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I'm doing better than I expected on Savella. I've been taking it almost 3 months now. Not one side effect (yet).

Pam

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Help! What's the deal on Savella?

MIMI

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Hi Angelo, thank you.

I understand this, but if it helps heal me, Im game.

love

don in ks

From: Angelo <tommybad238@...>Subject: [ ] (unknown) Date: Wednesday, September 16, 2009, 10:08 PM

would like to wait on TX for the new replication inhibito rs comming out of clinical trials, and awaiting AMA approval, [next year???].They sound sooooo much better than todays TX.

He Don, the new meds that will be coming out will be added to the old meds so you still have to take the old shit to.

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AngeloThey are the ones that I'm on the Clinical Trial with right now. Yes, they are simply added to the old shit for about the first 3 monthsGloria

would like to wait on TX for the new replication inhibito rs comming out of clinical trials, and awaiting AMA approval, [next year???].They sound sooooo much better than todays TX.He Don, the new meds that will be coming out will be added to the old meds so you still have to take the old shit to.

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yes, but neither are complete proteins so they would not create as high of a protien density as soy or cow's milk would.

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Theodore <allison_theodore@...> wrote:

 

you can possibly mix protein with rice dream or almond milk??  R. Scheckner Bariatric Nutrition Specialist

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You don't have to go back to synthetics Laurie. Just get a compounded desiccated thyroid. www.womensinternational.com can do it for you.

Steph

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Hi, Gracia:

I am taking Westhroid and have been for several years, but will have to go back to Synthroid due to shortage of Westhroid and until it's back in stock in mid November. I do take adrenal support. I also use natural progesterone cream and take 7 keto DHEA.

laurie

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Doesn't need to be, but biotin is helpful for yeast. I read that biotin makes

the gut more hospitable to " good " bacteria, thus giving your probiotics a good

home and help them " stick " a little better.

TJ

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Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 8:42:20 PM

Subject: [ ] (unknown)

 

Should GSE always be given with Biotin?

jennifer

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Are you talking about the lymeaid for kids? If so, I'm really sorry, I didn't

know. What a shame.

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Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:50:18 AM

Subject: [ ] (unknown)

 

I have tried to use this and have been told for the last TWO years they are out

of funds.  Calls and emails to them have never  been returned,.

 

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Welcome to the group. I'm sure you'll find others here who can talk with you

about your situation.

What shall we call you?

I, also, have fatty liver.? Mine is the result of long-term Prednisone use, as I

understand it. I had autoimmune hepatitis (AIH) for several years; it's now in

remission.

I, like you, am trying to figure out how best to treat it. Weight loss is

usually advised, but even very thin people have fatty liver, so . . .

I'll see another doctor Monday; perhaps I'll learn something then that will be

of use to both of us.

Harper

AIH dx 2000

San Francisco

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HI

I am not familiar with all the medical terms yet. I have fatty liver disease. I

had my gallbladder removed 20 plus years ago and was very jaundiced then. I had

stones stuck in my bile duct. I am not sure if this has caused my fatty liver

disease or not

I am hoping to learn the terminology as well as how to keep my disease from

progressing any further.

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Any help you can give me will be greatly appreciated.

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Enough iodine will counter balance the goitrogens. You have to eat a lot to be goitrogenic according to Dr. Brownstein - more than most will eat in a day.

Steph

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Are the beets juiced raw or cooked? What about the organic beet juice which can be purchased- would that be as good ? I have read that raw beets are goitrogenic and harmful to the thyroid.Thanks, Sylvia

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Beets are excellent for detoxing the liver.

Cyndi

Enough iodine will counter balance the goitrogens. You have to eat a lot to be goitrogenic according to Dr. Brownstein - more than most will eat in a day.

Steph

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Are the beets juiced raw or cooked? What about the organic beet juice which can be purchased- would that be as good ? I have read that raw beets are goitrogenic and harmful to the thyroid.

