Questions

[Guest guest]

Well *I* think that was a $12-worth well worth having! Always love reading

your posts, Suzy!

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" The intuitive mind is a sacred gift and the rational mind is a faithful

servant. We have created a society that honors the servant and has forgotten

the gift. " - Albert Einstein

> Re: questions

>

>

>

> > Hi ,

> > >

> > > What are the risks if my child does not get any

> > > vaccinations? (i have answered this, but do not feel

> > > quite comfortable yet, so i'd love to hear others'

> > > views)

> >

> > The risks are that they will get the infections against which other

> children are vaccinated.

>

> - as will many of those that are also vaccinated but (...but...)

> chances are that yours will recover and grow to be healthy, strong

> and of sound mind, instead of having to contend with a multitude of

> weird and nasty chronic states.

>

> Susceptibility must be a factor, as is the way a child is

> > nursed/looked after (get Suzy on this one), and whether they are

> breastfed, and their nutritional status.

>

> - yes, well, my take on this is that whether your child is vaccinated

> or not, whether your child is ill or not.... your child will benefit

> emotionally and therefore in health from some " wholesome " parenting.

>

> This obviously takes many forms but one of the most important IMVHO

> is what I call nursing... Nursing your child through illness. It is

> the only way for me to dare to stay from Calpol (we have

> convulsions...) It means being vigilant and becoming a " carer " when

> your child is ill. This is very difficult for many to do because it

> means not doing the cp vax, ignoring govt advice and staying home

> from work to nurse your child. Or, with a little creativity and

> effort, it means doing what many women have done in the past and

> building up a support network to benefit the children involved. I

> have five friends who will mother each others children as and when

> the need arises. We have taken days off work for each other, and

> since our kids spend so much time together, they catch bugs from each

> other... Mine are the only non-vaxxed but the others are catching on

> to the idea... :-)

>

> Also, nutrition is essential. Homeopathy and other therapies are

> excellent methods of redressing imbalances but it is good and

> appropriate nutrition that will keep the individual from falling back

> into a state of illness. Allergies and food insensitivity are an

> exploding epidemic as is childhood diabetes, the ADD spectrum and of

> course autism, cancers, etc, etc. So it is important to be aware of

> the principles of good and appropriate nutrition. Some cooking skills

> don't hurt either - it cuts down on that food bill incredibly.

>

> My little theory in practice is that if the child feels secure in the

> care and succour he receives, is fed with simple, natural and clean

> food as building blocks for health, gets clean air and water, is

> protected from as many environmental and other toxins as humanly

> possible in this day and age - then all you have to do is step back

> and let her find her own way. Some will read at 4, others at 9...

> some will walk at 9mos, others at 2yrs.... and they will all

> be " normal " within their own genetic blueprint and " gem " etic

> individuality.

>

> My 12 dollars' worth!!! sorry for the long rant :-)

>

> Suzy

> London

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sue,

Just had to let you know I LOVE Einstein's quote you have here. And it's so

true!

kim

Re: questions

> >

> >

> >

> > > Hi ,

> > > >

> > > > What are the risks if my child does not get any

> > > > vaccinations? (i have answered this, but do not feel

> > > > quite comfortable yet, so i'd love to hear others'

> > > > views)

> > >

> > > The risks are that they will get the infections against which other

> > children are vaccinated.

> >

> > - as will many of those that are also vaccinated but (...but...)

> > chances are that yours will recover and grow to be healthy, strong

> > and of sound mind, instead of having to contend with a multitude of

> > weird and nasty chronic states.

> >

> > Susceptibility must be a factor, as is the way a child is

> > > nursed/looked after (get Suzy on this one), and whether they are

> > breastfed, and their nutritional status.

> >

> > - yes, well, my take on this is that whether your child is vaccinated

> > or not, whether your child is ill or not.... your child will benefit

> > emotionally and therefore in health from some " wholesome " parenting.

