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For the first 10 yrs of my sobriety I was very depressed. I refused to take

anything more than asprin. When I decided to try treatment the doc put me on

anti depressants 2 months before treatment. 2 months because thats how long it

takes to get used to them. Well we all know that the treatment didnt work for me

but the anti depression meds did to my surprise. I dont feel them at all. All

they do for me is replace the seritan and dophamin that my body stopped making.

On a personal note, my heart goes out to you Patti. It takes a special type of

coward to do what that man did to you. I hope you have a restraining order on

him even if its been 4 yrs. Your a special person in Gods eye and mine and I

wish you all the love and respect that you deserve. L

________________________________

From: patti <fishinggal2008@...>

Hepatitis C

Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:33:18 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Hi Deborah,

Knowing we have it surely doesn't make us feel like a jovial comic for sure. LOL

Lloyd is right and I mispell the two also but Seritan and.dolpimin is deminshed

in our brain as the disease progresses. Thus far I have refused all

anti-depressants but that may change when I see the psychiatrist on Oct 2. I

know we are going to butt heads but I don't believe in western meds and just

want to talk and try to comprehend how my ex could break 3 ribs, tear both

rotator cuffs, and herniate 9 verterbre, how anyone could inflict such hurt on

another. I left 4 years ago but have yet to let a man touch me since and

frankly, I'm tired of it. Tired of being afraid to touch a man, among other

things, and tired of fighting this constant fear on my own. A friend walked

into my kitchen a few weeks ago, I didn't hear him, and when I turned around, I

screamed he was shocked. I felt cornered. Now he's scared to death of me. LOL

" For gosh sake, get

over it, " is my mantra every day. It hasn't worked. I want to know if Hep C

makes u incapable of forgiveness or if this is normal due to Hep C. I forgive

others of small aggrevations, never held a grudge in my life, don't like the

feeling, but this problem builds instead of deminishing. I go to church and

forget it for awhile by being around other christians, singing, feeling positive

people, positive input around me but then I come home and it starts all over. I

still wake up crying dreaming the same nightmare over and over. 4 years darn it.

Is my ex destined to ruin the rest of my life or am I allowing him to ruin it?

Do I need to take the anti-depressants or just find a nice guy and learn to

trust again? Do anti-depressants work or do they make u a zombie?

Patti

From: Lynae <lynae.monique>

Subject: (unknown)

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Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:44 PM

Does anyone know if taking 2 baby asprins every nite would be bad for someone

with hep c?

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For the first 10 yrs of my sobriety I was very depressed. I refused to take

anything more than asprin. When I decided to try treatment the doc put me on

anti depressants 2 months before treatment. 2 months because thats how long it

takes to get used to them. Well we all know that the treatment didnt work for me

but the anti depression meds did to my surprise. I dont feel them at all. All

they do for me is replace the seritan and dophamin that my body stopped making.

On a personal note, my heart goes out to you Patti. It takes a special type of

coward to do what that man did to you. I hope you have a restraining order on

him even if its been 4 yrs. Your a special person in Gods eye and mine and I

wish you all the love and respect that you deserve. L

________________________________

From: patti <fishinggal2008@...>

Hepatitis C

Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:33:18 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Hi Deborah,

Knowing we have it surely doesn't make us feel like a jovial comic for sure. LOL

Lloyd is right and I mispell the two also but Seritan and.dolpimin is deminshed

in our brain as the disease progresses. Thus far I have refused all

anti-depressants but that may change when I see the psychiatrist on Oct 2. I

know we are going to butt heads but I don't believe in western meds and just

want to talk and try to comprehend how my ex could break 3 ribs, tear both

rotator cuffs, and herniate 9 verterbre, how anyone could inflict such hurt on

another. I left 4 years ago but have yet to let a man touch me since and

frankly, I'm tired of it. Tired of being afraid to touch a man, among other

things, and tired of fighting this constant fear on my own. A friend walked

into my kitchen a few weeks ago, I didn't hear him, and when I turned around, I

screamed he was shocked. I felt cornered. Now he's scared to death of me. LOL

" For gosh sake, get

over it, " is my mantra every day. It hasn't worked. I want to know if Hep C

makes u incapable of forgiveness or if this is normal due to Hep C. I forgive

others of small aggrevations, never held a grudge in my life, don't like the

feeling, but this problem builds instead of deminishing. I go to church and

forget it for awhile by being around other christians, singing, feeling positive

people, positive input around me but then I come home and it starts all over. I

still wake up crying dreaming the same nightmare over and over. 4 years darn it.

Is my ex destined to ruin the rest of my life or am I allowing him to ruin it?

Do I need to take the anti-depressants or just find a nice guy and learn to

trust again? Do anti-depressants work or do they make u a zombie?

Patti

From: Lynae <lynae.monique>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:44 PM

Does anyone know if taking 2 baby asprins every nite would be bad for someone

with hep c?