Thanks, Sylvia

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I agree with this but it will be difficult. The idea that people should

be entitled to define whether or not they have a disorder is attractive

but tricky. A person with a disability should be a person with a

problem. If there is no problem (self-perceived or otherwise) then there

is no disability, I think

Some people we do not allow to self-define but compulsorily medicate

(psychotics, paranoid schizophrenics etc) but Asperger's people are not

like this, there is no medication and they are very worried about

compulsory treatment.

I think the spectrum idea was useful but is now causing confusion. In

the UK it is causing lots of weird thinking with the idea of

" undiagnosed autistics " . So the spectrum seems to be widening to include

everyone who seems (or feels themselves to be) a bit odd. Since we are

all a bit odd, it will soon include everyone.

Sally

HaroldL Doherty wrote:

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>

>

> Redefining Autism: Should the Autism " Spectrum " Concept be

> Abandoned?

>

<http://autisminnb.blogspot.com/2009/09/redefining-autism-should-autism.html>

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> Should the concept of an autism " /*spectrum*/ " of disorders be abandoned?

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> The DSM III originally included strict criteria for Kanner's infantile

> autism. These strict criteria were relaxed in the */DSM III-R

>

<http://journals.lww.com/jaacap/Abstract/1990/01000/DSM_III_and_DSM_III_R_Diagno\

sis_of_Autism_and.19.aspx>/* which

> " /broadened the concept of autism to include children who, although

> socially impaired, are not pervasively unresponsive to others(*1

>

<http://journals.lww.com/jaacap/Abstract/1990/01000/DSM_III_and_DSM_III_R_Diagno\

sis_of_Autism_and.19.aspx>*)/ " .

> Another huge expansion took place with the */DSM IV

> <http://www.geocities.com/autismandpdd/thinking.htm>/* inclusion of

> Asperger Disorder in the Pervasive Development Disorders category:

> " /Asperger Disorder is characterized by the same types of social

> impairments seen in autism plus the development of very bizarre

> intense interests such as bus timetables, insects, meteorology,

> cartography, etc. It is distinguished from autism by the presence of

> normal cognitive development and the absence of clinically significant

> language delay. In other words, children with Asperger Disorder have

> normal IQ and usually are speaking in phrases by three years of

> age.(*2 <http://www.geocities.com/autismandpdd/thinking.htm>*) " /

>

> The PDD's have in common usage become referred to as Autism Spectrum

> Disorders and from there it has become common to refer to all forms of

> PDD's as " Autism " . The expansion of the autism " spectrum " has been

> cited each time an increase in rates of autism diagnoses is reported.

> When my son was initially diagnosed in 1998 the figure of 1 in 500

> persons having " autism " was commonly cited, then 1 in 250, 1 in 166,

> then 1 in 150 and soon the CDC is expected to fall in line with the UK

> figure of 1 in 100. Each time the estimate changes the expansion of

> the criteria for defining " autism " is trotted out to argue against the

> existence of a real increase in autism.

>

> ......

>

> Maybe it is time to abandon the Autism " Spectrum " and establish two

> separate categories with Autistic Disorder comprising classic autism

> while HFA and Aspergers Disorder are placed together in one category

> .... Aspergers Disorder.

>

> Or perhaps a better solution to the Autism Spectrum confusion would be

> to abandon the spectrum concept altogether by removing HFA and

> Asperger Disorder from the DSM leaving only Autistic Disorder as a

> category for those with severe or low functioning autism. Many persons

> with HFA and Aspergers argue that they do not have a medical disorder

> at all. Maybe it is time to acknowledge their arguments, remove

> Asperger Disorder from the DSM, and go back to the DSM III criteria

> for Infantile Autism or Autistic Disorder.

