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Hi, Terry,

With lethal injection, all she will do is go to sleep.

I can never understand why the bleeding hearts object to this. Most of us are not going to die so peacefully when our time comes!

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anyways..the link didn't work, sorry.

Just go to my webpage and scroll down abit until you see the Weather Channel

thing. Its located under my picture. Type in Salt Lake City and it'll give

you the 10 day forecast. The weather looks gooooooooood.

Enjoy!

Craig.

www.craig-spoon.com

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I really think execution should be swift and justice served if it is to be done at all. Imprisonment of 12 years prior does not meet the criteria. Re: [ ] (unknown) Hi, Terry, With lethal injection, all she will do is go to sleep. I can never understand why the bleeding hearts object to this. Most of us are not going to die so peacefully when our time comes!

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Very warm to hot if I remember right and we do visit Utah, the home of my heart

and birth place often, but only in the summer, am not fond of driving in endless

months of snow since I grew up. Virtually no humidity in that very dry high

dessert country which makes even 85-90 or higher seem tolerable.

SLC is quite high in altitude and if anyone is used to living close to sea

level you will notice the air is a " bit thinner " especially if you try to over

do and try to run a marathon. You will also find the water is harder there. When

I was a kid I thought that was SOOO funny when people would talk about the " hard

water. " Probably most hotels have water softeners but you MAY notice you need a

bit more shampoo or toothpaste to foam up like you are used to.

Thunderstorms, while awe inspiring and beautiful (OK so beauty is in the eye of

the beholder) are not infrequent but unlike in Washington state where a rain

storm can last for hours to weeks on end, the clouds in Utah dump their water

and float on...... to Western Washington State where they take up permanent

residency!

People in Utah believe it gets cool in the evenings, but cool or your

perception of cool is subjective. I find it very comfortable at night there and

never wear a jacket or long sleeves but then here in WA it cools down to 45-50

even in the summer, good for sleeping but little else.

When my family moved from Utah the kids at school laughed at me because all I

talked about how things were done in Utah. They called me " Utah Brinton " and

silly me thought they were complimenting me! Oh my heck, I am getting excited

about my trip back to UTAH next week!

Am I right Utahites?

(unknown)

Hi, I have another question. I wonder what is the weather like in SLC? Is

it dry or humid? I went to weather.com and it said possible thunderstorms on

Thursday. Do you get a lot of rain in the summer? I live in California and we

have had no rain. Thanks again, Sincerely, Patti

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It's no different than servicemen getting killed in accidents over in Afghanistan, they are still casualties of the war. -dz-

WILLIAM A WALTKE <kbwaltke@...> wrote:

The tragedy we all hoped we would be spared has happened. Firefighters were traveling from Oregon

to come to Colorado there was an accident... 4 dead 7 injured last report. I know this is a reach

but they were traveling to help us fight this fire that she caused. Can anyone but me see the linear

path. Her actions have indeed now cause loss of life. How sad.

[ ] (unknown)

We had a forset fire start yesterday near Show Low northeastern Az, yesterday afternoon it was 6000 acers. This afternoon they say it has groun to 60,000 acers & is out of control. They have pulled the firefighters saying it is too dangerous for them. Not as bad as Denver. But in Phoenix looking towards the north east you can see the smoke. That it is about 150 miles away. There is sveral small towns in danger. We still have a smaller fire on the Utah Az Border. We are loosing a lot of our Fedral & State forest land this year & somer has just started. They should shut all of the forest land in the southwest untill we get some much needed rain. That would be much better then losing all of our forest & several small towns. It took several hunderd years to have it, bur only it takes a second to lose it all!

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Perhaps adrenal glandular would help? Contact Nutri-meds - recommended to

balance the thyroid - one needs the other

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I take Zoloft for post partum depression and take Elavil to help eliminate

some of my migraines.

~*~ Traci ~*~

Homeschooling mom of 7

http://traciscottage.com

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I have a friend who weaned herself off of

paxil. she did a candida cleanse and is

eating a primarily raw (75% raw food) diet.

