Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

[Guest guest]

Loved the sunday effect

Em

RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

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> when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

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> psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes

> they're also a

> liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as

> really needed.

>

> best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many

> aren't able to

> keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

>

> there's many sites that give the list of complications of

> progressive hep-C

[Guest guest]

Loved the sunday effect

Em

RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

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> when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

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> psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes

> they're also a

> liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as

> really needed.

>

> best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many

> aren't able to

> keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

>

> there's many sites that give the list of complications of

> progressive hep-C

[Guest guest]

My aliens are really pissed off at the quacksters and the pharmacy big wig

companies. But I guess that is displaced anger lol Usually so they say when your

pissed off at someone else you got 3 fingers pointing right back at ya. I sure

helped create my illness looking for quick fixes in surgeries, cocaine to get

thin (actually that is what I thought it would do) Never did I think I would get

this dragon. I am sure I am not the only stupid one in that thinking I seen

rooms full of hep c people in NA meetings. I tell every student and teen I know

stay clear feel free to send this to your teens or better yet let them watch

someone on interferon tx. Anyway I am glad I am not on dope. Glad I had a hard

day at work bathed 2 little busy body boys after work. Cooked supper for today

and put a pot roast in the crock pot for tomorrow lol. (Dont worry I am not

eating the red meat lol) But I dont want to hear people tell me tomorrow what is

for supper!!. Gosh to me to get all this accomplished feels pretty good. Even

got the dishes washed and put away. When I was on interferon I just wanted to

hang my head and stay under the cover. We have had a ton of rain here so the

flowers are blooming. That is what I am trying to focus on today not the dragon.

I do hope all are well and feeling ok today. God bless.

RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

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> when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

>

> psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes

> they're also a

> liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as

> really needed.

>

> best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many

> aren't able to

> keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

>

> there's many sites that give the list of complications of

> progressive hep-C

[Guest guest]

hi em, did you clear hepc,just wondering...sounds like you had a great day

>

>

> From: bob Larson <bobList@cablespeed . com>

> Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

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> when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

>

> psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes

> they're also a

> liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as

> really needed.

>

> best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many

> aren't able to

> keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

>

> there's many sites that give the list of complications of

> progressive hep-C

[Guest guest]

Hi,

my name is Nilda, Last week I found out that I have hep c, according to blood

results my liver is perfectly fine and healthy, will I be able to get cured,

________________________________

From: DIANNA C. MOORE <dcmoor513@...>

Hepatitis C@...

Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 7:27:06 PM

Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

Hi Deborah,

 

My name is Dianna, I was once a member of this support group during the time

that my oldest sister had this disease. I just wanted to let you know that if I

can be of any comfort to you or answer any question, please feel free to email

me back. I know that what you are going through. I went through it with my

sister from the first day she was told by her doctor that she had this illness.

 

Sincerely

Dianna

From: bob Larson <bobListcablespeed (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes they're also a

liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as really needed.

best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many aren't able to

keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

there's many sites that give the list of complications of progressive hep-C..

> RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

>

> hi dorothy,

>  

> what exact health problems do come after having hepc for many

> yrs? ive chosen not to do treatment. found out i have hepc 3

> months ago and ive had it 14 yrs...just interested in knowing

> what i may be dealing with later in life. im 53 and i figure

> if i live to be 60 im fine with that. so far i have no health

> issues,just depression but ive had that most my adult life,i

> dont take antidepressants, ive actually learned how to " trick "

> my depression when it hits

     

[Guest guest]

Nilda, Look back at some of the responses on this thread. You'll find my

response to that starts out " , , " . A lot of people wat to

use the word " Cure " , but many of us would rather use " Sustained Viral Responder "

SVR. A cure would lead someone to believe that now that they have put the virus

into remission they will never get it again. There is always a chance the virus

could become active again, low, less than 0.3%. And if a person allows

themselves to be exposed to the hep C risk factors again they could become

infected again. Glenn

>

> From: bob Larson <bobListcablespeed (DOT) com>

> Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

>

> when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

>

> psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes they're also a

> liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as really needed.

>

> best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many aren't able to

> keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

>

> there's many sites that give the list of complications of progressive hep-C..

