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Sending healing thoughts!On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 4:38 PM, From Jen <volleyjen0416@...> wrote:

The other day

my mom felt something pop in her lower back. Her Dr. just got her CT

scan back and she has 4 herniated discs in her back, POOR MOM!

Please

say a prayer for her that she will heal FAST!

Thanks, 

                    

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Thanks! Jen

The other day

my mom felt something pop in her lower back. Her Dr. just got her CT

scan back and she has 4 herniated discs in her back, POOR MOM!

Please

say a prayer for her that she will heal FAST!

Thanks,

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From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>iodine Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 3:02:17 PMSubject: Re: (unknown)

My root canal had to be "redone" before I had treatment for thyroid cancer. It is gone now.. I had necrosis of the jaw and black sludge under the tooth when my dentist removed it.

Steph

(unknown)

All of your symptoms are not only indicitive of thyroid issues but they are also a precursor to breast cancer. There was a study done in Sweden that proved root canals continue to produce bacteria and can lead to breast cancer! Coincidentaly I was diagnosed with breast cancer 3 1/2 years after a root canal. Of course there were all of the other symptoms and others similar to yours. The good news--they are reversable! You can heal the body before you end up with full blown cancer. Iodine is great--check out breastcancerchoices .org for a wealth of information. I am doing all of the iodine protocals and am about to start chemo. I believe I am going to be ok afterwards because of all of the wonderful info shared on this group and the other site. also, Dr. Derry has a great book on Breast Cancer & Iodine.

Best of luck to you!

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Isn't it great to feel empowered rather than at the mercy of the system? I too have a history of BC and between the iodine protocol, nutritional supplements and clean eating I feel as if I can take control of my health. Knowledge and people willing to share it are a wonderful thing!

BarbF

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I believe I am going to be ok afterwards because of all of the wonderful info shared on this group and the other site. also, Dr. Derry has a great book on Breast Cancer & Iodine.

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Yikes, Jen! Is she in pain or is she ok now? I think that sometimes herniations do not cause pain unless they press on a nerve. One of my co-workers has a herniation that doesn't cause any problems - and I think many have herniations without showing symptoms.

I hope she isn't in pain and that if she is she feels better soon!Donna

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The other day my mom felt something pop in her lower back. Her Dr. just got her CT scan back and she has 4 herniated discs in her back, POOR MOM!

Please say a prayer for her that she will heal FAST!

Thanks,

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Hi Steph,

Were you taking iodine at or before the time you had your tooth extracted? If

you were not taking iodine, do you have any evidence/indications/beliefs that

taking iodine might inhibit/reduce/prevent infection in root structures of

compromised teeth?

-Lloyd

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>

>

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> ________________________________

> From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>

> iodine

> Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 3:02:17 PM

> Subject: Re: (unknown)

>

>  

> My root canal had to be " redone " before I had treatment for thyroid cancer. 

It is gone now.  I had necrosis of the jaw and black sludge under the tooth

when my dentist removed it.

>  

> Steph

>

> (unknown)

> >

> > 

> >All of your symptoms are not only indicitive of thyroid issues but they are

also a precursor to breast cancer.  There was a study done in Sweden that

proved root canals continue to produce bacteria and can lead to breast cancer! 

Coincidentaly I was diagnosed with breast cancer 3 1/2 years after a

root canal.  Of course there were all of the other symptoms and others similar

to yours.  The good news--they are reversable!  You can heal the body before

you end up with full blown cancer.  Iodine is great--check out

breastcancerchoices .org for a wealth of information.  I am doing all of the

iodine protocals and am about to start chemo.  I believe I am going to be ok

afterwards because of all of the wonderful info shared on this group and the

other site.  also, Dr. Derry has a great book on Breast Cancer & Iodine.

> >

> >Best of luck to you!

> >

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Hi Steph,

Were you taking iodine at or before the time you had your tooth extracted? If

you were not taking iodine, do you have any evidence/indications/beliefs that

taking iodine might inhibit/reduce/prevent infection in root structures of

compromised teeth?

-Lloyd

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>

> iodine

> Sent: Tue, November 24, 2009 3:02:17 PM

> Subject: Re: (unknown)

>

>  

> My root canal had to be " redone " before I had treatment for thyroid cancer. 