Kathy

>

> Do any one of you take zoloft or paxil

for depression? Coz i was taking

> zoloft and paxil but i stopped them coz of

money. Those meds are good but

> too expensive somet hing like 50-70 xtra

dollars a month.

> I find they work by increasing the amount

of some neurochemicals in the

> brain, produced in low levels by those

suffering from endogenous depression

>

>

>

> carlos

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Congrats ! Glad to hear the good news about your teacher too.

Gail :-)

<< Hi all

I'll be responding to posts more and reading them

more. Hope that y'all are doing good. I'm doing

great, kindof sad. I finished my 112 hr and 10 min of

lab time working in the lab school at college. Did it

in 3 weeks. I can't belive I'm done- just have to go

to class on Tuesday morning.

PS I saw my teacher today when I was passing making

x-rox copy and she's doing ok. Thanks all.

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We've used several different forms of CST and the length of treatments and

frequency varied greatly between them. All were helpful for my son. The

most helpful was the one that did several visits in a row -- 3-5 days apart

-- then took longer breaks. The treatments ranged from 10-20 minutes.

Gaylen

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thanks

--- smilinggail@... wrote:

> Congrats ! Glad to hear the good news about

> your teacher too.

> Gail :-)

>

>

> << Hi all

>

> I'll be responding to posts more and reading them

> more. Hope that y'all are doing good. I'm doing

> great, kindof sad. I finished my 112 hr and 10 min

> of

> lab time working in the lab school at college. Did

> it

> in 3 weeks. I can't belive I'm done- just have to

> go

> to class on Tuesday morning.

>

>

>

> PS I saw my teacher today when I was passing making

> x-rox copy and she's doing ok. Thanks all.

> >>

>

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In a message dated 6/29/02 6:41:20 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

rads_81@... writes:

<< hi,

I was wondering if you could think of me. My glad is

swollen It's been like that since yesterday. Just

feels weird- like a bump on my thorat. Just hope that

it goes away within a few days, so I'm not worrying

about the worse yet.

>>

How are you ? Did you go to the doc? Prayers you feel better soon.

Gail :-)

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Get T3 (cytomel) or change meds to Armour. See www.thyroid.about.com for

discussion of meds. B vitamins also help and be sure to eat good fats like

olive oil, butter, flax oil, cod liver oil. Don't worry--you will be OK if

you get enough of the right medicine.

Gracia

> Hello everyone,

> I am new to the group.I need some advice.The type of job I have,I

> have to talk all day.I am hoarse all the time,I have trouble

> breathing.I get so fustrated while talking,because I know people have

> a hard time understanding me.I can't get mad at them,because I know

> they can't understand me. As soon as I know I have to talk to someone

> I feel like I am having a panic attack.My heart feels like it is

> going to jump out of my chest.I was diagnosed in March.I am currently

> taking synthroid.Please if any one can give me any tips please do.

>

>

>

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Hi Carmen, Where do you live?

-Pam B.

(unknown)

HELLO!

I AM LOOKING FOR A GOOD DOCTOR TO HELP ME WITH MY HYPERTHYROID THAT

DOES NOT PUSH ME TO RAI. I BEEN HYPER FOR 5 YEARS NOW & THE DOCTOR

SAID THAT THE PILLS I AM TAKING PTU ARE KILLING MY BLOOD CELLS THAT I

SHOULD GO TO RAI NOW. I READ THE STORY OF PAM BRISSE & I TRYING TO

USED THE DIET SHE SAID, BUT I WISH I COULD FIND A CRANIO-SACRAL

THEREAPY OR SOME GOOD THEREAPIST THAT COULD HELP ME. I WOULD

APPRECIATE IF SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME.

CARMEN

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Where are you located, Carmen? I have a friend who does cranio-sacral work. If you're not nearby, maybe he can give you some idea where to look.