[Guest guest]

For the first 10 yrs of my sobriety I was very depressed. I refused to take

anything more than asprin. When I decided to try treatment the doc put me on

anti depressants 2 months before treatment. 2 months because thats how long it

takes to get used to them. Well we all know that the treatment didnt work for me

but the anti depression meds did to my surprise. I dont feel them at all. All

they do for me is replace the seritan and dophamin that my body stopped making.

On a personal note, my heart goes out to you Patti. It takes a special type of

coward to do what that man did to you. I hope you have a restraining order on

him even if its been 4 yrs. Your a special person in Gods eye and mine and I

wish you all the love and respect that you deserve. L

________________________________

From: patti <fishinggal2008@...>

Hepatitis C

Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:33:18 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Hi Deborah,

Knowing we have it surely doesn't make us feel like a jovial comic for sure. LOL

Lloyd is right and I mispell the two also but Seritan and.dolpimin is deminshed

in our brain as the disease progresses. Thus far I have refused all

anti-depressants but that may change when I see the psychiatrist on Oct 2. I

know we are going to butt heads but I don't believe in western meds and just

want to talk and try to comprehend how my ex could break 3 ribs, tear both

rotator cuffs, and herniate 9 verterbre, how anyone could inflict such hurt on

another. I left 4 years ago but have yet to let a man touch me since and

frankly, I'm tired of it. Tired of being afraid to touch a man, among other

things, and tired of fighting this constant fear on my own. A friend walked

into my kitchen a few weeks ago, I didn't hear him, and when I turned around, I

screamed he was shocked. I felt cornered. Now he's scared to death of me. LOL

" For gosh sake, get

over it, " is my mantra every day. It hasn't worked. I want to know if Hep C

makes u incapable of forgiveness or if this is normal due to Hep C. I forgive

others of small aggrevations, never held a grudge in my life, don't like the

feeling, but this problem builds instead of deminishing. I go to church and

forget it for awhile by being around other christians, singing, feeling positive

people, positive input around me but then I come home and it starts all over. I

still wake up crying dreaming the same nightmare over and over. 4 years darn it.

Is my ex destined to ruin the rest of my life or am I allowing him to ruin it?

Do I need to take the anti-depressants or just find a nice guy and learn to

trust again? Do anti-depressants work or do they make u a zombie?

Patti

From: Lynae <lynae.monique>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:44 PM

Does anyone know if taking 2 baby asprins every nite would be bad for someone

with hep c?

[Guest guest]

For the first 10 yrs of my sobriety I was very depressed. I refused to take

anything more than asprin. When I decided to try treatment the doc put me on

anti depressants 2 months before treatment. 2 months because thats how long it

takes to get used to them. Well we all know that the treatment didnt work for me

but the anti depression meds did to my surprise. I dont feel them at all. All

they do for me is replace the seritan and dophamin that my body stopped making.

On a personal note, my heart goes out to you Patti. It takes a special type of

coward to do what that man did to you. I hope you have a restraining order on

him even if its been 4 yrs. Your a special person in Gods eye and mine and I

wish you all the love and respect that you deserve. L

________________________________

From: patti <fishinggal2008@...>

Hepatitis C

Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 5:33:18 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Hi Deborah,

Knowing we have it surely doesn't make us feel like a jovial comic for sure. LOL

Lloyd is right and I mispell the two also but Seritan and.dolpimin is deminshed

in our brain as the disease progresses. Thus far I have refused all

anti-depressants but that may change when I see the psychiatrist on Oct 2. I

know we are going to butt heads but I don't believe in western meds and just

want to talk and try to comprehend how my ex could break 3 ribs, tear both

rotator cuffs, and herniate 9 verterbre, how anyone could inflict such hurt on

another. I left 4 years ago but have yet to let a man touch me since and

frankly, I'm tired of it. Tired of being afraid to touch a man, among other

things, and tired of fighting this constant fear on my own. A friend walked

into my kitchen a few weeks ago, I didn't hear him, and when I turned around, I

screamed he was shocked. I felt cornered. Now he's scared to death of me. LOL

" For gosh sake, get

over it, " is my mantra every day. It hasn't worked. I want to know if Hep C

makes u incapable of forgiveness or if this is normal due to Hep C. I forgive

others of small aggrevations, never held a grudge in my life, don't like the

feeling, but this problem builds instead of deminishing. I go to church and

forget it for awhile by being around other christians, singing, feeling positive

people, positive input around me but then I come home and it starts all over. I

still wake up crying dreaming the same nightmare over and over. 4 years darn it.

Is my ex destined to ruin the rest of my life or am I allowing him to ruin it?

Do I need to take the anti-depressants or just find a nice guy and learn to

trust again? Do anti-depressants work or do they make u a zombie?

Patti

From: Lynae <lynae.monique>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:44 PM

Does anyone know if taking 2 baby asprins every nite would be bad for someone

with hep c?

[Guest guest]

you are a beautiful person

Lloyd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

im thinking about trying anti depressants...cant they hurt your liver thou?

From: Lynae <lynae.monique>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:44 PM

Does anyone know if taking 2 baby asprins every nite would be bad for someone

with hep c?