>

> > RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> >

> > hi dorothy,

> >  

> > what exact health problems do come after having hepc for many

> > yrs? ive chosen not to do treatment. found out i have hepc 3

> > months ago and ive had it 14 yrs...just interested in knowing

> > what i may be dealing with later in life. im 53 and i figure

> > if i live to be 60 im fine with that. so far i have no health

> > issues,just depression but ive had that most my adult life,i

> > dont take antidepressants, ive actually learned how to " trick "

> > my depression when it hits

>

>      

>

>

[Guest guest]

thank you for your response, I am trying very hard to deal with my depression

which it is very bad.  I didn't expect this to happen to me at this point of my

life. I am destroyed with no hope.

________________________________

From: hdhepper1 <grisley6315@...>

Hepatitis C

Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 3:39:43 PM

Subject: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

Nilda, Look back at some of the responses on this thread. You'll find my

response to that starts out " , , " . A lot of people wat to

use the word " Cure " , but many of us would rather use " Sustained Viral Responder "

SVR. A cure would lead someone to believe that now that they have put the virus

into remission they will never get it again. There is always a chance the virus

could become active again, low, less than 0.3%. And if a person allows

themselves to be exposed to the hep C risk factors again they could become

infected again. Glenn

>

> From: bob Larson <bobList@cablespeed . com>

> Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

>

> when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

>

> psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes they're also a

> liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as really needed.

>

> best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many aren't able to

> keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

>

> there's many sites that give the list of complications of progressive hep-C..

>

> > RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> >

> > hi dorothy,

> >  

> > what exact health problems do come after having hepc for many

> > yrs? ive chosen not to do treatment. found out i have hepc 3

> > months ago and ive had it 14 yrs...just interested in knowing

> > what i may be dealing with later in life. im 53 and i figure

> > if i live to be 60 im fine with that. so far i have no health

> > issues,just depression but ive had that most my adult life,i

> > dont take antidepressants, ive actually learned how to " trick "

> > my depression when it hits

>

>      

>

>

[Guest guest]

YOU ARE NOT DESTROYED WITH NO HOPE!

~*~LIN~*~

> Hepatitis C

> From: nindy327@...

> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:06:10 -0700

> Subject: Re: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

>

> thank you for your response, I am trying very hard to deal with my depression

which it is very bad. I didn't expect this to happen to me at this point of my

life. I am destroyed with no hope.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: hdhepper1 <grisley6315@...>

> Hepatitis C

> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 3:39:43 PM

> Subject: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

>

>

>

>

>

> Nilda, Look back at some of the responses on this thread. You'll find my

response to that starts out " , , " . A lot of people wat to

use the word " Cure " , but many of us would rather use " Sustained Viral Responder "

SVR. A cure would lead someone to believe that now that they have put the virus

into remission they will never get it again. There is always a chance the virus

could become active again, low, less than 0.3%. And if a person allows

themselves to be exposed to the hep C risk factors again they could become

infected again. Glenn

>

>

> >

> > From: bob Larson <bobList@cablespeed . com>

> > Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> > Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

> >

> > when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

> >

> > psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> > there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes they're also a

> > liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as really needed.

> >

> > best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> > elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many aren't able to

> > keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

> >

> > there's many sites that give the list of complications of progressive

hep-C..

> >

> > > RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> > >

> > > hi dorothy,

> > >

> > > what exact health problems do come after having hepc for many

> > > yrs? ive chosen not to do treatment. found out i have hepc 3

> > > months ago and ive had it 14 yrs...just interested in knowing

> > > what i may be dealing with later in life. im 53 and i figure

> > > if i live to be 60 im fine with that. so far i have no health

> > > issues,just depression but ive had that most my adult life,i

> > > dont take antidepressants, ive actually learned how to " trick "

> > > my depression when it hits

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Please Nilda,

I remember feeling this same way after first diagnosis. I made myself get out

and take a walk. If you can just get up and walk to the front door or out to

your backyard try it.

As long as there is breathe there is hope

You have friends here that really do care what happens to you.

(((((((HUGS))))))))

RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> >

> > hi dorothy,

> >

> > what exact health problems do come after having hepc for many

> > yrs? ive chosen not to do treatment. found out i have hepc 3

> > months ago and ive had it 14 yrs...just interested in knowing

> > what i may be dealing with later in life. im 53 and i figure

> > if i live to be 60 im fine with that. so far i have no health

> > issues,just depression but ive had that most my adult life,i

> > dont take antidepressants, ive actually learned how to " trick "

> > my depression when it hits

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Deborah,

I did not clear it. I took interferon/rebetrol for 8 months. I have genotype

1a/b. the hardest to attack. I am feeling ok. but as they say most people feel

ok and then are treated. I am still seeing a doctor and I go back in November

and will have another alpha protien test which checks for liver cancer. My RNA

only dropped 2 million after treatment, so I was unresponsive to treatment. and

the doctor me yet I got all the nasty side effects. white count dropped, severe

anger/depression. I was so foggy and could have been a conbination of things I

began treatment right after my son was 3 months old, so post partum blues and

all the other crap I was a HOT MESS!!!