Donna

(unknown)

HELLO!I AM LOOKING FOR A GOOD DOCTOR TO HELP ME WITH MY HYPERTHYROID THAT DOES NOT PUSH ME TO RAI. I BEEN HYPER FOR 5 YEARS NOW & THE DOCTOR SAID THAT THE PILLS I AM TAKING PTU ARE KILLING MY BLOOD CELLS THAT I SHOULD GO TO RAI NOW. I READ THE STORY OF PAM BRISSE & I TRYING TO USED THE DIET SHE SAID, BUT I WISH I COULD FIND A CRANIO-SACRAL THEREAPY OR SOME GOOD THEREAPIST THAT COULD HELP ME. I WOULD APPRECIATE IF SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME.CARMEN

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Dear AR,

It is my understanding that Keppra is a adjunctive therapy, which means it works

best in concert with another medication. Are you also taking another medication

with Keppra?

Best wishes,

Carrol

Ara Leigh <chibizlady@...> wrote:

My name is Ara. I have had partial epilepsy all my life, with never a

medication which would make them go away, never a nutirtional handling that

would work all the time. I heard about a new drug called Keppra two years ago.

I waited and I learned new things. I got advice from yogis and others about my

brain problem. There was still a problem in this one area of my brain that

would not go away. When I read the description of how Keppra works I knew it

was the one for me. It does exactly what I need. So, the neurologist gave it

to me, and it works for me. I am 45 years old and the cognitive problems the

partial sensory seizures caused me made my life a continuous disaster. Now I

have a new life. So, any of you with partial seizures who have not had any luck

with meds, check out Keppra, made by UCB Pharma of Belgium. Best, Ara

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Thank you so much for all your advice.I am sorry it has taken me a

few days to read your reply.I will take everything to heart.

ck1mojogirl

> Get T3 (cytomel) or change meds to Armour. See

www.thyroid.about.com for

> discussion of meds. B vitamins also help and be sure to eat good

fats like

> olive oil, butter, flax oil, cod liver oil. Don't worry--you will

be OK if

> you get enough of the right medicine.

> Gracia

>

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> Hi Carmen, Where do you live?

>

> -Pam B.

>

> (unknown)

>

>

> HELLO!

> I AM LOOKING FOR A GOOD DOCTOR TO HELP ME WITH MY HYPERTHYROID THAT

> DOES NOT PUSH ME TO RAI. I BEEN HYPER FOR 5 YEARS NOW & THE DOCTOR

> SAID THAT THE PILLS I AM TAKING PTU ARE KILLING MY BLOOD CELLS THAT

I

> SHOULD GO TO RAI NOW. I READ THE STORY OF PAM BRISSE & I TRYING TO

> USED THE DIET SHE SAID, BUT I WISH I COULD FIND A CRANIO-SACRAL

> THEREAPY OR SOME GOOD THEREAPIST THAT COULD HELP ME. I WOULD

> APPRECIATE IF SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME.

>

> CARMEN

>

>

> HELLO PAM:

I LIVE IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA.

CARMEN

>

>

>

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> Hi Carmen, Where do you live?

>

> -Pam B.

>

> (unknown)

>

>

> HELLO!

> I AM LOOKING FOR A GOOD DOCTOR TO HELP ME WITH MY HYPERTHYROID THAT

> DOES NOT PUSH ME TO RAI. I BEEN HYPER FOR 5 YEARS NOW & THE DOCTOR

> SAID THAT THE PILLS I AM TAKING PTU ARE KILLING MY BLOOD CELLS THAT

I

> SHOULD GO TO RAI NOW. I READ THE STORY OF PAM BRISSE & I TRYING TO

> USED THE DIET SHE SAID, BUT I WISH I COULD FIND A CRANIO-SACRAL

> THEREAPY OR SOME GOOD THEREAPIST THAT COULD HELP ME. I WOULD

> APPRECIATE IF SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME.

>

> CARMEN

>

> HELLO PAM:

I LIVE IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA.