[Guest guest]

you are a beautiful person

Lloyd!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!\

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

im thinking about trying anti depressants...cant they hurt your liver thou?

From: Lynae <lynae.monique>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:44 PM

Does anyone know if taking 2 baby asprins every nite would be bad for someone

with hep c?

[Guest guest]

dear Pam I too have porphyria or so they said way b4 they diagnosed the hepc, It is more depressing than anything, it takes a strong person to overcome this dis-ease. If you ever need to talk about it, compare notes you can e-mail me directly ay stayhungryforlife@... I too am a single mom, now grandmom to 6, I live in fear of infecting them by acccident because of the porp sores. I did the tx-unsuccessfully though, but there is always hope. Heck people have been known to live with the virus for a normal lifespan with good nutrition, easier said than done. Betty

From: pam miller <pammango@...> Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2009 11:41:18 PMSubject: Re: [ ] (unknown)

I tried anti'd"s but got real sick.I am single with 5 boys at home.Been managable till this porphyria kicked in.That's what makin me sick. pam

[ ] (unknown)

http://digestive. niddk.nih. gov/ddiseases/ pubs/porphyria/ index.htm

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no meds are good for the liver not even asprin. Fried foods are worse than

tylenol and if I have a real bad headache I am going to take tylenol. I dont eat

fried foods though. What am I trying to say? Ha. Maybe this: I have cut out 90

per cent of foods and meds that are bad for the liver I just try to keep the 10

per cent I still do to a minimum and that includes the anti depressent. Just

remember if you go on them, that it will take 60 days to get used to them. I

started out on Effexor while on treatment but moved to another generic brand

after that suited my mood better. Thats got to be as clear as mud Deb. L

________________________________

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Hepatitis C

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:42:31 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

you are a beautiful person Lloyd!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!

im thinking about trying anti depressants. ..cant they hurt your liver thou?

From: Lynae <lynae.monique>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:44 PM

Does anyone know if taking 2 baby asprins every nite would be bad for someone

with hep c?

[Guest guest]

no meds are good for the liver not even asprin. Fried foods are worse than

tylenol and if I have a real bad headache I am going to take tylenol. I dont eat

fried foods though. What am I trying to say? Ha. Maybe this: I have cut out 90

per cent of foods and meds that are bad for the liver I just try to keep the 10

per cent I still do to a minimum and that includes the anti depressent. Just

remember if you go on them, that it will take 60 days to get used to them. I

started out on Effexor while on treatment but moved to another generic brand

after that suited my mood better. Thats got to be as clear as mud Deb. L

________________________________

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Hepatitis C

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:42:31 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

you are a beautiful person Lloyd!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!

im thinking about trying anti depressants. ..cant they hurt your liver thou?

From: Lynae <lynae.monique>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:44 PM

Does anyone know if taking 2 baby asprins every nite would be bad for someone

with hep c?

[Guest guest]

no meds are good for the liver not even asprin. Fried foods are worse than

tylenol and if I have a real bad headache I am going to take tylenol. I dont eat

fried foods though. What am I trying to say? Ha. Maybe this: I have cut out 90

per cent of foods and meds that are bad for the liver I just try to keep the 10

per cent I still do to a minimum and that includes the anti depressent. Just

remember if you go on them, that it will take 60 days to get used to them. I

started out on Effexor while on treatment but moved to another generic brand

after that suited my mood better. Thats got to be as clear as mud Deb. L

________________________________

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Hepatitis C

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:42:31 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

you are a beautiful person Lloyd!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!

im thinking about trying anti depressants. ..cant they hurt your liver thou?

From: Lynae <lynae.monique>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:44 PM

Does anyone know if taking 2 baby asprins every nite would be bad for someone

with hep c?

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no meds are good for the liver not even asprin. Fried foods are worse than

tylenol and if I have a real bad headache I am going to take tylenol. I dont eat

fried foods though. What am I trying to say? Ha. Maybe this: I have cut out 90

per cent of foods and meds that are bad for the liver I just try to keep the 10

per cent I still do to a minimum and that includes the anti depressent. Just

remember if you go on them, that it will take 60 days to get used to them. I

started out on Effexor while on treatment but moved to another generic brand

after that suited my mood better. Thats got to be as clear as mud Deb. L

________________________________

From: deborah brown <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Hepatitis C

Cc: deborah kay mand <heaven_scent_in_55@...>

Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 6:42:31 PM

Subject: Re: (unknown)

you are a beautiful person Lloyd!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!! !!!!

im thinking about trying anti depressants. ..cant they hurt your liver thou?

From: Lynae <lynae.monique>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:44 PM

Does anyone know if taking 2 baby asprins every nite would be bad for someone

with hep c?

[Guest guest]

Thanks Betty,

Went to doc and iron level is fine,waiting on rest of labs.Hands are starting to itch so maybe it's clearing up.My viral load wasn't in but when she told me my enzems were still lowering I left happy.How often do you errupt?This is first time it happened.They seem to think treatment triggered it and maybe if I reach svr it'll go away.I got really sick and felt like I was losing my mind.Sound familar? pam

[ ] (unknown)

http://digestive. niddk.nih. gov/ddiseases/ pubs/porphyria/ index.htm

Here is a link Pam on porphyria.

