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In a message dated 1/30/05 7:29:33 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> School Systems. It is much cheaper for schools to

> have parents medicate their children than provide appropriate education for

> them. That way schools don't have to provide smaller classes with fewer

> changes during the day.

The only entities that benefit from the dx'ing and doping of kids for ADD are

the pharmaceutical companies and the school system. The schools receive $500

a kid for each one dx'd with some kind of ADD/ADHA.

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In a message dated 1/30/05 7:29:33 AM Mountain Standard Time,

SSRI medications writes:

> School Systems. It is much cheaper for schools to

> have parents medicate their children than provide appropriate education for

> them. That way schools don't have to provide smaller classes with fewer

> changes during the day.

The only entities that benefit from the dx'ing and doping of kids for ADD are

the pharmaceutical companies and the school system. The schools receive $500

a kid for each one dx'd with some kind of ADD/ADHA.

" Blind Reason "

a novel of pharmaceutical intrigue

Think your antidepressant is safe? Think again. It's

Unsafe At Any Dose

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Sorry, I don't understand that. Effectively it saves a district money

if they don't provide services(and saves much more than $500.) and the child

is medicated, ie just is quiet in class wether they are learning or not, but I

don't understand how you say they get an actual payment for medicating a

child.

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Sorry, I don't understand that. Effectively it saves a district money

if they don't provide services(and saves much more than $500.) and the child

is medicated, ie just is quiet in class wether they are learning or not, but I

don't understand how you say they get an actual payment for medicating a

child.

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Under what auspices does the federal government fund children on

Ritalin??? And it is illegal for a teacher to distribute any medication.

Ritalin

must be administered by a registered nurse.

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Under what auspices does the federal government fund children on

Ritalin??? And it is illegal for a teacher to distribute any medication.

Ritalin

must be administered by a registered nurse.

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Right, funding is provided for kids served. ie in resource programs,

self-contained classes. Kids aren't funded just because they are on medication.

It

would actually get them less funding if they are medicated and not served.

It has been illegal, and still is illegal for a teacher to dispense any

prescription medication.

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Special Ed does not mean just below level, but all exceptionalities.

Actually in some states the gifted category is included with exceptional

children. Neurologic impairments and other specific learning disabilities are

very

much part of exceptional children.

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Special Ed does not mean just below level, but all exceptionalities.

Actually in some states the gifted category is included with exceptional

children. Neurologic impairments and other specific learning disabilities are

very

much part of exceptional children.

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Identified kids in regular classes, with no resource or other services

(such as PT, or OT) are not funded under IDEA, and probably no longer are

identified under IDEA. Instead they may have accommodation under section 504 of

the Rehabilitation act. This carries no funding, but assures their right to

having their disability accommodated, and their right to participate in all

activities for which they would be otherwise qualified.

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Technically a school without a nurse, cannot dispense scheduled

drugs. There are no exceptions. They are then required to have a traveling

nurse

come to the school during the day just to administer. Some kids do take time

released versions that make it a much easier thing to deal with at school.

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What I do know that has happened is that school counselors will have a

doc that they will call and recommend the child be medicated. Then persuade

the parent to see the doc. This is not appropriate. If the doc mails the

prescription it is not legal. They must be filled the day they are written.

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Schools want kids medicated as opposed to identified and served

because even though there is a small stipend for serving them, it nowhere takes

care

of the cost of actually serving them. It is also more difficult to identify

a kid who is only showing hyper and disruptive behavior, not with specific

learning disabilities.

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You can request all you want, but the reality is that it is can be

difficult to meet eligibility criteria for identification. There is a yo yo

effect of identification, being served, they do better, then no longer meet

criteria. Then at the 3 year reeval. they are out. So it is good to have 504

protection, especially in high school and beyond.

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The school district in Rancho Cordova, CA, gets $873 in federal funds for every

child on ritalin. The kids line up at school and get dosed. Teachers hand it

out.