> >

> > This obviously takes many forms but one of the most important IMVHO

> > is what I call nursing... Nursing your child through illness. It is

> > the only way for me to dare to stay from Calpol (we have

> > convulsions...) It means being vigilant and becoming a " carer " when

> > your child is ill. This is very difficult for many to do because it

> > means not doing the cp vax, ignoring govt advice and staying home

> > from work to nurse your child. Or, with a little creativity and

> > effort, it means doing what many women have done in the past and

> > building up a support network to benefit the children involved. I

> > have five friends who will mother each others children as and when

> > the need arises. We have taken days off work for each other, and

> > since our kids spend so much time together, they catch bugs from each

> > other... Mine are the only non-vaxxed but the others are catching on

> > to the idea... :-)

> >

> > Also, nutrition is essential. Homeopathy and other therapies are

> > excellent methods of redressing imbalances but it is good and

> > appropriate nutrition that will keep the individual from falling back

> > into a state of illness. Allergies and food insensitivity are an

> > exploding epidemic as is childhood diabetes, the ADD spectrum and of

> > course autism, cancers, etc, etc. So it is important to be aware of

> > the principles of good and appropriate nutrition. Some cooking skills

> > don't hurt either - it cuts down on that food bill incredibly.

> >

> > My little theory in practice is that if the child feels secure in the

> > care and succour he receives, is fed with simple, natural and clean

> > food as building blocks for health, gets clean air and water, is

> > protected from as many environmental and other toxins as humanly

> > possible in this day and age - then all you have to do is step back

> > and let her find her own way. Some will read at 4, others at 9...

> > some will walk at 9mos, others at 2yrs.... and they will all

> > be " normal " within their own genetic blueprint and " gem " etic

> > individuality.

> >

> > My 12 dollars' worth!!! sorry for the long rant :-)

> >

> > Suzy

> > London

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

hi Kim,

Totally, OT, I know (are you on OT4VAX?), but I *love* quotations. Found

this super site a couple of nights ago

http://www.sbrowning.com/quotes/index.php3. There are some little rippers

on there! Go and browse awhile... )

Love, light and peace,

Sue

" Education is an admirable thing. But it is well to remember from time to

time that nothing that is worth knowing can be taught. " - Wilde

> Re: Re: questions

>

>

> Sue,

>

> Just had to let you know I LOVE Einstein's quote you have here.

> And it's so

> true!

>

> kim

>

> Re: questions

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hi ,

> > > > >

> > > > > What are the risks if my child does not get any

> > > > > vaccinations? (i have answered this, but do not feel

> > > > > quite comfortable yet, so i'd love to hear others'

> > > > > views)

> > > >

> > > > The risks are that they will get the infections against which other

> > > children are vaccinated.

> > >

> > > - as will many of those that are also vaccinated but (...but...)

> > > chances are that yours will recover and grow to be healthy, strong

> > > and of sound mind, instead of having to contend with a multitude of

> > > weird and nasty chronic states.

> > >

> > > Susceptibility must be a factor, as is the way a child is

> > > > nursed/looked after (get Suzy on this one), and whether they are

> > > breastfed, and their nutritional status.

> > >

> > > - yes, well, my take on this is that whether your child is vaccinated

> > > or not, whether your child is ill or not.... your child will benefit

> > > emotionally and therefore in health from some " wholesome " parenting.

> > >

> > > This obviously takes many forms but one of the most important IMVHO

> > > is what I call nursing... Nursing your child through illness. It is

> > > the only way for me to dare to stay from Calpol (we have

> > > convulsions...) It means being vigilant and becoming a " carer " when

> > > your child is ill. This is very difficult for many to do because it

> > > means not doing the cp vax, ignoring govt advice and staying home

> > > from work to nurse your child. Or, with a little creativity and

> > > effort, it means doing what many women have done in the past and

> > > building up a support network to benefit the children involved. I

> > > have five friends who will mother each others children as and when

> > > the need arises. We have taken days off work for each other, and

> > > since our kids spend so much time together, they catch bugs from each

> > > other... Mine are the only non-vaxxed but the others are catching on

> > > to the idea... :-)

> > >

> > > Also, nutrition is essential. Homeopathy and other therapies are

> > > excellent methods of redressing imbalances but it is good and

> > > appropriate nutrition that will keep the individual from falling back

> > > into a state of illness. Allergies and food insensitivity are an

> > > exploding epidemic as is childhood diabetes, the ADD spectrum and of

> > > course autism, cancers, etc, etc. So it is important to be aware of

> > > the principles of good and appropriate nutrition. Some cooking skills

> > > don't hurt either - it cuts down on that food bill incredibly.

> > >

> > > My little theory in practice is that if the child feels secure in the

> > > care and succour he receives, is fed with simple, natural and clean

> > > food as building blocks for health, gets clean air and water, is

> > > protected from as many environmental and other toxins as humanly

> > > possible in this day and age - then all you have to do is step back

> > > and let her find her own way. Some will read at 4, others at 9...