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ive got to be a little more careful about fried foods. i had fried potatoes for

supper tonite,yikes. i quit smoking,oct 27th,08 so i'm going on a yr here and im

almost sure alot of my depp was/is caused by " lack of " addictive poisons running

threw me.i started smoking at 13 so yaaa,im sure this body is still crying out

for the nicotine. my doc wanted to put me on antidepp. when i started my quit

but i told her that i could do it and so far i'm still smoke-free with 0 slips.

i could never take 1 puff, i know that...sure miss it thoubut i know its all

over but the crying,lol have a good nite everyone!

 

From: Lynae <lynae.monique>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:44 PM

Does anyone know if taking 2 baby asprins every nite would be bad for someone

with hep c?

[Guest guest]

ive got to be a little more careful about fried foods. i had fried potatoes for

supper tonite,yikes. i quit smoking,oct 27th,08 so i'm going on a yr here and im

almost sure alot of my depp was/is caused by " lack of " addictive poisons running

threw me.i started smoking at 13 so yaaa,im sure this body is still crying out

for the nicotine. my doc wanted to put me on antidepp. when i started my quit

but i told her that i could do it and so far i'm still smoke-free with 0 slips.

i could never take 1 puff, i know that...sure miss it thoubut i know its all

over but the crying,lol have a good nite everyone!

 

From: Lynae <lynae.monique>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 6:44 PM

Does anyone know if taking 2 baby asprins every nite would be bad for someone

with hep c?

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info.

 

Prayer has the power to change mountains into highways.

Pray as if everything Depended on God;act as if everything depended on you.

From: Angelo <tommybad238>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years to

shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others.

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here on

end.  My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And for those who

tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work and have cirhosis

now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net and see all these

claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and various herbs etc. The

thing is most studyies on these items are done in petri dishes or animals. In

humans these things barely get absorbed if at all and people are spending there

hard earned money on this shit. The way our bodies metabolizes these supplements

or herbs renders most of them useless or turnes them into something else. They

don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb or

the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include the root

in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the part you need

but they don't include that etc. Look at the blueberries thing that came out

that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys where there in

Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Believe me I checked it

out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. Maybe they included

something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come along and say they have

rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy it not knowing if it's really

rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even gets absorbed. SAy 1 million persons

buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag retires rich as hell and were still no

better and lighter in the wallet to

[Guest guest]

Angelo you are right.  I made my own collidial silver for almost a year, took it

religiously.  I have been eating blueberries for years but only cause I like

them but some charlaton will make a bloody fortune on those of us who don't

research enough.  I've taken milk thistle 2 times daily for almost 30 years. 

Now I'm on a tea of herbs 3 times a day.  I ran the ingrediants by my doctor and

she said they are all powerful antioxidents and certaintly can't hurt me but as

far as a cure............ no.

 

I believe God put the cures for all ailments here on earth and it's up to us to

discover them but we are so busy destroying the planet and thousands of species

daily through deforestation and dumping refuse into our ocean, we may have

killed the natural cure already.  We as humans were instructed by God to look

over all creatures and look what we've done to the earth.

 

From: Angelo <tommybad238>

Subject: (unknown)

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Saturday, September 5, 2009, 10:08 PM

 

There have been quite a few things that have happened these past few years to

shake up the clinical studies. Like what you mentioned and many others.

Scientist taking kickbacks, lobbying for money, fixing results of clinical

trials etc. At least these things improve there security checks from here on

end.  My whole thing is desprete people will do most anything. And for those who

tried treatment and got very sick from it and it didn't work and have cirhosis

now many may have that deperation in them to surf the net and see all these

claims of accupunture for hep c and collidal silver, and various herbs etc. The

thing is most studyies on these items are done in petri dishes or animals. In

humans these things barely get absorbed if at all and people are spending there

hard earned money on this shit. The way our bodies metabolizes these supplements

or herbs renders most of them useless or turnes them into something else. They

don't tell you that on there

web sites though. Look at the debates with herbs. Do you buy the whole herb or

the extract. Which one gets absorbed better if it all. Do you include the root

in the extract or whole herb. How about the leaves which is the part you need

but they don't include that etc. Look at the blueberries thing that came out

that kills hep c. The problem is it's " Rabbit Eye " blueberys where there in

Southeast USA but nobody sells a rabbit eye extracts. Believe me I checked it

out. The research doesn't say how they took it either. Maybe they included

something with to help absorb it. Now someone will come along and say they have

rabbit eye extract for hep c and millions will buy it not knowing if it's really

rabbit eye blueberry extract or if it even gets absorbed. SAy 1 million persons

buy it at $20.00 a pop. This scum bag retires rich as hell and were still no

better and lighter in the wallet to

[Guest guest]