It is gone now.  I had necrosis of the jaw and black sludge under the tooth

when my dentist removed it.

>  

> Steph

>

> (unknown)

> >

> > 

> >All of your symptoms are not only indicitive of thyroid issues but they are

also a precursor to breast cancer.  There was a study done in Sweden that

proved root canals continue to produce bacteria and can lead to breast cancer! 

Coincidentaly I was diagnosed with breast cancer 3 1/2 years after a

root canal.  Of course there were all of the other symptoms and others similar

to yours.  The good news--they are reversable!  You can heal the body before

you end up with full blown cancer.  Iodine is great--check out

breastcancerchoices .org for a wealth of information.  I am doing all of the

iodine protocals and am about to start chemo.  I believe I am going to be ok

afterwards because of all of the wonderful info shared on this group and the

other site.  also, Dr. Derry has a great book on Breast Cancer & Iodine.

> >

> >Best of luck to you!

> >

> >

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No I had been told to stay away from Iodine because I was allergic to shellfish. This was Jan 2000. I didn't meet / start seeing Dr. Brownstein until Feb 2006. That is when I started taking Iodoral (50 mgs). I took the 50 mgs for 5 mos prior to removing the tooth and there was still a large infection under it so I don't think it did much for my root canal.

Steph

(unknown)> >> > > >All of your symptoms are not only indicitive of thyroid issues but they are also a precursor to breast cancer. There was a study done in Sweden that proved root canals continue to produce bacteria and can lead to breast cancer! Coincidentaly I was diagnosed with breast cancer 3 1/2 years after a root canal. Of course there were all of the other symptoms and others similar to yours. The good news--they are reversable! You can heal the body before you end up with full blown cancer. Iodine is great--check out breastcancerchoices .org for a wealth of information. I am doing all of the iodine protocals and am about to start chemo. I believe I am going to be ok afterwards because of all of the wonderful info shared on this group and the other site. also, Dr. Derry has a great book on Breast Cancer & Iodine.> >> >Best of luck to you!> > > >>

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HUGS! I’ve done the herniated disc thing and it is

not fun. Mine was in my upper back (T3 and T4) and it was horrible, so I

can only imagine how much harder it must be to move with it in the lower back

where you have all your support come from. Tell her to stretch and to the

physical therapy they recommend. The only thing that helped mine was

stretching and elongating the spine so that the pressure was lifted from the

discs. A lot of the PT exercises were similar to pilates and yoga, but

specific to that area. I liked it so much I ended up getting pilates and

yoga certified so I could teach them regularly. ;) Another thing that

helped me is massage therapy, but only because I had a medical massage

therapist. She did things specifically for my issues and not just a

typical relaxation massage.

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The other day my mom felt something pop in her lower back. Her Dr. just

got her CT scan back and she has 4 herniated discs in her back, POOR MOM!

Please say a prayer for her that she will heal FAST!

Thanks,

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Steph,

What made you want to have your root canal done? Was it painful or

something? Or a prerequisite of treatment?

From: Jo Rueber <sandcandice@...>Subject: Re: (unknown)iodine Date: Wednesday, 25 November, 2009, 5:33

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@ sbcglobal. net>iodinegroups (DOT) comSent: Tue, November 24, 2009 3:02:17 PMSubject: Re: (unknown)

My root canal had to be "redone" before I had treatment for thyroid cancer. It is gone now.. I had necrosis of the jaw and black sludge under the tooth when my dentist removed it.

Steph

(unknown)

All of your symptoms are not only indicitive of thyroid issues but they are also a precursor to breast cancer. There was a study done in Sweden that proved root canals continue to produce bacteria and can lead to breast cancer! Coincidentaly I was diagnosed with breast cancer 3 1/2 years after a root canal. Of course there were all of the other symptoms and others similar to yours. The good news--they are reversable! You can heal the body before you end up with full blown cancer. Iodine is great--check out breastcancerchoices .org for a wealth of information. I am doing all of the iodine protocals and am about to start chemo. I believe I am going to be ok afterwards because of all of the wonderful info shared on this group and the other site. also, Dr. Derry has a great book on Breast Cancer & Iodine.