> > > some will walk at 9mos, others at 2yrs.... and they will all

> > > be " normal " within their own genetic blueprint and " gem " etic

> > > individuality.

> > >

> > > My 12 dollars' worth!!! sorry for the long rant :-)

> > >

> > > Suzy

> > > London

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

I think some one messed up on mine!! as I have pills left over!! every month I

weigh 200 so I think I should be taking 4 not 3 what is everyone's wt and ill

quota!!??

.

[Guest guest]

<yclaire@...> wrote:

>My doctor's nurse informed me that the success rate for the combination therapy

has been shown to be more effective with caucasions.  If you look at the racial

composition for all genotypes, whites have more like a 60% success rate.  Of

course, for genotypes 2 and 3, the success rate is much higher -- close to 80%

or more.  I was told that genotypes 2 and 3 more frequently occur in caucasions

-- and those are the genotypes more prevalant in Europe. yes i was o am soppose

t be `1400 but my insurance will pay 1200, so we are trying that firrst. kathy

b.

>

>Also, I have been having problems with anemia.  To help with this side effect,

the ribavirin was reduced from 1000 to 800.  The nurse said they determine the

amount of ribavirin based upon a calculation involving your weight and that I

was borderline anyway.  So they bumped it up to 1000 as the initial dose.  In

other words, the reduction to 800 was okay based upon my weight.  Has anyone

else been told about the calculation and weight?

>

>Evie

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

But you can call him on the phone. Remember, he's the employee. You're the

boss.

AND HE IS ON A VACATION!! LOL

Carol

Since I can't be a good example---

I will just be a extreamley bad warning!!!

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 12/31/2002 4:24:09 AM Central Standard Time, lnewburn@... writes:

1. Has anyone skipped the Blast Off week and just went to eating the number

of calories suggested for your weight? I've tried doing Blast Off several

times but gave up after a couple of days because I was so hungry.

- it is perfectly okay to skip blast off. A lot of people find the same thing as you. And if you are like a lot of us, even going to your regular calorie card will be less calories for you then what you were eating before. Blast off is meant to give you a jump start and clear your body..but if it is too much for you, no reason you can't skip it.

2. How much water should I be drinking in a normal day? I'm currently

drinking about a 2L of Coke a day and hardly any water.

My advice would be to skip the soda! Just recently someone posted either here or on another group I belong to...that you are suppose to drink half an ounce of water for every pound you weight...so if you weigh 300 pounds, you would drink 150 ounces of water a day (just an example). I think recommends 8 - 10 oz glasses a day (I may be wrong on this). I drink 96 oz a day myself - sometimes more sometimes less.

3. What are some must haves to stock up on? I'm thinking fresh fruits and

vegetables but beyond that I'm drawing a blank.

Well you are right on the fruits and veggies. I especially keep the veggies in the freezer. Also chicken for me. I live alone and tend to eat the same foods day in and day out...seems to work best for me. So maybe someone else will have some other ideas for you on this one.

One thing I have found is that I need to measure and/or weigh everything I eat! That makes the pounds simply melt away (rather than use my "eyes" to judge the portions)!

Take Care,

[Guest guest]

, I am sure you will get lots of answers but I will put in my 2 cents worth,

1. Has anyone skipped the Blast Off week and just went to eating the number

of calories suggested for your weight? I've tried doing Blast Off several

times but gave up after a couple of days because I was so hungry.

Yes, lots of folks have gone straight to their calorie card. Another option is to do 's new program (30 day challenge) and do the 1200 calories plus a protein. Don't feel bad if blast off is too hard just jump in where you are comfortable.

2. How much water should I be drinking in a normal day? I'm currently

drinking about a 2L of Coke a day and hardly any water.

The most common recommendation is 8 to 10 8oz. glasses a day. I also hear a lot of folks who use the 1oz. for every 2 pounds that you weigh so for you that would be 131 ounces. But, I would suggest going for the smaller goal at first and then building up. Also, can you try switching to a diet soda to help reduce the calories in the Coke. Diet Coke is my favorite but I mostly drink Diet Rite because it has no caffeine, sodium or sugar... I like the taste because it is sweetened with Splenda

3. What are some must haves to stock up on? I'm thinking fresh fruits and

vegetables but beyond that I'm drawing a blank.

