outside

>funding/donations(if you can send us either long distance phone cards or a

>small monetary donation to help cover office supplies and other costs..we

>would realy appreciate it), we are now asking for a min. donation of

>$300.00 to cover the costs of initiating the case and preparing the due

>process documents/discovery... for cases that go beyond the need of a phone

>conference or teleconferece with the district and require more than 1 hour

>of teleconference time, we ask for a donation based on the current

>situation. This is to cover the cost only... of the services we provide...

>we are a not for profit entity and work for children, not money. For

>informal help you can also call , our Chicago area rep at 217-586-7504,

>for free phone advocacy anytime. In person professional advocacy available

>on a case by case basis nationwide. We will be partnering up with a new

>attorney soon here in Hawaii where our office will be located, until then

>please call me at the 808 # if you need to....

>don't hesitate.

> " Peace to the Children "

>- Mike

>-----------------------

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Shari. Welcome to the group. You will be doing

yourself a huge disservice if you did not read the past

postings.... we are a wealth of information.

There is soooooo much to learn. I learned some valuable

techniques, attempts, and mostly support and understanding.

We all have something different about us,... but then again

we have some similarities.

Take a moment, dear. Also, tell us something about you and your trials and tribulations. We might learn something new ourselves.

in Oregon

[Guest guest]

Hello Shari,

Welcome to the group. THere is a great deal of information in the database

(look to the left of this message...under HOME.) THere is also a lot of

information in the files and polls. I had a myotemy a year ago and am doing

great. Take time to get to know us and tell us about yourself. We know what you

are going through.

LInda in Houston

> Hi Shari. Welcome to the group. You will be doing

> yourself a huge disservice if you did not read the past

> postings.... we are a wealth of information.

>

> There is soooooo much to learn. I learned some valuable

> techniques, attempts, and mostly support and understanding.

>

> We all have something different about us,... but then again

> we have some similarities.

>

> Take a moment, dear.

> Also, tell us something about you and your trials and

> tribulations. We might learn something new ourselves.

>

> in Oregon

[Guest guest]

>I am happy about this finding, because it is another bio-marker that

>provides proof that all of this is not in our heads.

I truly hope this pans out.

BUT

considering the " fizzel " of the 2'5'a Rnase thing, I will wait with

Restrained optimism

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I barb

We had our s performed at UCLA and Carmen charged us

$1000 or was it nine hundred, we had every thing dye

sleep the lot, i think maybe they have put their price

up or something plus i think if you pay out of pocket

as we did they charge less but if insurance is paying

they charge full amount. hope it helps

Rifat

--- Barb Katsaros <barbkatsaros@...> wrote: >

We just got the bill from ucla, santa monica for one

> of our 2 brainspects performed. When I had called

> them for a quote, I was told it would cost about

> 1200

> dollars or so. I was very surprized to see a bill

> of

> 2,815. Apparently, the neurospect itself was 1476,

> but there were add'l costs for the injection of dye,

> etc. I just wanted to warn you of what this might

> cost in case any of you are paying for this out of

> pocket. Did any of you have bills which were less

> than this from s.m.? Note: We did not have any

> anesthesia. My kids were awake throughtout the

> procedure. I'm sure that would have been quite a

> bit

> more. Barb

>

> =====

> Barb Katsaros

> barbkatsaros@...

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[Guest guest]

If you have of those little vegetable steamers you sit in a saucepan? I stack

my veggies, any kind. Spinach leaves, onions, broccoli, carrots, squash,

parsnips....anything with a little seasoning between layers...Mrs. Dash is good.

and I love that with a nice peice of meat. I vary the veggies, but some of the

others have tried this and do like it.

jemmijemmi <Jem5252@...> wrote: Has anyone else tried that and does it

work? I can tell

them to make them without MSG, etc.

And with the colder weather, I'm really hoping to be able to use my

slow cooker to make some soups/stews. A steaming bowlful is so nice,

comforting even.

Thank you...take care!

Eilene (Jemmi) *_*

[Guest guest]

Eilene - want to eat like an O?

Meats/veggies/fat/fruits in that order.

YOU WILL LOOSE WEIGHT - GUARANTEED!!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

On the link you gave below the author recommends on not using dc or freq slower

than 4hz, because of problems he had from using 1/4hz (one cycle every 4

seconds),

Has anyone had any problems using Godzilla (one complete cycle every 10

minutes)? I have not.

Dick

(unknown)

Hi Dave,

Russ Torlage at Soto new Bob Beck very well- you should be best able

to advise you. I have heard that he is doing tests- but Bob beck did

loads of tests- this stuff works!

Regarding testimonials- there used to be lots on Soto, Jaguar

Enterprises- but the FDA ordered that they be removed.

Also try Beck-n-stuff at - they have about 600 members-

with some doctors, and natrapaths using Becks protocol on patients..