Dear Pam,

My dr said the treatment can make it worse and can sometimes cause them to want to stop treatment if this happens. The sun makes it worse, the heat will make it itch, and dear God if you sweat thats when it all starts. Diet is the only thing you can do to help decrease the enzyme levels to help it. Mine did not get worse during tx i think because I was too sick too pick at it or even notice new lesions, so they seem to go away if you can not bother them LOL, Clean the area with a stidex wipe and then Glob yourself with vaseline, i dont know why but it helpsto clear it up and stops the itch. They say this is one in a few million people, I left the Dr saying of great now i find im related to wherewolves. The mind games can be either, they say Henry the 8th went insane because of it. I think because you start to believe there is some parasite on you but the good old docs dont find anything, so your mind plays games with

you, there is also the embarrassment factor. People look at you like OOOH, what does she have. Boy if they only knew they wouldnt understand . Accept that this is the cards that have been dealt to you and me and dont give up. Its all superficial went you really accept it.

From: pam miller <pammango@...> Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2009 8:55:10 PMSubject: Re: [ ] (unknown)

Thanks Betty,

Went to doc and iron level is fine,waiting on rest of labs.Hands are starting to itch so maybe it's clearing up.My viral load wasn't in but when she told me my enzems were still lowering I left happy.How often do you errupt?This is first time it happened.They seem to think treatment triggered it and maybe if I reach svr it'll go away.I got really sick and felt like I was losing my mind.Sound familar? pam

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http://digestive. niddk.nih. gov/ddiseases/ pubs/porphyria/ index.htm

Here is a link Pam on porphyria.

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Another option for the follow up to be neg may be that his initial test showed positive and with further PCR testing showed he was neg, because I also have Rhumatoid arthritis and that can cause a false positve result for Hepc, I wasn't that lucky though further testing only verified the pos results. But Great for him if this is so.

From: Gloria <gadamscan@...> Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 12:29:49 AMSubject: Re: [ ] (unknown)

I believe that it was on this site, that a fella came in to remark that initially he tested as positive for HepC; but, then when he went for further tests, he did not actually have the virus at that point. It was remarked by someone that he must be a miracle. Well, no - the first test showed the antibodies that were present to fight the virus that his body had already been able to ward off.All that I know, is that when one reaches SVR, it means that the virus can not be read in the body at that point. However, I'm not sure that they can yet assure us that, that means on a cellular level. We all will always have the antibodies in our system. They are just pretty damn sure that if they still can't read the virus 6 mos after treatment, that studies have shown we have a pretty huge hope that it will not come back. However, it is called remission not a cure.Gloria

I feel like I am going thru deja vu.

I made the comment months ago that even though a person reaches SVR, the virus is still present in ones body, however slight.

Many never become active again, [thank God], but some do, and have to repeat TX down the road.

I always thought of a 'cure' as a total eradication, meaning 'no traces what-so-ever even on a cellular level'.

From: Gloria <gadamscan (DOT) ca>Subject: Re: [ ] (unknown) Date: Sunday, September 6, 2009, 10:10 PM

I've never heard that anyone calls a lack of of being able to read the viral load - a cure??? When did this happen and why?Gloria

They never cured a virus before Don. Not even the common cold. This is the first virus that they are calling a "cure" now. The future looks bright for those with hep c it is just a shame that a lot of people don't have to long into the future to look.

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Molly,

Viral infections don't respond to anti-biotics so I think your doctor was

right.? How old is Ben?? When my son was little he got some really terrible

stomach bugs.? One of my pediatricians gave me his mother's remedy for diarreha

and it was the only thing that worked.? Cook up some rice with extra water.?

After 20 minutes pour the extra water into a cup and cool it.? I had to sweeten

it to get Liam to drink it, but taking an once or two every hour did the trick.?

Liam was getting so dehydrated he almost had to be hospitalized, but this rice

water worked.?

Kathy, Liam's mom (11)

(unknown)

, sorry to hear about your situation. My son Ben has stayed home all week,

and missed more school this year, than days that he's been at school. He was

diagnosed with an upper respiratory infection and stomach virus. He has had

fever every night for the past two weeks. The Dr.'s won's give him any

antibiotics. (How does an infection go away without it?) We went to a new

pediatrician's office today and saw a fill-in Dr., who said that this is his 1st

and only time to be there. Why not give him the simple colds and cough, rash

cases, not the complex cases. I thought that the front office pre-screens

patients cause for coming in. (What is there job anyway?) The fill-in Doc said

that he wanted us to come back in a week to see the regular Dr. Meanwhile, I

could almost bet that he'll have fever for another week, until Tuesay, and a few

days after that for the medicine that I pray the regular new Dr. will give us

and for it to work. Can anyone

please share their experiences with irritated small intestines? Ben is on the

BRAT diet (Bananas, Rice, Applesauce and Toast). Other than that right now, he

likes eggs and popsicles. It's hard for me to get him to eat alot of variety and

quantity. Usually, he eats everything and anything! Thanks, as always, for your

imput.