OK, I just did my grocery list yesterday so here is what I use.

low fat/fat free mayo, I like fat free Miracle Whip

lite salad dressings (be careful here not all lite are the same in calories) I like Ken's

brand dressings

lite/fat free sour cream, I like Breakstones Fat Free

lite /fat free cream cheese, I like Philadelphia fat free soft in the containers

reduced fat cheddar cheese, I like Kraft because it melts better

mustard, no fat naturally and it zips up a sandwich

spray butter like I Can't Believe Its Not Butter, I spray this on steamed veggies

fat free hot chocolate under 30 calories so I can use it as an extra window

Low cal bread, if it is 40 calories or less a slice then you can have 2 pieces for one

starch window

yogurt, I like Yoplait light...it is only 100 calories and has some great flavors

turkey breast for sandwiches, ask for a low sodium one, I like Boars Head meats

fat free sliced cheese, I like Kraft

lite ranch dressing, I use Light Done Right ranch to dip veggies in

fish & seafood, I eat it 3 times a week

boneless skinless chicken breast

ground turkey, I replace ground beef with the turkey in recipes

I am sure there are a lot of others things that I use but this is all I can think of at the moment. Of course this is my list and you will have to adjust according to your taste. When trying to change to lower calorie items you might need to try going to "lite" for awhile and then trying "fat free". I am now so used to fat free items that I can't even tell the difference.

If you need anything or have any questions don't hesitate to ask!

Rae

260/150/150

"Obstacles are those frightful things you see when you take your eyes off your goal"

[Guest guest]

> 1. Has anyone skipped the Blast Off week and just went to eating the

number

Every time I restart the FoodMover I skip BlastOff. There is no way on earth

I can survive even one day on only 1000 calories AND exerise.

> 2. How much water should I be drinking in a normal day?

A half ounce for every pound of body weight. At 263 pounds you *shoud* be

having 131 ounces minimum of pure water a day. That does not include soda,

Crystal Light, coffee or tea. In summer, or when you're sick or sweating a

lot from exercise, you should add a bit more. If you drink a lot of

caffeinated liquids, like cola, or coffee, or stuff loaded with chemicals

like Crysatal Light, you should drink more, too, to flush those chemicals

out of your kidneys faster.

I'm currently

> drinking about a 2L of Coke a day and hardly any water.

Oh, boy! The first thing you have to do is toss that soda right out the

window and never let it back in your house and start drinking water, water,

and more water. Alright, that may be a bit radical, throweing the soda out.

We *are* allowed no more than I think 8 ounces a day, according to 's

FoodMover instructional booklet. That's the *diet* soda, not regular. The

regular is just empty calories.

And start increasing your water. Make it a goal to get in at least 8 regular

glasses of water a day withing the next few days, and build up to the full

131 ounces. Increasing your water is as important as restricting your food

intake when it comes to weight loss.

>

> 3. What are some must haves to stock up on? I'm thinking fresh fruits

and

> vegetables but beyond that I'm drawing a blank.

What does your family like to eat? You can eat the same foods as everyone

else, just in a smaller quantity, if using the FoodMover. Of course it would

be nice to convert the entire family to healthier versions, like whole grain

breads, whole wheat pasta, brown instead of white rice, and fruit instead of

cookies as snacks. Your kids are still young - start them off right *before*

they get into the sweets habit. You're a busy mom, so you most likely don't

want to be in the kitchen making different meals for each member of the

family, so make your regular dinners, take your measured portions, and serve

hubby all he wants. The kids are usually something else entirely, I figure,

especially the baby - no problem there for feeding time.

And learn to love salads and veggie soups - very filling and very low-cal.

And it's not what you should stock up on, but what to get rid of. Regular

meals should be no problem, but it's all the snacks that have to get tossed

out. Chips, cookies (buy or make healthier varieties make with fruit juice,

not sugar), soda. Find better snacks, like fruit, crunchy veggies with low

cal dip, homemade oven baked potato chips (fat free).

It's still too early for me to think of any more tid-bits right now (only

6:30am) so maybe some others can jump in here with their hints and advice.

Sue in NJ

[Guest guest]

I will reply to 1 & 3.

1 Yep I skipped blast off week. Doctor told me to treat this like a life style change instead of a diet. It took a while to get it in to my head but that attitude has really helped me.

3 Low fat / low salt pretzels. One week a month I really crave crunch and salt. I can have 35 mini pretzel sticks as one serving as still maintain my plan.

Ok, so now I am really getting of the computer to get some work done before company comes.

Jelayne

250/189/150?