>

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Hi angel, USP powder being short is due to the increased demand for dessicated thyroid meds- they just can't use any old pig! Setting upincreased approved 'clean' breeding facilities cannot be done overnight. thyroid treatment From: angel47572000@...Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 14:03:14 +0000Subject: (unknown)

Hi Sheila, Shoman says there is a problem with the new formula because of the amount of celluse filling" is to much and this is why patients are having a problem absorbing them.not sure of the amount. also this is why the fda is kicking up a fuss as this makes them a new drug which have not been approved.! When patients change to other brands this then causesa sortage , but don`t explain why the usp powder is surposed to be in short supply.!Angel.

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Hi

- the shortage of thyroid powder came about because American Laboratories

Inc. who manufacture the desiccated thyroid powder (amongst other products) for

distribution to the pharmaceutical companies who make the NDT tablets, had a

problem some time ago when it was found they were polluting the atmosphere with

some noxious substance - not from Armour. The FDA closed the who factory down

whilst they sorted out this problem which involved them being charged a very

substantial fine, and having to buy in new machinery so this problem couldn't

arise again. This meant that NDT powder became in short supply. This, coupled

with the changes in the formulae for Armour, and people refusing to buy it, the

intervention of the FDA requesting that it be licensed, the overburdening of

RLC labs with all those who wanted Nature Throid and Westhroid - Forest unable

to meet orders, and RLC being on back-order until end of November/December.

The porcine

thyroid glands that go into Armour Thyroid tablets are only derived from animals

that do go into the US food supply. If any animal is rejected from the

food supply, its thyroid gland would never get into our product.

Luv - Sheila

USP powder being short is due to the increased demand for dessicated thyroid

meds- they just can't use any old pig! Setting upincreased approved 'clean'

breeding facilities cannot be done overnight.

Hi Sheila, Shoman says there is a problem with the

new formula because of the amount of celluse filling " is to much and

this is why patients are having a problem absorbing them.

not sure of the amount. also this is why the fda is kicking up a fuss as this

makes them a new drug which have not been approved.! When patients change to

other brands this then causes

a sortage , but don`t explain why the usp powder is surposed to be in short

supply.!

Angel.

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DO NOT GO TO THIS LINK!  It is a huge security problem and it can d/l a virus to your computer.I already told about this but she's keep spamming everyone with it anyway.I'm not sure why she's sending everyone to a Canadian pharmacy, she admitted she did not even know what the link was.

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HUH!?!

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(UK)

A.B.A.L.T.A.T.

" Any, LEGAL, topic which other groups would consider Off-Topic. "

http://uk./group/ABALTAT/

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From: Naomi Moschgat <nsmoschgat@...>

" kombucha tea " <kombucha tea >

Sent: Thursday, 1 October, 2009 15:49:46

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HUH!?!

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(UK)

A.B.A.L.T.A.T.

" Any, LEGAL, topic which other groups would consider Off-Topic. "

http://uk./group/ABALTAT/

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From: Naomi Moschgat <nsmoschgat@...>

" kombucha tea " <kombucha tea >

Sent: Thursday, 1 October, 2009 15:49:46

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LOL, the case of the iPhone that came to life. :-D

Kane wrote:

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> " kombucha tea " <kombucha tea >

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LOL, the case of the iPhone that came to life. :-D

Kane wrote:

> HUH!?!

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> (UK)

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> " Any, LEGAL, topic which other groups would consider Off-Topic. "

> http://uk./group/ABALTAT/

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> From: Naomi Moschgat <nsmoschgat@...>

> " kombucha tea " <kombucha tea >

> Sent: Thursday, 1 October, 2009 15:49:46

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[Guest guest]

Yeah, the trial pays for all the procedures that are not " customary care " for

CML. I didn't get the option of the money towards expenses, but hey I'll take

the great results and feeling good.

Heaven knows we have had more echocardiograms than most and I doubt it is a

cheap procedure.