CARMEN

>

>

>

>

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> Where are you located, Carmen? I have a friend who does cranio-

sacral work. If you're not nearby, maybe he can give you some idea

where to look.

>

> Donna

>

HELLO DONNA:

I LIVE IN ORLANDO, FLORIDA.

CARMEN

>

> (unknown)

>

>

> HELLO!

> I AM LOOKING FOR A GOOD DOCTOR TO HELP ME WITH MY HYPERTHYROID

THAT

> DOES NOT PUSH ME TO RAI. I BEEN HYPER FOR 5 YEARS NOW & THE

DOCTOR

> SAID THAT THE PILLS I AM TAKING PTU ARE KILLING MY BLOOD CELLS

THAT I

> SHOULD GO TO RAI NOW. I READ THE STORY OF PAM BRISSE & I TRYING

TO

> USED THE DIET SHE SAID, BUT I WISH I COULD FIND A CRANIO-SACRAL

> THEREAPY OR SOME GOOD THEREAPIST THAT COULD HELP ME. I WOULD

> APPRECIATE IF SOMEBODY COULD HELP ME.

>

> CARMEN

>

>

>

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Hi Carmen, I'm all the way across the country, so I can't do much except a

search on the web. Below are NDs, people that do Cranio Sacral, and some top

doc recommendations, so keep scrolling. I hope you find someone good.

Here is what I found for Naturopaths in your Orlando, you might find more

nearby here: http://www.naturopathic.org/:

Kirti Kalidas, MD, ND

Board Certified Internal Medicine & Naturopathic Medicine

6651 Vineland Road Siute 150

Orlando FL 32819

(407) 355 9246

www.drkalidas.com

Integrated Healthcare using Homeopathy, Botanicals, Nutritional Counseling,

I.V Nutrients, Chelation.

Visconti, ND

CENTER FOR NATURAL & INTEGRATIVE MEDICINE

6651 Vineland Road, Suite 150

Orlando, FL 32819

Phone: 800-985-5846

Email: docvisconti@...

Florida Naturopathic Physicians Association, Inc.

1517 E. Avenue

Orlando, FL 329801

407-896-7071

email: drg4health@...

www.flnp.org

President: , MD, NMD, PhD

email: bmiller@...

Chief Contact: R Geldner, ND, DC

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Here are people who do cranio sacral in Orlando (from

http://www.craniosacral.com/)

Christy 407 648-1791

CS Techniques Cert Applicant

Active Member ACSTA

CSI CSII

NMT1 NMT2 NMT3 NMT4 NMT5

HS1 HS2 HS3 HS4 HS5

Tammy Dippenworth R.N. 407 851-8682

CS Techniques Cert Applicant

Active Member ACSTA

CSI CSII SERI

Lucas 321 662-1108

Medallion Member IAHP

CSI

Lynn Mace- L.M.T. 407 896-7080

Medallion Member IAHP

CSI CSII SERI SERII VMIA

VMIA LDT1 LDT2 Asst:SC

Wes Maillard L.M.T. 407 568-5090

CS Techniques Cert Applicant

Active Member ACSTA

CSI CSII SERI SERII ADV

Terrie Murray LMT, CNMT 407 841-6595

CS Techniques Cert Applicant

Active Member ACSTA

CSI CSII

SYMU NMT Center Certified

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Here are the " good " Orlando Endos in Orlando, according to thyroid top tocs

(http://thyroid.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.thyro

id-info.com%2Ftopdocs.htm):

Orlando

Dr. Hall, Endocrinologist, Orlando, 407-894-3241. " He believes that

optimum TSH level is between 1-2, which has made all the difference for me. "

Orlando, Florida

Dr. Constant, Endocrinologist, Diabetes & Endocrine Center of

Orlando, 1200 E. Hillcrest St., Orlando, FL (407) 894-3241 " He listened to

my symptoms and helped me find a solution when Synthroid wasn't working for

me, " a reader pointed out.