-----Original Message-----From: & [mailto:lnewburn@...] Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 3:42 PM100-plus Subject: QuestionsFirst, thank you for mentioning the file section. I found some greatinformation and recipes that sound yummy.1. Has anyone skipped the Blast Off week and just went to eating the numberof calories suggested for your weight? I've tried doing Blast Off severaltimes but gave up after a couple of days because I was so hungry.2. How much water should I be drinking in a normal day? I'm currentlydrinking about a 2L of Coke a day and hardly any water.3. What are some must haves to stock up on? I'm thinking fresh fruits andvegetables but beyond that I'm drawing a blank.'s Wife ('88)Mom to ('90) & Charlie ('02)263/263/175To leave the list, send a blank email to: 100-plus-unsubscribe To contact the owners of this group, send an email to:100-plus-owner

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----- Original Message -----

From: " Sue in NJ " <susang@...>

> A half ounce for every pound of body weight. At 263 pounds you *shoud* be

> having 131 ounces minimum of pure water a day.

I've been wondering where this guideline came from. Any ideas? It seems

excessive to me.

Ann

[Guest guest]

> I've been wondering where this guideline came from. Any ideas? It seems

> excessive to me.

It's right on our Links page (100-plus/links)

It's a link to an article from the National Institute of Health, a

government

agency.(http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002471.htm)

*Other* scientists and agencies have done their own studies, and many agree

with this, some don't.

Remember, this is the *ideal* amount of water. Most people don't even drink

the bare minimum to keep their bodies alive, or fill up on other liquids,

like soda, which forces the kidneys to work overtime filtering out the

impurities so the blood can get a few drops of water out of it. Water is

easiest on the kidneys, which is why it's the preferred beverage.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Glad you found your way here! I just wanted to tell you that two years ago I gave up regular Coke and went to Diet Sprite/7-UP. I was drinking TWO 2 liter bottles every single day! When I made the switch, I immediately lost about 15 lbs. I wasn't trying to lose weight, my teeth were hurting and I needed to quit the sugar. Now, if I even take a sip of regular Coke, I have a hard time swallowing it, it's just too sweet. Now I have a can of Diet Sprite a day instead of those huge bottles.

Where Blast Off is concerned, I've made it through twice, but being that I am starting again this Monday, I am skipping it. It's got too many salads on it and my insides just cannot handle them all. I love salad, but my body doesn't.

Finally, the two things that are always in my cabinet for snacking are low sodium broths and sugar free Jello. You'd be surprised how good the Jello taste when you really get a hankerin for something sweet!

Shaw L.

Goal for now is to get to where the scale can read my weight!

Nevada

JLambsr@...

[Guest guest]

Hi ...

The Scoliosis Association will help you start a support group. You can

get their contact information at:

http://www.scoliosis-assoc.org/

The National Scoliosis Foundation MAY also be interested in helping you

start a group. They can be found at:

http://www.scoliosis.org

Regards,

[Guest guest]

,

What is your location? Also, am I right to say you had spinal fusion

with Harrington Rods a long time ago, and then had revision surgery,

and are still having problems? Sorry if you've explained your

situation in other posts, but I don't have time this a.m. to go back

and read them all.

I know what it's like to not be able to do the things you enjoy

doing. I do mostly just the bare minimum things to take care of my

family. It sucks, but taking some kind of action to improve my

situation, even when it's frustrating, scary and difficult usually

helps me feel better. Next step in my quest is to see a neurologist

for an opinion on whether all my numbness can be attributed to my

flatback syndrome.

Good luck,

loriann

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/5/03 10:07:01 AM Central Standard Time,

lcmelko@... writes:

> What is your location? Also, am I right to say you had spinal fusion

> with Harrington Rods a long time ago, and then had revision surgery,

> and are still having problems?

I live in Nashville, TN. Yes, you are correct. My scoliosis was discovered at

age 6, almost 7 by my mother who was looking for it since she also has it. I

was in a brace by 7. I am 33 had first surgery at 10 (implantation of and

internal muscular stimulator), second was removal of device about 6-7 months

later, rods in at 12, broken rod removal and fusion repair at 19, and the

last one removed all hardware and another atempt to repair the fusion was

done 12/00.

Pain is so much worse after the last surgery. And while I had to give up

major activitivities after the previous ones, like softball. But now, going

to the grocery store is something that has to be planned and it wipes me out

and unless someone is with me to help with the bending and pushing the cart

as it gets full, I cannot do the full store at one time without being in

tears by the time I reach the checkout. I hate asking anyone to help me so

going to the grocery store is usually a two trip ordeal.