Beth

[ ] (unknown)

 

Hi, I forgot to tell you guys something.  I had an echocardiogram Mon. and the

gal doing the procedure told me the drug company was paying for this and be sure

medicare or AARP were not billed.  That is a first, I have been in 6 trials, in

9 years, and have never had a procedure paid for by the drug co. that I am aware

of.  Now if they would just pay for the bma/bmb, that would be nice!  Ariad

also paid $1000.00 towards expenses, that was pretty nice too.

a (Bobby) Doyle Brecksville, Ohio, USA DX 05/1995 02/2000 - Gleevec

Trial/OHSU 06/2002 - Gleevec/Trisenox Trial/OHSU 06/2003 - Gleevec/Zarnestra

Trial/OHSU 04/2004 - Sprycel Trial/MDACC, CCR in 10 months #840  -   Zavie's

Zero Club 09/2006 -  out of CCR 04/29/08 - XL228 trial/U of Michigan

01/09/ - PCR 5.69

02/13/09 - XL228 trial ended due to side effects

o4/13/09 - Ariad Trial U of Michigan

09/09/09 - PCR 0.017

04/13/09 - Ariad trial at U. of Michigan

09/09/09 - PCR 0.017

04/13/09 - Ariad trial, U. of Michigan

09/08/09 - PCR 0.017

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Do NOT click on this link. Its a reported attack site.

zoe

Kathi Linden wrote:

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This is listed as " An attack site "

http://www.glws.net/O5zaT48Q10.html

GO YE NOT

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From: Kathi Linden <ferretluvr2000@...>

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And so say most of us. My set up, if clicked takes me to adark crimson sight

Warning it is an attack site and two buttons

" Get me out of here "

and

" Why is it listed? "

If any-one hasn't that facility the link below will tell you WHY NOT TO GO to

it

The info is too long to copy and paste.

http://safebrowsing.clients.google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?client=Firefox & hl\

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(UK)

A.B.A.L.T.A.T.

" Any, LEGAL, topic which other groups would consider Off-Topic. "

http://uk./group/ABALTAT/

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kombucha tea

Sent: Friday, 2 October, 2009 8:04:03

Subject: Re: (unknown)

Do NOT click on this link. Its a reported attack site.

zoe

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Thank God I live in a town it is illegal to fly over. Some yrs ago it was discovered they planned to release some kind of pathogen over white Rock about ten miles away. But Joyce Riley came and the residents had a big meeting and they got the spraying stopped some how.AnnSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Gloria Winters <gwnjxn@...>Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:49:13 -0700 (PDT)<no-forced-vaccination >Subject: (unknown) Does ANYONE besides me realize that WE ARE BEING SPRAYED withthese viruses by the very villians who are wanting to inject us? THEY give us the disease, then they want to vacinate us (against) something that THEY gave us! STOP the spraying and there will be no flu at all! Love,Gloria

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Thank God I live in a town it is illegal to fly over. Some yrs ago it was discovered they planned to release some kind of pathogen over white Rock about ten miles away. But Joyce Riley came and the residents had a big meeting and they got the spraying stopped some how.AnnSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Gloria Winters <gwnjxn@...>Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:49:13 -0700 (PDT)<no-forced-vaccination >Subject: (unknown) Does ANYONE besides me realize that WE ARE BEING SPRAYED withthese viruses by the very villians who are wanting to inject us? THEY give us the disease, then they want to vacinate us (against) something that THEY gave us! STOP the spraying and there will be no flu at all! Love,Gloria

[Guest guest]

Thank God I live in a town it is illegal to fly over. Some yrs ago it was discovered they planned to release some kind of pathogen over white Rock about ten miles away. But Joyce Riley came and the residents had a big meeting and they got the spraying stopped some how.AnnSent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Gloria Winters <gwnjxn@...>Date: Sun, 4 Oct 2009 07:49:13 -0700 (PDT)<no-forced-vaccination >Subject: (unknown) Does ANYONE besides me realize that WE ARE BEING SPRAYED withthese viruses by the very villians who are wanting to inject us? THEY give us the disease, then they want to vacinate us (against) something that THEY gave us! STOP the spraying and there will be no flu at all! Love,Gloria