Starris

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Sorry, I don't understand that. Effectively it saves a district money

if they don't provide services(and saves much more than $500.) and the child

is medicated, ie just is quiet in class wether they are learning or not, but I

don't understand how you say they get an actual payment for medicating a

child.

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The school district in Rancho Cordova, CA, gets $873 in federal funds for every

child on ritalin. The kids line up at school and get dosed. Teachers hand it

out.

Starris

----- Original Message -----

From: Forvr22@...

Sorry, I don't understand that. Effectively it saves a district money

if they don't provide services(and saves much more than $500.) and the child

is medicated, ie just is quiet in class wether they are learning or not, but I

don't understand how you say they get an actual payment for medicating a

child.

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Children with ADHD along with many other disabilities, are covered

under IDEA. Most people call them " special ed " . There is additional

funding provided for special ed students regardless of the

diagnosis....or the medication they are taking.

Many of these children receive services that cost the districts far

more than they are reimbursed.

Further, President Bush just signed an ammendment to IDEA which

prohibits schools from requiring children to take stimulants as a

condition of their being allowed to attend school.

> The school district in Rancho Cordova, CA, gets $873 in federal

funds for every child on ritalin. The kids line up at school and get

dosed. Teachers hand it out.

>

> Starris

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Forvr22@a...

> Sorry, I don't understand that. Effectively it saves a

district money

> if they don't provide services(and saves much more than $500.) and

the child

> is medicated, ie just is quiet in class wether they are learning

or not, but I

> don't understand how you say they get an actual payment for

medicating a

> child.

>

>

>

>

>

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Children with ADHD along with many other disabilities, are covered

under IDEA. Most people call them " special ed " . There is additional

funding provided for special ed students regardless of the

diagnosis....or the medication they are taking.

Many of these children receive services that cost the districts far

more than they are reimbursed.

Further, President Bush just signed an ammendment to IDEA which

prohibits schools from requiring children to take stimulants as a

condition of their being allowed to attend school.

> The school district in Rancho Cordova, CA, gets $873 in federal

funds for every child on ritalin. The kids line up at school and get

dosed. Teachers hand it out.

>

> Starris

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Forvr22@a...

> Sorry, I don't understand that. Effectively it saves a

district money

> if they don't provide services(and saves much more than $500.) and

the child

> is medicated, ie just is quiet in class wether they are learning

or not, but I

> don't understand how you say they get an actual payment for

medicating a

> child.

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Sara,

Here you go, Federal money is pulled down for special needs kids

and since many kids will act up when they are not learning a simple

label of ADHD, easy to get, sucks down the federal funds.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/medicating/schools/feds.html

> The schools receive $500

> a kid for each one dx'd with some kind of ADD/ADHA.

What?? That's ridulous. Link, please.

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Hi Sara,

Here you go, Federal money is pulled down for special needs kids

and since many kids will act up when they are not learning a simple

label of ADHD, easy to get, sucks down the federal funds.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/medicating/schools/feds.html

> The schools receive $500

> a kid for each one dx'd with some kind of ADD/ADHA.

What?? That's ridulous. Link, please.

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The school nurse doles it out but in many states a teacher used to be able

to label a child and then if the parents didn't comply, call the state to

take

the child along with siblings.

A law just passed preventing that for stimulant drugs but the new

Strattera is a failed SSRI gone ADHD med, it actually is not covered

by the law.

Jim

Under what auspices does the federal government fund children on

Ritalin??? And it is illegal for a teacher to distribute any medication.

Ritalin

must be administered by a registered nurse.

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The school nurse doles it out but in many states a teacher used to be able

to label a child and then if the parents didn't comply, call the state to

take

the child along with siblings.

A law just passed preventing that for stimulant drugs but the new

Strattera is a failed SSRI gone ADHD med, it actually is not covered

by the law.

Jim

Under what auspices does the federal government fund children on

Ritalin??? And it is illegal for a teacher to distribute any medication.

Ritalin

must be administered by a registered nurse.

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