In addition to the pain I have been depressed over not being able to do as

much as I once could, normal things, like walk through a mall or going

through an art exhibit without feeling like there is a knife stabbing me up

and down my spine.

[Guest guest]

There are a number of causes for gastroparesis, however, " the exact cause

can not be found in approximately 60% of patients. " I don't think anyone

knows for sure what causes achalasia. Whatever causes achalasia destroys

the nerves that allow the LES to relax. Gastroparesis can also be due to

nerve damage. Achalasia and gastroparesis involve muscles that are

controlled by the vagus nerve. Neither is believed to be contagious,

although, gastroparesis can be what is called post-viral gastroparesis, so

perhaps there are viruses that can cause it that are contagious. Neither is

believed to be genetic, although, gastroparesis can be cause by some things

that can have a genetic predisposition, such as, diabetes and immune

diseases, and there are some case reported in this group that make one

think there could be a genetic factor in some achalasia cases. Scleroderma

can mimic achalasia and can cause gastroparesis.

Gastroparesis, see:

http://www.uoflhealthcare.org/digestivehealth/gastroparesis.htm

http://www./group/gastroparesis .

notan

At 07:14 PM 1/5/2003 +0000, Janakae <toinette04@...> wrote:

>i don't have achalasia, but i have questions about it. my mom has

>this disease, and i have one called gastro paresis. we've been

>wondering if the two diseases are related and if i could have gotten

>mine from her. if anyone knows anything about achalasia and how

>it's related (or even if it is) to other digestive diseases, please

>let me know.

[Guest guest]

The doctors think that my mom's achalasia is genetic. There have

been several cases of it in my family background. Well... to be

accurate, we *THINK* there have been several cases. There are

records, but back then the doctors didn't know what was wrong and

didn't diagnose anything. But the symptoms that the people

complained of are very much like those that my mom suffers from.

I was just wondering if anyone knew of any connection because my

doctor said that there could be one, but because of the unknown

cause of GP in about 60% of all people who suffer from it (thanks

for that... I had forgotten the exact percentage), we're not sure.

It could be something worth doing research on though. Might get

some interesting results.

Jana

> >i don't have achalasia, but i have questions about it. my mom has

> >this disease, and i have one called gastro paresis. we've been

> >wondering if the two diseases are related and if i could have

gotten

> >mine from her. if anyone knows anything about achalasia and how

> >it's related (or even if it is) to other digestive diseases,

please

> >let me know.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sherry.

My name is and I had my surgery on Nov. 6. It is almost 3 months out

for me now. I have lost a total of 64 lbs as of last Wednesday. I only weigh

on Wednesdays.

The first month I lost 33 lbs. The second month I lost about 22. We'll see

what the figure comes to for the third month.

I understand what you mean by some days you eat more than others, and feel a

little guilty.

Well, I'm getting over that real quick. I have a lot of thin friends and

family members who do the same thing. Some days are " hungry " days. So, I

don't have any more guilt. Why should I. If I'm hungry, I make wise choices

first. If I want to snack, I snack on things like nuts, dried veggies or

fruits, or soy products.

I stayed on the liquids for one month. Stage II for two weeks and then

started the solids.

I do not eat bread, meat, dairy, cake, cookies, candy, ice-cream, or

chocolate. I do eat lots of soy products, nuts, veggies and fruits, yogurt

and seafood.

Get over the guilt. You're doing fine and it's ok to eat. Just make sure to

eat the " good " stuff first.

Best wishes.

Nov. 6

376/312

Questions

> Hello everybody, hope all is well. I am going on 4 weeks post op

> this Thursday 1/30, Hard to believe it. My questions are ...

>

> 1. Do you still feel quilty eating. Some days I eat very little,

> others it seems like I eat more (at one sitting) and I feel like I

> shouldn't eat that much or that was too much to eat at one meal. I

> know its alot less then I use to eat, but I am having a hard time

> gauging what is the proper amount. Sometimes my body says " full " ,

> other times it takes longer thats when the guilt hits. I look at the

> amount or the time it takes me to eat, but still can't get beyond the

> guilt and the fact that maybe I will not lose. I know it sounds

> stupid, but I just feel so good health wise, I sometimes get these

> feelings that nothing is different in my body, that maybe nothing has

> changed. Do I need Counseling or will I get over this guilt feeling?