My liver ultrasound was much better this time after the interferon tx no

scarring and was normal and not enlarged and I saw it with my own eyes.

I will not go down without a fight !!!

RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

>

> psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes

> they're also a

> liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as

> really needed.

>

> best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many

> aren't able to

> keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

>

> there's many sites that give the list of complications of

> progressive hep-C

[Guest guest]

heres another idea to ad to our diets. i use to hate beets as a kid and never

retried them as an adult till now. i eat a can myself 3 times aweek,i luv them

>

>

> From: bob Larson <bobList@cablespeed . com>

> Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

>

> psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes

> they're also a

> liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as

> really needed.

>

> best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many

> aren't able to

> keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

>

> there's many sites that give the list of complications of

> progressive hep-C

[Guest guest]

oops,lol...forgot to add this

 

According to Heinerman, in the Encyclopedia of Healing Juices, beets (and

beet juices) are a blood-building herb that detoxifies blood and renews it with

minerals and natural sugars.

>

>

> From: bob Larson <bobList@cablespeed . com>

> Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

>

> psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes

> they're also a

> liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as

> really needed.

>

> best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many

> aren't able to

> keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

>

> there's many sites that give the list of complications of

> progressive hep-C

[Guest guest]

best effect if juiced raw... together with carrots and some greens... and

whatever else like celery, scallions, a scoop of herb blend if you use any,

some ginger... some garlic if you want a kick to it.

nice steamed lightly until chewable.

wasn't too long ago the only recognized by official hospital nutritionists

ingredient in beets was sugar. well, that was from a college class i

dropped pretty quickly taught by some woman " expert " in the field... '71.

to me that wasn't very long ago to be so ignorant and wrongly authoritative

with their claims. those people are dangerous.

> RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE

> TO TALK TO

> > Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

> >

> > psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> > there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes

> > they're also a

> > liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as

> > really needed.

> >

> > best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> > elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many

> > aren't able to

> > keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

> >

> > there's many sites that give the list of complications of

> > progressive hep-C

>

>

[Guest guest]

hey bob...

 

hows it going   hey,as you know i have not done a bipsyor treatment. i dont

know what my genotype is because the liver doc said he'd fine out at time of

biopsy anyhow,i called his nurce yesterday and ask her about a fibrosure blood

test and an altrasound instead and she pretty much told me that he wont do

thouse,prefers to do a biopsy...arent i paying them for their services? why are

they making up the rules?

> >

> >

> > From: bob Larson <bobList@cablespeed . com>

> > Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE

> TO TALK TO

> > Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

> >

> > psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> > there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes

> > they're also a

> > liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as

> > really needed.

> >

> > best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> > elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many

> > aren't able to

> > keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

> >

> > there's many sites that give the list of complications of

> > progressive hep-C

>

>

[Guest guest]

sorry for the bad spelling,typing to fast and sending out before reading,lol

> >

> >

> > From: bob Larson <bobList@cablespeed . com>

> > Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE

> TO TALK TO

> > Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

> >

> > psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> > there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes

> > they're also a

> > liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as

> > really needed.

> >

> > best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> > elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many

> > aren't able to

> > keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

> >

> > there's many sites that give the list of complications of

> > progressive hep-C

>

>

[Guest guest]

are you saying that after you were treated you feel worst than before treatment?

ive heard others say that...

>

>

> From: bob Larson <bobList@cablespeed . com>

> Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

>

> psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes

> they're also a

> liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as

> really needed.

>

> best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many

> aren't able to

> keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

>

> there's many sites that give the list of complications of

> progressive hep-C

[Guest guest]

it's going... sort of anyway.

just received 5000 vegetarian 00 capsules to fill... that should hold me the

rest of the year.

got the dessicated argentine thymus and liver powders... the instructions

for use recommend mixing into juices which might not be real tasty. looking

forward to seeing how they do.

have 2lbs of milk thistle seed, 1 lb goji, 1 lb bee pollen enroute.

going to try ozonating my CSilver and see how that does. reputed to kick it

into high gear.