Also there is a video out by Dr Ben Elisier- (not sure if the

spelling is correct)

here''s some links

www.soto-inc.com

www.sharinghealth.com

www.toolsforhealing.com

comboweb.com

http://www.hiddencures.com/HiddenCuresUnit.htm

regards

> It is now 11 years since Beck introduced his

> first " Experimental In Vivo Blood Clearing Device " . Much has been

> written about these devices since that time. Beck claims that if

you

> follow his protocol to treat HIV/AIDS, that you can expect a 90-95%

> success rate. If these numbers are true, then why do I not see more

> success stories on this site?

> Surely after 10 years there must be some clinics that have

extensive

> experience with these treatments, yet I find only very limited

> information either positive or negative on effectiveness in a

> clinical setting. I have found more information on treating with

> Colloidal Silver alone than I have found for his protocol.

>

> Can anyone direct me to more information? I am interested in more

> than individual testamonials, altough I appreciate those as well.

>

> I would like this information to pass on to some contacts I have

with

> a charitable organization involved in HIV/AIDS assistance in Africa.

>

> Beck mentioned in one of his lectures that he was working with a

> clinic out of the country somewhere, does anyone have more

> information on that?

>

> Any information will be appreciated.

> Thank you

> Dave Sawatzky Canada

[Guest guest]

Nevermind, duh, I wasn't thinking when I wrote this. Sorry.

[Guest guest]

I'm concerned now too..... very concerned (taking the CS and MSM

presently....)

Mic

>

>I bought 100$ worth of CS last week (1 gallon) and i'm very concerned

>about taking it ††† it's quite a dilemma.

>Anyone have any idea if it's safe to just take a couple of tablespoons

>daily for a month?†††

>Does MSM have any side effect?

[Guest guest]

I've been taking the CS (6 TB 10 ppm daily for 2 weeks now and have

had no adverse side effects. Some positive effects, primarily in my

ears. I've also been taking up to 8 tsps of the MSM daily without

adverse side effects for the same time. The positive effect of the

MSM were reduced muscle aches and less constipation, especially in

my knee, which I wrenched quite badly several years back by overdoing

Tae bo.

Hi Everyone,

>

> I've been following this site for about 6 months now. I've suffered

[Guest guest]

I've been taking CS ofr a little over 3 weeks, and I'm neither gray

or blue as of yet. and Ann have both been taking it longer, if

they turn blue first, I'll stop.

Hi Everyone,

> >

> > I've been following this site for about 6 months now. I've

suffered

[Guest guest]

Thanks....I need the consolation right now.

Mic

>Hi . Here's what i've decided to do about this matter.. i'm gonna

>take CS for a month or two then, i will stop taking it no matter how

>much it has helped me. I don't think we can get argyria by taking 10 ppm

>CS for a month or two otherwise there would be thousands of smurfs out

>there. The people who has argyria probably took mass dosage for at least

>a year.

[Guest guest]

Hi , Humm I always thought the calcium was in the tums as a selling point cause it is not needed in anti acid as Mylanta and others do not add calcium . Im not sure if I agree with this nutritionist I not as confident about this as you are. I never heard of over acid relating to RA either . Im what you call a doubter here with this diet stuff . Probably because Im not a good follower here with diet . I eat everything I want to in moderation . My main concern has always been cutting down refined sugars and cutting back on carbs as yeast uses this as their fuel . This is well researched and common knowledge Ill see if I can cut and paste something to that effect to Eating soy products is controversial and as one with hypothyroidism there is some literature opposed with using soy products when one is prone to thyroid issues , there is also some literature out that states there is some relationship to flares with lupus because of estrogen found in soy . All of this has not suggested and no hard core clinical evidence to prove it has been established . I think it is always wise to read all but the source and how information is gathered is just as crucial in deciding its validity . I found using soy has MORE beneficial effects for me then NOT using soy . We all are different and will respond to differently to proven and not proven remedies. I think it is just important to journal and know and learn you body this way you become a better judge of how remedies effect your body . Thanks for sharing this information with me . Warm regards, socjog Re: rheumatic (unknown) Hi Socjog, Thank you for your interest and your reply. My answers are imbedded below... I would like to see the info that claims calcium neutralizes the bodies acid state . I never heard of this and would love to read more about this . Sorry, I have no references for you. A nutritionist/certified microsopist who was performing a screening test mentioned this to me. It does make sense though, when you think of antacids and Tums etc. which contain calcium. She said the body draws out calcium to try to neutralize the acid. In "Prescription for Nutritional Healing", it does say (P. 64) that RA can be one of the symptoms of a body that is overacid. I'm with Marge in that I like to keep yeast at bay and an acid environment yeast can not thrive in . Has this been established? This was what I wrote to have clarified. Do we have a source for this? Is it the same for mycoplasma and bacteria in general? For your osteoporisis you can increase your soy intake which has been shown to help increase bone density too . Soy milk is a great start I have heard this, but I'm not sure it has been proven. Do you know of any studies? Dr. Mercola at www.mercola.com has some interesting and negative information about soy products other than tempeh and miso and how they can interfere with protein absorption, I believe. I wish there were easy ansers to our issues. Take care,To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