>

> 2. I would like to hear from people three or four months out, how

> much did you lose the first months, second three four etc. What kind

> of pace did it come off at, and when did you start eating normal

> food, protiens, pasta, breads, etc. or are you!

>

> I certainly hope this sounds right, I know what I want to ask, but

> when I put it into words, my intelligence level drops a few points.

>

> Thanks

> Sherry in Florida

>

> 1/2/03

> 244/220

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[Guest guest]

Sherry: In the beginning I felt guilty about eating. I figured I was going

to circumvent the good the surgery was doing. When I mentioned this to Dr.

Rutledge, he said his famous saying... " don't worry, be happy " . The bypass

works (sometimes in spite of us). What old timers are telling you is that

there appears to be a " window " when weight loss is maximized. But some of us

have experienced weight loss even beyond what is considered the two-year

window. But most have only lost past that time by choosing foods carefully.

I continued to lose past the two year mark despite poor choices at least 50%

of the time.

I no longer feel guilty about eating when I'm hungry. I no longer feel

guilty about what I eat. I do worry about my gall bladder with high fat

choices because I often choose high fat foods. I'll be three years post-op

soon and it took me a while to realize that the surgery is the diet (for

me). Some of us lose in spite of what we eat and some of us have to be

careful what we eat in order to lose. You'll eventually figure out which

type you are. I'm not recommending not eating wisely. I'm just being

honest. I did not eat wisely and while I certainly eat more wisely than I

did before surgery, I am definately not a person who makes wise choices all

of the time.

Relax. Try not to feel guilty. It comes from a lifetime of people trying to

make us believe that being overweight is all our fault. We now know that

our bodies failed us and that for some reason, genetic, environmental,

emotional, physical, whatever...we overeat and we become morbidly obese. If

that were not the case, why would be we so heavy when we don't eat any more

than many of our skinny friends. Or why would it take a 6 ft. bypass to get

us to reduce our weight. And why wouldn't we continue to lose weight forever

once we had a bypass. I guess what I'm saying is that the world has put

enough of a guilt trip on us. It's time we worked on not feeling guilty.

Lots of us believe on some level (for a long time) that we're going to be

the one person for whom the surgery does not work. You're not. The surgery

will work for you.

I always encourage new post-ops to make healthy choices when given a chance.

But I'm honest enough to admit that I don't make the wisest choices and have

lost all of my excess weight. So it wasn't because of anything that I did,

or I accomplished, or I didn't do. It was the luck of the draw. My body

responded in the ideal way to this surgery.

My best wishes to you for a wonderful weight loss journey. It's just the

best!

Flo from land Snowbirding in Florida

MGB May 31, 2000

304 - 157 (at goal)

[Guest guest]

Sherry, I can certainly identify with the guilt thing! I feel it quite often.

I have a long history of eating disorders and still battle that mindset. I

feel guilty when I have eaten alot throughout the day and I panic about

gaining or not losing. I probably need to go back in therapy but can't really

afford to at this time. Try to focus on the quality of what you are eating as

opposed to the quantity. Now, I am not a saint. I do eat a couple of sugar

free cookies everyday but I say to myself, " At least they are sugar free and

you are not eating the whole box. " Tell yourself what you are doing right as

opposed to what you are doing wrong.

As far as the weight loss goes, I have lost 89 lbs. in 6 months. I lost 32 my

first month and then have averaged between 9-11 lbs. the following months. I

think it is different for everyone. I do exercise like crazy 5 times a week.

That has truly made a difference! Get moving,

Alisha

7/31/02

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[Guest guest]

Hi Flo!

I just returned from a conference with my husband and saw people I had not

seen in about three years. Needless to say, the few who did recognize me

were floored! The rest had no idea who I was and avoided us, and really gave

me the evil eye until I spoke first and they recognized my voice and the

looks on their faces were 'worth a thousand words'.

It feels really good to look so good, I've lost half of myself, and am in a

6-8 top and 10 bottom. More importantly it is how I feel, and how I feel

about myself. I had a wonderful time on the trip, and can laugh and 'be a

part' again. My feet didn't hurt and I had so much energy I walked-up all

the steps and just felt great. I still make sure that the powder room is in

sight, but it gets better and better all the time! The feeling of being

pitied and ignored when there was truly nothing I could do about it was so

intimidating and I usually hid-----anywhere-----anytime! Not now, no more!