& got the bathroom and kitchen cleaned :-)

they make more money on the biopsy, AFAIK.

they see it as the " gold standard " for diagnosis.

there's no good reason for them to not have genotype from bloodwork that i

know of. did they do a PCR (determine viral load) from blood already? if

so, genotype should be on the report.

the docs don't like to think of themselves as help hired by the patient.

like everywhere in life, people often make up the rules to suit themselves

as best they can get away with it.

is insurance paying for the doc and whatever else he submits... labs,

biopsy, etc?

if you're paying out of pocket, just tell him you want the

fibrosure/ultrasound, listen to whatever argument carefully, and then check

around to see if you can find a doc more into a cooperative relationship. a

lab that does fibrosure might tell you the names of some docs that have used

it.

> RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> Hepatitis C

> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 3:59 PM

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I know my genotype and haven't had biopsy. They can do lots of all the other

tests from my regular doc too. Just went to specialist day before yesterday for

first time and he told me that hep c patients didn't have to worry about getting

cirrhosis of the liver from drinking, if they were gonna get it it would be from

the hep. He told me to quit smoking though!..lol He's some kinda hepatologist

specialist wants to do biopsy but I'm not doing it. Don't think I'll go back to

him again after I go get my blood work back!!!

~*~LIN~*~

> Hepatitis C

> From: bobList@...

> Date: Wed, 3 Jun 2009 18:38:59 -0400

> Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

>

> it's going... sort of anyway.

> just received 5000 vegetarian 00 capsules to fill... that should hold me the

> rest of the year.

> got the dessicated argentine thymus and liver powders... the instructions

> for use recommend mixing into juices which might not be real tasty. looking

> forward to seeing how they do.

> have 2lbs of milk thistle seed, 1 lb goji, 1 lb bee pollen enroute.

> going to try ozonating my CSilver and see how that does. reputed to kick it

> into high gear.

> & got the bathroom and kitchen cleaned :-)

>

> they make more money on the biopsy, AFAIK.

> they see it as the " gold standard " for diagnosis.

> there's no good reason for them to not have genotype from bloodwork that i

> know of. did they do a PCR (determine viral load) from blood already? if

> so, genotype should be on the report.

>

> the docs don't like to think of themselves as help hired by the patient.

> like everywhere in life, people often make up the rules to suit themselves

> as best they can get away with it.

>

> is insurance paying for the doc and whatever else he submits... labs,

> biopsy, etc?

> if you're paying out of pocket, just tell him you want the

> fibrosure/ultrasound, listen to whatever argument carefully, and then check

> around to see if you can find a doc more into a cooperative relationship. a

> lab that does fibrosure might tell you the names of some docs that have used

> it.

>

> > RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> > Hepatitis C

> > Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 3:59 PM

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

The Amazing Health Benefits

of Drinking Lemon Water

by Ann Heustad, R.N.

After visiting some friends recently who drank copious amounts of water spiked

with fresh organic limes and lemons from trees in their yard and freely offered

this delicious concoction to all their guests, the following article reminded me

of the value of our mutual dedication to planetary health and wellness through

simple healthful remedies.

There are basic lifestyle habits that are important to incorporate into your

daily life, and this is certainly one of them. However, we are talking about

organic lemons that are tree ripened. If you are buying commercial lemons from

the store, learn kinesiology and muscle test the lemons you buy so that you know

one way or another whether the lemons you are purchasing are actually

therapeutic for you.

“When life gives you a lemon... squeeze it, mix it with six ounces of

distilled water and drink twice daily.â€

The value of eating lemons is reported by Jethro Kloss in his book Back to Eden:

“The medicinal value of the lemon is as follows: It is an antiseptic, or is an

agent that prevents sepsis [the presence of pathogenic bacteria] or putrefaction

[decomposition of tissue]. It is also anti-scorbutic, a term meaning a remedy

which will prevent disease and assist in cleansing the system of impurities.â€

Due to the digestive qualities of lemon juice, symptoms of indigestion such as

heartburn, bloating and belching are relieved. By drinking lemon juice

regularly, the bowels are aided in eliminating waste more efficiently thus

controlling constipation and diarrhea.

On page 659 of Back to Eden, Mr. Kloss points out that, “The lemon is a

wonderful stimulant to the liver and is a dissolvent of uric acid and other

poisons, liquefies the bile, and is very good in cases of malaria. Sufferers of

chronic rheumatism and gout will benefit by taking lemon juice, also those who

have a tendency to bleed, uterine hemorrhages, etc.; rickets and tuberculosis.