[Guest guest]

Molly,

I found " Culturelle " a pro-biotic at Walgreens drug store. It is

10mil cells of lactobacillus and will help with the stomach issues.

We gave it to Sam when he contracted Rotavirus last March. If you

break the capsules open and pour the cultures into yogurt or

applesauce it is tasteless - just do not put it into anything hot

(like oatmeal). Hopea ll is better soon!

Barb R.

On Sep 12, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Mom2lfm@... wrote:

>

> Molly,

>

> Viral infections don't respond to anti-biotics so I think your

> doctor was right.? How old is Ben?? When my son was little he got

> some really terrible stomach bugs.? One of my pediatricians gave me

> his mother's remedy for diarreha and it was the only thing that

> worked.? Cook up some rice with extra water.? After 20 minutes pour

> the extra water into a cup and cool it.? I had to sweeten it to get

> Liam to drink it, but taking an once or two every hour did the

> trick.? Liam was getting so dehydrated he almost had to be

> hospitalized, but this rice water worked.?

>

> Kathy, Liam's mom (11)

>

> (unknown)

>

> , sorry to hear about your situation. My son Ben has stayed

> home all week, and missed more school this year, than days that he's

> been at school. He was diagnosed with an upper respiratory infection

> and stomach virus. He has had fever every night for the past two

> weeks. The Dr.'s won's give him any antibiotics. (How does an

> infection go away without it?) We went to a new pediatrician's

> office today and saw a fill-in Dr., who said that this is his 1st

> and only time to be there. Why not give him the simple colds and

> cough, rash cases, not the complex cases. I thought that the front

> office pre-screens patients cause for coming in. (What is there job

> anyway?) The fill-in Doc said that he wanted us to come back in a

> week to see the regular Dr. Meanwhile, I could almost bet that he'll

> have fever for another week, until Tuesay, and a few days after that

> for the medicine that I pray the regular new Dr. will give us and

> for it to work. Can anyone

> please share their experiences with irritated small intestines? Ben

> is on the BRAT diet (Bananas, Rice, Applesauce and Toast). Other

> than that right now, he likes eggs and popsicles. It's hard for me

> to get him to eat alot of variety and quantity. Usually, he eats

> everything and anything! Thanks, as always, for your imput.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Ana (17) has also been out of school since it began on Sept 2; she only went

twice so far, due to diarrhea problems.  It is not that she has to go to the

bathroom every hour, but I prefer to keep her at home when she has this

problems.

I cannot keep Ana strickly on the BRAT diet, but try to, also I'm trying the

rice water,   I don't like to use " Immodium " , only in extreme cases.   I am also

giving her thick soup made of carrots and potatoes, with toasts for I read that

the very liquid bouillon are not recommended (as it was before).

I usually give Ana " Enterol " ( saccharomyces boulardii liophilise) which is

against diarrhea, but don't know if you find this in the USA.

I also went to the doctor (family doctor) and she did not want to give me the

order to get a lab test for parasites, she is sure is not this.  It seems like

there is a virus going around at this moment; several children are sick.  And to

get antibiotics is another story; the Belgian health care system limits doctors

to prescribe them, and if they do, they give you the generic type.

Hope everyone gets better!

Bonnie

--- El dom 13-sep-09, Barbara Rizk <rizk22@...> escribió:

De:: Barbara Rizk <rizk22@...>

Asunto: Re: (unknown)

A: Mom2lfm@...

Cc: mmikulenka@...,

Fecha: domingo 13 de septiembre de 2009, 1:38

 

Molly,

I found " Culturelle " a pro-biotic at Walgreens drug store. It is

10mil cells of lactobacillus and will help with the stomach issues.

We gave it to Sam when he contracted Rotavirus last March. If you

break the capsules open and pour the cultures into yogurt or

applesauce it is tasteless - just do not put it into anything hot

(like oatmeal). Hopea ll is better soon!

Barb R.

On Sep 12, 2009, at 3:32 PM, Mom2lfmaol (DOT) com wrote:

>

> Molly,

>

> Viral infections don't respond to anti-biotics so I think your

> doctor was right.? How old is Ben?? When my son was little he got

> some really terrible stomach bugs.? One of my pediatricians gave me

> his mother's remedy for diarreha and it was the only thing that

> worked.? Cook up some rice with extra water.? After 20 minutes pour

> the extra water into a cup and cool it.? I had to sweeten it to get

> Liam to drink it, but taking an once or two every hour did the

> trick.? Liam was getting so dehydrated he almost had to be

> hospitalized, but this rice water worked.?