You know the cliche~~~~~Free to be me~~~again!

Hope you are well~~~~God Bless!

Farleigh

[Guest guest]

Hello Sherry in Florida,

I hope you are well. I had surgery in July and have had alot of emotional

issues as well. I feel like an onion with layers peeling away and am

affraid of what's left. I lost about 30 lbs the first month and an average

of about 10-13lbs after that. The first 2 months were kind of hard

adjusting to what my tummy was saying as far as being full. I was pretty

scared of bread so I stayed away from it for about 4 months maybe eating

only a bite. I'm almost 7 months out now and don't eat much breads. I'm

used to it now. I don't have any restrictions on any foods. If someone has

dessert...I steal a bite or two and that's fine with me. There are some

days that I can seem tofit more into my tummy that the day before...I do

feel guilty, but I remind myself that I don't absorb most of it..and I eat

alot less than a normal person. Dana said that Penny could eat a whole can

of Ravioli at one sitting...(Wow)just depends on how much she ate the day

before....wierd. You will have some adjusting to do emotionally.

As far as eating normal foods....I did since 2 months out. Now, I can eat

more that at 2 months, but I still lose about 8-10lbs a month..I'm sure it

will slow down anytime. If you look at the mgb website go to the link in

the left hand side called " weightloss " it will tell you the average loss

from month to month from where you started from.

hope this helps.

from Michigan

278/185

7/10/02

From: " sherry4889 <Avonnow@...> " <Avonnow@...>

Reply-

Subject: Questions

Date: Mon, 27 Jan 2003 22:03:59 -0000

Hello everybody, hope all is well. I am going on 4 weeks post op

this Thursday 1/30, Hard to believe it. My questions are ...

1. Do you still feel quilty eating. Some days I eat very little,

others it seems like I eat more (at one sitting) and I feel like I

shouldn't eat that much or that was too much to eat at one meal. I

know its alot less then I use to eat, but I am having a hard time

gauging what is the proper amount. Sometimes my body says " full " ,

other times it takes longer thats when the guilt hits. I look at the

amount or the time it takes me to eat, but still can't get beyond the

guilt and the fact that maybe I will not lose. I know it sounds

stupid, but I just feel so good health wise, I sometimes get these

feelings that nothing is different in my body, that maybe nothing has

changed. Do I need Counseling or will I get over this guilt feeling?

2. I would like to hear from people three or four months out, how

much did you lose the first months, second three four etc. What kind

of pace did it come off at, and when did you start eating normal

food, protiens, pasta, breads, etc. or are you!

I certainly hope this sounds right, I know what I want to ask, but

when I put it into words, my intelligence level drops a few points.

Thanks

Sherry in Florida

1/2/03

244/220

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In a message dated 2/1/2003 7:14:52 AM Eastern Standard Time,

angelwind@... writes:

<< Max, where did you find the rice paper, I have looked in all the stores

here. Also, is there any other kind of " wrap " thats suitable, won ton etc all

have white flour. >>

I went back to the Asian Store that told me they didn't have any and talked

to a different clerk who could sustain thought and she showed me more rice

paper brands than I'd ever want (as most of you thought in the first place).

They were all in hyrogliphics so I didn't know what I was looking at until

they were pointed out to me. Kind of a frisbee/giant poker chip looking thing

going on. Reasonably priced.

Virtually, all of the spring rolls, won ton wraps, etc have wheat flour and I

don't use them so the rice paper and/or EZ tortilla shells are pretty much

all of your choices from a grain wrap point of view. Of course, if you're a

secretor, you have more choices like spelt flour.

As an O+ nonnie (nice terminology where's my coloring book), I'm really

restricted as to grains/flours I can consume (amaranth, artichoke, kamut,

millet, quinoa, rice, rye, and teff). I haven't figured out how to bake with

them yet. I have baked with some brands of beans with limited success like

chocolate brownies made from lentils, etc. that are delicious. Hope this

helps.

Max

[Guest guest]

Some more info:

A website for purchasing rice paper provided to me, by a gracious fellow list

member, is:

http://www.pacificrim-gourmet.com/wrappers.htm

Some low carb recipe sites are:

http://www.camacdonald.com/lc/LowCarbohydrateCooking-Recipes.htm

http://www.recipezaar.com/

http://www.lowcarbcafe.com/

A good book by Fran McCullough I use for cooking is:

The Low-Carb Cookbook

She compares all of the low carb diets also. Hope this all helps.

Max