In pregnancy, it will help to build bone in the child. We find that the lemon

contains certain elements which will go to build up a healthy system and keep

that system healthy and well. As a food, we find, owing to its potassium

content, it will nourish the brain and nerve cells. Its calcium builds up the

bony structure and makes healthy teeth.

“Its magnesium, in conjunction with calcium, has an important part to play in

the formation of albumen in the blood. The lemon contains potassium 48.3,

calcium 29.9, phosphorus 11.1, magnesium 4.4. Lemons are useful in treating

asthma, biliousness, colds, coughs, sore throat, diphtheria, la grippe [flu or

influenza], heartburn, liver complaint, scurvy, fevers and rheumatism.â€

Since many people today suffer from what they used to call biliousness, it is

important to edify our readers to the definition.

Biliousness -- 1. A symptom of a disorder of the liver causing constipation,

headache, loss of appetite and vomiting of bile. 2. excess of bile; a bilious

fever.

Why the lemon works so well

On page 19 of A.F. Beddoe's book “Biological Ionization in Human Nutrition,â€

he states that: “Man does not live off the food he eats but off of the energy

that is produced from the food he eats.â€

The energy you get from your food comes from the atoms and molecules of energy

in your food. A reaction takes place as cationic food enters the digestive tract

and encounters anionic digestive enzymes.

To explain further, an ion is part of a molecule con-atom or a group of atoms

that carry an electrical charge. Ions which carry positive charges are

“cations.†Lemons are considered to be anionic, having more electrons

(negatively charged ions) of energy as compared to cations (positively charged

ions) in their atomic structure. Saliva, hydrochloric acid, bile and the

stomach's other digestive juices are also anionic.

Lemon is one of the only foods on the planet that has more anions than cations

in its atomic structure.

When considering the electromagnetic properties of food Dr. Beddoe points out

that all foods are considered cationic with the exception of fresh, raw lemon

juice. Some have suggested that the reason fresh lemon juice is similar to

digestive enzymes is due to the low amount of sulfur in lemons. It should be

noted that pasteurized and packaged lemon juice is cationic and, therefore,

ineffective as a health remedy.

Who Can Benefit From Lemon Water

Dr. Beddoe continues on page 194: “Lemon water is used in every person that

can tolerate it. That is, if there is no allergy to lemon (a very few have a

true allergy to lemon) and no active ulcers, then all adults and most children

should use the lemon water. The purpose of the lemon is to:

provide a natural strengthening agent to the liver enzymes when they are too

dilute.

The liver can make more enzymes out of fresh lemon juice than any other food

element.

The lemon helps fix oxygen and calciums in the liver because it regulates blood

carbohydrate levels which affect the blood oxygen levels.â€

In the above book, Dr. Beddoe also cites an article by Dr. Lesser on the

medical promise of citric acid in “Anabolism, Journal of Preventive

Medicine.†He uses this article to validate the value of using fresh lemon

juice daily: “It appears that citric acid, the major carrier of biochemicals

in the body's energy system, shows important promise, primarily because of its

excellent properties as a chelator. Its ability to form soluble complexes with

calcium offers major promise in the successful treatment of pancreatic stones

and has also been employed to dissolve kidney stones. Since calcium deposits are

of major significance in the much greater problem of hardening of the arteries,

citric acid may possibly contribute to a safe and effective reversal of this

widespread degenerative disease.â€

Even though medical doctors are not currently employing lemon juice in the

treatment of the above conditions, this article substantiates the fact that one

of the benefits of fresh lemon water is the way the citric acid is able to act

upon the body's systems differently than any other food

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> >

> > From: bob Larson <bobList@...>

> > Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> > Hepatitis C

> > Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 3:59 PM

> >

> >

> >

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>

[Guest guest]

bob when you say a biopsy is " gold standard " do you mean  its the best way to

really see what the liver is doing OR " ching ching "   or both.

 

yes the doc told me that with a biopsy,he will be able to know so much more...im

sure thats true but i just want to know genotype just incase it may trigger me

to do treatment down the road.

 

im flying to st.augustine florida with my daughter on the 16th of june and im

scare shitless but im going!!!  first time flyer here...

>

>

> From: bob Larson <bobListcablespeed (DOT) com>

> Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> Date: Wednesday, June 3, 2009, 3:59 PM

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> -----Original Message-----

> bob when you say a biopsy is " gold standard " do you mean  its

> the best way to really see what the liver is doing OR " ching

> ching "   or both.

....probably both.