>

> Kathy, Liam's mom (11)

>

> (unknown)

>

> , sorry to hear about your situation. My son Ben has stayed

> home all week, and missed more school this year, than days that he's

> been at school. He was diagnosed with an upper respiratory infection

> and stomach virus. He has had fever every night for the past two

> weeks. The Dr.'s won's give him any antibiotics. (How does an

> infection go away without it?) We went to a new pediatrician' s

> office today and saw a fill-in Dr., who said that this is his 1st

> and only time to be there. Why not give him the simple colds and

> cough, rash cases, not the complex cases. I thought that the front

> office pre-screens patients cause for coming in. (What is there job

> anyway?) The fill-in Doc said that he wanted us to come back in a

> week to see the regular Dr. Meanwhile, I could almost bet that he'll

> have fever for another week, until Tuesay, and a few days after that

> for the medicine that I pray the regular new Dr. will give us and

> for it to work. Can anyone

> please share their experiences with irritated small intestines? Ben

> is on the BRAT diet (Bananas, Rice, Applesauce and Toast). Other

> than that right now, he likes eggs and popsicles. It's hard for me

> to get him to eat alot of variety and quantity. Usually, he eats

> everything and anything! Thanks, as always, for your imput.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was told applesauce is very effective because it contains pectin which absorbs

water.  When Liam was going through his constipation phase we had to avoid it.

Kathy, Liam's mom

(unknown)

>

> , sorry to hear about your situation. My son Ben has stayed

> home all week, and missed more school this year, than days that he's

> been at school. He was diagnosed with an upper respiratory infection

> and stomach virus. He has had fever every night for the past two

> weeks. The Dr.'s won's give him any antibiotics. (How does an

> infection go away without it?) We went to a new pediatrician' s

> office today and saw a fill-in Dr., who said that this is his 1st

> and only time to be there. Why not give him the simple colds and

> cough, rash cases, not the complex cases. I thought that the front

> office pre-screens patients cause for coming in. (What is there job

> anyway?) The fill-in Doc said that he wanted us to come back in a

> week to see the regular Dr. Meanwhile, I could almost bet that he'll

> have fever for another week, until Tuesay, and a few days after that

> for the medicine that I pray the regular new Dr. will give us and

> for it to work. Can anyone

> please share their experiences with irritated small intestines? Ben

> is on the BRAT diet (Bananas, Rice, Applesauce and Toast). Other

> than that right now, he likes eggs and popsicles. It's hard for me

> to get him to eat alot of variety and quantity. Usually, he eats

> everything and anything! Thanks, as always, for your

imput.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Kathy for the tip!

I made applesauce  or (applemousse) today for Ana. I only had the " Jonagold "

kind, but it worked very good and  the taste was okay for Ana.  What kind of

apples do you usually use to make it?

Bonnie

--- El lun 14-sep-09, Mom2lfm@... <Mom2lfm@...> escribió:

De:: Mom2lfm@... <Mom2lfm@...>

Asunto: Re: (unknown)

A: bonniand@..., rizk22@...

Cc: mmikulenka@...,

Fecha: lunes 14 de septiembre de 2009, 0:10

 

I was told applesauce is very effective because it contains pectin which absorbs

water.  When Liam was going through his constipation phase we had to avoid it.

Kathy, Liam's mom

(unknown)

>

> , sorry to hear about your situation. My son Ben has stayed

> home all week, and missed more school this year, than days that he's

> been at school. He was diagnosed with an upper respiratory infection

> and stomach virus. He has had fever every night for the past two

> weeks. The Dr.'s won's give him any antibiotics. (How does an

> infection go away without it?) We went to a new pediatrician' s

> office today and saw a fill-in Dr., who said that this is his 1st

> and only time to be there. Why not give him the simple colds and

> cough, rash cases, not the complex cases. I thought that the front

> office pre-screens patients cause for coming in. (What is there job

> anyway?) The fill-in Doc said that he wanted us to come back in a

> week to see the regular Dr. Meanwhile, I could almost bet that he'll

> have fever for another week, until Tuesay, and a few days after that

> for the medicine that I pray the regular new Dr. will give us and

> for it to work. Can anyone

> please share their experiences with irritated small intestines? Ben

> is on the BRAT diet (Bananas, Rice, Applesauce and Toast). Other

> than that right now, he likes eggs and popsicles. It's hard for me

> to get him to eat alot of variety and quantity. Usually, he eats

> everything and anything! Thanks, as always, for your

imput.

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Both YOU, and DENISE need to moderate your body's excess acidity, in order

to re-gain control and diminish the symptoms from which you're suffering.

Dr. Dan, PhD Researcher

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 2:53 AM, jennifer song <jeni_song10@...>wrote:

>

>

> Hi ,

>

> I've read your post and i also suffer from allergies/chemical

> sensitivity similar to yours. It developed due to extreme stress and not

> geeting enough sleep, which led to a poor immune system, a hormonal

> imbalance, multiple fibroids, and chronic constipation. All these i think

> contribute to my chemical sensitivity because my body could not excrete the

> toxins due to its state. They just keep getting collected inside. Can you

> imagine deficating once a week at the most? So i guess to answer your

> question, it is caused by too much toxins and a confused immune system. This

> may sound generic, but we need to SERIOUSLY DETOXIFY. Now this has been my

> struggle. Determination is really needed. But its hard when you are

> surrounded by unsupportive beings who only want to make your life miserable

> to appreciate theirs . Well, that's another story. =)

>

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[Guest guest]

Well written, and you've stated your concerns, what needs to be done,

and why. It's completely reasonable, and they should have no trouble

fixing this problem :-) If they do................ well, you've already

requested the meeting. What I read is that you want him to use the

bathroom in a private setting so that he can get the assistance he

needs, without putting himself in danger of abuse and without the

possibility of being humiliated. That is certainly quite reasonable,

and it's really sad that you have to get this written into the IEP...

common sense. If the nurse's bathroom is too far, how about a teacher

bathroom.... are there any of those closer?