Orlando

E. Crockett, M.D., Endocrinology & Diabetes, Florida Hospital

Diabetes Center, 2520 N. Orange Ave., Ste 102, Orlando, FL 32804,

407-303-2801 / 407- 897-8071. (Editor's Note, June 2002 -- Patients have

reported that Dr. Crockett is so booked that they are not accepting new

patients. You should call to check their status.) " Dr. Crockett is top-rated

in his field and was the only doctor I have ever met after 17 years of

thyroid problems who doesn't just look at the numbers. He listens to the

patient! He realized that when I said I had no energy that the Synthroid

needed some help and put me on Cytomel. It made such a difference! I started

to lose some weight and I was my old self again. What a sweetheart! "

Another report:

" Sam Crockett is probably the most caring and knowledgeable doctors I have

ever seen. He thoroughly understands thyroid diseases but more than that he

is open to suggestions and actually listens to his patients when they say

something! I knew he was the doctor for me when he told me that thyroid

contrary to most doctors' opinions was NOT an easy thing to treat properly

and that sometimes just trying different combinations of therapies was the

best way to arrive at the right one. This man is wonderful! "

Another reader writes:

" Dr. Crockett was referred to me by my insurance company after I had

received improper medical advice and had been overmedicated by another local

endocrinologist. On my initial visit, Dr. Crockett took one look at me and

knew what had happened without referring to my chart or bloodwork. My

condition wa so bad that I had to literally be " detoxed " (without thyroid

replacement) for two months.Dr. Crockett has a wonderful doctor/patient

repoire and a great sense of humor. He is highly regarded in the Central

Florida area. I cannot say enough good things about him. He has been my

endocrinologist for 7 years. I honestly believe that his intervention and

treatment saved my life 7 years ago. "

Orlando, Florida

Dr. Bourne, Endocrinologist, Florida Hospital Diabetes Center, 2520

North Orange Avenue, Suite 102, Orlando, Florida 32804 (407) 303-2801. 1603

S Hiawassee Rd, Suite 105, Orlando, fl 32835, 407-293-2150.

http://www.orlandodiabetes.com. According to a reader, " Dr. Bourne is very

good to listen to the symptoms and talk to you about why they are happening

and what needs to be done to fix them. She does believe in the 1-2 range for

the TSH levels. "

Another reader likes Dr. Bourne:

" She is an awesome Dr., great listener and very sharp, she will not rush you

out of her office. This lady really knows Thyroid, Diabetes, Hashimoto's,

etc. She recently held a Type 2 Diabetes Summit at a local high school.

There must have been 300 people in attendance. Her staff is very helpful. "

Another reader writes:

" It's refreshing to walk and start talking to a doctor who actually knows

what they are talking about. She answered all of my questions, I never felt

rushed. She was definately worth the drive from Daytona. My friend was right

about Dr Bourne, she is a Top Doc. "

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Just logon to the website where you can not only read old messages but

also check out the FILES and LINKS.

mjh

In a message dated 7/5/02 9:00:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

darceshipman@... writes:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I just joined the group and accidentally deleted a message that I'd

> intended to save.

>

> It was a description of a protocol that included lots of information on

> diet, raw foods, best juicers, etc.

>

> If anyone remembers sending this could you resend it please.

>

> Also, if you know of any good sites on cancer diets or raw food recipes

> please let me know. I just read that you're not supposed to eat potatoes.

> Why not?

>

> Thanks, Darcy

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This information is at the end of each meesage to this list:

List Archives:

/messages/

mjh

In a message dated 7/5/02 9:00:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

darceshipman@... writes:

> Hi everyone,

>

> I just joined the group and accidentally deleted a message that I'd

> intended to save.

>

> It was a description of a protocol that included lots of information on

> diet, raw foods, best juicers, etc.

>

> If anyone remembers sending this could you resend it please.

>

> Also, if you know of any good sites on cancer diets or raw food recipes

> please let me know. I just read that you're not supposed to eat potatoes.

> Why not?

>

> Thanks, Darcy

>

>

>

>

>

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