[Guest guest]

found this video,may be a bit educational for those who arent real familar yet

with hepC,i will paste it below...i'm doing the series of hep a and b shots,at

first i was i was regreting that i took the shots but now i think it really is

in our best interest to get the shots.they say it may raise viralloads but then

we've also heard to that a high viralload doesnt always mean that there will be

more damage so...in that im glad i got the shots.you can get hepA from a

strawberry so with hepA ontop of hepC...NOT GOOD!!!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXY44pCDTw4

From: bob Larson <bobList@...>

Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

Hepatitis C

Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 11:33 AM

> -----Original Message-----

> bob when you say a biopsy is " gold standard " do you mean  its

> the best way to really see what the liver is doing OR " ching

> ching "   or both.

....probably both.

[Guest guest]

Deb,

I did the hep b and A again I had the series of B when was first began nursing

school back in 1990. But I had the whole series again along with the A last

year. I have the kids getting there shots too.

RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

Hepatitis C

Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 11:33 AM

> -----Original Message-----

> bob when you say a biopsy is " gold standard " do you mean its

> the best way to really see what the liver is doing OR " ching

> ching " or both.

...probably both.

[Guest guest]

omg...lmao...you and angel are going to be doing a fine job keeping me

laughing,yous are too funny.im still laughing about the machine gun but i dont

think the few men in here thought it would have been a good idea to use itmy

daughter wants me to go tanning with her so i'll be bac with a reply to both of

yous.my daughters 23 shes loved your post! i have a myspace if anyone would like

to join and add me or if youve got myspace already,ADD ME

 

www.myspace.com/sensitive4life

From: bob Larson <bobListcablespeed (DOT) com>

Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 11:33 AM

> -----Original Message-----

> bob when you say a biopsy is " gold standard " do you mean its

> the best way to really see what the liver is doing OR " ching

> ching " or both.

....probably both.

[Guest guest]

hey lin,hows it going.call me when you get time heres an add below,very very

very informatinal on what to eat and not to eat...ABSOLUTLY  NO FRENCH

FRIES,that is if you want a healthy liver

 

http://www.gmhc.org/health/nutrition/liver/food.html

From: lin swindell <linswindell@...>

Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

" heppers " <Hepatitis C >

Date: Tuesday, June 2, 2009, 6:12 PM

YOU ARE NOT DESTROYED WITH NO HOPE!

~*~LIN~*~

> Hepatitis C

> From: nindy327@...

> Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 16:06:10 -0700

> Subject: Re: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

>

> thank you for your response, I am trying very hard to deal with my depression

which it is very bad.  I didn't expect this to happen to me at this point of my

life. I am destroyed with no hope.

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: hdhepper1 <grisley6315@...>

> Hepatitis C

> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 3:39:43 PM

> Subject: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

>

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>

>

>

> Nilda, Look back at some of the responses on this thread. You'll find my

response to that starts out " , , " . A lot of people wat to

use the word " Cure " , but many of us would rather use " Sustained Viral Responder "

SVR. A cure would lead someone to believe that now that they have put the virus

into remission they will never get it again. There is always a chance the virus

could become active again, low, less than 0.3%. And if a person allows

themselves to be exposed to the hep C risk factors again they could become

infected again. Glenn

>

>

> >

> > From: bob Larson <bobList@cablespeed . com>

> > Subject: RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> > Hepatitis Csupportgr oupgroups (DOT) com

> > Date: Sunday, May 31, 2009, 1:15 PM

> >

> > when you get to 59 then the 60 mark might move to 75. or 90.

> >

> > psych meds are all a load on the liver, some moreso than others.

> > there's alternative herbs for mood management, but sometimes they're also a

> > liver load. gotta check'em out, probably best to use only as really needed.

> >

> > best anti-depressant i know of is aerobic conditioning combined with

> > elimination of the additives in processed foods, but many aren't able to

> > keep that up. an aversion to sweat can be lethal.

> >

> > there's many sites that give the list of complications of progressive

hep-C..

> >

> > > RE: Re: I NEED SOMEONE TO TALK TO

> > >

> > > hi dorothy,

> > > 

> > > what exact health problems do come after having hepc for many

> > > yrs? ive chosen not to do treatment. found out i have hepc 3

> > > months ago and ive had it 14 yrs...just interested in knowing

> > > what i may be dealing with later in life. im 53 and i figure

> > > if i live to be 60 im fine with that. so far i have no health

> > > issues,just depression but ive had that most my adult life,i

> > > dont take antidepressants, ive actually learned how to " trick "

> > > my depression when it hits

> >

> >       

> >

> >