Good luck... I hate those frustrating nights when you are so mad about

the treatment of your child that you could just scream, and I'm glad

that it's morning and you can deliver your letter!

, mom to (13) (11 DS), and Sammy (10)

Kiersten wrote:

>

>

> I am copying a letter that I have just finished and plan to hand carry

> to my son's school in the morning, make that THIS morning. I have not

> had any sleep and am a bit ticked, to say the least.

>

> Please email me any feedback that comes to mind as you process what

> you read. Also, please let me know how toileting is handled with your

> special needs child. As some of you know, Alden is in grade 1 in an

> exclusive classroom that basically mainstreams, sort of. While the

> EPISD system says that it is working toward inclusion, they

> distinguish inclusion and full inclusion in writing. They call their

> program of special education a " system in progress " that has been

> working toward full inclusion for the last 10 years (how long is this

> going to take because they are FAR, FAR from any real inclusion with

> children like Alden!). If you have the time, google EPISD and look at

> their special education information. Any feedback is welcome. Thanks.

> Kiersten

>

> My letter with {names removed}:

>

> It has come to my attention that {my son}is using the student bathroom

> facilities with the teacher outside of the door and standing in the

> hallway. He is being coached to do his " business " from a distance due

> to the privacy needs of the other students. I understand that older

> children have been in the restroom at the same time as {my son}, and

> that on more than one occasion {my son} has left a stall with his

> pants down around his ankles. Mrs. {son's teacher} informed me that

> when she reminds {my son} to return to the stall to pull up his pants,

> he complies.

>

> This is not acceptable. {My son} should not be using facilities for

> toileting with the other non-disabled or disabled students. His

> disability affects multiple areas of difficulty in regards to toilet

> training. His low muscle tone effects digestion, bowel function, and

> thus training. His short arms make learning to physically and

> successfully pull his pants up and down a hit and miss adventure. His

> developmental stage makes him vulnerable to others and also could

> result in a bowel mess, if he is not assisted. At times, his pull-up

> may tear, which is what I found in his pants on the day that he

> " leaked " all over his clothes. Perhaps if he had had the proper

> assistance, his pull up could have been changed before it leaked. The

> age of 8 is the AVERAGE age of successful toilet training for children

> with Down Syndrome. He has not had early success, but he certainly is

> not late in this training, either.

>

> While it may seem inconvenient, he should be taken to the restroom on

> a semi-regular basis, in a private setting, with the teacher, nurse,

> or appropriate aid to assist him when necessary. He should NOT EVER be

> subjected to humiliation nor should he be set up in this way for

> future bullying, teasing, witnessing of inappropriate behavior, or

> molestation. It only takes a second for a child to be abused and this

> setting is NOT a safe environment for {my son}.

>

> I understand that the problem has come about due to the distance from

> the classroom or PE setting to the nurses' office and that the student

> bathroom facilities are closer. It is true that when we discussed

> placement for {my son}, we were assured that toileting would not be a

> problem as there was a bathroom in the classroom. Due to the classroom

> being moved to a room with no toileting facility in said classroom,

> apparently this procedure was thought to be appropriate. It is not

> appropriate, not only for {my son}, but also for ANY child with

> developmental delay. Other schools that I have observed have not even

> subjected 5th grade students with Down Syndrome to use the student

> facilities. The standard procedure in inclusive settings is a private

> setting, usually the nurses' office, to safeguard that student from

> harm or humiliation. If a parent should request their child be

> " included " in toileting as the other students, then that would be their

> decision along with the school. The educators and school system should

> already have safeguards in place for students with developmental delay

> regarding toileting, changing of clothes for gym (when appropriate),

> and any other situation in which such a child may be vulnerable.

>

> If another aid or paraprofessional needs to be brought on board in

> order to accommodate {my son's} toileting needs, then that needs to

> happen, ASAP. I am convinced, however, that a safe system could be

> implemented, as it has been in previous inclusive settings in which

> {my son} has attended, with a little bit of thought and scheduling. I

> am upset that trained professionals in the area of special education

> did not think this through and have put my son in this position. In

> the meantime, {my son} will be taken to the nurses' office on a

> regular basis starting immediately, and given the privacy that he

> deserves to learn this skill.

>

> This notice needs to be added to {my son's} current IEP. I am also

> requesting, at this time, that an ARD be scheduled ASAP.

>

> Thank you.

>

> Kiersten L. Newby

>

> CC {name}: Director of Special Education/EPISD

>

>