Best of luck to you!

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I had the root canal originally done when I was about 25 yrs old. My uncle who was my dentist told me that I needed it. I can't remember what brought me to that point - I am 44 yrs old now so that was a long time ago. But I trusted him (first mistake) that I should do it. The reason I had it re-done was that it became abcessed. I had to do it or I could not have thyroid surgery to remove my cancerous thyroid - second mistake.

Steph

(unknown)

All of your symptoms are not only indicitive of thyroid issues but they are also a precursor to breast cancer. There was a study done in Sweden that proved root canals continue to produce bacteria and can lead to breast cancer! Coincidentaly I was diagnosed with breast cancer 3 1/2 years after a root canal. Of course there were all of the other symptoms and others similar to yours. The good news--they are reversable! You can heal the body before you end up with full blown cancer. Iodine is great--check out breastcancerchoices .org for a wealth of information. I am doing all of the iodine protocals and am about to start chemo. I believe I am going to be ok afterwards because of all of the wonderful info shared on this group and the other site. also, Dr. Derry has a great book on Breast Cancer & Iodine.

Best of luck to you!

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Hi Peggy:  You are not dumping on anyone.  Thanksgiving Day is the perfect day

to take the time to give Thanks for whatever we are going through because we are

here to go through it.  There is a reason why you are here to help your son

achieve the best he can with his CML.  I will pray that his PCR results are

good, and that  he continues to be able to fight this battle.  May God Bless

You Also with all you have to endure with your own health issues.

     You wonder sometimes how you do what you do, but we get through it.

Take One Day At A Time.  Make Your Thanksgiving a Very Happy One.

A.

From: Peggy Bieber <peggybieber@...>

Subject: [ ] (unknown)

Date: Wednesday, November 25, 2009, 2:37 PM

 

hello group,

    pat is my son so i am his guardian and he is living with me. he has the

mentality of a 14 year old and has a hard time dealing with the cml. his dad

really doesn't get it either his sister has her own issues to deal with as a

single mother of an 18 month old boy and school . it leaves it up to me to cope

with pat and his many problems,i am 61 with many serious health issues of my own

and pat is only 38 so i worry who will care for him when i am no longer able

to.sometimes i feel  this group is the only bunch of people who understand . we

are waiting for the results for pats first pcr results so maybe this is why i

feel so blue. sorry to dummp on everyone the day before thanksgiving.   

peggy

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When she first felt a pop in her back when she bent over to pick up something she was in A LOT of pain. Now it is better but still hurts. She really needs to take it easy more but it's hard to her down. She has 4 herniated discs. Jen

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The other day my mom felt something pop in her lower back. Her Dr. just got her CT scan back and she has 4 herniated discs in her back, POOR MOM!

Please say a prayer for her that she will heal FAST!

Thanks,

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So abcessed. Of course one doesn't know what's going on underneath until it

reaches a point where its visible(abcessed). I have quite a few root canals. Am wondering

what to do for the best? None are abcessed but they may be causing problems without

me being aware of it.

david

From: Jo Rueber <sandcandice>Subject: Re: (unknown)iodinegroups (DOT) comDate: Wednesday, 25 November, 2009, 5:33

From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@ sbcglobal. net>iodinegroups (DOT) comSent: Tue, November 24, 2009 3:02:17 PMSubject: Re: (unknown)

My root canal had to be "redone" before I had treatment for thyroid cancer. It is gone now.. I had necrosis of the jaw and black sludge under the tooth when my dentist removed it.

Steph

(unknown)

All of your symptoms are not only indicitive of thyroid issues but they are also a precursor to breast cancer. There was a study done in Sweden that proved root canals continue to produce bacteria and can lead to breast cancer! Coincidentaly I was diagnosed with breast cancer 3 1/2 years after a root canal. Of course there were all of the other symptoms and others similar to yours. The good news--they are reversable! You can heal the body before you end up with full blown cancer. Iodine is great--check out breastcancerchoices .org for a wealth of information. I am doing all of the iodine protocals and am about to start chemo. I believe I am going to be ok afterwards because of all of the wonderful info shared on this group and the other site. also, Dr. Derry has a great book on Breast Cancer & Iodine.

Best of luck to you!