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wrote : The positive effect of the

> MSM were reduced muscle aches and less constipation, especially in

> my knee,

You get constipation in your KNEE ??? Ok, OK, just pulling your leg

Fiona

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That's wonderful Tess. It sounds like you are having a good time. Have tons

of fun and have a slice of pizza for me. Tell Em " Hello and Happy Birthday! "

Love and Hugs

Stacey in PA

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Lol, Fiona. Constipation is when muscles don't move right?!! ;-0

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> > MSM were reduced muscle aches and less constipation,

especially in

> > my knee,

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> You get constipation in your KNEE ??? Ok, OK, just pulling your

leg

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> Fiona

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<PRE>i do understand tess. i am sorry you have to go through it too. i am still

very close with my mother in law, she helps me through alot and is always

part of our family. so it makes things even harder. it's a bunch of people

hiding their true feelings. but she will always be my friend and dan's

grandma. she was a victim in this too. don't worry about needing to vent. i

too am having a hard time dealing with what is happening to debs. but we

still are here and fighting our own battles too. debs is fighting for us too.

hang in there and take one thing at a time. i love you tess. we are all here

for each other. kathy in il

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(((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((((Tess))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))

I don't blame you a bit for being scared and frustrated. I hope that they

don't find anything when they do your procedure next month, but if they do

we'll be there for you, and most importantly the Lord will be right by your

side. You are so loved, Tess, and you're never walking alone.

I, too, am having a harder time getting in the " holiday spirit " knowing that

Debs is so sick. And your wedding anniversary is probably a bittersweet

time for you. I'm sure Vince is looking down from heaven with love in his

heart for you.

Don't ever apologize for sharing with the group. We love you and that's

what we're here for.

Love and hugs,

Carol

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Dear Friends...In light of all that Deb is going through as well as

everyone's personal challenges, I don't like 'whining' right now, but I

need to, a little.

I had a wonderful weekend with Em's birthday & all, have all my cards

mailed and every gift but one bought. I have a little tree up and

Christmas cards strung for all to see.

But I am feeling angry and frustrated and overwelmed. I went in for my

pre-op today...the EKG's were down, and the blood work can't be done for

2 weeks...my Dr. wasn't too happy with all that...she was very sweet to

me...but it really was a pretty uneccesary trip...all could have been

done in 2 weeks, but the nurse that called said NOW. The procedure is a

bit of a bigger deal than I thought. I'm not afraid, I truly believe I

will be ok, but I also feel that they will find cancer or something. If

so, so be it...another path to take. The Lord will help me through. I

got SO many calls today about scheduling, instructions, lab work. It is

now schedued for Monday January 13 at 10:30 PST. I have another lab

appt. & visit with my PCP before then, and lab work to be done at the

hospital.

I called my rheummy about the Remicade which I won't be having now until

at least late February...I truly understand why, but I don't look

forward to very active RA in winter, recovering from whatever surgery.

They also informed me that there is NO record of the bloodwork for

Sjorgren's, though I was RIGHT THERE when my rheummy ordered it and

, an MA drew the sample. So, they re-ordered it and I need to go to

a different lab for that.

I really have been in a wonderful holiday spirit, and still am in many

ways, but I can feel myself being " extra " cheerful so people won't

worry. Then I crash...just feeling overwelmed, about Debs, personal

stuff.

Our family holiday party got changed from Dec. 22 to Dec. 21 which is my

34th wedding anniversary which I can't help but feel deep in my heart

and hear Vince singing " O Holy Night " . My kids are very kind about

that...no body else will talk about it cause it's " too sad " ...I think

it's sadder still NOT to talk about it and acknowledge this precious

person & time in my life.

I am really, really being encouraged to work harder on the weight, and

for good reason...I am, I have been, I will continue to. There just

seems like so much.

Thanks for listening...I spent most of yesterday crying and hiding

out...that's an old habit I don't want to encourage..the hiding out

part.

My son is coming to Portland for Christmas, and my girls are on edge.

Please keep me & my family in your prayers. Thank you for listening to

all this...sometimes you just feel like you might pop, I know you know

that feeling.

I love you all...

Tess

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rebecca, disney world is Montyman's favorite place on earth! i only wish i

could take him every year! it's amazing watching him there, because he acts

so normal in so many situations, even on the public transportation over

there, i think because there is so much visual activity going on, he forgets

to self stem. LOL

im glad you got to go.

donna, montymans mom