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Hi Angel,

Does that mean I could still have Hashi's even with 1 antibody? I get so confused I don't always understand peoples post's and feel as though I haven't got a proper diagnosis from my endo now.I had pre-eclampsia with both my children and ended up in hospital on many occasions because of it.When pregnant with my daughter,my blood count dropped so much I was rushed to hospital and nearly died and nearly lost my baby too.i had an emergency transfusion,but they only gave me enough blood to get by and told me I would make up the rest on my own! I also had severe post natal depression with both of them and ended up in a psychiatric hospital 3 times after I had my first and ended up having electric shock treatment several times.My post natal was so bad,I wanted to kill my baby and was not allowed to look after him on my own.After my second child,I was given progesterone suppositories.They

thought I would only need the lowest dose for a few days and ended up on the highest dose for the longest time possible before it damaged my bowel! I have been ill for so long,I wonder what the point of it all is.I'm having a bad day today,just keep crying and can't cope with anything,something that's probably common to all hypo's.Do you think I could still have Hashi's as I have been told on the forum I haven't.If not what do you think it would be?

Best wishes sharon

From: judith franklin <angel47572000@...>Subject: (unknown)thyroid treatment Date: Friday, November 27, 2009, 12:17 PM

Hi Sharon, usually auto-antibodies are high when most folks get diagnosed, but they can still be in the gland first killing the cells, then in the blood, but anyone with detectable amounts (3-20) or even 48. one doctor told his patient that this was negative.but any in the blood canhave hashimoto`s. but the ranges for most tests are to high and doctors misinterpret them.as they only get limited training in hypothyroidism or even auto-immune conditions for that matter. who is most defiantly got hashi`s with auto-antibodies and 3 miscarriages,pre-eclampsia, and two sons on the autistic spectrum. Angel.

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Hi Sharon, antibody levels are not constant- the attacks can come in waves- so sometimes you will get a high count and at other times it will be lower. T3 has a dramatic effect on mood- see http://www.drlowe.com and do a search on his site. I know the difference it makes from personal experience. This is a very complex subject and even the experts don't know everything! Subject: Re: (unknown)

Hi Angel,

Does that mean I could still have Hashi's even with 1 antibody? I have been ill for so long,I wonder what the point of it all is.I'm having a bad day today,just keep crying and can't cope with anything,something that's probably common to all hypo's.Do you think I could still have Hashi's as I have been told on the forum I haven't.If not what do you think it would be?

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Hi ,

So does that mean I do or do not have Hashi's? If Hashi's is diagnosed from high antibodies,then what is the diagnosis term for low antibodies,or does it even have a term?

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Hi Sharon, It means that you may have Hashi's- some say not if below 50 antibodies- others say any. It is the most common reason for hypo. The treatment is the same though. thyroid treatment From: sprog1967@...Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2009 03:50:24 -0800Subject: RE: (unknown)

Hi ,

So does that mean I do or do not have Hashi's? If Hashi's is diagnosed from high antibodies,then what is the diagnosis term for low antibodies,or does it even have a term?

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I gave you 4 years of my best advise and personal experience deena that took me 3 hours to write that you never bothered to acknowledge. Hope you find answers that you appreciate recieving.

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I gave you 4 years of my best advise and personal experience deena that took me 3 hours to write that you never bothered to acknowledge. Hope you find answers that you appreciate recieving.

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I gave you 4 years of my best advise and personal experience deena that took me 3 hours to write that you never bothered to acknowledge. Hope you find answers that you appreciate recieving.

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What is and EAV. I am assuming AK is applied kinesiology. Ann

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> There are several very effective treatments for interstital cystitis but the

> most important factor is food sensitivities. Check him however you choose;

> ELISA, EAV, AK, but this piece is critical. His symptoms will improve.

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What is and EAV. I am assuming AK is applied kinesiology. Ann

Goldeen

---- Chlebowski <chrischlebowski@...> wrote:

> There are several very effective treatments for interstital cystitis but the

> most important factor is food sensitivities. Check him however you choose;

> ELISA, EAV, AK, but this piece is critical. His symptoms will improve.

>

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> Chlebowski

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> Dr. Chlebowski

> drchrischlebowski.com

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